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Some Arabs See Wisdom In Burqa Bans

First Posted: 06/03/10 11:35 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:40 PM ET

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Tom A. Peter, GlobalPost

AMMAN, Jordan -- As European country after European country banned Muslims from wearing the burqa, niqab or other Islamic clothing that covers a woman's face completely, several Arab nations stood quietly by.

Few, if any, Arabs support such bans and the prohibitions raise questions among them about anti-Muslim sentiment in the West. However, many people in Jordan can at least understand where European countries are coming from, especially regarding security concerns.

In most cases, European politicians in support of banning complete facial covering avoided making religious arguments, instead arguing that clothing of any kind that hid a person's face constituted a security threat.

"It's understandable why some countries are not too happy with the niqab because it does not reveal the true identity of a person, the face of a person. Now whether this should be introduced as a law or not, I'm not sure," said Moneef Zou'bi, director general of the Islamic World Academy of Science in Amman. "I think it's a matter of choice at the end of the day."

In France, the most recent country to ban the niqab and burqa, Jean-François Cope, the majority leader of the French National Assembly, went so far as to compare the niqab to a ski mask in an editorial piece published in The New York Times in which he defended the law.

"The visibility of the face in the public sphere has always been a public safety requirement. It was so obvious that until now it did not need to be enshrined in law," he wrote. "But the increase in women wearing the niqab, like that of the ski mask favored by criminals, changes that. We must therefore adjust our law, without waiting for the phenomenon to spread."

Though accepted by most Arabs, the niqab and burqa are still relatively uncommon outside the Arabian Gulf. Most Arab women tend to view such coverings as too extreme or unnecessary.

In Jordan, where only a handful of women wear such clothing, police have noted a sharp increase in the amount of crime committed by people, sometimes even men, wearing the niqab as a disguise. The number of criminals apprehended while wearing such Islamic dress climbed from a combined total of 170 in 2007 and 2008 to 104 in 2009 alone, according to police officials. Though there were a few cases of homicide, most of the incidents involved theft or other petty crimes.

Still few Jordanians are ready to jump to the conclusions of right-wing European politicians or take legal action against the facial covering.

"Most of the people are not concerned about it. In general we accept that sector of our society. It is not a masking behavior to cover your face," said Hani Hourani, the founder and director of Al-Urdun Al-Jadid Research Center in Amman. "We have a lot more important things to worry about in this part of the world than women's code of dress."

Aside from France, Belgium banned facial coverings last month. In Germany, Italy, Switzerland and the Netherlands, there are also laws regulating full facial covering at the local level or right-wing politicians who strongly advocate for it.

Referencing the 1966 film about the French fighting the Algerian insurgency in which veiled women are used to smuggle weapons, Jennifer Heath said: "This is like someone has figured out that we can get rid of the niqab by sort of pretending it's going to be the Battle of Algiers again. I find it a little sensationalist." Heath edited "The Veil: Women Writers On Its History, Lore, And Politics," a collection of essays about veiling.

Still, during the peak of the insurgency in Iraq, the niqab became a serious issue. Many women were not thoroughly searched at checkpoints, so militants began recruiting them for suicide bombings or to smuggle weapons under their clothes. Authorities in turn began creating female police officers and a community policing organization called the Daughters of Iraq was also created to search women at checkpoints.

Most Jordanians agree that female police and normal security measures are enough to stop the niqab from becoming a serious security issue here and elsewhere in the region.

"We need a combination of freedom of religion, freedom of expression, personal freedoms on one hand and [on the other] the necessary measures for security and the normal appearance of a person in society," said Asma Khader, general coordinator for the Sister is Global Institute in Jordan.

She added that measures designed to limit the wearing of the niqab or other forms of dress would most likely result in more people wearing them as a form of protest, as they might start to feel that their beliefs were under attack.

"It will be a symbolic political use, rather than being a personal choice or a personal religious belief. It should not be this way," she said.

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Faiza Waseem
08:56 AM on 06/05/2010
Why Pakistan is a direct threat to American safety http://bit.ly/a8yNOo
11:30 PM on 06/04/2010
It is sad that the Arab civilization has deteriorated into a fundamentalist misogynistic disaster. Between their obsession with oppressing women, and their obsession with destroying Israel, I don't see any opportunity for progress.
10:26 PM on 06/04/2010
A burqua makes a woman a shadow...it makes her invisible....inconsequential...a ghost of no substance, ...unfit to be seen.....and less than a man. A burqua puts her in her place.
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MaeBayB
04:02 AM on 06/05/2010
This is especially evident when a woman adorned in a burqua is with a man who is appropriately dressed in a cotton shirt/pants and sandals....without anything over his head/face
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Marc Thibault
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10:29 AM on 06/04/2010
A French secular perspective:
The issue on veiling in France is a dual issue. it is an issue about our (France) attachment to Republican values, the ones that cost us three bloody revolutions, but also offered a heaven for persecuted migrants from Russia to China, and From Chile to Iran to come to our country and be treated as equal by the Republic. The other issue is about our Republican system that, since 1901 has made a clear separation between state and church. Religious values or symbols have no place in public life. Do you know why it should remain so? So a Muslim girl that wants to dress like any other French girl will live old enough to have children, so the next "issue" we are confronted with is not polygamy or the will by a city to impose Shariah, so girls are not burnt and disfigured and killed. Yes, Muslim girls are burnt and disfigured and killed not just in Afghanistan or the Emirates, but in France, Germany and here, in the US, for dressing like a girl, being too smart, too emancipated.
To us, French, this separation has worked pretty well until the 80's and the first radicals, and became a social issue 10 years ago. It is much more a reaction to a system that has failed to integrate fully the largest Muslim population in Europe than a set of beliefs that should be respected by the host country on the name of freedom.
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12:04 PM on 06/04/2010
"Yes, Muslim girls are burnt and disfigured and killed not just in Afghanistan or the Emirates, but in France, Germany and here, in the US, for dressing like a girl, being too smart, too emancipated."

