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Gulf Oil Full Of Methane, Adding New Concerns

First Posted: 06/18/10 08:07 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:50 PM ET

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The oil damaged shoreline in the Northern reaches of Barataria Bay is seen amidst oil polluted waters as Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's tours oil damage in Barataria Bay, La., Thursday, June 17, 2010. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)

NEW ORLEANS (Associated Press) - It is an overlooked danger in oil spill crisis: The crude gushing from the well contains vast amounts of natural gas that could pose a serious threat to the Gulf of Mexico's fragile ecosystem.

The oil emanating from the seafloor contains about 40 percent methane, compared with about 5 percent found in typical oil deposits, said John Kessler, a Texas A&M University oceanographer who is studying the impact of methane from the spill.

That means huge quantities of methane have entered the Gulf, scientists say, potentially suffocating marine life and creating "dead zones" where oxygen is so depleted that nothing lives.

"This is the most vigorous methane eruption in modern human history," Kessler said.

Methane is a colorless, odorless and flammable substance that is a major component in the natural gas used to heat people's homes. Petroleum engineers typically burn off excess gas attached to crude before the oil is shipped off to the refinery. That's exactly what BP has done as it has captured more than 7.5 million gallons of crude from the breached well.

A BP spokesman said the company was burning about 30 million cubic feet of natural gas daily from the source of the leak, adding up to about 450 million cubic feet since the containment effort started 15 days ago. That's enough gas to heat about 450,000 homes for four days.

But that figure does not account for gas that eluded containment efforts and wound up in the water, leaving behind huge amounts of methane.

BP PLC said a containment cap sitting over the leaking well funneled about 619,500 gallons of oil to a drillship waiting on the ocean surface on Wednesday. Meanwhile, a specialized flare siphoning oil and gas from a stack of pipes on the seafloor burned roughly 161,700 gallons.

Thursday was focused on Capitol Hill, where lawmakers chastised BP CEO Tony Hayward.

Testifying as oil still surged into the Gulf at between 1.47 million and 2.52 million gallons a day, coating more coastal land and marshes, Hayward declared "I am so devastated with this accident," "deeply sorry" and "so distraught."

But he also said he was out of the loop on decisions at the well and disclaimed knowledge of any of the myriad problems on and under the Deepwater Horizon rig before the deadly explosion. BP was leasing the rig the Deepwater Horizon that exploded April 20, killing 11 workers and triggering the environmental disaster.

"BP blew it," said Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., chairman of the House investigations panel that held the hearing. "You cut corners to save money and time."

As for the methane, scientists are still trying to measure how much has escaped into the water and how it may damage the Gulf and it creatures.

The dangerous gas has played an important role throughout the disaster and response. A bubble of methane is believed to have burst up from the seafloor and ignited the rig explosion. Methane crystals also clogged a four-story containment box that engineers earlier tried to place on top of the breached well.

Now it is being looked at as an environmental concern.

The small microbes that live in the sea have been feeding on the oil and natural gas in the water and are consuming larger quantities of oxygen, which they need to digest food. As they draw more oxygen from the water, it creates two problems. When oxygen levels drop low enough, the breakdown of oil grinds to a halt; and as it is depleted in the water, most life can't be sustained.

The National Science Foundation funded research on methane in the Gulf amid concerns about the depths of the oil plume and questions what role natural gas was playing in keeping the oil below the surface, said David Garrison, a program director in the federal agency who specializes in biological oceanography.

"This has the potential to harm the ecosystem in ways that we don't know," Garrison said. "It's a complex problem."

In early June, a research team led by Samantha Joye of the Institute of Undersea Research and Technology at the University of Georgia investigated a 15-mile-long plume drifting southwest from the leak site. They said they found methane concentrations up to 10,000 times higher than normal, and oxygen levels depleted by 40 percent or more.

The scientists found that some parts of the plume had oxygen concentrations just shy of the level that tips ocean waters into the category of "dead zone" -- a region uninhabitable to fish, crabs, shrimp and other marine creatures.

Kessler has encountered similar findings. Since he began his on-site research on Saturday, he said he has already found oxygen depletions of between 2 percent and 30 percent in waters 1,000 feet deep.

Shallow waters are normally more susceptible to oxygen depletion. Because it is being found in such deep waters, both Kessler and Joye do not know what is causing the depletion and what the impact could be in the long- or short-term.

