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James Clyburn On Alvin Greene Mess In South Carolina: 'Elephant Dung All Over The Place'

First Posted: 06/13/10 11:33 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:45 PM ET

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Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) has been on the forefront of suggesting that the out-of-nowhere election of Alvin Greene in the South Carolina Democratic Senaye primary was the result of some seedy political shenanigans.

On Sunday, the congressman took his charges to a more colorful level, proclaiming that there was "elephant dung all over the place" when it came to Greene's election.

"[I]t turned up after the elections, we found out, as I said earlier, something untoward was going on," Clyburn told CNN's State of the Union. "Now all of a sudden, we see that Congressman Joe Wilson's campaign manager was, in fact, managing the campaign of my primary opponent. I saw the patterns in this. I know a Democratic pattern, I know a Republican pattern, and I saw in the Democratic primary, elephant dung all over the place. So I knew something was wrong in that primary. And this result tells us that. People intentionally circumvented the law, the rules and regulations, did not file any disclosures, did not file any of their campaign finances, yet they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars running this campaign and broke every law."

Clyburn was asked earlier whether he could see himself supporting Greene's candidacy, to which he said "no."

"No, I don't see myself getting behind Mr. Greene. The fact of the matter is, of course, I never said he was a Republican plant. I said he was someone's plant," said Clyburn.

Greene, as a refresher, had a truly remarkable primary victory on Tuesday evening. Despite having limited means, he managed to pay the $10,400 fee to get his name on the ballot. He didn't campaign seemingly anywhere and yet managed to garner enough votes for the nomination. Since then it has been discovered that he had been arrested in November and charged with showing obscene Internet photos. He has, nevertheless, pledged to continue with his all-but-impossible effort to unseat incumbent Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.).

UPDATE: Appearing on Meet The Press, White House Senior Adviser David Axelrod was asked whether he thought Greene was a legitimate candidate. He replied:

It doesn't appear so to me. It was a mysterious deal. He didn't campaign... the whole thing is odd and I don't know really how to explain it and I don't think anybody else does either...

I think the Democrats of South Carolina deserve a strong credible candidate. And he would argue, I suppose, that he won the primaries so that would be him. How he won the primary is a big mystery though and until you resolve that I don't think he can claim to be a strong credible candidate.


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Mark Trail
04:05 AM on 06/16/2010
I am disgusted by the way the Democrat party is treating Alvin Greene the Democrat nominee for Senate!

FACT: Alvin Greene is BLACK so by Democrat standards he should be immune from criticism, but they are doing nothing less than politically LYNCHING Alvin Greene!

FACT: Many BLACK voters, voted FOR Alvin Greene and they now want to toss out the election results and disenfranchise those BLACK VOTES!

FACT: Alvin Greene is a Democrat who served in the Military and using the John Kerry model, he should be immune from criticism as well, but the Democrats are "Swift Boating" Alvin Greene!

FACT: They say he has been accused of a crime, but there are plenty of WHITE Democrat Senators and Congressmen who have been accused of crimes and the Democrats stand by them!

FACT: They say he doesn't seem very smart, but Joe Biden is a complete idiot and they didn't have any problem making him the Vice President because he is WHITE!

The only reason they are going after Alvin Greene is because he is a BLACK VETERAN! Bunch of anti-military racists make me sick!

Where are those Uncle Tom's Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton? This BLACK MAN is being LYNCHED by the Democrat Party and they are sitting on their hands!
09:15 AM on 06/15/2010
Clyburn, who has never been accused of being brilliant, is completely wrong here. His accusation implies the Republican Party is actually clever enough to do something like that. I wish they were that smart but they are not.
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ennis438
07:29 AM on 06/15/2010
"Joe Wilson." Now I understand the source of corruption.
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sarabono
Oldie but Goody
11:10 PM on 06/14/2010
A non Politician who is Black, is probably better in Congress than a well worn Old White Politician.

