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UN Expert: 'Targeted Killings' By U.S., Israel, Russia May Be War Crimes

FRANK JORDANS   06/ 2/10 12:45 PM ET   AP

Targeted Killings War Crimes

GENEVA — Governments must come clean on their methods for killing suspected terrorists and insurgents – especially when using unmanned drones – because they may be committing war crimes, a U.N. human rights expert said Wednesday.

Philip Alston, the independent U.N. investigator on extrajudicial killings, called on countries to lay out the rules and safeguards they use when carrying out so-called targeted killings, publish figures on civilian casualties and prove they have attempted to capture or incapacitate suspects without killing them.

His 29-page report to the U.N. Human Rights Council will put unwanted scrutiny on intelligence operations of the United States, Israel and Russia, who Alston says are all credibly reported to have used drones to kill alleged terrorists and insurgents.

Alston, a New York University law professor, said the use of unmanned aerial vehicles by intelligence agencies such as the CIA to carry out targeted killings in Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere is particularly fraught because of the secrecy surrounding such operations.

"In a situation in which there is no disclosure of who has been killed, for what reason, and whether innocent civilians have died, the legal principle of international accountability is, by definition, comprehensively violated," Alston said.

Although not illegal as such, CIA drone strikes are also more likely to breach the rules of war than similar operations carried out by armed forces, who are more familiar with international law and can resort to non-lethal means because they have troops on the ground, Alston said.

"Unlike a state's armed forces, its intelligence agents do not generally operate within a framework which places appropriate emphasis upon ensuring compliance with international humanitarian law, rendering violations more likely and causing a higher risk of prosecution both for war crimes and for violations of the laws of the state in which any killing occurs," he wrote.

In a March speech, U.S. State Department legal adviser Harold Koh said the administration's procedures for identifying lawful targets were "extremely robust, and advanced technologies have helped to make our targeting even more precise."

The CIA, which refuses to discuss specific activities, claims all of its operations are lawful and subject to government oversight.

A U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of intelligence matters, said lethal drones were an effective and legal means to target members of al-Qaida and the Taliban in far-flung areas where the United States or its allies have no military presence.

The U.S. official cited Pakistan, which officially condemns drone strikes on its territory but is widely believed to share intelligence with Washington for at least some of the attacks, especially those that target Pakistani Taliban militants blamed for numerous attacks in the country.

There was no evidence to prove large numbers of innocent lives have been lost due to drone strikes, the U.S. official said.

This view has been challenged by human rights groups and independent observers, who say remotely operated drones risk ingraining a video game mentality about war and can never be as accurate as eyewitness confirmation of targets from the ground.

"The point is that innocent people have been killed, this has been proved over and over again," said Louise Doswald-Beck, a professor of international law at the Geneva Graduate Institute.

"If you don't have enough personnel on the ground, the chances of your having false information is actually quite huge," she told The Associated Press.

Among the most sensitive recommendations in Alston's report is that governments should disclose "the measures in place to provide prompt, thorough, effective, independent and public investigations of alleged violations of law."

Doing so could threatened counter-terror operations in countries such as Pakistan, said Michael Boyle, a lecturer in strategic studies at the University of St. Andrews, Scotland.

"The drones program is effective in terms of getting terrorist operatives in places where there's limited reach or where, if you were to do it any other way, the political cost or the human cost would be too high," he said.

Alston's report also warns that CIA personnel could be extradited to those countries where the targeted killing takes place and wouldn't have the same immunity from prosecution as regular soldiers.

Alston claims more than 40 countries now have drone technology, with several seeking to equip them with lethal weapons.

Doswald-Beck said the next step could be the development of fully autonomous drones and battlefield robots programed to identify and kill enemy fighters – but without human controllers to ensure targets are legitimate.

"If that's the case you've got a major problem," she said.

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Online:

Alston report: http://bit.ly/TargetKillReport

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Associated Press Writers Nahal Toosi in Islamabad and Matthew Lee in Washington contributed to this report.

