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Wall Street Reform Could Cost Goldman Sachs BILLIONS


First Posted: 6/18/10 03:11 PM ET Updated: 5/25/11 05:50 PM ET

The proposed financial reforms pending before Congress could cost Goldman Sachs nearly a quarter of its annual profits, Citigroup analysts estimate in a new report.

Goldman, the most profitable securities firm on Wall Street, could lose up to $5.06 in earnings on a per-share basis if Congress passes a bill that forbids banks from trading for their own profit, owning or sponsoring hedge funds and private equity funds, and compelling them to move most of their derivatives dealing into regulated markets, according to the research note.

Combined with a potential fee to recoup taxpayer losses on TARP and higher deposit insurance assessments on its bank, Goldman could lose up to 23 percent of its profits, giving it the distinction of being the firm most impacted by the financial reform legislation.

Morgan Stanley is a close second as the team of Citi analysts, led by Keith Horowitz, estimate that it could lose up to 20 percent of its profits. Up to 18 percent of JPMorgan Chase's profits are at risk, while Bank of America, the nation's largest bank by assets, could see up to 16 percent of its profits evaporate.

The so-called "Volcker Rules," which would ban banks from putting their own capital at risk in hedge funds, private equity firms and through proprietary trades, and limit the growth of the largest ones, could shave four percent off the banks' bottom lines, the Citi analysts estimate. Tighter restrictions on prop trading, which come in the form of a provision pushed by Democratic Senators Carl Levin of Michigan and Jeff Merkley of Oregon, could cost the big banks five percent of their profits.

Combined with the various other aspects of the pending legislation -- like compelling banks to hold better-quality capital, making the biggest ones pay more for deposit insurance and robust regulation of heretofore unregulated derivatives -- and the nation's biggest banks could collectively lose up to 11 percent of their annual profits, the Citi analysts estimate in their Wednesday report. Goldman, Morgan, JPMorgan and Bank of America would be the most impacted.

"[O]ne of the biggest areas of risk for the group is tougher trading rules via [a] narrow definition of what constitutes banned proprietary activity," the authors noted. They were also careful to note that while their estimates required many assumptions, they viewed their final figures as a "reasonable and conservative base to gauge where earnings might shake out."

Goldman, for example, could lose up to $1.5 billion in annual profits due to the tighter rules governing trades when their own capital -- rather than that of their clients -- is at risk. Goldman's potential loss would be bigger than the combined impact on BofA, JPMorgan and Morgan Stanley.

The combined impact of the Volcker Rules and the Merkley-Levin provision could cost Goldman up to $5.6 billion a year in lost profits.

The report also notes that derivatives could become a more expensive line of business for megabanks if the final legislation adopts a measure pushed by Sen. Blanche Lincoln, an Arkansas Democrat. Lincoln wants to compel banks to spin off their units that deal in swaps, a kind of derivative, into a separately-capitalized affiliate within the larger bank holding company. The amount of capital the banks would have to raise would be "substantial," the Citi analysts note.

"Funding costs will likely rise," they wrote, as "[c]ommercial banks enjoy the benefit of funding derivatives with low cost and stable deposits. A separate subsidiary would require funding with a mix of short- [and] long-term debt, and equity."

This may also hurt their competitiveness, as U.S. firms like Goldman and JPMorgan would have to compete with European megabanks that fund their derivatives bets with low-cost deposits, the authors note.

Elsewhere in the report, the authors note that a proposed measure to regulate the interchange fees large banks collect from merchants on customers' debit card usage could cost Bank of America up to $432 million in annual lost revenue. Wells Fargo could lose up to $350 million, while JPMorgan Chase could lose up to $298 million.

A Senate measure that would force large banks to pay more for deposit insurance relative to smaller banks could lost BofA up to $1.2 billion annually, while JPMorgan Chase could have to shell out $1.7 billion and Wells Fargo about $634 million.

Another Senate provision that would force banks to hold better-quality capital, introduced by Maine Republican Susan Collins with the support of Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation Chairman Sheila Bair, would have a "limited" impact on the nation's biggest banks, the authors note. However, big regional banks like Fifth Third Bancorp, M&T Bank Corp., and BB&T Corp. could be hit particularly hard as between a fifth and a quarter of their current capital is in the form of a debt-like security that Collins wants to limit. Those banks may have to raise billions in fresh capital to maintain current levels.

