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First Posted: 06/16/10 02:53 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:50 PM ET

Deficit concerns trumped jobless aid in the Senate Wednesday as a key vote on a bill to reauthorize several expired programs, including extended unemployment benefits, failed 45-52, with 12 Democrats voting against it.

"I've said all along that we have to be able to pay for what we're spending," said Sen. Ben Nelson, a Nebraska Democrat who voted against the bill. "$77 billion or more of this is not paid for and that translates into deficit spending and adding to the debt, and the American people are right: We've got to stop doing that."

Democrats scrapped a post-vote press conference moments before it was scheduled to start.

The "tax extenders" bill would reauthorize extended unemployment benefits put in place by the stimulus bill to fight the recession. In some states, laid-off workers were eligible for 99 weeks of benefits -- that is until Congress allowed the programs to lapse on June 1. Among other provisions, including family and business tax breaks, the bill would also stave off a 21 percent payment reduction for doctors who see Medicare patients and it would restore elevated federal funding for state Medicaid programs.

By the end of this week, 903,000 long-term unemployed who otherwise would have received benefits will have missed checks. By the end of next week that number will reach 1.2 million.

Both chambers of Congress already approved measures to extend these programs at least through the rest of the year, but the House and Senate used different sources of funding. When it came time to reconcile the bills, conservative House Democrats lost their appetite for adding to the deficit to help the economy. The same thing is now happening in the Senate.

Lurking beneath deficit concerns, for both Republicans and even some Democrats, is the suspicion that extended unemployment benefits discourage job-seeking. Rep. John Linder (R-Ga.) said last Thursday, for instance, that extended unemployment benefits are "too much of an allure" for people to look for work. Even Senate Democrats who voted in favor of the bill, such as Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), are starting to look toward winding down the programs.

"We have 99 weeks of unemployment insurance," Feinstein said. "The question comes, how long do you continue that before people just don't go back to work at all?"

Needless to say, no help is forthcoming from Congress for the 99ers, the several million people who will have exhausted all available benefits by the end of the year.

Judy Conti, a lobbyist for the National Employment Law Project, pointed out that a NELP-commissioned poll showed that 74 percent of registered voters think preserving jobless aid is more important than reducing the deficit at this time (a view shared by many economists).

"I fail to see how eviscerating a bill that is designed to create and save jobs, and support the unemployed, is going to do anything but increase our overall deficit problems," said Conti. "This approach is penny-wise and pound-foolish, and those who are not out there actively supporting job creation and the unemployed should be ashamed of themselves."

Republicans are expected to offer a version of the extenders bill with funding offsets from the stimulus bill, and Democrats may then offer a more scaled-down version that is less burdensome on the deficit. Part of that scaling-down will involve cutting $25 per week from unemployment checks and shortening the amount of time Medicare doctors are protected from the 21 percent pay cut.

UPDATE 6/17/2010

Sen. Feinstein's office clarifies that the senator does not think extended unemployment benefits discourage people from looking for work. From a spokesman:

Senator Feinstein believes that unemployed Americans want jobs, not unemployment checks. She has voted for every single extension of unemployment insurance during this downturn because she knows that there is currently one job opening for every five out-of-work Americans, according to the Department of Labor. Some 880,000 people have been unemployed for 27 weeks or more in California, which has a 12.6 percent unemployment rate - one of the highest in the nation.


Senator Feinstein is concerned about the deficit, but she also understands that unemployment insurance is a financial lifeline for millions of Americans right now. Given the dearth of available jobs, a sudden cessation of unemployment benefits would be financially devastating to many people.

Senator Feinstein is working hard to make sure Congress enacts policies that will promote economic recovery, create jobs across multiple sectors of the economy and keep America's economy strong in the 21st century.

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Deficit concerns trumped jobless aid in the Senate Wednesday as a key vote on a bill to reauthorize several expired programs, including extended unemployment benefits, failed 45-52, with 12 Democrats ...
Deficit concerns trumped jobless aid in the Senate Wednesday as a key vote on a bill to reauthorize several expired programs, including extended unemployment benefits, failed 45-52, with 12 Democrats ...
 