A perfect example of "Throw the Bum's Out"
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Yikes11
Elbows off the Table
04:31 PM on 06/14/2010
South Carolina, need I say more?
03:49 PM on 06/14/2010
This is the Balloon Boy all over again. I put a thousand dollars down to all betters this was a con job! Anyone in these here United States want to put their money where their mouth is? You get a thousand dollars if the Balloon Boy of South Carolina is telling the truth as testified by the Judge. Any takers for my $1000.00 bet?
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Dangerous Dan
Because I can!
02:59 PM on 06/14/2010
Maybe the Dem voters should have written the Party's choice on their hand.
Too simple, too low tech, wouldn't work,
Illiteracy at all time high in SC.
Generational welfare Dems sucking at the Government teat.
Greene WAS their choice.
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Dangerous Dan
Because I can!
03:29 PM on 06/14/2010
They could have used their latest technology smart phones.
Those they all have.
04:28 PM on 06/14/2010
sad dan pretty sad.
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admiralj
I support the Stewart/Colbert ticket in '14
07:10 PM on 06/14/2010
Dan, it sounds like you have iPhone envy. Go to your local Wal-Mart, they are only $100. now, surly you can spring for that?
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Fattonecat
whoops !!
06:07 PM on 06/14/2010
Wow Dan, pretty thin veil there.
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T4
Entreprenuer and financial consultant
02:54 PM on 06/14/2010
are we missing somehing - dem voters in SC voted for the guy - so he's the candidate - if they cared they would have voted for somebody else.
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Dangerous Dan
Because I can!
02:56 PM on 06/14/2010
It's like pro-choice;only if it is 'the right' choice.
03:03 PM on 06/14/2010
Yes, you are missing something. In SC, Republicans are allowed to vote in the democratic primary. Obviously, this is some sort of setup. Doesnt matter though, no way a Dem is going to win that seat anyway.
02:49 PM on 06/14/2010
Elephant dung. Clyburn has no proof and yet he sling foul language. He is classless.
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Dangerous Dan
Because I can!
02:53 PM on 06/14/2010
Clyburn wouldn't know the difference between Basil Pesto and elpahant dung.
Taste, Mr. Clyburn, taste.
03:24 PM on 06/14/2010
Clyburn knows SC BS (elephant dung) when see smells it. He has lived with those "GOOD OLD boys" all his life. Old tricks new dogs.
02:17 PM on 06/14/2010
Being a 5th generation family from South Carolina I honestly think we should secede (again) as well as Texas, Arizona and whom ever else is tired of seeing thier monies supporting other people while their familes do without!
Maybe this time the slander of "slavery" wont be thrust upon S.C. for the reason of Secession as before. And for you racist, answer this, April 12th, 1861 S. C. fires the shot of secession. (not slavery)
While the Emancipation Proclamation (to free slaves in the north and south) was signed on January 1, 1863. That is 1 year, 8 months AFTER South Carolina was accused of "slavery".
The only reason Lincoln done it then is because Lee and Jackson were in Maryland, Pennsylvania and Virgina (surrounding DC).
Not to mention Lincoln RAISED troops to march on the south (he invaded his own country) Put it together people, the north landed in Jamestown, fought and killed natives took several years to progress, the south settled Charles Town (Charleston) created commerce with natives and progressed as fast in 20 years as the north did almost 80 years earlier. (see a pattern)
Once the south decided they were not going to be oppressed anymore and fought back then the slaves were free, only for the blacks to be oppressed for the next 100 years (still see the pattern) Remember, other men dont make us men, we make ourselves it is what we do and how we carry ourselves, not the bums in political positions.
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calindi
02:20 PM on 06/14/2010
Fine by me.
We'll just have to build a real high fence on that border.
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OLJW00
right is right
02:37 PM on 06/14/2010
Interesting - you are willing to build a fence on state borders. Are you willing to do EXACTLY that on our national borders????
nia122
"Truth crushed to the earth will rise again."
02:41 PM on 06/14/2010
What gibberish. Nevertheless, the union would be well rid of you, since you are one of the poorest states in the country. Bye Bye! Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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actionspeaks
I am a visionary-humanitarian
02:13 PM on 06/14/2010
Southern (ignorant) people of color have fallen into the political camps of the plantation "masters"(Haters) for many decades to be the stand-ins(oppressor-agents). It's sad, yet true, that oppressor-agents as well as oppressors living and yet enslaving minds to do politics for a few dollars. The $ they earn from being the fall guys help to minimize the agents' financial situation but destroys their true humanity...Television reveals Mr. Green served as one of the oppressor-agents, still being "bought-off".
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Dangerous Dan
Because I can!
02:45 PM on 06/14/2010
A Democrat by any other name.
Clyburn, on the porch.
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Fattonecat
whoops !!
06:12 PM on 06/14/2010
Hope your child is proud
02:03 PM on 06/14/2010
Rep. Clyburn's statement has been misrepresented all day. On MSNBC, a lead-in said, "James Clyburn compares Alvin Grenne to elephant dung." This is NOT what Rep. Clyburn said. He referred to SC politics being sprinkled with elephant dung, while he was in the process of talking about Joe Wilson's 'You lie!" campaign manager financing the democratic primary opponent against Clyburn. Whether or not Greene is a legitimate candidate does not negate the fact that "stinky" things are happening in SC!!!
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Dangerous Dan
Because I can!
02:46 PM on 06/14/2010
Clyburn won 50k to 5k.
Another great Repub covert campaign.
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Dangerous Dan
Because I can!
02:52 PM on 06/14/2010
Greene won by 30K over Rawls 70K.
Greene won all but 3 counties.