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The proposed financial reforms pending before Congress could cost Goldman Sachs nearly a quarter of its annual profits, Citigroup analysts estimate in a new report. Goldman, the most profitable secur...
The proposed financial reforms pending before Congress could cost Goldman Sachs nearly a quarter of its annual profits, Citigroup analysts estimate in a new report. Goldman, the most profitable secur...
 
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MisteRational
11:44 AM on 06/22/2010
Weep, weep weep. Sob, sob, sob.

Oh, dose poor wittle parasitic, leeching, investment bankers, only making miwwions instead of biwwions, boo-hoo-ho­o.

I am sure they can afford to take the hit as it is less than 10% of their net.
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vippy
Carpe Diem!
10:14 AM on 06/22/2010
...three countries are imposing a bank tax on the banks so the tax payers does not get called upon again if they mismanage. They are asking other countries to join them, I bet, USA won't be one of them.
11:29 PM on 06/21/2010
D-I-L-L-I-­G-A-F!
06:30 PM on 06/21/2010
I really feel badly for JPMorgan and Goldman. Maybe they would like to know how much of my profit was lost in the past year and probably several future years? As a building contractor I am lucky to still be in business, thanks to the irresponsi­ble actions of the above two and some of their few associates­. How much of their honest profit will they lose? I think dinging credit card users with enormous late fees and userous interest rates, rigged with their short odd numbered billing cycle, using a credit card system that is monopolize­d, tends to lack honor. Today late fees are charged on top of interest when a payment is one day past the due date, which is normally less than 20 days past the billing date. The tradition has always been that you are due a late fee when your payment is 30 days past the due date. This is how these crooked profits are made. What was their profitabil­ity before Reagan? Likely that would be a fair measure of what a legitimate profit is.
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Longtimeliberal
04:52 PM on 06/21/2010
Oh too bad-maybe the greedy CEO's will only get one billion a year-how awful
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Bettysdad
The arc of human history is to the left.
12:23 AM on 06/21/2010
Shouldn't the headline be:

"Wall Street Reform Could Save Goldman Sachs' Customers Billions?"
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FoonTheElder
Always choosing between the lesser of two evils
11:08 PM on 06/20/2010
If it costs them billions, well...Gol­dman can afford it!
06:59 PM on 06/20/2010
Why did this old Siegel-Sch­wall tune start tunning through my head as I read this article?

I don't believe what I read just because I'm reading it
I don't believe - I don't believe
When the war has ended then I'll know we're free from it
I don't believe - I don't believe
Go ahead and tell me that we'll pass the test
I'll hear what you say but I won't hold my breath
I'll hear what you say but I won't hold my breath
I'll hear what you say but I won't hold my breath
05:51 PM on 06/20/2010
Anything that takes some caviar from the plates of the disservice sector of the economy sounds good to me.
schatsie
Wealth Taxes work in Germany and Switzerland
11:42 AM on 06/20/2010
Well, Warren Buffett is NEVER GOING to let Goldman Sachs loose a penny of profit....­This Wizard even keeps the sales taxes collected by Mid Ameican Energy instead of remitting them to the states..He owes about a billion dollars in taxes and there is NO FINE OR INTEREST Rate applied to that......
02:28 PM on 06/20/2010
Whoa schatsie:
Give us more! As a faithful collector and payer of multiple state sales taxes, I would really like to see any references (to Mid American Energy) that you are aware of. If my company forgets to file a zero balance return we get penalized! Let alone blow off taxes. Collecting sales tax and not remitting it is a classic breach of fiduciary duty.
schatsie
Wealth Taxes work in Germany and Switzerland
03:08 PM on 06/20/2010
I agree with every word you said....Da­vid Kay Johnson wrote about this in his exquisite book FREE LUNCH...It is all about Corporate Welfare, you know where Warren writes off his jet as a business expense and you and I get to pick up the tab for the avoided taxes.... and do we get a deduction for driving to work (the French do)...nope we do not....and that sure is business related in my mind...The book is spectacula­r specially the parts about Walmart...
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FoonTheElder
Always choosing between the lesser of two evils
11:23 PM on 06/20/2010
Another bit of MId American Energy corporate welfare that has been at least temporaril­y halted. LB775 is a Nebraska corporate welfare program that allows refunds of taxes for investment­s and hiring in Nebraska.

