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Summers Hears From Unions On Wall Street Reform

First Posted: 06/03/10 11:21 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:40 PM ET

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The White House is confident that a strong Wall Street reform package will emerge from conference committee negotiations between the House and Senate, senior administration officials told unions and consumer groups at a high-level meeting in the Old Executive Office Building Wednesday.

Senior economic adviser Larry Summers; his deputy, Diana Farrell; and Eric Stein, Treasury's deputy secretary for consumer protection, met with the AFL-CIO, SEIU, consumer groups and other progressive organizations to update them on the status of negotiations and hear out remaining concerns.

"The discussion was centered on our mutual commitment to key priorities for financial reform as the legislation enters its next phase. They discussed a number of issues including ensuring a strong and independent consumer financial protection agency, reforms for credit ratings agencies, comprehensive derivatives reform that brings all derivatives transactions out of the shadows, appropriate regulation for hedge funds and private equity, the Volcker Rule and ending the perception that any firm is too big to fail," said a White House official.

An amendment to tighten the Volcker Rule, which would be necessary (though likely not sufficient) to end the perception of TBTF, was denied a vote on the Senate floor and is not included in either the House or Senate legislation, though its backers continue to push for strengthening the provision in conference.

In order to speak candidly and avoid losing access to future meetings, attendees requested anonymity from HuffPost Hill, which reported on the gathering Tuesday night.

There were few surprises, attendees said, with Summers and the groups mostly in accord. The one divergence came over Minnesota Democratic Al Franken's rating agency amendment, which would end the practice of banks choosing their own rating agencies and instead assign them by lottery, removing a colossal conflict of interest. Summers told the groups that he has yet to be persuaded that Franken's approach is the proper one but he is willing to be convinced. He asked Public Citizen's David Arkush and Demos's Heather McGhee, representatives of two of the most vocal supporters of the amendment, which is part of the Senate package, for more information.

Summers said that the White House is still pushing hard for a strong consumer financial protection regulator and agreed with the groups that it should have independent funding and rulemaking authority and that it should not preempt stronger state laws. Representatives of organized labor pressed Summers to make sure that conferees close the bill's loophole that allows private equity and venture capital firms out of the title requiring hedge funds to register with the SEC. The union folks said that they are also delivering the same message from AARP, which couldn't attend the meeting.

In the House version of the legislation, auto dealers are exempted from consumer protection authority. The Senate bill is silent on the issue, meaning that auto dealers are covered, but the Senate approved a "motion to instruct" conferees to adopt the House rules. Last week, Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D-Pa.), a conferee, said that he thought that meant the House carve-out would survive. But the White House officials and groups represented agreed that the Senate motion was non-binding and that no compromise should be made with the car salesmen.

One other slight issue of contention was an amendment from Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.) that never came up for a vote in the Senate. Cantwell's amendment would work to close a gaping loophole. In the Senate's current language, all derivatives must be centrally cleared and backed by collateral -- but, if they're not, there's no penalty and the trade is still valid, effectively making the law little more than a mild suggestion. Cantwell's amendment would put teeth in it and make any such trade invalid. Summers said he was concerned that invalidating trades could have dramatic market repercussions. The groups pressed him from a political angle, arguing that it was in the bill's best interest to win over Cantwell, given that the option would be to further weaken the legislation in order to pick up an extra Republican.

The administration's top derivatives regulator has endorsed Cantwell's amendment.

The full list of groups represented: AFL-CIO, SEIU, Americans for Financial Reform, AFSCME, Center for Responsible Lending, Consumer Federation of America, DEMOS, Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, National Association of Consumer Advocates, National Consumer Law Center, National Council of La Raza, Public Citizen and US PIRG.

