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Dalai Lama, In New York, Preaches A Sunny Gospel

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First Posted: 05/21/10 04:25 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:35 PM ET

By Chris Herlinger
Religion News Service

NEW YORK (RNS) In a city tired and edgy from a sagging economy, terrorist threats and a cold and wet spring, comes the Dalai Lama with a sunny message of hope.

Despite a seeming endless supply of disasters and global woe, humanity is generally doing a better job of things that it used to, the Tibetan spiritual leader and Nobel Peace Prize laureate told journalists and followers Thursday (May 20) as he began four days of public appearances at Radio City Music Hall.

There are numerous "signs of humans becoming mature," the Buddhist leader said at a news conference at Radio City, which has become the spiritual leader's temporary home for the better part of a week.

The Dalai Lama, 74, has spent most of his New York visit in sold-out teaching sessions on several Buddhist commentaries and texts, and a public talk on the theme of "awakening the heart of selflessness." The Dalai Lama also plans a talk Sunday at the Episcopal Cathedral Church of St. John the Divine.

When asked the source of his hope, the Dalai Lama took a long view, noting that when he was born in 1935, the world had just emerged from one global conflict and was just years away from a second; in subsequent years the threat of a nuclear war was real and palpable.

But look at the world today, he said, marveling at an increased global hunger for peace and environmental protections; better relations between the superpowers; and the quick and massive global response to events like the devastating Jan. 12 Haitian earthquake.

All of these changes, he noted, occurred in the course of a century.

"Such a response (in the early 20th century) would not have been possible," the Tibetan leader said of massive humanitarian efforts in Haiti.

He also cited the absence of lingering ill will between the U.S. and its World War II enemies, Japan and Germany, as another source of accomplishment.

"These are the sources of my optimism," the Dalai Lama said. "If these forces are wrong, please let me know."

Part of the Dalai Lama's sense of hope is also borne from optimism over the long-term prospects for autonomy for Tibet, which has been occupied by China since 1959, with an exiled Tibetan government based in northern India.

Despite the unresolved status of Tibet and ongoing violence, the Dalai Lama said the long-term prospect for autonomy for Tibet is good because of increased desire within China for "transparency, rule of law, democracy and an independent judiciary."

"Our faith in the Chinese people has never been shaken," he said, adding he still considers himself a Marxist because of Marxism's belief in fair income distribution, though he also champions liberalizing market-driven reform in China.

The Buddhist leader spoke of a theme from his latest book, "Toward a True Kinship of Faiths," about the need for the world's religions to find common ground, and cited the example of India as a nation which can claim some success for its religious pluralism.

When challenged about the history of tension between India and predominately Muslim Pakistan, and ongoing religious tensions within India, the Dalai Lama said, to laughter, "Your understanding of India is limited."

"We have to look (at it) holistically," he said, citing the example of prominent Muslim, Sikh and Christian political figures within the predominately Hindu country.

Before he was done, the Dalai Lama had one last reminder, for journalists and their role in promoting understanding and harmony. Gently wagging his finger, he told them, "You must be honest, unbiased and truthful."

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01:46 AM on 07/07/2010
What does the Dalai Lama really know about life? He's never had to toil in a real job, never had any romantic relationships, never raised kids, never paid a mortgage; he's led a sheltered life since he was anointed at the age of two.

He's essentially a Trust Fund Baby philosophy major with very limited real world experience.
08:16 PM on 05/26/2010
Does anyone comprehend the significance that this Dalia Lama was born and raised a Muslim in Tagster, Tibet? Does anyone understand his parents were Muslims? Does anyone understand the essence of this man is one of a Muslim. It is uncanny that people do not see the implications that this was not the correct Dalia Lama that was chosen in the first place.
Does everyone understand that the Nazi SS Offiecers officially commented on the serverity that the Ruling Lama Class treated the peasants to their astonishment being more harsh than Medieval Europe. He had tensof thousands of serfs and slaves at the time the Chines invaded.
'He could have liberated his own people while he was in power. Only when he was exposed did he start shouting Free Tibet. Free for What? Reimplementing the Serf System.
What kind of lama take money for others to fight and die for his Kingdom?
Not a Buddhist One!
That would be impossible.
04:22 PM on 05/27/2010
Tabloid lies.
08:06 PM on 05/26/2010
No one relishes pointing out anothers faults and and using detogatory words to draw attention to the others problems. We all are human and have problems.
It is only when some of us begin to think as Yertle the Turtle and misrepsent themselves from one side of the world to the other. This is what the Dalia Lama is busy doing. Busy being a Politician instead of a monk.
He can profess whatever poitical sentiment he wishes. I doubt Lord Buddha would ever have adhered to a political postion,But this man does.
Anyone can check the facts by simply reviewing the web site or read the book by the www.westernshugdensociety,com new book that is the Dalia Lama own words taken into a book called,"The Great Deception" The High Lama Policy. Here on can decide for oneself, if this man is being straight or just hustling the naive West with his mundane Magician Powers?
04:23 PM on 05/27/2010
Blah, blah, blah.
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07:27 PM on 05/26/2010
"Well hello Dalai"

Sorry, had to be done...
01:58 PM on 05/24/2010
"The Dalai Lama, 74, has spent most of his New York visit in sold-out teaching sessions...".