Maybe itismusical taste.

Al Greene vs Lou Rawls, though I would favor Lou.

Don't claim a color thing.
Greene did not put up one poster, flier, or TV Ad.
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01:09 PM on 06/14/2010
I found articles from before the election. Greene seemed like a "legitimate" candidate then.

In the Post and Courier and Greenville online. His answers about his platform seemed reasonable and thought out. Nothing like the unsophisticated idiot, that the media and Democrats are trying to portray this man as.

http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2010/may/15/constitution-jobs-among-senate-race-concerns/

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2010305250032

Why have most media outlets not mentioned: That he has a degree in Political Science from the University of South Carolina? That he has medals for service in the Army? That he was an Army Intelligence Specialist? That he served this country for 13 years?
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Billyguitar
Disgusted by politics since John Anderson lost. In
01:59 PM on 06/14/2010
Those are some fluffy articles. The reporter should have had more actual quotes.
02:11 PM on 06/14/2010
So why does he speak as if he just came out of a 13 year coma?
The man cannot complete a sentence.
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Dangerous Dan
Because I can!
02:48 PM on 06/14/2010
How many press conferences has Obama held where he has taken questions from he press?

Give the man a teleprompter and Rahm II athis elbow.
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05:35 PM on 06/14/2010
He isn't the only politician with those issues...
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01:05 PM on 06/14/2010
Let's turn the question around for a minute...

Just suppose, in a SC election (or primary), someone goes in and fiddles with the machines to cause the vote totals to be different from what actually occurred.

Would there be any way to tell that it had been done? Possibly more votes than voters?

And if you could prove alterations, then what? What, legally would be the next step?
01:39 PM on 06/14/2010
the machines can be fiddled with , but they could in 06 and 08 also. because of the electoral college its pretty easy to change a pres race.pick 4 states where mcain lost by 2 or 3 points , change the vote totals around in 5 or 6 divisions in each state and mcain wins election. but it didn't happen. comparatively who cares who wins sc senate.?
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07:19 PM on 06/14/2010
It's possible that what you're describing actually DID happen, but that the Obama faction was able to "beat the spread," as it were...
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JustaSlob
"I'll either be dead or in jail" ..Need help TED?
01:03 PM on 06/14/2010
3 ex-Governors went, and a 4th probably going to prison, I say leave South Carolina alone. They're making Illinois look good. GOOOO SC & ^ 5ZZZZZ