 
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Dbos
Single payer universal health insurance agent
12:40 AM on 06/18/2010
The american way reward the guilty punish the innocent.
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Kassandra
Your micro-bio is empty
07:13 PM on 06/17/2010
So they're cutting Medicare and Medicaid after all the healthcare kabuki??
Now, I hear that after we bailed out the auto industry that the jobs will be outsourced:
http://preview.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-09/gm-ford-to-accelerate-growth-at-mexico-plants-where-workers-get-26-a-day.html

No wonder our corrupt congress is worried about deficits
03:16 PM on 06/17/2010
Who all of you here complaining about tax cut for the rich:

The rich pay almost all Federal income taxes. Which accounts for the vast majority of Federal revenue. So lets say you cut taxes by 10% for everyone. The majority of the cuts naturally go to the rich because they pay most of the taxes. Here are the numbers:

http://www.american.com/archive/2007/november-december-magazine-contents/guess-who-really-pays-the-taxes
03:19 PM on 06/17/2010
For all of you*
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Kassandra
Your micro-bio is empty
07:42 PM on 06/17/2010
Some people will believe anything if it has pictures/graphs attached.
02:27 PM on 06/17/2010
order green upgrades for all gov building.

save money, employ everyone, problem solved.

solar wind and waste biofuels are the only solution to the energy crisis.
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MeetJohnDoe
MadTeaparty
12:14 PM on 06/17/2010
Boy, is she out of touch.
11:19 AM on 06/17/2010
Funny how no one wants to brave articles about how American jobs continue to be outsourced. they outsource jobs that we could do here, but then we turn around and buy products made elsewhere that we could have made here. The only people who speak out against my comment are those who are shareholders or corporatist who want the larger profit margins. GE received $20 MILLION IN BAILOUT FUNDS AND THEN OUTSOURCED THE JOBS TO MEXICO; so basically TAXPAYERS PAID GE TO OUTSOURCE OUR JOBS; WE PAID GM TO OUTSOURCE OUR JOBS TO MEXICO; Get it? We pay them with our tax dollars to outsource our jobs. PRIVATIZE THE PROFITS + PUBLICIZE THE DEBT = THIRD WORLD BANANA REPUBLIC!!!!!!!!!!!!
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tinyrainbows
11:17 AM on 06/17/2010
Use some stimulus money. Pay people to sweep streets or pick up trash on the highways. Do the same for people getting welfare checks, too.
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Kassandra
Your micro-bio is empty
07:44 PM on 06/17/2010
There is no more "welfare' Reagan got rid of it years ago. Try to keep up
I've got a better idea. let's go back to child labor and get crippled people out to work on the highways, clean up the oil or anything else you have in your beautiful mind.
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jasondeluxe
11:08 AM on 06/17/2010
The right wing, corporatist talking point that individuals will not seek gainful employment insofar as benefits are available to them is breathtakingly misguided even by right wing standards.

Consider that even the most generous UI package is well below poverty level in most areas and by conservative estimates there are six applicants for every opening and one does not need to be a professor of economics like myself to understand how fundamentally misguided this line of thinking really is.

What is to happen to demand when even more folks have NO income? It's a vicious cycle, but just trust that more tax cuts for Paris Hilton will be a clarion call for the magical fairie of the market and all will be better.

That's what bothers me most about the right in this country is that they substitute "common sense" and what "feels" or "should" be right for an actual scientific approach to complex matters and then arrogantly state such as incontrovertible fact.
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HANNIBAL1066
I've written on the Tea Party movement at politica
11:05 AM on 06/17/2010
Is the Congress paying for the war in Afghanistan or is that part of that deficit?

Using Simple Ben Nelson's logic, Congress should cut off funding for the war, too.