The Americans are not listening. They just stick their finger in their ears and chant the multicultural mantra of 'respecting choices'. Admitting the compulsion from physical assaults to metaphysical threats of damnation ruins their entire position.

Notice that men who consider themselves social liberals are some of the most 'tolerant', since they neither have nor ever will face such discrimination and restriction of life choices that the Abrahamic religions impose on women.
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AntigoneRisen
08:08 PM on 06/04/2010
I'm American and I admit the coercion. Please do not stereotype so much. I do not tolerate intolerance or oppression.
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john649
04:10 AM on 06/05/2010
yes, beautifully put. Because american values teach 'freedom as a right' we find that those americans without the historical knowledge or first hand experience of oppression blindly chant 'let them choose' not realizing they are damning a women's choice by the mere insistence that wearing a burqa is a choice which means that not wearing one would be a choice as well. But as your post so rightly implies this 'choice' of not wearing a burqa brings violence and even death to those who do not 'choose' the right practice.
01:54 AM on 06/04/2010
As a Muslim, I honestly have no problem in it being banned. The problem is that many women who wear the burka think they get closer to god when they cover their faces. It's sad but nothing in the quran talks about that and it was never part of religion till the 14th century during the Ottoman empire. Many muslim countries such as Tunesia banned covering hair and I don't see why muslims should protest it when it gets banned in Europe.
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KIVPossum
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04:23 AM on 06/04/2010
I've been to Tunisia several times and many women cover their hair. When did this ban go into effect?
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Jennifer Hagan
Expat Mother of two living in France.
05:55 AM on 06/14/2010
I'm wondering that too. Women can cover their heads in Tunisia. Where did that come from?
11:50 PM on 06/03/2010
Islam is a mind control cult, burqa is just another tool they have.
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seereene1
More genius in a cracked pot than a whole one.
09:07 PM on 06/03/2010
My heart always sinks in sadness when I see pictures of women draped in black clothe. They always remind me of grim reapers. Immigration and cultural issues aside...They just scream death of the soul and spirit.
08:58 PM on 06/03/2010
The reason why Muslim countries are being silent is because the burqa is heavily disputed amongst the Islamic communities.
08:16 PM on 06/03/2010
the burka makes women the property of their man, because say if the woman's man treats her like dung, she can't seek other guys because under the burka, they cannot see her, and can only see them under a garbage bag. Just as genital mutilation makes them only good for making babies, for the same reason
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seereene1
More genius in a cracked pot than a whole one.
09:09 PM on 06/03/2010
You know, I've heard young women in Islamic countries say that even covered head to toe - if they are out in public without a man present - men will come on to them and make lewd comments. It doesn't matter what they're wearing. Their disrespect of women is omnipresent.
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Zanubiyah
07:02 PM on 06/03/2010
Please note how the women agree though...(with the burkah ban)

They agree because people in Europe like to see people's faces. It is a part of the way most people in the world communicate. I can agree with this. I can also understand the concerns about security, even in majority Muslim nations why 'covering one's face' might be banned.

What I disagree with is people using these kinds of issues, calling it 'standing for the rights of women' but hiding thier distain for Islam, immigration, and diversty within the conversation.

It is hard enough for people who speak up for the universal rights of women, against abuse of women as it is without these haters complicating the matter further.

I say...trust women...tell the women your concerns about seeing thier faces, and explain to them the security issues without the stereotypes and hate. I am sure that the women who choose the burkah will understand, and lift thier viels when appropriate.
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SilentSolidarity
So what do you need? Besides a miracle.
08:13 PM on 06/03/2010
Exactly! Msot Americans simply cannot understand the real intentions behind this law. It's about making Muslim Europeans not feel home. Nothing else.

And once the government takes the first step to dictacte what people can believe they will move on: a Minaret ban like in Switzerlands, no proselytizing like in the Middle East, no headscarves like in Tunisia, no children in religious organizations until the age of 18 like in Communist countries.
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08:25 PM on 06/03/2010
Very wrong. Though its wrong to pass bans like this in terms of legislation, they are correct in principle and morality. I just believe that governments have no right to legislate morality.
I do not say that because I disdain Islam, but because I don't believe women should cover their faces when unnecessary. It is not essential to their religious practice and only shows a hypocritcal view of interpreting religious doctrine because men are not impelled to wear the same thing, though the verse that this "law" is derived from does not mention gender. If women choose to wear it, they have the right to, but they will forever be out of their element in the Western world for doing so.
Muslim Europeans should be making an effort to be more European, otherwise, what are they doing there besides imposing? You can keep your religion and culture, but you can not change the place that you're relatively new to. Assimilation is the solution.
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10:26 PM on 06/03/2010
"no children in religious organizations until the age of 18 like in Communist countries."

