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Wyden Rages At DeMint: 'I Never, Ever Would Have Done That To Another Colleague'

First Posted: 05/14/10 05:39 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:30 PM ET

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A bipartisan effort to bring increased transparency to the system that allows individual senators to secretly hold up legislation and nominations collapsed in acrimony on Thursday evening. Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) accused Sen. Jim DeMint of having "kneecapped" the legislation he'd offered with Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa).

Declaring himself "flabbergasted," Wyden railed against DeMint for attaching an unrelated amendment regarding a southern border fence to his transparency measure.

"I can't recall another instance where the cause of open government took a beating -- took a blindsiding -- like the cause open government took this afternoon," said the generally mild-mannered Wyden. "We didn't win this afternoon because we got kneecapped."

But DeMint was merely attaching one unrelated amendment to another unrelated amendment, said DeMint spokesman Wesley Denton.

In the Senate, an amendment does not have to be germane to the underlying bill to be ruled in order -- leading to spectacles such as gun-rights amendments being attached to credit card reform. But Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), who's managing the Democratic side of the debate over the Wall Street reform bill, told his colleagues he wouldn't be accepting any non-germane amendments.

When he made an exception, for Wyden and Grassley, DeMint tried to get on board. "Dodd blocked everyone with non-germane amendments, but then he allowed the Wyden amendment that was non-germane, so it seemed appropriate to allow a Republican amendment, as well, that also enjoyed bipartisan support," said Denton, citing the support of 21 Democrats in a previous vote.

DeMint told Wyden that he'd be happy to decouple his amendment as long as he'd get a separate vote but Dodd refused, said Denton. A Dodd spokeswoman didn't comment by the time this story was posted.

But it wasn't a Democratic amendment, said Beth Pellett Levine, a spokeswoman for Grassley. "This has been a Wyden-Grassley initiative for ten years, so it's been bipartisan for at least ten years," she said.

Under recently implemented rules, a senator must publicly declare a hold within six days of a nominee being brought to the floor. That system isn't working. Bringing a nominee to the floor knowing he or she is already blocked takes valuable floor time -- and the senator can swap a secret hold with another senator. The Wyden-Grassley language would require disclosure within two days of the nomination being made.

Pellett Levine said that Grassley and Wyden are looking for ways forward. "As we saw last night, things are very fluid," she said. "This isn't going to stop them."

Wyden, furious at DeMint, vowed to continue to bring the measure to the floor. "I never, ever would have done that to another colleague," he said. "I intend to come back to my post here again and again and again, until we abolish the secret hold."

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A bipartisan effort to bring increased transparency to the system that allows individual senators to secretly hold up legislation and nominations collapsed in acrimony on Thursday evening. Sen. Ron Wy...
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Welib 05:33 PM on 05/14/2010
What a cr@ps game Republicans are in. They do whatever they want to as long as it makes the adminstration look bad. What they don't realize is that we are ALL watching them scroo Obama and the Adminstration AND the American people!

You see, Republicans will NOT figure out what went wrong until after November when they will no longer have a voice or a presence in Washington.

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Joan Jacobs
10:21 AM on 05/17/2010
In the Senate, an amendment does not have to be germane to the underlying bill to be ruled in order

