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Sestak-Obama Job Offer: Legal Case Against It 'Looks Silly', Say Public Integrity Lawyers

First Posted: 05/28/10 04:34 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:35 PM ET

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The saga surrounding the White House's floating of a job to Rep. Joe Sestak (D-Penn.) in the early summer months of 2009 took on new levels of political drama Friday following the release of more detailed information about the offer.

But as both political sides reorient themselves around the fault lines, the more fundamental question of whether laws were actually broken seems to get more dull.

In interviews with the Huffington Post, two prominent public integrity lawyers with white-collar crime and Justice Department experience say that if the White House and Sestak's account of what happened is to be believed, then no sober-minded prosecutor would pursue the case.

"I looked through it," Steve Bunnell of the firm O'Melveny & Myers, said of the job-offering related document released by the White House on Friday. "I don't see anything criminal about what happened. Basically you are talking about political horse-trading, which strikes me as an inherent part of democracy. There is nothing inherently bad about it unless you think politics and democracy are bad."

Formerly the Chief of the Criminal Division of the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia, Bunnell has no shortage of exposure with public corruption cases. The Sestak scandal not only passes the smell test, it doesn't really smell, he said. Bunnell isn't alone in his reading of the issue's legal underpinnings.

"I have seen the White House description of what occurred," said James Cooper, formerly Deputy Chief of the Criminal Division at the Justice Department and now with the firm Arnold & Porter. "Certainly, as described, it does not sound to me as the sort of thing that any reasonable prosecutor would view as criminal. It seems to me that this is the political process at work... I don't understand as a legal matter how a prosecutor could sustain a case charging either party in this matter. I don't know of any precedent off the top of my head for anybody being prosecuted in this context."

All of which, undoubtedly, will do little to diminish the political theatrics surrounding the Sestak saga. On Friday, the White House released a memo designed to defuse the controversy once and for all. The contents revealed that Bill Clinton had approached Sestak prior to the congressman entering the Pennsylvania Senate Democratic primary. The former president, on behalf of White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, presented the idea that Sestak would serve in an uncompensated advisory role while remaining in the House. Sestak ultimately turned down the offer.

Forced to judge the information with the knowledge of who provided it, the reaction has been predictable. Sestak himself put out a statement backing up the White House's retelling of events and declaring that his focus was squarely on the campaign. Republicans aren't so forgiving. RNC Chairman Michael Steele said that the administration memo "frankly raises more questions."

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Cali.), who as ranking member of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform has spearheaded the charge to investigate the job offer, was even more critical.

"I'm very concerned that in the rush to put together this report, the White House has done everything but explain its own actions and has instead worked to craft a story behind closed doors and coordinate with those involved," he said in a statement. "The White House has admitted today to coordinating an arrangement that would represent an illegal quid pro quo as federal law prohibits directly or indirectly offering any position or appointment, paid or unpaid, in exchange for favors connected with an election."

But Issa's reading of the law is a narrow one, both Bunnell and Cooper argue. There was no money offered or threats made, they note. And while the administration did dangle the prospect of serving in a non-compensated position, it hardly constituted the type of ethical indiscretion that spurred investigations in the past.

Bunnell, for one, noted the firing of U.S. Attorneys during the Bush years, in which officials were dismissed ostensibly for the purpose of benefiting Republican congressional candidates. Compared to that, he added, the Sestak saga "looks silly."

"It may be bad government in some context," he said, "but other then entering an election season, I don't understand what the big deal is."

In addition, Richard Painter, the chief White House ethics officer under George W. Bush, dismissed the "scandal," telling the Plum Line's Greg Sargent that it's time for Republicans to "move on."

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The saga surrounding the White House's floating of a job to Rep. Joe Sestak (D-Penn.) in the early summer months of 2009 took on new levels of political drama Friday following the release of more deta...
The saga surrounding the White House's floating of a job to Rep. Joe Sestak (D-Penn.) in the early summer months of 2009 took on new levels of political drama Friday following the release of more deta...
 
 
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dfranz
With Liberty and Justice for all
06:52 PM on 05/31/2010
The Republicans have never been afraid to bring up silly causes to try to impeach a Democratic President. Their only problem is that they aren't in charge like they were when Bush was President or when they brought up impeachment on Clinton.

