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Dems Scale Back 'Jobs' Bill To Appease Deficit Hawks; Hawks Still Not Appeased

First Posted: 05/27/10 02:14 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:35 PM ET

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Even after Democratic leadership scaled back its bill to reauthorize several domestic aid programs, reducing its impact on the federal budget deficit by $50 billion, conservative rank-and-file Democrats remain unhappy.

Blue Dog Democrat Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (S.D.) said Thursday that several Blue Dogs are firmly against the bill and that party leadership doesn't have enough votes to pass it, according to CongressDaily.

"People should be embarrassed. We're Democrats," Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) told HuffPost. "We're supposed to care about the people that are unemployed. We're supposed to care about extending health benefits to people that don't have insurance but were working. And in this time of unemployment, and in this time when we're trying to generate jobs, it's embarrassing that a portion of our party feels, out of political necessity, that they have to be the opponents."

There has been no indication from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), however, that she will again postpone a vote on the bill, which was supposed to have been sent to the Senate on Tuesday.

"There's a lot of conversation still ongoing here. As Yogi says, 'It ain't over till it's over'," said Jane Harman, a Blue Dog Democrat from California. "I think one of the big issues here aside from the size is the lack of [funding offsets]. I think there's still angst."

"What you're seeing is this excessive stubbornness," said one Dem. "The last person to say no wins."

The bill in question, the American Jobs and Closing Loopholes Act, among other things prevents a pay cut to doctors who serve Medicare patients ("Doc fix" in Hillspeak) and reauthorizes unemployment benefits and subsidized COBRA health insurance, programs set to expire on June 1 without congressional action. If Congress adjourns for its Memorial Day recess without taking action, doctors will see a 21 percent reduction in Medicare payments and hundreds of thousands of long-term unemployed will begin to lose eligibility for their next "tier" of unemployment benefits.

Initially, the bill reauthorized the unemployment benefits for the rest of the year and extended Doc fix for five years; the reduced version reauthorizes the extended benefits through November and does Doc fix for only two years. Those and other cuts reduce the bill's 10-year deficit impact from $134 billion to $80 billion.

"Before, they were touting the jobs created by the stimulus," said Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, who thinks the focus on the deficit is insane. "Maybe now we should start counting the jobs lost by the cutbacks."

The bill essentially pits the unemployed against investment fund managers and deficit hawks -- a fight the latter groups are winning.

"The situation I see is that members who are from low unemployment areas are very concerned about the deficit. Members who are from high unemployment areas are very concerned about jobs," said Pelosi. "So we have to come to a compromise as to how to move forward and we did with this [bill's unemployment provisions] going to November."

Several Democratic senators have voiced concerns about one of the bill's revenue-raisers, an increased tax on investment fund managers allowed to classify ordinary income as capital gains, which lets them pay less than half in taxes than they otherwise would. But the reduced deficit impact will help the bill's chances in the Senate.

On the House side, too, there is opposition to taxing the fund managers. Harman said she had reservations about closing the loophole and was still educating herself. Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.) said he was worried the tax would harm the commercial real estate market by targeting managers of real estate partnerships.

Regardless, Connolly said, he'll be voting against the current measure because of deficit concerns. "What's dispositive for me is two-thirds of the bill remains unpaid for," he told reporters. "I support the policy. I support extending unemployment insurance. I support providing COBRA for those who've lost their jobs. I support trying to find a temporary or permanent fix to the doctor payment challenge...But what hangs in the balance to me is the whole question of payfors."

The trimming pleased some deficit hawks, though many are still holding out.

"It's much better than it was," said Senate Budget Committee chairman Kent Conrad (D-N.D.). "It's a substantial improvement."

Grijalva, however, said that if leadership cuts too much, progressives could oppose the bill. "It's reaching a tipping point. For myself and I believe other progressives, if those things get stripped, then what are we voting for? There's a Catch-22 no. We've been tolerant of the whittling. Now it's bare bones," said Grijalva, a cochair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. "Anything further is a real problem for us."

The Blue Dog effort to slash the price tag, said Grijalva, has nothing to do with policy or with a particular number. "I think it's a show of power more than the number. 'We control this process. We control what happens out of the Democratic caucus fiscally and this is what we want.' Some of the more ardent supporters of an extra 600 million dollars for border security don't blink at that. They don't blink at that, because in some theory that's supposed to help them get elected. Well progressives, in order to get elected, we also have to be doing something for regular folk. Who you're going to satisfy becomes a problem for leadership," said Grijalva.

UPDATE -- 3:40 p.m.: Senate Finance Committee Chair Max Baucus (D-Mont.) tells HuffPost that he's working out an agreement on what amendments could be offered by Republicans. Democrats need some GOP votes to break a Republican filibuster; allowing them to amend the bill gives them buy-in and could win support. But it comes at a high cost. The House had been planning to pass its bill and head out of town for the Memorial Day break. If any changes are made to the bill, it could languish over the break as programs and benefits expire.