I would have no problem with that whatsoever.

Secular, free societies have no obligation to permit every expression of religious faith. People with your whinny attitude are what make fighting even extreme acts like female genital mutilation difficult.
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10:33 PM on 06/03/2010
I do have have disdain for Islam and the Abrahamic religions in general. I never disguise that.

I also have disdain for "diversity" of opinion on whether women should have social and legal equality, whether homosexuality should be legal, whether the feelings of trangendered peopel should be respected, whether children should be able to keep their natural body (anti-circumcision), whether apostates should be murdered, etc.

People babble about how wonderful diversity is, but do we really want diverse opinions on human rights and criminal behaviour?
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Zanubiyah
01:10 AM on 06/04/2010
Well...I am sorry,

but the world is changing as we speak.

I dont do 'anti religion' rhetoric. I want people to be who they are, as long as they dont impose themselves on me.
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omobob
left coast, usa
06:57 PM on 06/03/2010
In France the banning of the burga is the result of Sarkosy and the anti-immigrationists that brought him to power using the will of the majority to deny freedom of a tiny minority of French citizens ( yes, citizens not tourists) to wear traditional clothing. These women have committed no crimes and yet are persecuted for what they wear. The law is punitive, discriminatory and intolerant. Sarkosy has painted a target of suspicion and hate on the backs of these innocent women. A shameful piece of legislature that does nothing to elevate concern but rather seeks to play into the hands xenophobic agenda of bigotry and persecution.
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10:24 PM on 06/03/2010
It is so easy for men who will never be affected by the plethora of sexual double standards women face to make excuses for sexist traditions. I guess for people like you protecting cultural and religious traditions trumps promoting equality for women in society.
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omobob
left coast, usa
10:45 PM on 06/03/2010
You are correct when you say "you guess". I assume the rest is rhetorical, Oui?
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UKVisitor
03:54 AM on 06/04/2010
Loutreverte,
Omobob has not defended the Burkha, so you are tilting at windmills there.
What he said was that this law is motivated by a desire to slam immigrants and their children, not to improve the lot of women.

From what I know of Omobob he's likely very hostile to enforcing the burkha, but more hostile to the implications of it's being outlawed, in Europe, may be less so in the Middle East. Which is a different situation. Is this too subtle for you?
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10:28 PM on 06/03/2010
"These women have committed no crimes and yet are persecuted for what they wear. "

What about a woman in a Nazi uniform who holds extremist views but has committed no crime. Is she deserved of equal protection Bobby or are you a typical 'tolerant' hypocrite who gives religion a special privilege?
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omobob
left coast, usa
11:31 PM on 06/03/2010
Love to play "what if". I once was asked by my draft board "what if the commies were raping your grandmother in the ally". True story. 1971. Salinas, California.

As to your inquiry: Im a US citizen. Im prepared to take anything the Us Constitution can throw at me, including the right to free speech_ yes even Nazis with extremist views. I believe that civil liberties should be pressed as far as the US Supreme Court will allow.

Oh, BTW: yes you are guessing again when inquire as to my "tolerant" hypocrite status_
typical or atypical. But then I suppose it all depends on from what horse you are speaking, OUi?
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06:36 PM on 06/03/2010
The burqa should not be legally banned, but those who choose to wear the Niqab should go back to where they came from and willingly. Someone who wears such a horrendous thing has no place in the civilized world.
Some religious practices are just plain ridiculous and represent a devolution in human progress and initiative. The niqab is one of those practices. Nowhere is the Koran does it say women have to wear the burqa, let alone the niqab. There is nothing to hide and reason to do so.
I feel the same way about the demented practices of Hasidic Jews who won't allow themselves to even touch women or the sexual repression of Catholic priests. There is tolerance and there is fanaticism.
06:31 PM on 06/03/2010
Barbarians.
06:24 PM on 06/03/2010
"It's understandable why some countries are not too happy with the niqab because it does not reveal the true identity of a person, the face of a person."

We can see the rub right here -- in Islamic countries, women are not regarded as people, but property.
06:11 PM on 06/03/2010
Dear Tom A. Peter, GlobalPost, it's the Persian Gulf.

Persia is the ancient name for Iran and Persian Gulf is the most widely accepted reference for the body of water in question — and has been since the fifth century B.C. by when it was given that name by Greek geographers.

It's the Persian Gulf, according to the State Department's Board of Geographical Names.

http://www.minnpost.com/globalpost/2010/03/16/16666/its_known_as_the_persian_gulf_and_the_arabian_gulf_--_but_careful_which_you_use

You knew this when you wrote your article so you must have expected some to disagree with you. You could have at least just called it The Gulf to attempt to appear impartial.