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White House Seeks To Speed Up 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Repeal

PHILIP ELLIOTT   05/24/10 10:30 PM ET   AP

White House Dont Ask Dont Tell

WASHINGTON — A proposal to step up the repeal of the ban on gays and lesbians serving openly in the military but still allow the Pentagon time – perhaps even years – to implement new policies won the White House's backing on Monday after administration officials met with gay rights activists.

The White House budget office sent a letter supporting the proposal to remove the Clinton-era "don't ask, don't tell" law even as the Pentagon continues a review of the system. Implementation of policy for gays serving openly would still require the approval of President Barack Obama, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen. How long implementation might take is not known, but the proposed amendment would have no effect on current practices.

"The proposed amendment will allow for completion of the comprehensive review, enable the Department of Defense to assess the results of the review, and ensure that the implementation of the of the repeal is consistent with standards of military readiness, effectiveness, unit cohesion, recruiting and retention," budget chief Peter Orszag wrote in identical evening letters to Pennsylvania Rep. Patrick Murphy, Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman and Michigan Sen. Carl Levin – the Democrats leading the push for repeal

Murphy, an Iraq war veteran, was expected to introduce the legislative proposal on Tuesday. Gay rights groups urged a quick vote, which could come as early as Thursday.

"Without a repeal vote by Congress this year, the Pentagon's hands are tied and the armed forces will be forced to continue adhering to the discriminatory 'don't ask, don't tell' law," said Joe Solmonese, president of the Human Rights Campaign.

The White House had hoped lawmakers would delay action until Pentagon officials had completed their study so fellow Democrats would not face criticism that they moved too quickly or too far ahead of public opinion in this election year. Instead, administration officials recognized it could not stop Congress in its effort to repeal the 1993 ban and joined the negotiations.

Hours after activists met at the White House, top Democratic lawmakers met on Capitol Hill and approved the final version of a brokered deal that adds the repeal to the annual defense spending bill.

Obama called for the repeal during his State of the Union address this year, and Gates and Mullen have echoed his views but have cautioned any action must be paced.

In a speech last year at the Army War College in Carlisle, Pa., Gates noted that the 1948 executive order for racial integration took five years to implement.

"I'm not saying that's a model for this, but I'm saying that I believe this is something that needs to be done very, very carefully," he told the audience.

One organization dedicated to repealing the law urged supporters to hold celebration.

"President Obama's support and Secretary Gates' buy-in should ensure a winning vote, but we are not there yet," said Aubrey Sarvis, an Army veteran and Servicemembers Legal Defense Network executive director. "The votes still need to be worked and counted."

The administration has argued that any repeal should start in Congress and have the backing of top military leaders. Gay rights activists criticized the administration as Obama did little to push for a repeal during his first year in office.

On Capitol Hill, the third-ranking House Republican promised unified GOP opposition to lifting the ban. "The American people don't want the American military to be used to advance a liberal political agenda. And House Republicans will stand on that principle," said Mike Pence, R-Ind.

Pence urged Democrats who control both chambers to wait until the Pentagon completes its review of what a repeal would take.

Congress led hearings on a repeal and heard testimony from Gates and Mullen – the top uniformed official in the country – in favor of repeal. Additionally, a Gallup poll earlier this month found 70 percent of American favor allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly.

Obama's relationship with gay activists has been rocky since his election. Gays and lesbians objected to the invitation of evangelist Rev. Rick Warren's to participate in Obama's inauguration because of Warren's support for repealing gay marriage in California. Obama responded by having Episcopalian Bishop V. Gene Robinson, the denomination's first openly gay bishop, participate at another event.

Obama has taken a slow and incremental approach to the politically charged issues. He has expanded some federal benefits to same-sex partners, but not health benefits or pension guarantees. He has allowed State Department employees to include their same-sex partners in certain embassy programs already available to opposite-sex spouses.

The military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy was imposed by a 1993 law intended as a compromise between President Bill Clinton, who wanted to lift the ban on gays entirely, and a reluctant Congress and military that said doing so would threaten order.

Under the policy, the military can't ask recruits their sexual orientation. In turn, service members can't say they are gay or bisexual, engage in homosexual activity or marry a member of the same sex.

Between 1997 and 2008, the Defense Department discharged more than 10,500 service members for violating the policy.

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Associated Press writers Anne Flaherty and Jim Abrams contributed to this report.