The conservative Democrats have the wrong priorities.
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Kassandra
Your micro-bio is empty
07:48 PM on 06/17/2010
No, I watched the House before the Memorial Day recess and they took all that money and added it to the war supplemental. See, this is how presidents now get around the Constitution requiring the House to declare war...supplementals. It gives the president unitary executive privilege to wage wars...most of them illegal by international laws
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thepheonix
thepheonix..is that better Dems?
10:43 AM on 06/17/2010
Bye Bye Dems. Your ship is sinking into the oil.

LOL
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MoreDimensions
10:50 AM on 06/17/2010
Your ship has sunk.
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gun1934
75 years old fisherman
10:10 PM on 06/17/2010
i would like to pick up trash on the highways if they paid me--im not to good--and need the money----------yesssssss
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wikwox
So there I was, playing the piano....
10:29 AM on 06/17/2010
Howzabout funding the Extension with funds deleted from the two never ending wars? Then do a study to see if there was any impact on said wars outcome or alledged progress?
crease
GOP has it wrong on so many levels
10:30 AM on 06/17/2010
And use the unused TARP $$$$$$ for some of it to!!!
10:25 AM on 06/17/2010
Deficit spending for war: yes. Deficit spending for unfortunate Americans: no. This country really sucks.
10:37 AM on 06/17/2010
One of us can give you a ride to the airport. There are better places for you to live.
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tinyrainbows
11:10 AM on 06/17/2010
I'll volunteer to drive him. I just bought a new car with the raise I received. This is awesome...car prices are down. I'm looking at new Harleys.
crease
GOP has it wrong on so many levels
10:25 AM on 06/17/2010
Once again the folks on Main st get screwed because of the conservadems and of course the very altruistic Repubs who are on a saving binge after 8 years of relentless borrowing and spending on our dime and some of us can't even get help from the gov't when it's needed.We have 6 people for every job opening in this country and combine that with the lowest cost of labor since god knows when and viola you got underemployment and no spending cash except for food,housing and clothing and that's it.As one of the world's top exporters of natural resources our descent in a 3rd world status is nearing the bottom and is poised to stay there for quite awhile until we get some decent paying jobs for the working middle class who are the ones that drive the economy of this country and infrastructure spending is the only way out of this mess not more tax cuts for the wealthy that have not created one job since ray gun Ronnie started us on this deregulation,free market neo-liberal trickle down supply side monopolistic economy we have today where the rich get richer and we foot the bill,can you say revolution????
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heydee17
10:21 AM on 06/17/2010
Do you see anywhere else we could take money from to pay for domestic programs that actually help the common citizen:

The follow is a table of the top 15 countries with the highest military expenditure for 2009 published in the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) Yearbook 2010 using current market exchange rates in current (2009) US dollars.[3]
Rank Country Spending ($ b.) World Share (%)
— World Total 1531 100
1 United States 661 43
2 China 100a 6.6a
3 France 63.9 4.2
4 United Kingdom 58.3 3.8
5 Russia 53.3a 3.5a
6 Japan 51.0 3.3
7 Germany 45.6 3.0
8 Saudi Arabiab 41.3 2.7
9 India 36.3 2.4
10 Italy 35.8 2.3
11 Brazil 26.1 1.7
12 South Korea 24.1 1.6
13 Canada 19.2 1.3
14 Australia 19.0 1.2
15 Spain 18.3 1.2
^ SIPRI estimate
crease
GOP has it wrong on so many levels
10:29 AM on 06/17/2010
Cut our military spending in half and go back to Eisenhowers taxes and we could sovle this country's problem in a very short 5 years of less and we can be right back to where we were under the the second biggest centrist Clinton,Obama is the top centrist and we could produsce the wealth we had from WWII until Ray Gun Ronnie and his war on the working middle class started.
10:46 AM on 06/17/2010
Yeah you do that, abolish half of the military. Gone forever will jobs training for working class Americans exiting high school in every feild from X-ray techs to plumbers. The soldiers you lay off will all NEED immediate jobs that pay enough for housing, groceries, transportation, etc... Releasing so many all at once will flood the trades market like you wouldnt believe. Wages will drop for those who are employed due to the absurd availability of qualified individuals. This means tax revenue drops too. On top of that countless factories will lay off their workers when the military no longer needs manufactured equipment. Those people will spend the rest of their lives looking for work. Then you can watch as every business that surrounds every military base in America goes under and lays off all of their employees. Those people wont be making any of your tax revenue either.