There's a sucker born every minute.
03:50 PM on 05/24/2010
Yeah, just keep thinkin' that. All those "gullible" people around the world who would fit that description of yours. And the Nobel Peace Prize must have been orchestrated by gullible people as well, right?

LOL
12:04 PM on 05/24/2010
Yes, I sm familiar with the Jonangpa School and the debate between zhentong and rangtong. I'm also quite familiar with Hopkins' works, but have not read the two you mention above. Pretty dense stuff, don't you think?

And where do you stand in this debate? Do you have a position? I must confess to being most familiar with Tsongkha's works and the Prasangika Madhyamika School, although recently, I would say that I am getting some exposure to zhentong via my Dzogchen studies.

I recall when I was studying Tibetan at the University of Washington back in the 80's, there was a fierce debate raging between the zhentongpas and the rangtongpas. At the time, being a relative newbie, I can't say I had much to add one way or the other.
12:07 PM on 05/24/2010
Again, meant for a specific poster, not meant to go here! Very frustrating!
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taijiredlion
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01:23 PM on 05/24/2010
Quintus, your posts are so hot, the web can't handle them! I've had the occasional problem too.

My replies to your comments below -- in their original positions on the thread.

Good discussion.
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11:08 AM on 05/24/2010
Was Britt Hume in the audience telling Buddhist to convert to Christianity?
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09:29 PM on 05/23/2010
. . . as a spiritual leader he's expoentially more impressive than the pope.
11:18 PM on 05/23/2010
As a spiritual leader, as a man of compassion, as a person of authentic ethics, as a man of integrity, as a man of leadership, as a man advancing the world of mind research, as a man of inspiration... you get the picture. :-)
02:36 AM on 05/24/2010
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08:36 AM on 05/24/2010
Absolutely. (And I take it that quinus meant, "fanned," to which I agree. ;o)
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06:47 PM on 05/24/2010
Yes. At the very least, he doesn't support covering up molesting children.
07:18 PM on 05/23/2010
The Dalai Lama is a great, great, human being...
08:05 PM on 05/23/2010
Unless you live in mainland China, where the Dalai Lama is the great enemy and considered a huge threat to proper 'social order'. Young Chinese are normed into thinking he is something evil, the greatest of threats to the Chinese way of life. Mao's Red Book is still a great influence on the culture, even today I think.
11:18 PM on 05/23/2010
Mao is worshipped as something of a demi-god, isn't he?
07:08 PM on 05/23/2010
SO...I get tired of this...people say "That isn't very compassionate of you. What kind of Buddhist are you, anyway? This whole thig is a fraud." After 30 years of practice !!! I think i understand this...compassion and love for others is a FINAL stage of Buddhist practice. It doesn't just happen from thinking kind thoughts and going to visit the Dalai Lama. In this life maybe I can awaken the thought of compassion, just begin to think about it, maybe that's enough for now. When i see the Dalai lama, that thought becomes more vivid for me. I see that it can be a reality, maybe not for me right now, with all my anger and fear, but that it does exist and can be moved towards with deliberate practice of the teachings. I think I've gotten this far.
07:59 PM on 05/23/2010
Many monks, even the Dalai Lama, say that their 'goal' in life is to grow in their compassion. Like seeking perfection, it is a simple and endless goal. Working on increasing your compassion is a lot like working to become more educated, in the sense that you can never actually achieve your goal perfectly.
06:37 PM on 05/23/2010
Ok, I'll accept that if we can agree that the Buddha nature does not represent a substantial self (ātman); rather, it is a positive language and expression of emptiness (śūnyatā) and represents the potentiality to realize Buddhahood through Buddhist practices.
06:27 PM on 05/23/2010
Fine, as long as we agree that the Buddha nature does not represent a substantial self (ātman); rather, it is a positive language and expression of emptiness (śūnyatā) and represents the potentiality to realize Buddhahood through Buddhist practices; the intention of the teaching of Buddha nature is soteriological rather than theoretical.
06:40 PM on 05/23/2010
These comments keep appearing here rather than where I've been intending them to go!
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12:49 AM on 05/24/2010
Who knows? Maybe it was fate. Quintus, I recently ran across a school of Tibetan Buddhist thought politically suppressed for centuries called the "Jonangpa." They do in fact believe the Buddha nature (the dharmadatu or tathagatagharba) represents an "inherently real, thoroughly established ultimate". Their view on emptiness is called "zhentong", or "other-emptiness", as opposed to the orthodox "rangtong", or "self-emptiness." It turns out many great Tibetan Buddhist thinkers down the centuries have agreed with them, especially in the ecumenical Rime movement. After a number of functioning Jonangpa monasteries were found in the 80's in eastern Tibet, the current Dalai Lama reestablished them as one of the official schools of Buddhist thought, and the debate between self- and other-emptiness continues. It's a fascinating debate that mirrors in many ways the debate between atheists and theists in the West. It's also a fascinating story of cultural survival.