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DRaymond 12:27 PM on 05/25/2010
For those of you wondering why Obama didn't just do the commander-in-chief thing, remember that it was Clinton's trying the same thing that wound up with congress passing DADT in the first place. It is also the reason why Congress specifically undoing that law is important. it means that by dismantling DADT the military are specifically following the law, not circumventing it.

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12:10 PM on 07/23/2010
No way that the Senate will approve this...republicans are obstructionists and the conservative dem's are wusses.
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Ascoli
07:31 PM on 05/30/2010
Only the USA could still be having this discussion of gays in the year 2010.
It all seems so stupid ....because it is.
01:01 AM on 05/29/2010
The above is proof Obama is Jimmy carter on Steroids

Myra
12:57 AM on 05/29/2010
Great! We'll call them the "Tinker Bell" Division or "Code Pink" Don't drop the soap boys, you'll be sorry.

Have a nice day,

Myra
09:37 PM on 05/26/2010
I was in the Army 55 years ago risking my tail getting shot off in the Korean War to help the USA become a safer and nicer and more tolerant place to live. I am gay and so were many others at the time risking their lives--and I'm sure this has been the case all the way back to the times of George Washington.

But for the narrow minded and intolerant, our risking our lives so they will have the freedom to preach their bigotry is totally unappreciated by them. The USA is either a free country or it isn't.

There is a lot of foot dragging about this whole Don't Ask Don't Tell matter from the President on down. Obama just doesn't want to get the Republicans mad at him over the issue. He could get behind this Don't Ask Don't Tell repeal and it would be a done deal in a heartbeat.

But here someone like me is still waiting over a half-century later for people to get over the fact that this is the Land of the Free -- not the Land of The Limited Free--the former is what I a gay man fought for and risked my life for--and the latter is what I a gay man fought against. Gays have paid as big a price for total freedom as the straights have. Isn't it about time we as a nation realized that and honored it with a bit of dignity?
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sprtakis69
Shouldn't all people be entitled to Equal rights?
02:48 PM on 05/26/2010
Time to start hitting the new Repug website http://www.americaspeakingout.com/ and asking them to repeal DADT!!!!

They want to know what America wants! Lets tell them!
03:51 PM on 05/26/2010
Are you serious, most of the comments there are from fools that obviously don't care about anything
09:17 AM on 05/26/2010
I wish Americans were as passionate about the wars, oil spills and Wall Street crimes as gays are about DADT.
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AnotherTry
Tell me again why we can't be equal?
11:07 AM on 05/26/2010
We only discuss DADT because its the only issue they'll allow us to discuss. Equality under the law is just TOO much for them to handle. We don't set the agenda. I wish.
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06:30 AM on 05/26/2010
American soldiers should never be forced to share close living quarters with open homosexuals. It's an irreconcilable oil-and-water scenario. and a nonexempt military draft will be unavoidable if DADT is repealed.
01:11 PM on 05/26/2010
Precisely what is your proof?

Are you aware that there are countries in which gay men and women do serve openly in the military and that it has caused no problems?
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sprtakis69
Shouldn't all people be entitled to Equal rights?
01:46 PM on 05/26/2010
Wolf V must be an old fart who can't get his head around today's modern military members. There are still some in the older ranks who can't seem to grasp that today's youth are quite alright working/living alongside their gay/lesbian service members.

I should know, I retired from the the Navy last year and for 20 years I never had one issue with my sexuality and the sexuality of those around me. During those years I've made some really good friends who are straight. On the last ship I was stationed on there were less than 20 gays and lesbians on board within the officer and enlisted ranks. Many people new who was homosexual and who wasn't. There were no problems in our berthing area's and not one person was kicked out for being gay.

My best friend just got off a ship where his Master Chiefs partner went to nearly every fun port the ship pulled into during their deployment and everyone knew they were a couple, but no one cared!