I suggest Lynn Cheney keep talking because everyone jumps when she says frog.
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ManassasMan
04:26 PM on 05/31/2010
This is nothing more than the same old political horse-trading that has been going on for generations. Get a grip !!
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msbeal
Let no neo-con lie go unchallenged
09:01 PM on 05/30/2010
This non-issue doesn't rise to the level of me reading it much less writing about it.
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oldstuff
Your micro-bio is empty!
03:33 PM on 05/31/2010
+1
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bcmom
Stop breeding puppies
04:12 PM on 05/30/2010
No kidding!
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DingoBuzzy
Word.
12:09 PM on 05/30/2010
It's not illegal to offer somebody a job so that they don't seek out another. You can dislike it all you want, but it's not illegal.
08:20 PM on 05/30/2010
You are correct in that to offer a job so someone doesn't take another - but it is illegal to offer someone a job, or position for a political act (to not run in a primary) so as to "control" the outcome of an elected official. The offer to Sestak - if he accepted - would have removed an option of the people of PA, save lots of money of the DNC, and kept a political ally in the mix for the Obama Administration. This wasn't someone trying to KEEP someone from going to another job, it was to avoid a political challenger from entering a race to control the outcome. THAT IS ILLEGAL.
10:14 PM on 05/30/2010
By your 'logic', since Sestak had not announced that he was going to run when Clinton talked to him, just about any Democrat in Pennsylvania who might have been thinking about running against Specter would have been out of bounds as an appointee to a non-paying presidential board, right? Like the man said, it's silly. It's childishly silly. It's brainlessly silly. But it's very wingnut Republican.
02:15 AM on 05/31/2010
Really? Well then, please elucidate on which federal or state law was broken. Can’t? Didn’t think so....
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Billyguitar
Disgusted by politics since John Anderson lost. In
11:27 AM on 05/30/2010
Hey, if Liz Cheney says it needs to be investigated, then get on with it. Surely her legal expertise is much greater than the guys in the story, right? Oh, it's not? Liz should just shut her bitter pie-hole? Yes Liz, go hide in an undisclosed location until a real scandal shows up. If she did that we wouldn't have to see her again until at least 2017. Wouldn't that be grand!
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Joe The Nerd Ferraro
Group IQ is inversely proportional to group size.
11:16 AM on 05/30/2010
the GOP is walking into a trap by overplaying this.
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barney123
08:37 PM on 05/30/2010
Investigate Dick Cheney in his involvement with big oil and the underhanded deals amd meetings and this spewing by Liz is a deflection of the big oil spill.
10:39 PM on 05/30/2010
That's right. Sestak can come out fighting as an establishment-defying, independent voice. If the Goobers nominate a whackjob as they've done in Kentucky, Sestak can coast to victory.
10:07 AM on 05/30/2010
Obama is just another wheeling, dealing, cheating politician working backroom deals, giving away public offices for Obama's personal political gain.
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mcmutter
A Groover has to expect a few setbacks .....
10:37 AM on 05/30/2010
what personal gain ?
10:43 AM on 05/30/2010
Reread the post, personal POLITICAL gain, not personal gain.
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Birdman
08:03 PM on 05/30/2010
Wow and you say this with a straight face when Cheney, Bush, and co. lied us into a unnecessary war, stacked the judicial department with .. wait for it Bush buddies.... Also Bush stacked many other offices for PERSONAL POLITICAL gain.. take a look at those in Bushes Whitehouse and where they came from ... Oh ya PNAC almost every last one of them including Cheney.. Now who is worse??? Ya thought you would not get it. As the article stated Bush firing all those attorneys was far worse than any stretch of the GOP imagination on this sestack issue.
08:25 PM on 05/30/2010
OK - I guess if Bush did it - that makes it OK for Obama to do it.
"I don't care what the other kids are doing, you shouldn't do it."

Sound familiar.

The other point here is that the President (Bush at the time) has direct supervision over the justices - Clinton fired them all, they serve at "the pleasure of the President".
This action, if indeed happened as the white House lawyer discribed - was an attempt to control the outcome of an election by limiting the choices available to the people of PA. If it isn't legal - it certainly is unethical.
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CountryBeforeParty
We are against misconduct, not against wealth
10:04 AM on 05/30/2010
Republicans doingabsolutely nothing to help the American people. No work towards making people healthier, no help in trying to create jobs, no help in reigning in the corporate aristocracy (since that's who they are).

But man oh man, get your Sunday best on people! Obama was playing politics, so let's try to impeach him!

Imagine if Republicans would spend half the time & energy... wait... one TENTH of the time & energy they spend on hating and undermining Obama, and put it towards working together, serving their communitites, and real problem solving.

Wow... we would be back on top in no time.
02:09 PM on 05/30/2010
The GOP is the party of "NO!"- Why would anyone expect a solution to any current problem from these career goons?

They GOP is and has been way too busy opposing to come up with real solutions.
09:46 AM on 05/30/2010
Let's look at this issue from this standpoint....People can debate the seriousness of the infraction by the Obama admin in offering Sestak a position. However, WWTDD? (what would the democrats do) They would shove this deal down our throat as far they could.....correct?
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oldstuff
Your micro-bio is empty!
03:46 PM on 05/31/2010
um, no. we would see the reality of the situation. we probably wouldn't even blink at the notion of someone completely appropriately offering a job to another person. getting hysterical neurosis over nothing is what republicans do in the hope of gaining traction and political points at the expense of reality.
09:07 AM on 05/30/2010
What a joke. The story is a insult to our intelligence. Transparency to our enemies on our defense secrets but not about their own White House scandals. So much for change. How did HuffPoster's really believe in this guy. Sad.
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Progressive IL
These are not the trolls you're looking for.
05:53 PM on 05/30/2010
Frankly, your party just couldn't offer up anybody of substance.
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Genius
Nothing is more dangerous than sincere ignorance
08:18 AM on 05/30/2010
Isn't it about time to have a really good debate about public financing as opposed to bought and paid for politicians? I am not pointing fingers at anyone. I just think it would be a good opportunity to discuss the issue.
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ginny1920
11:42 AM on 05/30/2010
I second this! I am convinced that publicly financed campaigns are the only way to make a real difference in politics and how our government works. No, it won't solve all problems completely, but it will make the biggest positive difference compared to anything else we can do.
10:42 PM on 05/30/2010
NO! And NO!!!