In an e-mail, Joye called her findings "the most bizarre looking oxygen profiles I have ever seen anywhere."

Representatives of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration acknowledged that so much methane in the water could draw down oxygen levels and slow the breakdown of oil in the Gulf, but cautioned that research was still under way to understand the ramifications.

"We haven't seen any long-term changes or trends at this point," said Robert Haddad, chief of the agency's assessment and restoration division.

Haddad said early efforts to monitor the spill had focused largely on the more toxic components of oil. However, as new data comes in, he said NOAA and other federal agencies will get a more accurate read on methane concentrations and the effects.

"The question is what's going on in the deeper, colder parts of the ocean," he said. "Are the (methane) concentrations going to overcome the amount of available oxygen? We want to make sure we're not overloading the system."

BP spokesman Mark Proegler disputed Joye's suggestion that the Gulf's deep waters contain large amounts of methane, noting that water samples taken by BP and federal agencies have shown minimal underwater oil outside the spill's vicinity.

"The gas that escapes, what we don't flare, goes up to the surface and is gone," he said.

Steven DiMarco, an oceanographer at Texas A&M University who has studied a long-known "dead zone" in the Gulf, said one example of marine life that could be affected by low oxygen levels in deeper waters would be giant squid -- the food of choice for the endangered sperm whale population. Squid live primarily in deep water, and would be disrupted by lower oxygen levels, DiMarco said.

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FIGI
12:20 PM on 06/21/2010
Here is another.

lynnie on May 31, 2010 - 5:52pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Parent subthread |

One the relief well:]

"It might take a half dozen tries, but they will hit eventually.

The reason it might not be a success is that according to what I read elsewhere ( and I thought the person got their info here but I might be wrong) there is evidence that the casing failed at the bottom and so there is oil and gas coming up outside the pipe as well as inside the pipe. I don't know much about plugging holes down there with cement, but if there is a hole opened up in the reservoir rock cap outside the pipe, this is why a bomb to crimp the rock and pipe shut would be the only answer. You can't cement a hole in the rock.

I have zero worries about a nuke down there and fully support Simmons. I think most people have an exaggerated fear of nukes as far as radiation from this goes...although if it did sublimate ( melt, but from solid to gas) methane hydrates, I can see that it might be apocalyptic.....

..and I don't think Simmons speaks from any dementia, but from wisdom and concern.....

Source:http://anz.theoildrum.com/node/6532
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FIGI
12:20 PM on 06/21/2010
I'm not saying nuke it or not. What do I know [don't answer that]. Here is a comment from The Oil Drum website.

dissident on May 31, 2010 - 6:15pm Permalink | Subthread | Parent | Parent subthread |

"The anti-nuclear spasm is quite absurd. These people are worried about radiation from a low yield device detonated thousands of feet under the GOM seafloor (where there is rock and it is sufficiently deep to form a seal) but say nothing about the thousands of varieties of carcinogens spewed along with the oil. The chemical carcinogens are no less of a threat than any ground level release of radioactive cesium and strontium and they will be in the system for decades.

The only legitimate concern is that the low yield device does fractures the bedrock too much making the well permanently unsealable. But this would mean that there was way too much force applied to the problem. This is an engineering problem and we have the data on the rock strata."
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tc399
Your personal Eschatologist.
02:35 AM on 06/21/2010
@Hollybork: I can't find the thread where you mentioned that we have no manned deep-diving submersible capable of serious work at great depths, but we do. At least the navy does. The last one I see mentioned publicly, and not very much, had the unappealing name of DSRV-3 but it is now retired. The current edition is not a public item but there isn't anything it could do anyway.

The 1980s Russian equivalent was called the MIR. I think they are still being leased to civilians; one was used to take the pictures of the Titanic.
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04:41 PM on 06/20/2010
I cannot believe the word "could" is being used in the headline.... referring to "dead zones"... could create dead zones? Seriously? Do we HAVE any marine bioligists in this country?

