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Obama's Treasury Dept Working To Defeat Derivatives Proposal 'Of Utmost Importance' To Reforming Wall Street


First Posted: 06/14/10 02:30 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:45 PM ET

A Senate proposal to force banks to shed their lucrative yet risk-laden derivatives units -- which is vehemently opposed by Wall Street -- is gaining steam, picking up the support of some regional Federal Reserve chiefs with more on the way.

Yet President Barack Obama's Treasury Department, led by Timothy Geithner, continues to oppose the measure, Senate aides say, who add that Treasury is supporting Wall Street over Main Street by opposing the measure considered of "utmost importance" to financial stability.

"It shows the access of the major Wall Street banks in the Treasury Department in spades," one Senate aide said on the condition of anonymity. Assistant Treasury Secretary for Financial Institutions Michael S. Barr is said to be leading Treasury's efforts.

Senate aides say that more letters of support from other regional Fed presidents are on the way.

Treasury is joined in its opposition to the measure by the Federal Reserve's Washington-based Board of Governors and the head of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Sheila Bair.

Meanwhile, supporters include the longest-serving policy maker in the Fed, Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City President Thomas Hoenig, Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas President Richard Fisher, Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Hoenig and Fisher wrote letters of support last week to Senate Agriculture Committee Chairman Blanche Lincoln, the author of the provision, referring to it as "of utmost importance to our nation's long-term financial and economic stability."

"The dynamic with two Federal Reserve presidents coming out for it publicly, and the fact that there are more who are probably going to come out for it, means that [Treasury] can't resist it any longer," the Senate aide said. "They're going to have to accept it, because [the regional Fed support] is basically undermining both Bernanke as well as Geithner."

Lincoln's proposal would compel the nation's megabanks to move their swaps-dealing units, which deal and trade in a type of financial derivative product, into a separately-capitalized institution within the larger bank holding company. The affected firms collectively would have to raise tens of billions of dollars to protect their swaps desks in case their bets go bad. Or, they could disband the activity altogether.

Along with a few foreign banks, the nation's largest domestic banks essentially control the swaps market in the U.S. By forcing them to divest their units into separate affiliates, which in turn would compel them to raise money to capitalize these affiliates, Lincoln's measure could force them to scale down their operations. At the least, supporters say, it would force them to have enough cash on hand in case their bets begin to sour, saving taxpayers from having to step in to prop up the banks like they did in 2008. That taxpayer support continues today.

In a report Monday, the Financial Times reported that former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker softened his initial opposition to Lincoln's measure, quoting him as saying: "I tend to think of the bank holding company as the relevant organization."

Of the nearly 8,000 banks in the U.S., less than 25 would be seriously affected.

"It's really a Wall Street bank issue, not a community bank issue," the Senate aide said.

Treasury spokesman Andrew Williams insisted the agency has not taken a position on Lincoln's proposal.

The measure is supported by financial reform groups and academics who wish to purge the riskiest of risky activities from the U.S. banking system. Since banks enjoy taxpayer-financed protection via federal deposit insurance and access to cheap funds from the Federal Reserve, they shouldn't use that taxpayer support to subsidize risky bets on derivatives, say proponents of the measure.

"Section 716 appropriately allows banks to hedge their own portfolios with swaps or to offer them to customers in combination with traditional banking products," Hoenig and Fisher wrote in separate letters in reference to the part of the Senate's financial reform bill that compels banks to split their swaps desks from the depository institution.

"However, it prohibits them from being a swaps broker or dealer, or conducting proprietary trading in derivatives. The risks related to these latter activities are generally inconsistent with the funding subsidy afforded institutions backed by a public safety net. Such activities should be placed in a separate entity that does not have access to government backstops. These entities should be required to place their own funds at risk," the regional Fed chiefs said.

Senate aides say that Lincoln is clarifying the legislation in order to allow for banks to appropriately hedge for interest rate risk, like when banks offer consumers fixed-rate 30-year mortgages not knowing whether interest rates are going to rise or fall over the life of the loan; to have a phase-in period of up to 24 months so banks have time to complete the transition in an orderly manner; to ensure that it's clear that bank holding companies can house these swaps-dealing units (some lawyers argue that the legislation is vague on this point); and to ensure that banks can continue to offer swaps to customers in conjunction with traditional bank products like loans.

"Banks that have been acting as banks will be able to continue doing business as they always have," Lincoln said May 5 on the Senate floor. "Community banks using swaps to hedge their interest rate risk on their loan portfolio will continue to be able to do so. Most important, we want them to do so."