Public financing is a bad idea. It's a bad idea because there will never be a time when public financing would permit third or fourth or fifth parties to gain any traction at all. It would simply encourage political fraud to continue with a guaranteed source of government controlled cash.

If you want to really reform campaign financing, there is a very simple and very straightforward way to do that which will solve every current problem and be both flexible and democratic.

First, eliminate entirely any and all money given by any and all organizations. No corporate money, whether from profitable or non-profit entities. No union money. No money from a business entity or a 'club'. NONE whatsoever!

Second, limit individual personal contributions to a total of $100 per year from people of voting age. Per year, you could give $1 to 100 different candidates or $100 to one candidate...or any variation in between. Not one penny more. The limit could be adjusted every 5 or 10 years to keep pace with inflation.

Third, no campaign efforts for any elective office whatsoever could be carried out except by the single campaign committee run by the candidate for the office, and that campaign committee would be the sole recipient of all contributions for the candidate.

Easy, simple, clear and sensible...to all but those who want to use their money to control OUR government.
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Auduboner
03:04 AM on 05/30/2010
Here is all you need to know:

"Bunnell, for one, noted the firing of U.S. Attorneys during the Bush years, in which officials were dismissed ostensibly for the purpose of benefiting Republican congressional candidates. Compared to that, he added, the Sestak saga "looks silly."

In addition, Richard Painter, the chief White House ethics officer under George W. Bush, dismissed the "scandal," telling the Plum Line's Greg Sargent that it's time for Republicans to "move on.""
02:11 PM on 05/30/2010
How do you expect them to move on? Foxnews isn't gonna let the story go until they create a few polls convincing us all that the country ovewhelmingly supports impeachment hearings.
08:41 PM on 05/30/2010
So when the US Attorneys were dismissed - the Democrats called for an investigation - but now you are saying when there is a discrepancy concerning an act that at least "borders" on illegal - the Democrats say move on when it is about them? I am not saying anything was done illegal - but the bottom line is - we don't know what happened. Clinton is the bait and switch - this was an attempt to impact the outcome of an election yet to be held. If not illegal, it certainly is unethical.
The intent is what has those in PA concerned.
10:46 PM on 05/30/2010
We also don't know that Bush didn't personally torture and behead hundreds of his personal prostitutes in the White House basement. Many people think there should be a special counsel investigation to determine his guilt in that matter.
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Kamen Gullberg
12:07 AM on 05/30/2010
Richard Painter, the chief White House ethics officer under George W. Bush, dismissed the "scandal," telling it's time for Republicans to "move on."

Enough said.
01:07 AM on 05/30/2010
There are those who will not let this admitted criminal activity go away. Time will prove me correct, and yes I love it. This bunch deserves it. Crooks, liars, and ideologues all.
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Kamen Gullberg
01:55 AM on 05/30/2010
cool,
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Billyguitar
Disgusted by politics since John Anderson lost. In
11:29 AM on 05/30/2010
Admitted criminal activity? Where? Proof?
08:26 PM on 05/29/2010
This is HUGE! Numerous laws have been broken already and now these morons have admitted their guilt. What did the president know and when did he know it? Emmanuel is in big trouble on this one. HA, HA, HA, how about that "Hatch Act"? If the justice department doesn't appoint a special prosecutor the Pennsylvania AG will convene a Grand Jury. Don't kid yourselves folks, this is extremely serious for this administration. And it appears to be part of a pattern of similar illegal political tampering with the election and nomination processes.
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Nonpartay
♫Nonpartisan, liberal, ex-conservative♫
08:40 PM on 05/29/2010
Wrong. This will blow over in a few days, if it hasn't already, and some other phony charge will be launched by the Republicans to try to discredit the president. We're onto you, really. We're not the fools you seem to think we are.
08:47 PM on 05/29/2010
Sorry, but you are the one who is wrong. Perhaps you need to conduct your own independent investigation on this matter so you at least understand the laws involved. Think for yourself, do a little research, and I don't mean talking points.
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barney123
08:43 PM on 05/30/2010
How about some of that Mark Kirk hypocrisy and Glenn Beck making fun of the Obama's daughter and Liz Cheney being pimped out to protect Dick in regard to illegal activities with the oil companys - and I could go on and on and on.
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Sardonica
Gimme the chocolate & no one gets hurt.
10:57 PM on 05/29/2010
Your glee speaks volumes. You totally had an erection while you typed this out, didn't you?
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Kamen Gullberg
12:19 AM on 05/30/2010
He probably got off too, the climax I'll pin point at "this is extremely serious." Lucky he finished his thought, sticky finger's a bi*ch when typing.
08:47 PM on 05/30/2010
Way to "stick" to the point. When you disagree - just belittle the source.
Classic.