"We're ready. Soon as the House sends it over. We will pass it," Baucus said. "Gotta work out an agreement with the Republicans on votes. We're going to have to work out some accommodation on amendments."

UPDATE -- 3:58 p.m.: House leadership is meeting to decide how to proceed.

UPDATE -- 6:00 p.m.: Asked if the House would vote tonight, a brusque House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said, "we are STILL talking!" as he left the leadership meeting.

Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) said they were talking with members about possible changes to the bill and could finish up before the break -- but he didn't say they'd vote tonight.

It later emerged that Democrats are thinking of dropping COBRA health insurance subsidies for laid off workers to get Blue Dog support. "It's obscene," Appropriations Chairman Dave Obey said. But it's working: Blue Dog Henry Cuellar (Texas) said he is leaning toward supporting the bill if dropping COBRA and other provisions reduces its deficit impact $60 billion. Rep. John Larson, (D-Conn.) told HuffPost that the COBRA cut is not finalized.

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Abbybwood
After over 40 years of support for the Democratic
12:31 PM on 05/29/2010
What's my reaction?

Seeing Jane "AIPAC: This conversation doesn't exist" Harman's photo on the article roughly one week before her primary where the PROGRESSIVE Marcy Winograd is trying to upset her her in So. Cal.

Nice to see that Jane could manage to get herself a little ink....oops, I mean megapixels, here at HuffPo.

I wish I could vote for Winograd a thousand times instead of just once.

Oh, and as to the unemployment benefits....I think the American people (taxpayers) need to take a collective (no pun) step back and see that our fellow Americans who are in trouble with foreclosures/job losses didn't just get here by some mysterious reasons.

This world-wide economic meltdown happened ON PURPOSE. Those on Wall Street who were investing in toxic derivatives and liar loans KNEW that what they were doing would eventually come back to bite us all.

Where are the Grand Juries? Where are the indictments? Who, besides Madoff has been cuffed and convicted?

Crimes have been committed. In Congress as well. Which is why at the voting booths we should be FIRING THEM ALL since NONE OF THEM REALLY FOUGHT FOR US FROM THE BEGINNING!
09:46 PM on 05/28/2010
I guess the unemployed need a better lobbying firm.
madame48
NO..it's a gop Cookbook !Tempus edax,homo edacior
07:35 PM on 05/28/2010
what the h##ll? Dems are protecting a 15% income tax rate for hedge fund fatcat while the janitor who maintains his office pays 25%??? because it might be a commercial "hardship" for these guys? disgusting
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Artemis34
"Women 4 the GOP" is like "Chickens 4 the KFC"
10:16 AM on 06/04/2010
Yes, let's keep Par!s H!lton's unearned income tax rate at 15% but cut everyone off unemployment and COBRA subsidy.
07:28 PM on 05/28/2010
Always GOP money for war,

never Dem money for "we the people."

The GOP drive deficit skyward, and the Dems balance the budget.

the GOP drive us into the ditch, then force us into debt to pay for the tow.

getting it yet?
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Lindasmithsart
05:44 PM on 05/28/2010
We cannot get out of a depression without spending on the people and putting money into the economy to keep liquid assets fluid. If the spending dries up we will see further unemployment and a further decline in corporate profits. That was one of the basic principles behind F.D.Roosevelt's policy, because, like Obama, he inherited a severe deficit.
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WarriorLemming
An avalanche On Republican's B*llsh*t Mountain
06:09 PM on 05/28/2010
Makes sense to me, Lindasmithsart. Those Blue Dog Democrats just keep socking it to "main street" America just like the Repugs if we don't vote them out then we deserve everything we get.
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Sebbybear
Anglo-Catholic & Christian Socialist
12:47 PM on 05/28/2010
It's becoming painfully clear that we no longer have government "by the people, for the people". We have government by corporate interest for their own financial gain. Our elections are frauds. Only the very wealthy can get elected to public office. Both parties manipulate the voter with lies and half-truths. Corporate and government malfeasance proliferates unchecked or even encouraged. Our government spends billions of dollars on illegal and unnecessary wars while sending billions more in aid to foreign nations, ignoring our domestic infrastructure and dying cities.
Both parties are two faces of the same rotten establishment. The Republicans exploit our ignorance and fear. They manipulate working-class Americans into voting against their own economic interests, then claim a mandate for their pro-business anti-worker policies. The Democrats claim to represent the interests of working-class Americans but then consistently act against the interests of those they say they support; i.e. no public option, effective jobs creation programs, or extensions of unemployment compensation, turning a blind eye to corporate destruction of our environment and the waste/alienation of our natural resources.
It is obvious that the officials in Washington, of both parties and in all three branches of government, no longer represent the majority of hard-working Americans; white, black, latino, asian, straight, gay, etc. They represent a cabal of multi-national corporations and the super wealthy persons who own them.
Sadly, the American Experiment seems to be well on it's way to ending in failure.
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Artemis34
"Women 4 the GOP" is like "Chickens 4 the KFC"
12:02 PM on 05/28/2010
Just keep saying "Let them eat cake" guys!
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Artemis34
"Women 4 the GOP" is like "Chickens 4 the KFC"
11:59 AM on 05/28/2010
There are not "deficit hawks" on the right.

