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Little Girl Who Challenged First Lady Is Right: Obama Is Deporting More Immigrants Than Ever

First Posted: 05/20/10 01:54 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:30 PM ET

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A little girl became the face of the nation's immigration debate on Wednesday, when she told First Lady Michelle Obama about her mother's fear.

"My mom ... she says that Barack Obama is taking everybody away that doesn't have papers," the second-grader said after being called on by the first lady, who was visiting a suburban Maryland school with Mexico's First Lady Margarita Zavala.

And when Michele Obama replied by describing the need to make sure "that people can be here with the right kind of papers," the girl simply responded quietly: "But my mom doesn't have any." (Watch the video below.)

The girl's guilelessness and innocence, in contrast to the inchoate rage of the anti-immigrant movement -- and even to the first lady's suddenly hollow-sounding talking points -- could well turn her into an icon as immigration makes its way to the front of the national agenda.

But surely she was wrong, in suggesting that President Obama is a particular danger to undocumented immigrants? Perhaps she was confusing him with the governor of Arizona or something?

Well, actually, it turns out the little girl was right. Obama's Department of Homeland Security has been deporting more undocumented immigrants than President Bush's ever did.

The number of deportations each year more than tripled during the Bush era -- and has kept going up since then. During fiscal year 2009, the first fiscal year of the Obama era, 387,790 immigrants were deported -- almost 100,000 more during the last full fiscal year of the Bush presidency.

Department of Homeland Security officials stress one big difference between Bush and Obama policies: that the percentage of convicted criminals among the deportees is rising dramatically.

In fiscal year 2008, 31 percent of the 369,221 deportees had criminal records. From October of 2009 to late April of 2010, that figure was up to 48 percent.

Frank Sharry, the executive director of the pro-immigration group America's Voice, credits Obama with "one significant rollback" relative to the Bush years, "which was of high-profile workplace raids."

But, Sharry said, Obama's record is a far cry from what many of his supporters were expecting. "It's remarkable that Barack Obama as a candidate spoke so movingly about how our enforcement priorities were wrong -- and now he's exceeded the Bush administration level," Sharry said.

Sharry's group is out with a visual depiction of the deportation rate:

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The final bar, representing the projections for fiscal year 2010, is the subject of some contention, however. It's based on an internal Immigration and Customs Enforcement memo published by the Washington Post in February. In the memo, James M. Chaparro, the agency's head of detention and removal operations, told field offices to step up their deportations, particularly of "non-criminal aliens" -- and he disclosed that the agency had a goal for FY2010 of deporting 400,000 immigrants, 250,000 of whom, or 62 percent, were expected not to have committed any crimes.

That would be up yet another 3 percent over last year. But ICE has since withdrawn that memo, however, saying portions did not reflect actual policies.

And the actual numbers of deportations for October 2009 through the end of April -- about 186,000 -- suggests that the total for fiscal year 2010, which ends five months from now, could turn out to be lower than last year's.

Watch the video of the exchange:


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A little girl became the face of the nation's immigration debate on Wednesday, when she told First Lady Michelle Obama about her mother's fear. "My mom ... she says that Barack Obama is taking everyb...
A little girl became the face of the nation's immigration debate on Wednesday, when she told First Lady Michelle Obama about her mother's fear. "My mom ... she says that Barack Obama is taking everyb...
 
 
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Matthew Kolken
Immigration Lawyer
10:21 AM on 05/25/2010
Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC), a data gathering, data research and data distribution organization at Syracuse University, has reported that at the end of March 2010 there are 242,776 unresolved immigration court cases, a new all-time high. The immigration court backlog is growing by 6.3 percent since TRAC’s last report at the end of 2009. This number is 30.4% higher than it was 18 months ago prior to Obama's election.

The added pressure on our immigration courts has resulted in the increase of the average length of time an individual must wait to have their matter resolved to up to 443 days.

Yup... the little girl was right.
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AtheistUS
05:08 PM on 05/23/2010
I think it is obvious beyond left and right that there should not be illegal immigration.

(1) We must have much stronger and better guarded Southern border. - most obvious step

(2) We must have strong criminal punishment for illegal employers. - seems obvious too.

(3) Checking documents and deportations. - Arguable for many.
I would favor such measures, though prefer that at the same time there is a reasonable amnesty program in place. The amnesty program should provide a legalization for those illegals who lived here for years (from the time when we lured them in through our intentionally opened border), can provide for their family, know English enough to pass a test etc.

(4) A reasonable amnesty program. Here we have a problem: options what is "reasonable" vary a lot.