Arthur Delaney contributed reporting

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tjinc
12:11 PM on 06/08/2010
If that photo was taken during the session, he isn't really listening. Check out the body language before reading the article.
02:40 AM on 06/07/2010
Would someone tell me why and how Summers has gotten the ear of the President? How has such a backward thinking man gotten into such a position of influence. It's Orwellian.
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sposton
right to tell what they don't want to hear
10:23 PM on 06/05/2010
We will never have any real financial reforms. Summers, Geithner and other embedded Wall Street agents will make sure of that. Add to that a bought out Congress and an army of lobbyists making sure that they stay bought. Where is the drive for real reform going to come from?
07:48 AM on 06/06/2010
Good one Sposton

It took a pretty spectacular series of shocks to get the notoriusly-slow-on-the-uptake electorate here in "the wealthiest nation on earth" to come home from the mall..... and wake up to the fact that corporate pirates had made off with the lion's share of that wealth....and that they meant to keep what they had stolen fair and square......by buying up every politician they could.... and rigging the financial system more thoroghly than any Vegas Casino had ever dared!

NOW the big push for reform would surely come.......

Well, we know what that looks like........as folks in tinfoil-lined three cornered hats are bashing immigrants, unions and all the other usual suspects (and eachother) with giant teabags in an effort to address the most critical challenges facing our country......

These include (but are not limited to) outing the President as the secret muslim terrorist he is....revisiting the civil rights act of '64-5......protecting cherished Constitutional protections (like the right to pack an Uzi to church).......and beating back the dark forces of.....um....of.....well, you know... all the socialism and stuff.

"And there WAS lunacy.....and Goldman saw that it was GOOD"

The corporate pirates are laughing at us...and they're not even bothering to do so behind their hands anymore.

It's actually NOT true that the rest of the world hates... us but now they know for sure:

We're stone crazy.

Regards
TM
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sposton
right to tell what they don't want to hear
11:24 AM on 06/06/2010
Well put.
07:58 AM on 06/06/2010
It's all a game, says William Engdahl in 'The Gods of Money' . Not sure if you've seen this interview on TRN(2 parts):
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRealNews#p/u/10/I77UwYM-884

and
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheRealNews#p/u/8/_MmSRx8s99w
11:28 AM on 06/06/2010
Thanx for the link "mamababa".....not only is the interview excellent...but there are a number of interesting pieces on the site......so double thanx


I haven't had much luck posting links....here's an experiment in that regard


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/03/summers-hears-from-unions_n_598942.html?show_comment_id=49587511#comment_49587511

TM
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sposton
right to tell what they don't want to hear
11:30 AM on 06/06/2010
Thanks for the links. I haven't seen this interview.
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Jannsmoor
06:05 PM on 06/05/2010
I absolutely do not trust Summers. He was a MAJOR force in deregulating Wall Street and forcefully fought to STOP regulation of derivatives when Brooksley Born tried to do it.
He is absolutely the wrong person to end Too Big To Fail. He simply is unable to even imagine a world where Wall Street doesn't suck 40% of all corporate profits out of America.
04:15 PM on 06/05/2010
Soon, it won't matter. The full impact of this financial storm as not even hit yet.
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04:05 PM on 06/05/2010
There isn't anything they can do to this bunch of crooks that they absolutely don't deserve. Break them up, tax them, bring back Glass-Steagal, cut off their hands.
08:41 AM on 06/05/2010
Why are the unions dictating financial policy ?

Massive FAIL
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Jannsmoor
06:03 PM on 06/05/2010
Oddly, the unions, comprised of working people, represent working people. Go figure. And why should working people have a say in Wall Street reform? Are you suggesting only Wall Street should have a say?
10:27 AM on 06/06/2010
Goldman Sachs and Citigroup actually take thier secret orders to destroy the middle class from the unions....because.....um.....well,.... all the socialism and stuff
TM
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tjinc
12:16 PM on 06/08/2010
The unions are NOT dictating financial policy, they're among the advocates for "main street", where most of their members, and most of the American population lives.

Do you like how corporations are dictating our financial and environmental policies so far?
serena1313
Condemnation w/o investigation is hgt of ignorance
02:36 AM on 06/05/2010
First, Iam relieved that Summers is willing to keep an open mind. That is a positive step. But Iam puzzled by his hesitation wrt the ratings companies: does he object to Franken's "approach" or perhaps there is a better approach other than the lottery, or some other reason?