A short review is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonang

The Jonangpa Foundation is here: http://jonangfoundation.org/

And the major work on "zhentong", called "Mountain Doctrine: Tibet's Fundamental Treatise on Other-Emptiness and the Buddha Matrix", translated by Jeffrey Hopkins, is here: http://www.amazon.com/Mountain-Doctrine-Fundamental-Treatise-Other-Emptiness/dp/155939238X

Perhaps most important is Hopkin's comparison of the two theories of emptiness, in his "Tsong-Kha-Pa's Final Exposition of Wisdom", here: http://www.amazon.com/Tsong-Kha-Pas-Exposition-Wisdom-Jeffrey-Hopkins/dp/1559392975/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_4
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09:31 AM on 05/24/2010
There is no ego in the Buddha nature, in there you can find the Ten Perfections. Taken a closer look at the Perfections do you find attachment?
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11:10 AM on 05/23/2010
IF there is 'sin' i propose it is SELFISHNESS!

The Dali Lama said the radicalism of our generation is to learn to become COMPASSIONATE people.

The truth is that the best Christians are also Buddhists, such as Thomas Merton, Trappist monk poet, social critic and mystic, who said: "I see no contradiction between Buddhism and Christianity. I intend to become as good a Buddhist as I can...

"I believe that by openness to Buddhism, to Hinduism, and to these great Asian traditions, we stand a wonderful chance of learning more about the potentiality of our own traditions, because they (the Asians) have gone, from the natural point of view, so much deeper into this than we have....

"The anguish of the modern person is based upon an addiction to a false self, one's ego-mind, that only a realization of the no-self (Buddhism) or dying to one's self (Christianity) could transform...only people authentically free can contribute to this dialogue since the purpose of it is to free people from the wheel of causation and suffering."

COMPASSION is Manifestation of The Divine @
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz112vHGArA
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03:10 PM on 05/23/2010
This is a skilled post. I enjoyed your comments and bow to the Buddha in you.
03:43 PM on 05/23/2010
Great post. You might be interested in this new book by the Dalai Lama:

TOWARD A TRUE KINSHIP OF FAITHS: How the World's Religions Can Come Together by the Dalai Lama
http://www.snowlionpub.com/html/product_10131.html
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09:06 AM on 05/23/2010
Doesn't he think he's a god?
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10:29 AM on 05/23/2010
No.
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10:50 AM on 05/23/2010
No. he had gall bladder surgery in Delhi in 2008, after recovery once back in Dharmasala, he commented: see Iam a very ordinary human and then he chuckled.
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11:11 AM on 05/23/2010
"I said, you are gods: you are all children of the Most High God."-Psalm 82:6

It has been said that evolution is being held up by fundamental religiosity and militant atheism is the new fundamentalism. A fundamentalist is anyone who is so rigidly attached to their point of view they have closed their minds and hearts to the Mystery of The Ultimate Mystery of the Universe/Pure Being/God for lack of a better word.

The bumper sticker actually did get it right: "We are spiritual beings having a human experience."

"The Stages of the Soul and How Religiosity/Fundamentalism is holding up Evolution" @
http://www.wearewideawake.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=825&Itemid=195
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01:29 AM on 05/24/2010
Eileen, I enjoy your posts. I wonder, though, if rather than holding up evolution, fundamentalism (theistic and atheistic) is not actually promoting it by building creative tension to such a pitch that sufficient energy becomes available to break down the old rigid formations, and allow the new, higher order spirituality to emerge. Creative destruction via polar tension implosion. Providing, of course, we survive the evolutionary bottleneck.
04:53 AM on 05/23/2010
Beautiful. One of the last feudal theocrats (alas in exile for now) says that the largest oppressive regime in human history has an increased desire for "transparency, rule of law, democracy and an independent judiciary."

Well, sure this "enlightened" old man knows his stuff when it comes to rule of law and democracy, and an independent judiciary, what with Tibet's long history in all those disciplines.

If it wouldn't involve so many suffering people, it would be too funny for words.