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omobob
left coast, usa
12:22 AM on 06/30/2010
IOts expediant and doesn’t involve US casualkities just Afghanis and Pakistanies who have been deprived of life and the persuit of happiness. Truth is US troops couldn’t get neat these targets withoya loy of casualties. At least the Afghans and Pakistanis know they are at the bottom of any considered attack.
01:50 PM on 06/26/2010
If countries insist on extrajudicial killing of those they believe to be guilty of some crime, they should not be outraged when the favor is returned to them. Targeted assasination is not justified under any pretext, It is Murder! Those who practice it are murderers. Those who condone it are accessories to the crime. All should be punished to the full extent of the law.
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messy
artist, writer, adventurer
07:47 AM on 06/18/2010
Right, war must be as difficult and bloody as possible. Only kill privates, make sure that the Generals are nice and safe and there's plenty of collateral damage!!!!
10:16 PM on 06/06/2010
You talk about innocent people, how about the 3K plus that came down in the towers a few years back. What was that, maybe you could call it a mass murder. What about the plane that went down in PA, if it continued on is right course no one knows how many innocent people would have died, same with the pentagon. How about Danny Pearle, had his throat slit by mr Waterboard himself KSM, oh if I remember correctly it happened in Pakistan. Get real people, war is hell, war is dirty, war is shocking and numbing to the sole. Do you seriously think the US wants to be in this position, l am so sick of hearing about America's IMPERIALISTIC nature. You want human rights, check Hugo Chavez, maybe Fidel would be better. In war you use every means available to have the outcome in your favor, if it means use drones so be it. Collateral damage is part of the viciousness of war.
04:33 PM on 06/09/2010
It's not ok to continue to murder innocent people because some crazy radical extremists took matters into their own hands? What does that make us?

Please lets all keep perspective here, this war started from a tiny group of men that flew a plane into a building murdering thousands. We respond with a full scale attack murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent people and continue to do so. We have devastated countries with careless attacks based on false pretenses. There are millions of people effected by this in the middle east that were/are innocent victims. How many atrocities have we been shown on our media of the middle eastern peoples suffering and daily devastation? Please remember, you are seeing a one sided story and cannot fathom the stories on the other side.

We are all thrown into a "pick a side" scenario which we continue to fuel every day. When and how does it all end? The more we continue to respond with violent crimes the more crimes we will face on our end. This war is creating a mentality of hate on both sides.

Please know that I am not trying to attack you or fight you. I would simply like to tell you to please consider that suffering is universal and we all feel it.
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omobob
left coast, usa
12:29 AM on 06/30/2010
4,500 US dead and 35,000 even. a million Iraqis dead. Billions wasted. Are we even yet? the bogus invasion on bad intel and forged documents and the insuing 7 years is not exactly some thing i would point to as a success requardless of the drone program.
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KIVPossum
Moldova Marsupial
04:05 AM on 06/04/2010
May be war crimes???

MAY??

They ARE!!!
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messy
artist, writer, adventurer
07:48 AM on 06/18/2010
ALL wars are crimes...just some are necessary is all.
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KriTiKiT
Says"play nice"
11:34 PM on 06/03/2010
great just great... we are all screwed.
10:25 PM on 06/03/2010
And that's not all. Pick up a copy of George Friedman's The Next 100 Years: A forecast for the 21st century. The future wars planned will have the hair standing up on the back of your neck. Part 1 of many: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIwZsbBXpNQ Friedman is dubbed by Barons's "The Shadow CIA" and his global intelligence company, Statfor, provides analysis on geopolitical policy to new outlets and the US government.
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JPETERB
07:03 PM on 06/03/2010
The head line selected says it all, "MAY BE' war crimes?!? They are premeditated international capital crimes, period. If the rule of law can be said to protect any of us, it must protect all of us.
08:20 PM on 06/03/2010
Fanned.
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messy
artist, writer, adventurer
07:50 AM on 06/18/2010
While we're at it, why don't we indict the entire Marine corps for murder....and the CIA, and MIs 5 &6?
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MikeDu
Both salubrious and lugubrious concurrently.
05:11 PM on 06/03/2010
There was a report the Israeli raid of that boat involved soliders going from cabin to cabin murdering people who were on a list.
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messy
artist, writer, adventurer
07:51 AM on 06/18/2010
There is a report that Israel sent comet Shoemaker Levy to murder the planet Jupiter in 1994, too.
05:02 PM on 06/03/2010
Get real! Every weapon is targeted to some degree and war is dirty no matter what. Some of his concerns have merit but this genie is out of the bottle and not going back in. I do think we place too much dependence on technology and that it could be our undoing someday. If the enemy jams the frequencies we need it's back to the basics that we are presently neglecting. Tough for the primitive taliban to do but not so for the other super powers.
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03:26 PM on 06/03/2010
WHAT IS THIS " MAY BE "

IT IS...PERIOD

When the strong kills the weak from virtue of " Might make it right "
is wrong and moraly BANKRUPT .