In addition to Fisher and Hoenig, Lincoln cites support from the Independent Community Bankers of America, the Consumer Federation of America, AARP, labor unions and leading economists.

"I think this shows that the [Fed's] Board of Governors and Treasury are out of touch with how a lot of other people are thinking about this stuff," said the Senate aide. "We're at the end of the game here, and people are standing up and saying, 'You're not addressing the underlying problem the way you ought to be.' It's tragic."

A spokesman for FDIC chief Bair declined to comment.

House Agriculture Committee Chairman Collin C. Peterson indicated his support for the measure last week during House-Senate negotiations over combining the chambers' separate versions of financial reform legislation.

Heather Booth, head of Americans for Financial Reform, a large coalition of consumer and labor groups, said that she was told as of Monday morning that some House conferees are still pushing to substitute the lower chamber's derivatives language for Lincoln's Senate language. Using the House language as the base would be a setback to reform, said Booth, and the group is working hard to keep bank-friendly Democrats from seizing the advantage.

"It is still an issue. We are concerned where the New Dems are on that," said Booth, referring to the New Democrat Coalition, made up largely of suburban Democrats with backing from the financial services industry.

The Senate aide expressed confidence in Lincoln's measure withstanding challenges.

Reform groups are also pressing hard for a tougher version of the Volcker Rule, which would prevent banks from trading with their own money, unrelated to the benefit of their clients. The groups, along with Senate aides, insist that it and Lincoln's derivatives rules are complementary, not alternatives. Reformers are pushing for both to be included in the final bill.

A White House spokesman said of Lincoln's spin-off measure that "we continue to see this specific provision as only one small piece of the sweeping derivatives reform that Senators Dodd and Lincoln and Chairman Frank have championed. The Administration will not get ahead of the work of the conference committee as members of the House and Senate merge their respective bills. Our goal is to see a strong bill on the President's desk by July 4th."

"At the end of the day, this might end up being what people will refer to instead of Glass-Steagall, but Volcker-Lincoln," the Senate aide said.

READ Lincoln's clarification language:

SEC. 716 TERM SHEET


CLARIFICATIONS

New FED Section 13 (3) Broad Based Federal Assistance to Swap Entities would be ok

Swap Dealer can be a BHC Affiliate
-Separately capitalized
-Subject to 23A and 23B restrictions

Bank MSPs not subject to FDIC Insurance and Fed Discount window restrictions.

FDIC bridge banks, conservatorships and receiverships exempted

2 Year Transition Period to "Push Out"

FBA gets to determine time frame for push out

FBA consults with SEC/CFTC

FBA required to consider impact on:
-Mortgage lending
-Small business Lending
-Jobs
-Capital Formation

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A Senate proposal to force banks to shed their lucrative yet risk-laden derivatives units -- which is vehemently opposed by Wall Street -- is gaining steam, picking up the support of some regional Fed...
A Senate proposal to force banks to shed their lucrative yet risk-laden derivatives units -- which is vehemently opposed by Wall Street -- is gaining steam, picking up the support of some regional Fed...
 
 
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01:26 PM on 06/16/2010
Geithner is a disgrace to America.
11:00 AM on 06/16/2010
Obama sided with the big banks?
Big surprise - didnt see that coming
07:58 PM on 06/15/2010
Blanched Lincoln needs to be defeated in 2010. I believe Blanched is in her last few days as a Senator.
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07:03 PM on 06/15/2010
Obama seems to be listening to the witch on how to get rid of evil. The system needs to be changed from top to bottom, not just reformed. there comes a time to rebuild, not even try to remodel, and that time is at hand. Too many termites, silverfish, rats and mice have had their turn at it. Identify the problems, audit it, get the evidence for prosecutions, end it with trials. Or don't do it and let it continue until it falls down on its own. Or our descendants end up being the ones who suffer when it does.
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stuckinarut
04:19 PM on 06/15/2010
Geithners' got to go!
04:25 PM on 06/15/2010
I totally agree.
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stuckinarut
04:17 PM on 06/15/2010
I want The President to take this opportunity to provide the change we all voted for, but I fear that tonight's address will solidify his position as corporate candidate of the year.