So, while there is uncertainty about (3) and especially (4), why not implement most obvious measures: (1) and (2)?
03:57 PM on 05/24/2010
I would heartily endorse you as the new "Czar" of ICE - the problem would be that you are far too fair, reasonable, pragmatic, and oriented towards actually solving a problem as opposed to using it to create political capital ... hence, we could never get you confirmed. But thank you for being a voice of reason. When I reach the point of wishing to simply throw my hands up in the air and find a(nother) nice 3rd world country in which to live ... voices like yours convince me to stay and fight to make this one someplace of which we could all be proud. Thanks.... :-) SWK
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AtheistUS
05:22 PM on 05/24/2010
Thanks for your endorsement! As hypothetical as it is, I would decline - not out of modesty, but simply knowing that there are very reasonable and much more experienced people around. Now, how do we get so many shallow or unreasonable people or plain extremists out there on top positions and in politics - that's a puzzle.

Generally I am quite optimistic about this country (though we all have "throw my hands up" moments), and I am not buying the extreme left "evil empire" or "evil planet" or "evil homo sapience" vision. Hope you stay here, though it's also good sometimes to travel and see the World and live in different places.
charles77
Just the Facts Please
11:34 AM on 05/22/2010
“Illegal immigrants appear to have the lowest education levels and to be the most concentrated in low-wage occupations, such as construction, food preparation, cleaning services, and agriculture.”
“over the 1980 to 2000 period, wages of native workers without a high school degree fell by 9 percent as a result of immigration”
http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/ImmigrationCSR26.pdf

Take meatpacking jobs for instance. These used to be great jobs and provide very well for unskilled/educated workers in this country (of every color). Now wages are down considerably and the % of Hispanic workers in meatpacking rose from less than 10 percent in 1980 to nearly 30 percent in 2000. Ten years later it's nearing 50%. Average wage for a meatpacker in 1976: $17.41 an hour. Average in 2006: $11.47.

http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/250/meat-packing.html

“Construction Worker” used to be a respected job that Americans without college could work hard at and achieve a middle class living. Now illegals have most of these jobs and have depressed the wages in all the rest. If you think illegals just do farm work your dreaming.
We are a nation of immigrants and let in several hundred thousand legally every year. We need to evaluate our needs and adjust immigrate quotas accordingly. After we get our unemployment rate down, currently 10%, we can evaluate our needs and adjust immigrant quotas as needed. Just do it legally.
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Lisette53
I am the 99%
06:51 PM on 05/22/2010
Charles, I followed your link on the meat packing...It is really not a viable argument for this thread since it deals with hispanics and not 'illegals'. It also cites the poor working conditions and safety concerns as a huge part of the issue.
07:03 PM on 05/22/2010
If you watch Food Inc the meat packing industry went to Mexico with busses to bring the illegal workers to the US because they wanted cheap labor. They depend on it.

Why ignore that employers of both large corporations and small businesses depend on illegal workers for low paid jobs? That is part of the equation. It's a part so often ignored by those on the Right.

http://apmp.berkeley.edu/APMP/pubs/i9news/profitshinge122101.html
07:14 PM on 05/22/2010
BTW, I don't have an issue with the deportantion of those who are here illegally, but I think it isn't as black and white as many would believe. Because children born her are citizens regardless of whether or not their parents are in the country illegally, this is an issue. We can't just deport citizens no matter what their parents did.

I am also willing to acknowledge that not all employers knowingly hire undocumented workers, but many do. It would seem to me that those who are paying taxes on the employer and find out the SS# doesn't match have a pretty good case for having hired the undocumented worker in good faith. But, that isn't what is happening in many cases. Those are the employers that need to see some pretty hefty fines and should be prosecuted if they continue to ignore the law.
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denicci1977
35 yrs, female Georgia early voted 4 Obama2012!
10:46 AM on 05/22/2010
Not all illegals are Mexican.
charles77
Just the Facts Please
11:37 AM on 05/22/2010
There not all Hispanic either.

Nationwide 30%-40% are non Hispanic.
01:06 AM on 05/22/2010
If they want to be in this country, they need to go about it by going through the proper channels. What is so wrong about that?

If they aren't here legally, kick them out and let them come back the proper way.
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sviolette
Hug a vet!!!
01:10 AM on 05/22/2010
They are being paid not to use the proper channels. How about stopping the people from paying them to come here illegally?

Arrest the illegal employers!!!
charles77
Just the Facts Please
11:39 AM on 05/22/2010
The Dem controlled government could arrest every one of those employers tomorrow if they wanted to.