A high school student could figure out that the gulf is dead..... a high school student educated in Europe.... but a high school student nevertheless.
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FIGI
02:21 PM on 06/20/2010
Want to see what the methane explosion, subsequent tsunami, and methane fire would look like?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25BE42PzZZc
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tc399
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06:56 AM on 06/21/2010
(1) the methane is not going to explode.
(2) a tsunami will not be generated by methane...however, if the floor of the Gulf ruptures, that's something else entirely. A tsunami could result from that.
(3) no methane fire.
(4) A hurricane in the wrong place, or a couple of them will be even worse. When it begins to rain oil.....it's not going to be good.
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tc399
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12:31 PM on 06/20/2010
Let's clarify. The 40% of the leak that is Methane is not visible. In order to account for it correctly, you have to ADD the methane volume to the oil volume we see. Methant has another name 'Natural Gas'. when it rises to the surface and disappears into the atmosphere, it is ~23 times more powerful as a greenhouse gas than CO2.

It is very easily conceivable that this incident is big enough to create an extinction event directly.
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tc399
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12:43 AM on 06/21/2010
I should qualify. SHORT TERM, ~8-20 years, Methane (CH4) is 72 times stronger than CO2 as a greenhouse gas. Eventually it will oxidize into CO2 and water vapor, both very powerful greenhouse gases.

I just watched the clip about Methane release and potential explosion. It is wrong. Methane is explosive, but only at very specific concentrations; and methane is not floating around dissolves in clouds in the ocean. It is either trapped as clathrate (methane ice) or it bubbles to the surface and enters the atmosphere.

The Discovery clip also combined CO2 and Methane events without being clear that they are different. If you were not listening closely, you might not have noticed.

That is not to say we don't have a problem; it is just not one of a multi-megaton methane explosion. Given that methane is, short term (again, ~8-20 years) 72 times worse than CO2, I think it is fair to say that the Gulf disaster has or will release at least the equivalent of the world's total annual output of CO2.

That means that whether or not one believes climate change is driven Anthropogenically, climate change IS occurring and BP probably just sped it up by a century to save three million dollars.

IF we are even close to a major climate excursion, it will probably now happen within the next eight years instead of the next two centuries. It will not be something one can choose to believe or not. You will know.
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11:23 PM on 06/19/2010
Isn't methane a green-house gas as well?
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12:52 AM on 06/20/2010
Yes, methane is a more active greenhouse gas as compared to carbon dioxide. It is a shame to waste the natural gas from the well, but burning it at the site is an improvement over letting it escape to the atmosphere. The silver linings in this disaster are few, and that is a very, very small one.
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tc399
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01:09 AM on 06/21/2010
Do you mean it's a shame to convert the methane to CO2 at the wellsite so BP doesn't make an obscene profit instead of converting it to CO2 in fork lifts and barbeques? Is that what you mean?
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12:10 PM on 06/19/2010
"The gas that escapes, what we don't flare, goes up to the surface and is gone," he said.

I'm afraid one of the critical elements of the story has been omitted. When methane "goes up to the surface and is gone", it is going into the earth's atmosphere. Scientists have no idea what percentage of methane in the sea escapes into the air. A study is currently underway to try to determine this.

Methane is about 25 times more potent than CO2 in causing global warming and could potentially be responsible for "sudden climate change."

The damage caused to marine life and the Gulf's eco-system cannot be overstated but the impact on the entire planet needs to be addressed as well.
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01:30 AM on 06/21/2010
Short-term (~8-20 years) , methane is 72 times more potent than CO2. The boiling point of methane. The boiling point of methane is minus 258degrees, F at sea level.

Methane is the simplest hydrocarbon. Carbon (C) has four valence electrons and forms covalence with four Hydrogen electrons (H4) to form the molecule (CH4). The molecule is stable and thus will not hang around in the ocean interacting with oxygen, but it will burn in the presence of oxygen (even underwater). It will however, DISPLACE oxygen so it is a suffocant (asphyxiant). https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Methane

http://worldofmolecules.com/fuels/methane.htm

Unless it is held under extreme pressure and temperature in the form of methane ice (methane clathrate), it will not sit suspended in water. It will tend to rise and escape to the atmosphere because it is lighter than water.
10:53 AM on 06/19/2010
this system was put in play by the last administration, and unfortunately the current one did not or was unable to clean house prior to the inevitable. Obama deserves poor marks for rapid response and crediting BP with any form of integrity. This disaster is another example of the complete disdain the Bush administration had for the American people and our Nation.
09:15 AM on 06/19/2010
Do they teach elementary science to any of the 'scientists' any more?