I cannot help but wonder if the rating agencies had downgraded Lehman Brothers credit ratings -- as they should have, but didn't -- would Bear Stearns, Wachovia, Washington Mutual have survived? Given that our economy is built on confidence it is essential to fix this so this doesn't happen again. So whichever approach works, Iam all for it.

Iam encouraged, too, that Summers supports a strong & independent consumer financial protection agency.

Until I know more about the agency, how it functions and what does end-up in the final bill, it would be premature to draw a conclusion one-way-or-the-other.
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masher
software engineer
04:19 PM on 06/04/2010
The key part of Obama's reform is that the rules will be decided later, which means they will be written by lobbyist after the cameras leave. So Obama will get to campaign how great he is for getting it done and nobody will bother to check if the casino is really closed.

It's just like all the other fake Obama reforms. Change fail.
10:42 AM on 06/04/2010
These Corporate whores are not going to fix TO BIG TO FAIL. It will take a massive revolt by the American people to end the strangle hold that big corps have on congress. All Senators must go and most Reps. Just an observation from watching the same ol same ol for forty plus years.
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guveqzero
Inventor and Innovator
09:39 AM on 06/04/2010
If you want to turn something simple into something unrecognizable, give it to Congress. What does consumer protection have to do with TBTF? It's called politics, which is not supposed to be a dirty word. Essentially, our political process is used to get favors; when enough people are happy, we get a bill.
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massjim
Dem? Repub? Is there a difference?
09:26 AM on 06/04/2010
Summers has always been more a part of the problem than solution.
10:31 AM on 06/06/2010
Are you suggesting we've been "set up" jim?
TM
schatsie
Wall Street is Worse than Vegas
07:56 AM on 06/04/2010
ending the perception that any firm is too big to fail," said a White House official. WHAT THE F....this sounds exactly like something that Bush would say.....I mean really.....what does this mean? So far, it means NOTHING and we are tired, extremely tired of the SMOKE AND MIRRORS.....If the Dems want to keep the Senate and the House, they can start breaking up the banks BEFORE THE ELECTION and letting them fail.....

Otherwise Rand Paul and his people will bring back the Repugs in force.....This is crucial because of BP and our mentality that GREED IS GOOD, we need to either SOCIALIZE THE PROFITS since we have already SOCIALIZED THE RISK or we need to privatize both the risk and the profits.by breaking them up and LETTING THEM FAIL....
07:13 AM on 06/04/2010
Fianace should serve industry, not industry finance.
That should be Summers' guidng criterion.
schatsie
Wall Street is Worse than Vegas
07:56 AM on 06/04/2010
Industry, what industry?
11:08 AM on 06/06/2010
Nice one Andy........We've had the cart before the horse for so long now people have forgotten such simple truths....and the corporate pirates have been only to happy to add to the darkness and the fog (much easier to pick pockets)

Sooner or later.....one must manufacture a widget and sell it to someone who wants to purchase one.

Not a picture of a widget......not even a "bundle" of such pictures insured by another theoretical.
And not an imaginary "customer" designed to get others to invest in the "widget picture" business


The Chineese .....being less hip, slick, and savy than the Wall St. whiz kids.....(and with quintuple the population to feed, house, heat, cool, and transport) have not forgotten this.....and are not only cleaning our clock in cheap consumer goods....but are actively engaged in developing the hot products of the future (something we USED to do well)

Unlike us....the Chineese have no illusions (DE-lusions?) of suceeding based on what "used to be".....and no fear of being thought "protectionist" or of "big government"......That the central government should "protect" their economy, their currency, and their populace.... seems simple common sense to them and is just one more core truth we seem to have forgotten.

"Focusing on what we do well" does not mean we can sustain ourselves delivering the world's finest pizzas to one another...................
And emitting "hot air" and platitudes is no strategy for energy independence

Regards
TM
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06:56 AM on 06/04/2010
This is a pro forma propaganda push for reform of finance. The only reform will be a publicity blitz right before the election while touted reforms preserves the freedon of unhinged finance.
Obama is deluding only himself by thinkig he can delude an incredulous, dispairing and distrustful electorate.