The loss of technological advances and global leverage will also be a price to pay.

When its all said and done we get a 30 to 40% unemployment rate and nobody to pay the taxes you speak of.
04:40 PM on 06/17/2010
Amen, I am 100% in agreement Regan was one of the worst president we ever had!! closely followed by both the Bushes , on the other hand Clinton eliminated the defict, he had a surplus when he left office!!, The President that had the best economical polices for the middle class was ........ Richard Nixon ......., He had a neg. income theory, the earn income tax credit came from this theory. Damn Shame he was a crook, but his policy were sound.
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MoreDimensions
12:47 PM on 06/17/2010
Fanned
10:15 AM on 06/17/2010
obama please learn from Spain and DO NOT CREATE GREEN JOBS:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a2PHwqAs7BS0
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MoreDimensions
10:52 AM on 06/17/2010
Oil is on a 3% projected decline per year.

There is no choice.
11:51 AM on 06/17/2010
Your green jobs are a dead end. The only reason America needs them is because we now have millions of useless progressives out of college bussing tables and serving burgers.

You need an excuse to exist now, while having no constructive trade skills at all.

So far you have been destructive. My job at home pays me to deliver groceries to your supermarkets. To do that I need a vehicle that can pull a 53 foot trailer all day and all night. Your green faith based religion imposed "clean air" BS that led to me having less than half of the fuel efficiency I should have. Now I have to burn more fuel to go the same distances while millions more useless progressives of the faith exit college and demand that I stop using the pump so much. How can I do that when the law requires me to have crappy gas millage?

The Europeans you model yourselves after are allowed to have trucks with more than twice the MPG on a haul.
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heydee17
12:31 PM on 06/17/2010
This would directly contradict the article you referred to, as the information below comes from http://www.unep.org/labour_environment/PDFs/Greenjobs/UNEP-Green-Jobs-Towards-Sustainable-Summary.pdf

Table 3. Employment in Germany’s renewables sector, 1998, 2004 and 2006*
1998 2004 2006 Expected growth,
2006–2010† (per cent)
Wind power 16,600 63,900 82,100 6.8
Solar energy 5,400 25,100 40,200‡ 49
Hydropower 8,600 9,500 9,400 n/a
Geothermal energy 1,600 1,800 4,200 74
Biomass 25,400 56,800 95,400 37
Services 10,000 n/a n/a n/a
Subtotal 66,600 157,100 231,300§ n/a
Research, public information, export and other
marketing promotion, administration
n/a 3,400 4,300 n/a
Expansion of production capacities for
renewable energy equipment
n/a 5,800 23,500 n/a
Total 66,600 166,300 259,100 n/a
*Data include direct and indirect jobs, based on an input-output analysis. The data for the three years presented are not strictly comparable, as
the underlying data collection for these estimates varies.
†According to a poll of businesses.
‡26,900 jobs in solar PV and 13,300 in solar thermal.
§Of this total, 139,300 jobs were in manufacturing and installations (including export sales), 41,800 in operations and maintenance, and
another 50,200 in supplies of biofuels.
Source: Marlene Kratzat et al., “Erneuerbare Energien: Bruttobeschäftigung 2006” (Stuttgart, Berlin, and Osnabrück: Zentrum für Sonnenenergie
und Wasserstoff-Forschung Baden-Württemberg, Deutsches Institut für Wirtschaftsforschung, Deutsches Zentrum für Luft- und Raumfahrt, and
Gesellschaft für wirtschaftliche Strukturforschung, September
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MoreDimensions
12:43 PM on 06/17/2010
thanks for the info.