True deficit hawks would have allowed the government to negotiate volume discounts on drugs, a fine capitalist concept, in Medicare part D (d big give away to big pharma).

True deficit hawks would not have used mercenaries in lieu of service members.

True deficit hawks would not allow "no bid" contracting.

True deficit hawks would have supported public universal single payer health care, proven to be the most cost effective way to deliver quality care throughout the industrialized world.

True deficit hawks would not have cut taxes for the wealthy.

There are no true deficit hawks on the right. Only people who want to sacrifice the least among us on the altar of corporate interests.
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Cthulhu On Call
As soon as I'm done with my nap, you're all in tro
06:26 PM on 06/03/2010
I agree, this sudden interest in the National Debt is nothing more than an excuse to oppose Obama's desired reforms.
10:21 AM on 05/28/2010
Why isn't anyone speaking up for those of us that have already been left without an income since the first of March. How hard are your heads or you simply don't care. THERE AREN'T ANY JOBS! What are we to do? Not being able to find work is NOT our fault. There simply isn't ANYONE hiring.This is insanity. I'm at a loss for words for what's happening. You want to save a few billion? Bring our troops home and stop fighting over the oil in some other country. Give us work or give us our benefits. We lost our jobs to NO FAULT of our own and can't find a job to NO FAULT of our own. The same people that WATCHED the economy fall apart are the same people in power right now so I guess we really can't expect much. We thank you for nothing.
madame48
NO..it's a gop Cookbook !Tempus edax,homo edacior
07:37 PM on 05/28/2010
but hey, the financial whizzes are doing great eh?
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Yurdelite51
11:13 AM on 05/29/2010
What pray tell would you have those people who "watched" the economy fall apart do? Are you talking about republicans or Democrats. When one party is in control of three branches of the federal government, what would you suggest the minority party do?

If republicans were still in charge they would still be giving tax cuts to the richest among us. Didn't see any outrage when republicans passed three tax cuts for them without paying for them. So, if you think Democrats in general have not been helping the people then have I got some republicans to show you something different.

Ms. Harmon needs to go away. The blue dogs need to go away. Blue dogs are nothing more than republicans masquerading as Democrats. I find it amusing that they have no problem with war spending but just cannot find it in their heart to help Americans in need. Whenever Harmon comes up for re-election they need to run somebody against her--same thing goes for Mr. Blue Dog Nelson in Florida and Nebraska.
07:48 AM on 05/28/2010
CNBC had a show on marijuana last night. I have an idea, lets legalize it and tax the dickens out of it and clear up our debt completely. Plus put millions to work. The war on drugs is a costly failure and we need to wise up.
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Rogo99
They're the new extreme right-you know...the rest
06:29 AM on 05/28/2010
I appreciated the COBRA subsidy, I can now afford it. When it goes back to its regular cost, I'm not so sure. Hope I have a job by then.
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Arthur Delaney
Arthur Delaney covers unemployment for HuffPost
07:54 AM on 05/28/2010
Rogo99, get in touch! arthur@huffingtonpost.com.
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ZeMongoose
04:39 AM on 05/28/2010
There is nothing more beautiful than a Blue Dog Democrat burying their child.
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kdlaiusa
Even B&B are smarter than the Republicans.
03:00 AM on 05/28/2010
Good God, who's that vampire on the photo?
02:49 AM on 05/28/2010
Here's a thought..END FOREIGN AID AND INCREASE DOMESTIC AID. Tax dollars staying at home.
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gun1934
75 years old fisherman
01:11 PM on 05/28/2010
it aint over until the fat lady sings
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Tequilatarian
02:46 AM on 05/28/2010
Jane Harman should worry about people being out of work...as I hope she is after the June primary in CA.

We need Marcy Winograd in that district. Why there is Blue Dog in the Santa Monica/Venice region is beyond me.

I cannot wait for Jane to go bye bye.
02:49 AM on 05/28/2010
Fanned
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procrustes13
06:51 PM on 05/28/2010
Rahm Emanuel has been trying to put Blue Dogs everywhere, including in the most progressive areas possible.