CIVILITY IS COMPROMISE.....THE ESSENCE OF CO-LIVING
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messy
artist, writer, adventurer
07:52 AM on 06/18/2010
If the Palestinians believed that Watta, then there'd be no blockade and everyone would be prosperous.
02:54 PM on 06/03/2010
Doswald-Beck said the next step could be the development of fully autonomous drones and battlefield robots programed to identify and kill enemy fighters – but without human controllers to ensure targets are legitimate.

"If that's the case you've got a major problem," she said.

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That is a horrifying thought.
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messy
artist, writer, adventurer
07:53 AM on 06/18/2010
how high up the chain of command do fighters stop being legitimate? Sargent? Captain? I guess generals aren't legitimate, right? If we got Osama would killing him be considered a war crime?
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SilentSolidarity
So what do you need? Besides a miracle.
02:43 PM on 06/03/2010
Finally! This is long overdue.
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hagagaga
You can't take the sky from me.
01:27 PM on 06/03/2010
Dropping nuclear bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima may have been a war crime, but it had much less of a cost in lives on BOTH sides than the alternative. The UAV attacks are like that.
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SilentSolidarity
So what do you need? Besides a miracle.
02:44 PM on 06/03/2010
Who are you to know which attack saved more human lives than the other? The civil casualty rate is 90%. We officially failed.
08:22 PM on 06/03/2010
Maybe not. Quite a few scholars are saying that Japan had surrend3red BEFORE "Little Boy," but wanted to keep their emperor.
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messy
artist, writer, adventurer
07:56 AM on 06/18/2010
Those many scholars were wrong. That was wishful thinking on the anti-war movement in the 1980s. It turns out that most of the high command wanted to keep on fighting after Nagasaki, and the Showa Emperor made the decision on his own.
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artist-53
Wordy opinionated poor spelling Liberal
11:36 AM on 06/03/2010
I would agree that in cases of suspected insurgents, or terrorists, there has to be ample proof that the target in question is indeed a target. But often times it ends being innocent parties. If intelligence shows that a suspected insurgent is in a certain place, then why can't they move in on the ground or use military from the region combined with forces who gathered the intelligence.
If someone is deemed an enemy, what ever happened to attempting to capture and detain and send to trial?

In the cases of unmanned drones, it appears that the jury is already in and the person received the death penalty. How do we know that a given target is the correct target.Are the charges accurate? And in cases where it may be evident that a target is in a position, then why does it always end up that the innocent people are the ones receiving the bullets or rockets.

It also makes it more difficult when you do not engage the enemy except by remote viewing from a place thousands of miles away and is run like a video arcade. Void is the human element until it's noted that more innocent people have been hit by arcade like games from a place that is Countries away. In the world of military war video games, that are so very real, no one scores.
01:49 PM on 06/03/2010
I, too, am concerned about the innocents. We just recently killed Al Qaida's #3 with a drone. The man was never tried and found guilty. He was located in Pakistan, so we invaded a sovereign nation whose people are very unhappy about these incursions. And, not only was the man killed, but much of his family, women and children. Do we ever stop and think about how this looks to the rest of the world? No wonder we are hated!! Do you really think this is keeping us safe? Every one of those attacks produces more people determined to avenge those deaths.
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artist-53
Wordy opinionated poor spelling Liberal
02:12 PM on 06/03/2010
Not much difference with how Israel does business, it it? In the end they always cover themselves with a typical response that goes without question as well. Yet, if any other Country says XY or Z, they are instantly moved to the , "You're not telling the truth " column. It's exactly the same type of mentality. We're right, therefore everyone else is wrong, because we said so.

That's not diplomacy. And certainly not a good way to run things. But if a Country is looking to continue the war, well, they've found a way to do it. By ignoring realities as more and more people come to the aid of their own Countries.Which we then refer to as terrorism. It's a viscous circle, that is self perpetuating at this point.

Diplomacy not drones.
08:24 PM on 06/03/2010
Actually, we killed about a dozen alleged #2s during the Shrub's reign. too.

I don't know if these guy are real, were hired by Central Casting, or are innocents. Also, whether about a dozen guys are in each numeric position! :-s