The real “dirty secret” is the Left and the Right REFUSE to enforce current law.
The Left says “if we just knew who was employing these workers we would fine them”
The Right says “if we just knew where the illegals were we would deport them”.

The Government knows we have 15 million illegal workers in this country, they KNOW where each and every one is employed, they KNOW who is employing each one and that employers MAILING ADDRESS. They play us for complete fools!

Here is what happens now, an employee submits false id, gets hired, then at the end of the year the Social Security Administration sends out “no match” letters to every employer that submitted false documents where the SS number does not match the name, then does nothing else. Everyone gets run thru a “E-Verify” like system every year. They just don’t share this info with ICE. One government agency not talking to another, I thought we were going to fix that!

You don’t believe that?
Read our own government website:

http://www.ssa.gov/employer/noMatchNotices.htm
12:16 PM on 05/24/2010
I agree with that.

However the illegals aren't the victims in all of this. Nobody forces them to cross the border illegally. Nobody forces them to take those jobs. Deport the illegals and arrest the employers.
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07:31 PM on 05/21/2010
Let's have a reasonalbe path to citizenship but with stiff penalties,
partly to discourage even more illegals from coming.
And to help pay for the billions we spend on schools,
special programs, hospitals, police, prisons, etc.;
sympathetic to this kid, her family, and others
but they came here illegally.

I would also keep US citizenship only for kids born to
Americans, but this requires apparently changing the
14th Adm. and that's tough. US citizenship is special,
it comes with many benefits, it must be honored as
also our border. I'm liberal and I think many of us
agree with conservatives on this.

It's a big country, we can have 100 million+ more here,
but it is not fair or right to Americans to have to absorb
the people of other countries in an illegal manner.

Obama is trying to close the border and we should throw
more money at it. Dem's are going to lose on this if
we don't listen to the majority that wants a
strong border.
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sviolette
Hug a vet!!!
07:52 PM on 05/21/2010
The only thing that is going to discourage illegal immigration is to stop paying them to come here illegally. There is a clear path to immigration:

The number of illegal immigrants attempting to come into the United States has continuously increased. In addition, the number of legal immigrants admitted into the country has reached new highs. It is estimated that legal immigration in the 1990s surpassed the levels of the last previous peak of legal immigration from 1901 to 1910. During that time period nearly 9 million legal immigrants were allowed into the United States. From the period of 1968 to 1993, it is estimated that 16.7 million immigrants entered the country legally. Of these 16.7 million legal immigrants, nearly 85% were from developing countries. This percentage is composed of nearly 50% legal immigrants that came from the Caribbean and Latin America and about a third that came from Asia. Throughout the 1980s and 1990s some illegal immigrants in the U.S. have benefited from immigration policies that have granted amnesty, created a system for refugees, and have raised the quotas for the number of legal immigrants allowed. The number of legal immigrants allowed is anywhere from 700,000 to 900,000 on an annual basis.
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AtheistUS
10:11 PM on 05/21/2010
Border must be well guarded.
Nothing is absolute, nothing is impossible, but illegal crossing of our border must be made very, very difficult.

Legal immigration is totally different matter. It is controlled, there is some selection, and it is at least in principle good for our economy.

Illegal is illegal. There may be many reasons to come here. Even if parents do not have job perspectives, they may hope their kids (born here or not) will start well here. Less crime, better education, more potential for better life etc.

Live door of your own home wide opened when you go traveling if you wish to experiment.
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GayGrandpa
07:27 PM on 05/21/2010
This is my country mine mine...

But the truth is we stole every inch of this country and then claimed it...

Now we want to get all huffy when the shoe is on the other foot? Karma man karma!
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Al K
A pro-immigration law enforcement leftie.
08:41 PM on 05/21/2010
Who is this "we" you speak of? The Spanish, Iroquois, Dutch, English, Mexican, Apache, French,,,, had been "stealing this land" back and forth for centuries. The one thing that unites them all: They are all been dead and gone. No one alive stole this land.
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AtheistUS
10:05 PM on 05/21/2010
Incredibly naive and extremist view.
Most countries have past with territories changing and people moving.
A country has to have a well guarded border.