First it was the huge underwater plumes devastating life. Any new articles supporting them in the last few days?

Now

'That means huge quantities of methane have entered the Gulf, scientists say, potentially suffocating marine life and creating "dead zones" where oxygen is so depleted that nothing lives.'

When last I checked methane has a Specific Gravity of less than 0.1 and sea water SG 1.035. If methane hydrates were stable at the riser location then we would see them on the underwater videos. (and if an-aerobics critters are gobbling it up they are fixing the problem)

So gravity works and most of the methane is now dispersed in the atmosphere.

I do not get the continual boogie-man stories. Are we American thinking people?
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01:00 PM on 06/19/2010
Ever open a bottle of carbonated liquid? Those bubbles are gasses dissolved in water. Go back to P-chem 101, then report back when you are performing at a "C" level or above.
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tc399
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02:06 AM on 06/21/2010
Those bubbles are CARBON DIOXIDE, not methane. "Carbonated"?
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tc399
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01:45 AM on 06/21/2010
Are we American thinking people?
-TLSA

Bahahahahaha! Are you serious? Of course not. You are being sarcastic. Specific gravity?!??!?! OHOHOHOHOHOHOH NO! Stop it! Yer killin' me. This is America! 'No child left behind'. Most college graduates today can't flush a toilet much less understand specific gravity.
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07:06 AM on 06/19/2010
METHANE POISONING OUR UNDERGROUND RIVERS
This method of using methane hydrates to collapse earth's crust to get at underground rivers for drinking is already being used and the underground rivers are being polluted with nasty tasting inflammable methane.
How can we stop these greedy maniacs that are destroying our underground rivers which may be the last supply of drinking water after the oil companies get through poisoning the oceans?

Award winning Documentary "Gasland" On this subject of contaminating our underground rivers, will air on HBO Monday June 21, at 9 M.
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tc399
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02:11 AM on 06/21/2010
(1) Not possible. Clathrate is simply methane ice, just as dry ice is frozen CO2. But methane isn't easy to freeze. Look up it's boiling point.
(2) methane is colorless, odorless and tasteless. It is composed of one carbon atom and four hydrogen atoms. No flavor. Sorry.
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04:40 AM on 06/19/2010
"It's a race now...a race to drill the relief wells and take our last chance at killing this monster before the whole weakened, wore out, blown out, leaking and failing system gives up it's last gasp in a horrific crescendo." http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6593#comment-648967
01:00 AM on 06/19/2010
Yes, I despise Hayward as the Devil incarnate and renounce all of his and his infernal corporation's works -- but am I alone in being slow and ignorant? I swear, I've never seen or heard some of the figures used in this article. "Testifying as oil still surged into the Gulf at between 1.47 million and 2.52 million gallons a day, coating more coastal land and marshes, Hayward declared '.I am so devastated with this accident...."" 2.52 million gallons a day! I would like to give the Devil his due so would someone tell me where such a truly horrifying figure comes from?
03:48 AM on 06/19/2010
Sorry folks for being truly slow -- just saw that the feds on the 15th raised their outside estimate to 60,000 bbl (or 2.5 million gallons) according to TIME, p. 13.
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edwoodjr
09:28 PM on 06/18/2010
What is the status of the dispersants? Are they still pouring them on in the hunderds of thousands of gallons? Adding additional contaminants to the water seems like the dumbest thing to do but it seems to have disappeared from the story.
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edified
09:36 PM on 06/18/2010
NO!!!!
There's an excellent article about that buried at the bottom of the Green section.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/18/bp-must-stop-using-toxic_n_617334.html
After reading it may I also suggest....
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact
How many of you have done it?
If ever there was a time it's now.
Please. Just do it.
EPA National Oil Response Center
866-448-5818
I got an actual person.
10:04 PM on 06/18/2010
Thank you so much for this! I just completed the online form with the plea to stop the use of the dispersants.

The irony of the spam prevention word I had to enter:
damndest but
...and I am not kidding.
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edified
09:41 PM on 06/18/2010
I meant yes they are still pouring them...and yes we MUST say NO!!!
08:10 PM on 06/18/2010
No one seems to be talking about what will happen during hurricane season. The Gulf Coast will get drenched with toxic Methane/Oil laden rain, no?
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edwoodjr
09:27 PM on 06/18/2010
Lightning will ignite the rain; it's the end of the world.
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