There is definitely a side of him that could enact this change, I just think we wont see that until he is re-elected in 2012. With no threats of losing his job, He will become more liberal.
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FREEDOM BELL
09:05 PM on 07/01/2010
With no threats of losing his job, He is becoming more conservative and neocon.
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stuckinarut
04:14 PM on 06/15/2010
we meet again
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stuckinarut
04:14 PM on 06/15/2010
My arch enemy, Voice of reason
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Kevin Atlanta
Active Citizen 54
12:01 PM on 06/15/2010
Kabuki, all of it. The Purchased Politicians are just show, puppets propped up so you are fooled into thinking you really have a voice. You don't, you won't, and it's too late. The Halliburton White House and the Bush/Cheney Wrecking Crew demonstrated that clearly when the Goldman Sachs White House purchase of $7Trillion happened for the New World Order President Obama. Too late kids.. You are owned...
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stuckinarut
04:20 PM on 06/15/2010
You lost me at new world order. but good otherwise!
10:56 AM on 06/15/2010
Further proof that the government is not only in bed with the big banks but is 5 years behind the curve in understanding the magnitude of the economic calamity they've unleashed. Obama stands up and tells us that firefighters, policemen and teachers are on the block to pay for his banker buddies' bonus checks - and thinks all is right with the world. He's so isolated behind the impregnable White House gates he doesn't hear the grinding of machetes, the beating of plowshares into swords, the desperate wail of citizens on the breaking point of revolt.
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LeftLeaner
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10:36 AM on 06/15/2010
Governmental agencies have just become"front" organizations for big business.

Government was intended to protect the people, not corporations (who NOW are considered people with EXTRAORDINARY rights and priviliges). Geithner, Bernanke, and their cronies are ironically HIRED to protect us, when this is the furthest thing from reality.

Yes, Government is TOO big, especially since it NOW represents the CORPORATIONS at the TAXPAYERS EXPENSE.

Why do we pay taxes anymore - to bail out Wall Street and the like - with the taxpayer STILL not being helped with the enormoujs, mortgage crisis begun in 2008.

Where's the BAILOUT, there?????
outnow
Ban the bomb
10:25 AM on 06/15/2010
Somehow Obama has formed a lifelong habit of going along to get along. That is the essence of Chicago politics going back to the 30's.

If Obama had been a trial lawyer, he would have learned that there are issues where only one side can win. I have never seen a single jury trial tried by Obama. Please feel free to correct mje if I am wrong.

Being a great compromiser ends up being a default on moral principles. A weak president signals distress, not strength to the enemies of democratic rule. Monopolies cannot be encouraged to shift even more wealth to powerful insiders. CDS are one tool used agaginst sovereign nations to banckrupt those governments, but only after the bankers get themselves bailed out.

Obama seems to compromise on everything. He seems to believe that a compromise shoudl be made in every instance such as torture and wars, BP, Wall Street reform, healthcare, etc.
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LeftLeaner
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10:39 AM on 06/15/2010
Yes, he compromises before he's even asked to, such as with the PUBLIC OPTION.

He said from the very beginning, Even Before Negotiations began, that the Public Option is off the table.

This can be read two ways. Either he was OPPOSED to it from the beginning, not allowing any support to begin, or he is just an extremely poor negotiator, giving away the house, without any concessions in return.

I'm not very impressed with his record so far.
11:03 AM on 06/16/2010
He must have said a thousand times during his campaign that he would grant habeus corpus to the Gitmo detainees. He railed against Bush he disregarding the Constitution on this point.

Now as President, he can't build any consensus on up-holding the Constitution - so, Gitmo remains open forever, and the detainees will never get their day in court.

To me, that is worse than being a compromiser - that is being a liar and a hypocrit.
10:03 AM on 06/15/2010
Let's face it--we were all had.
He is not nor will ever be the president we thought we were voting for.
We bought into the empty rhetoric and got suckered by a smooth operator.

He's proven himself to be nothing but a big money wall street oligarch shill.

His health-care bill was in reality a bailout for the insurance industry.
His TARP was in reality a bailout of the banking industry.

He was the guy who lifted the 20 year old ban on drilling in the gulf region.
He was the largest recipient of BP campaign donations, beating McCain and Hillary by a mile.