Could someon please tell me why this is true? It doesn't make any sense, it slows down the passage of bills that have bipartisan support and are intended for the common good of all citizens. This is the third bill I've heard about in the last two weeks that was defeated due to this. I'm sorry, but I don't understand it in the least.
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TheIndependenceParty
Cranky yankee and a rehabilitated ex-Republican
10:17 AM on 05/17/2010
DeMint is not an American, ... he is first and foremost a Republican.
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DevonTexas
Eternal Optimism
09:08 AM on 05/17/2010
Repubes don't want transparency in gov't or elsewhere. Like cockroaches, they don't like it when the lights are turned on.
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Tom Tescher
08:41 AM on 05/17/2010
And they wonder why Congress is held in such low regard. The Senate is broken. No wonder so many are bailing out. People like Dorgan who actually try and work for the people but are thwarted by not only the opposition but his own party. Term limits 2 for the Senate and 4 for the house. And then ban them from lobbying for at least half of the time they serve in office.
10:01 AM on 05/17/2010
I say ban them from lobbying for life and their spouses. While we're at it, why don't we insist that they set their salary's at just above the poverty level so they can see what it is like to work hard for next to nothing.
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03:47 AM on 05/17/2010
What f.ing horesh+t. Who among us would run a business or a family, much less a national government, in the archaic and convoluted manner in which these guys operate in order to cover the tracks of the money they take in from special interests, which is the entire purpose of these obtuse and opaque "rules". Nothing straightforward. Nothing up and up. RUN THESE B*STARDS OUT OF TOWN ON RAILS.
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kinogod
word farmer
03:08 AM on 05/17/2010
That is why when it comes mano e Mano, repub-ates always beat democrats, their shifting morals allow them tp play dirty far more than dems because repubes are cut from that morally dubious American cloth called far right religious conservatism.
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kimbutgar
08:42 PM on 05/16/2010
Jim DeMint has no morals or scruples. He is a man who is a false prophet and the only person Jim DeMint represents is the devil. I have not seen one kind or Christian thing that he has ever done in office. This man is not fit to service in the Senate. I wish the voters of SC would wake up to the fact that he is not representing their best interests.
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frappe
Obstruct the obstructionists - Vote Democratic!
02:50 PM on 05/16/2010
There's just too much NONSENSE going on in Washington...with special rules that essentially allow a dictatorship of ONE. How undemocratic is that?!!!
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frappe
Obstruct the obstructionists - Vote Democratic!
02:55 PM on 05/16/2010
...and, oh yes, don't get me started on why we now need 60 votes to pass legislation. I always used to think that a simple majority was all that was needed. And so now, because Republican politicians refuse to accept viewpoints other than their own, feel they are comfortably within their rights to frustrate the will of the majority at their whim? SINCE WHEN?!
03:26 PM on 05/16/2010
We have ALWAYS needed sixty votes to end a filibuster. The whole purpose of the Senate is to slow down the volatility of the House.
02:36 PM on 05/16/2010
Apprentice idiot.
02:28 PM on 05/16/2010
Senator Wyden has to remember that republican senators do not regard Democratic Senators as being their colleagues. They only regard fellow republican senators as being colleagues. And only if they have the same views as the most conservative members of the GOP. The President and the Democratic leadership has to understand that the gop will say anything and do anything it feels it has to do in order the accomplish two important goals. The defeat of anything put foreword by the Democratic majority and the defeat of this President and his administration. Right after the inauguration of the 44th President of the U.S.A., the republicans proclaimed that their goal was to defeat this President, no matter what he wanted or what we needed.
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02:02 PM on 05/16/2010
the story could have told us what the wyden-grassley amendment is about and what grassley's amendment provides.

senate rules need a wholesale reform to bring them into line with democracy.
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02:05 PM on 05/16/2010
i meant to say "what demint's amendment provides."
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Kamen Gullberg
12:48 PM on 05/16/2010
Talk about a d*uche move to use the rule like that. DeMitt, advancing and keeping the d#uche tradition alive and well. As well as at new high levels thanks to the GOP and Republicans all over the U.S. Their contribution will be immortalized in people like Sarah Palin, DeMitt, etc…
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Billar
Fighting The Lies From The Right
12:20 PM on 05/16/2010
Hey Wyden quit whining and sucker punch DeMint like he did you.
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levibatgirl
trolls lie
11:54 AM on 05/16/2010
I hatehatehate DeMint!
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Soulsurfer
Solar Electrician,Longtime Surfin'Fool
11:38 AM on 05/16/2010
"Secret Holds" on bills and nominations? Wow, our transparent democratic system needs flushing.
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ylobrkrd
outoutdamnspot
05:01 PM on 05/19/2010
Very antiquated but it works the way it designed to work even if we don't like it. It's like a game of chess and some people don't play chess well or at all. It's complicated and cutthroat and that's why I don't like voting newbies into a higher office when they have no experience. Like throwing a hunk of meat into a shark pool.