Keep door of your own house wide open every time you go away for travel and I'll take a second to consider your logic.
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Al K
A pro-immigration law enforcement leftie.
11:05 PM on 05/21/2010
I love that leaving your door open analogy. I am going to use it in future debates. Atheists always make the most logical debaters.
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Lisette53
I am the 99%
07:01 PM on 05/21/2010
Repost: I think a lot of you are afraid of the brown workers, because they are better people with a work ethic this Country hasn't seen in generations. I think as the 'indocumentados' work ethic began to pay off and they began to rise up in positions, pay and class Americans became afraid and felt threatened and now want to push these people back down beneath their feet. They get the jobs because they earned them. Employers want to hire the best person for the job and Americans don't have the work ethic to compete with these people and they are jealous.
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Al K
A pro-immigration law enforcement leftie.
07:06 PM on 05/21/2010
"brown workers, because they are better people with a work ethic this Country hasn't seen in generations."

So was that racist, anti-American remark aimed at White or Black Americans, or just both?
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AtheistUS
10:16 PM on 05/21/2010
I join you in this questioning.
Besides that, 'Lisette53' sure has strange wild fantasies about work ethics.
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Lisette53
I am the 99%
03:25 AM on 05/22/2010
AK, that is a ridiculous comment. We are discussing undocumented workers vs American citizens-which I hope you realize could also be Latino, or Asian etc...the point is that because of the circumstances they are here to escape from they appreciate the opportunity here and have a very good work ethic. Americans are accustomed to a better standard of life and have always lived in a land of opportunity and tend to have more choices as well as a sense of entitlement...and an "I can do or I deserve better" attitude. You should be ashamed at your ugly accusation.
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sviolette
Hug a vet!!!
07:57 PM on 05/21/2010
I don't care what color their skin is. I care that they are being taken advantage of by greedy employers. They could be purple like me for all I care. I also don't care what color the skin of the greedy employers is either. They are illegally hiring people and driving my salary down at the same time.

Arrest illegal employers!!!
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AtheistUS
10:12 PM on 05/21/2010
Agree with this completely. Arrest illegal employers.
Plus: Close the border.
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Lisette53
I am the 99%
03:43 AM on 05/22/2010
Just curious what you do for a living that 'THEY" are driving YOUR salary down.
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kburd67
05:06 PM on 05/21/2010
Punish the business' that employ them!-I can't blame anyone for leaving a crappy country for a better life-especially the poor who can't afford to immigrate here legally-it's not free you know-costs a lot of money that simple folks don't have-walking is free. Who's gonna cook your food at McDonalds or change your hotel sheets when their gone? Most Americans don't wanna work for minimum wage-or less. It's illegal to drive two miles over the speed limit but I Know you guys do that - so get over yourselves.
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Puller58
Man of Mystery
04:51 PM on 05/21/2010
Deporting criminals. Oh dear, how awful. As for the little girl, why not ask her parents why her people break the law?
06:28 PM on 05/21/2010
She might ask why are corporation's and governments allowed to destroy communities and whole industries in other parts of the world for the almighty dollar. We wouldn't want that would we?
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sviolette
Hug a vet!!!
07:59 PM on 05/21/2010
You can't deport the illegal employers. They are American. They aren't here illegally they just pay other people to be here illegally.

Arrest illegal employers!!!
01:24 PM on 05/21/2010
Hey Dan, I welcome people into this country who wait for their turn and follow the rules. In fact I think we should make the process easier and faster and available to more people. I don't think though, that we should allow anyone who wants to to just walk across the border and stay as long as they feel like. Is that "inchoate rage from the anti-immigrant movement"?
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Lisette53
I am the 99%
07:15 PM on 05/22/2010
Itcaffey, you sound reasonable actually, just so everyone realizes though I know people who have been waiting for their "turn" and following the rules for 11 years waiting for a green card...I'm just saying the answer is not as simple as people might think. And just fyi while they are waiting they don't get to go back to their country of origin ...that is part of immigration law...
justobserve
Not left nor right or center. Just a free thinker!
12:53 PM on 05/21/2010
If people came here illegally then they should be deported but if they got jobs then they shouldn't be called "illegal" but a more correct noun such as "temporary workers" or seasonal workers",.... The employers "legalized" these employees by employing them knowing they were illegal so employers are the culpits, not the "illegal aliens". Without the jobs they couldn't have stayed and should be deported.
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KIVPossum
Moldova Marsupial
01:06 PM on 05/21/2010
If they enter illegally and get jobs, they are STILL illegally. Many employers don't give a hoot and hire them, others make an effort, but the issue of fraudulent documents is a problem.
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sviolette
Hug a vet!!!
08:03 PM on 05/21/2010
It's the employers responsibility to check those documents for fraud. Some of those employers actually give them the documents. Then claim ignorance when caught. The illegal aliens are arrested and sent back but the employers just hire the next illegal immigrant that walks in the door. It's a big profit for illegal employers and they are going to keep doing it no matter how many you send back. There is always another one to take their place.