Today's troops just don't care. Now service members over, I'd save 40, some of them are still as homophobic as Wolf V, but most of them are entering retiring age and being replaced by youth who are quite OK with homosexuals!
03:16 PM on 05/26/2010
23 years of militay service is my proof .How many years have you spent living with little to no privacy.
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LaurieAnn
Wake Up! Grow Up! Lighten Up!
07:17 PM on 05/26/2010
I lived in the dorms in college and had to share those old-fashion non-curtained showers with lesbians. Everyone respected everyone else. Adults of all sexual persuasions need to have self-control. I don't see why it won't work.
02:46 AM on 05/26/2010
I just don't get it. In my job (private Co.) it is illegal to dicriminate on basis of sex, race or sexual preference. I believe it is the same for all Govt. jobs not directly in the Military. So why is it different in the military?
03:45 PM on 05/26/2010
because your not living sleeping, showering, and have to deal with immoral, despicable, unnatural acts
07:10 PM on 05/26/2010
I was in the Air Force. I didn't see any sex going on of any kind or anyone checking me out or anything else you think goes on, while sharing rooms. Not all homosexuals are perverts just like not all heterosexuals are perverts. Judge each person individually not a whole group. If someone breaks a rule kick them out. But keeping them out merely for being gay is wrong in my opinion.
01:14 AM on 05/26/2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aotlEpmAFVQ

Gays to precious to risk in combat. Keep them out of the military.
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sprtakis69
Shouldn't all people be entitled to Equal rights?
01:49 PM on 05/26/2010
OMG, I know! I saw that last month. Well, I'm sure it's the same one (I can't watch it because I'm on a Navy ship and can't access youtube from behind the firewall).

Anyway, if it's the same one, it was a hoot!
07:11 PM on 05/26/2010
It is funny. I just noticed someone flagged it as abusive lol.
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Chucktheman
12:45 AM on 05/26/2010
This needs to be repealed ASAP , the foolishness has gone on long enough. I served in the 80s and there were lots of gays in the service all doing aa good a job as anyone else. I didn't know that they were gay unless they told me and I didnt ask. We had no such policy as DADT back then and nobody outed anybody because we did not care. As long as someone can handle the mission, gay or straight that is all that mattered. If you cant do that then you would get some shi* over it. but not because of orientation. In fact I think the military is more of a safe haven for minorities of all types. Don't get me wrong there are people who are prejudiced but for the most part they become more accepting. You count on one another and you know you can trust the other guy or girl.There are folks who get short changed on benefits extended to straight couples. We can get married. Gays cannot so thier spouse gets no health care, They would not get the same housing allowance, or even combat benefits. We fight for freedom. These are basic freedoms we do not all get to enjoy. Freedom and Justice for all. not for.....some. This is past due.
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tangelan
"We don't believe you!" Alright, alright.
11:37 PM on 05/25/2010
Republicans think because you don't acknowledge gays in the military it means they don't exist. They're still in the military. They are told they have to sacrifice their lives to protect our country but they can't be who they are. The inner workings of the republican brain continues to fascinate me. Stick your fingers in your ears and yell "la la la la".

Here's a hint republicans: Living a lie causes you to over-react to the little things, like the private lives of others. Living a lie causes you to tro ll sites like rentboy.com on the DL to pay for "baggage handlers".
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sprtakis69
Shouldn't all people be entitled to Equal rights?
01:55 PM on 05/26/2010
Republicans run a really good Family Values platform and being gay is against Family Values!

Although it seems adultery is quite alright in their book!!!

I was always taught that lying was a sin as well as adultery. Don't most adulterers lie about what they're doing?

So it appears they believe in compulsively lying and repeated sex acts with persons who are not their spouses.......

Now - repugs, before you have a collective coronary, yes, I know, some Dems (not nearly as many as repugs) have also been adulterers. The Dems however, are not trying to control peoples personal sex lives outside of work!!!
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gevan
the pilgrim has landed
11:32 PM on 05/25/2010
Just get it over with and replace 'don't ask don't tell' with 'don't know don't care'.
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tangelan
"We don't believe you!" Alright, alright.
11:54 PM on 05/25/2010
I like 'You care, go eff yourself'.
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07:28 PM on 05/25/2010
"Without a repeal vote by Congress this year, the Pentagon's hands are tied and the armed forces will be forced to continue adhering to the discriminatory 'don't ask, don't tell' law."

Not to mention that if it doesn't get done this year, and we lose the Dem majority in Congress, it ain't gonna happen.

I predict the GOPers pull out all their usual stalling tactics. Hang tough Dems!
06:11 PM on 05/25/2010
I read this article in total disbelief over its assertion that it would take years to implement a repeal.

This "law" was passed in 1993 and took less than a year to put in place and start removing servicemen. It should be implemented immediately by the simple act of not acting on any of the original law's stipulations. Any current actions being taken by the military should stop and be removed immediately upon the passing and signing of the law by Presidential signature. Period.

It should not require more than 24 hours to notify all military commands of this law's demise. If it takes any longer than that, it is because the military does not want to obey the law.

Simple.