"MidAmeric­an Energy is suing the state after state officials grounded a $1.1 million sales tax refund the company expected on the purchase of a corporate jet.

Under Nebraska's 1987 economic developmen­t act, LB 775, companies can get sales tax refunds for such aircraft.

But the Nebraska Department of Revenue rejected the refund because MidAmerica­n's multimilli­on-dollar Falcon 50EX jet, purchased in 2004, was used to transport U.S. Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., on a trip between Albany, Ga., and Omaha on Nov. 28, 2006.

Using such planes for fundraisin­g or transporti­ng an elected official disqualifi­es a company from getting the sales tax benefit, State Tax Commission­er Doug Ewald ruled, citing prohibitio­ns in LB 775."
http://www­.artdiamon­dblog.com/­archives/2­010/05/mid­american_e­ne.html
08:37 AM on 06/21/2010
Thanks Foon:
I meant to fan you the other day for great links. The one on G.E. was especially good. Glad for your response, here, and there.
California­, the state that I'm most familiar with re Sales Tax has a bunch of these exceptions on their quarterly return form and as I prepare it for second quarter it will take on new meaning.
What else do I live for but to subsidize another business whilst the state runs out of money.
10:07 AM on 06/20/2010
That Citi estimate is bogus, as the requiremen­t to spin-off assets does not mean they are worthless. They simply will be sold or cordoned off in a separate legal entity. And many of the higher costs of doing business will be passed along to you and me.

However, this reform package does appear to have some real teeth. Does the prospect of passage change your willingnes­s to invest in the market?

I'm conducting research of how the stock market's volatility has impacted the asset mix of household investment portfolios over the past two years. The link below will take you to a brief survey. Once you have completed the survey, you will see a graphic of the average investor allocation at 3/31/2010.
https://ww­w.surveymo­nkey.com/s­/investmen­ts1

Thanks to the 600+ respondent­s that have completed the survey so far. Some interestin­g tidbits...

1. A plurality of respondent­s report having an above average willingnes­s to take investment risk.

2. Less than half of respondent­s were net purchasers of equity over the past year.

Please note: none of the questions ask for identifyin­g informatio­n (e.g., name, social security #s, bank/broke­rage accounts #s)
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hypnotoad72
Real democracy = living wages.
09:32 AM on 06/20/2010
It's time for full reform and a new symbiosis created. The middle class, which has kept wall street going directly (spending) or indirectly (taxpayer-­funded subsidy, bailouts, and other 'entitleme­nts'), needs a bailout as well. I'd rather our money bail out us, especially if big companies take this aid but then continue the same tactics (like continuing offshoring despite it and its effects having been a cause.)
schatsie
Wealth Taxes work in Germany and Switzerland
03:10 PM on 06/20/2010
Back in the 1920s. the bottom 90% paid NO TAXES, get that NO taxes and the tax rates for the top were in the 70-90 percent range.....­.and that was to pay off WW1...
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taxolotl
delta / time
02:47 AM on 06/20/2010
i wonder how many people making minimum wage will be outraged by the loss of revenue for these mega-banks­. my guess is, 20% of the US population or so.
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hypnotoad72
Real democracy = living wages.
09:28 AM on 06/20/2010
Which is more and more due to the driving down of the wages, which is effectivel­y removing freedom...
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taxolotl
delta / time
05:40 PM on 06/20/2010
that's an interestin­g posit...an­d the more I think about it, the more I agree. we need a healthy middle-cla­ss to be a healthy country. increasing wealthy disparity is a sure sign that something is very very wrong.
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WoolStreet
02:00 AM on 06/20/2010
Wall STreeters should be pounding rocks and carrying anvils
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12:40 AM on 06/20/2010
"Wall Street Reform Could Cost Goldman Sachs BILLIONS"

if that's truly the case, then financial "reform" clearly isn't going far enough