You've been had, I've been had, we've all been had.
Now what are we gonna do about it?
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10:26 AM on 06/15/2010
We're not gonna be had by the likes of YOU.
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hrpmap
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07:07 PM on 06/15/2010
Take your choice of who has you, but either way you have been and are still being had.
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gabemill
04:36 PM on 06/15/2010
Tarp was a bush initiative.......didn't your stay within the ones coloring lessons in kindergarten teach you that accuracy is important?
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hrpmap
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07:08 PM on 06/15/2010
And both Obama and McCain left the campaign trail to go vote for it, What part of thing one and thing two don't you understand.
07:51 PM on 06/15/2010
Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson initiated the TARP.
Bush the criminal, who was pretty much out the door by that time, released the first tranche of $350 billion out of a total $700 billion package.

Paulson and Bush left office on January 20th, 2009.

When Obama took office as President he mounted a fight in congress to get the second tranche of money released. The congress conducted a vote on whether they would or would not release TARP II-- or the second tranche of $350 billion. Obama won and the money was released.

This was done after if became obvious to everyone that the first part of TARP, or BUSHTARP, had been a boondoggle that really just lined the pockets of those who caused the mess in the first place. So there were now observable facts about the TARP and what it truly was.

If he wanted to he could have declined the second tranche, he could have said no, this is a Bush boondoggle that solves nothing and I won't have anything to do with bailing out the too big to fail banks.

Instead he fought tooth and nail to get it passed and to get the money released to him so he could turn it over to his backers, the Wall Street bankers and most importantly Goldman Sachs.

see this HuffPo article to refresh your memory:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/15/tarp-vote-obama-wins-350_n_158292.html
ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
10:00 AM on 06/15/2010
This is tougher than it looks.

The surest way to get "stability" from the banks is for them to stop lending or financing.
Then they will give very stable, safe predictable results: 0% profits, 0% economic growth.

One thing I'm sure of: none of "we posters" know enough about economics to judge this.
But "post" you all will, I'm sure, with great indignation.
(Though I'd like to hear from you those with real knowledge, like economists.)

"The more sure you are that you're right, the more likely you're wrong."
Same for HuffPost: the more vehement the post, the more likely the poster knows nothing.

Now I'll go read your feigned anger and righteous indignation. It's very entertaining :-)
outnow
Ban the bomb
10:17 AM on 06/15/2010
Many economist disagree with you. Geithner did not predict the subprime meltdown. He favors the TBTF banks. He was head of the NY FED at the time.

Would you believe a weatherman who was wrong on the hurricanes prediction every time and failed to give warning so insiders could get their ducks lined up while the small investors got hurt?

There is a range of opinions about this issue of derivatives and Glass-Staegall. What evidence are you offering for your side of the argument other than attacking posters?

This article is an important exposee' of where the Obama administration actually stands. The government should issue credit, not a cabal of bankers. That was the position of the Founding Fathers when they wrote the Constitution. Is that so unreasonable?
ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
10:53 AM on 06/15/2010
See my below reply: most economists believe the current bill WILL prevent future meltdowns, but they don't get quoted in HuffPost, which specializes in political advocacy, not meaningful dialog about laws.

Same with health care bill: HuffPost was useless when it came to evaluating it objectively. Better to read yahoo finance or the WSJ, see what Wall St thinks - they hate the bill.
ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
11:02 AM on 06/15/2010
The head of the FDIC, Sheila Barr, disagrees with you, while lesser heads of the Fed agree with you.

But that's my point: viewpoints on this are evenly split, yet this article dares to claim that it's all black and white, it's good guys vs bad guys.

And who are the authors? What do they know about it? I clicked on their names, and usually you get a bio but I get nothing. They are just reporters, HuffPost liberal bloggers. I don't see any economic credentials for them. How dare they judge the merits of the arguments for us?

I'm tired of HuffPost advocacy, I may go back to reading real journalism.
10:19 AM on 06/15/2010
But there are people who DO "know enough about economics to judge this" - and they are talked about in the article.
ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
10:49 AM on 06/15/2010
Sure, but if you go outside HuffPost and it's biased advocacy, you will see the experts disagree and think the financial reform bill is huge, substantial.

A few of the better articles here also did so, but they were complicated, and most didn't read and understand them.

The section on CAPITAL REQUIREMENTS is key: the meltdown happened because of excessive "leverage", the bill prevents that by requiring more capital per money gambled.

If either the House or Senate version was passed in 2002, the meltdown would never have happened. There wouldn't have been a real estate boom, because capital requirements would prevent the banks from lending so much.
Mickey1
Some things I know, and some things I don't.
09:35 AM on 06/15/2010
Geithner's gotta go. Geithner's gotta go. Geithner's gotta go.
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10:26 AM on 06/15/2010
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