Arrest illegal employers!!!
01:07 PM on 05/21/2010
No, the employers did not "legalize" them by giving them jobs. Words have meanings you don't get to change them.
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CrestedSparrow
12:42 PM on 05/21/2010
I would prefer a President who has integrity and deals honestly with the Hispanic voters instead of acting like a cheating lover or worse yet, not a friend at all but an enemy. I would rather deal with a Bush who is transparent or a Repub where you know where you stand, then a sweet talking liar. It would be better to say, illegals must go home so we can give those jobs to Americans and in earnest make immediate changes, i.e., advertise and recruit for now vacated jobs and by the levels of deportations taking place, positions are being vacated. So where are those vacated jobs? Anybody have an answer, anybody know?
charles77
Just the Facts Please
02:34 PM on 05/21/2010
Most of that large number were caught on the border and returned.
We don't know how many of those simply suceeded on their next try.
The next biggest groups in you read the article, were criminals.
What HAS STOPPED, also pointed out in the article, is workplace raids.
These are what frees up jobs in things like construction, manufactoring, meatpacking, brick laying, etc.
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CrestedSparrow
03:22 PM on 05/21/2010
Hello. Illegals working in businesses are not different than those illegals being deported; they are one in the same. Again, where are the jobs now vacated and why haven't they been given to clamoring Americans?
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Lisette53
I am the 99%
03:52 AM on 05/22/2010
Oh ya, there is just a ton of construction jobs in AZ right now, LOL...and its all because the illegals took them...couldnt be because the bottom fell out of the Market because the public was bilked by the powers that be...nope it has to be illegals that have done this.
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logic123
God Didn't Make Man; Man Made Gods.
12:25 PM on 05/21/2010
Maybe I sound a little naive but if were so proud of our Country (land of the free, best country on earth, etc.) why don't we want other people to enjoy it as well?
Why don't we make it easier for immigrants to come here as a refuge?
Why are we so heartless, cruel and selfish?
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usamade
12:37 PM on 05/21/2010
We do, legally. Since 9/11 more than ever, we need to know who is here.
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Dangerous Dan
Because I can!
12:44 PM on 05/21/2010
Just a little naive.
I gladly want them to aspire to emulate this country.
They can copy the things that make US great.
If we just give it to them, there is no value.
If we do not hold them to the same standard as we do ourselves,
they will become president and assume that they are above the laws
and values that the majority of this country hold dear.
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logic123
God Didn't Make Man; Man Made Gods.
12:51 PM on 05/21/2010
Most of us are American's because we were born here.

Most every woman can get pregnant. We don't screen women here before they get pregnant or give birth to make sure they're going to teach their child to "value" their citizenship.

I have no problem with knowing who's in the country and what their history is but why do we make it so difficult for others to enjoy the freedoms we rave about?
11:13 AM on 05/21/2010
You have realized that the US does have an affect in Mexico's economy. I give you a fact/example the corn industry, which was Mexican #1 industry, is now destroy by US corporations who are subsidized by the UN government. On the other hand the Mexican government does support the Mexican farmer. Why? Because they are getting a CUT from the NAFTA agreement. With that saying and be clear this working class people have no choice to look NORTH and get the jobs that were taking from them to begin with. And of course there is no such of LEGAL way because the Immigration Laws do not cover for low-income communities who also don't have much education opportunities. JUST STOP BEING IGNORANT and before you use the word ILLEGAL (which is nothing but RACISM language) get you facts straight.

ITALIANS, GERMANS IRISH and lots of other europeans were also call Illegals by the ignorant people back then!!!!
12:22 PM on 05/21/2010
Is "ILLEGAL" always RACISM language or just when it's before the word immigrant?
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Dangerous Dan
Because I can!
12:45 PM on 05/21/2010
Only for cunning linguists like yourself.
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keramiel
01:59 PM on 05/21/2010
"Illegal" by itself isn't necessarily a racist term, but when "illegal" is continually used as a noun (e.g. 'those illegals.."), it's certainly dehumanizing.
charles77
Just the Facts Please
02:49 PM on 05/21/2010
Illegals does not refer to race but a group that came illegally.
30%-40% of illegals are not Hispanic nationwide.
Most people on the planet earn less than Americans. Most would come if they could.

NOTE: If you make $30,000.00 per year, you are in the top 7% economiclly WORLDWIDE!
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07:37 PM on 05/21/2010
mostly agree but $ 30k here buys far less than say in
Mexico, Central America, or much of the world.