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Arizona Immigration Law: Immigrant Families Leaving State

AMANDA LEE MYERS   06/22/10 06:06 PM ET   AP

Arizona Immigrant Families

PHOENIX — "Cinco dolares," Silvia Arias says when asked the price of car polish at a garage sale that she and two close friends, Minerva Ruiz and Claudia Suriano, are holding. "Five dollars." Another sale is made.

The three women planned the sale to raise money to leave Arizona. Though all are longtime residents, viewed as pillars of parental support at the neighborhood elementary school, they're also illegal immigrants from Mexico. And along with many others, they want to escape a tough new state law whose stated intention is unambiguous: To drive illegal immigrants out of Arizona and to discourage them from coming here.

There is no official data tracking how many are leaving as a result. "It's something that's really tough to get a handle on numerically," said Bill Schooling, Arizona's state demographer. "It's not just the immigration bill. It's also employer sanctions and the economy. How do you separate out the motivating factors?"

Still, anecdotal evidence provided by schools and businesses in heavily Hispanic neighborhoods and by healthcare clinics suggests that sizable numbers are departing. Ignacio Rodriguez, associate director for the Phoenix Roman Catholic diocese's Office of Hispanic Ministries, said churches in the area are also seeing families leave.

Priests are "seeing some people approach them and ask for a blessing because they're leaving the state to go back to their country of origin or another state," he said. "Unless they approach and ask for a sending-off blessing, we wouldn't have any idea they're leaving or why."

Ruiz and Suriano and their families plan to move this month. Arias and her family are considering leaving, but are waiting to see if the law will go into effect as scheduled July 29, and, if so, how it will be enforced.

The law requires police investigating another incident or crime to ask people about their immigration status if there's a "reasonable suspicion" they're in the country illegally. It also makes being in Arizona illegally a misdemeanor, and it prohibits seeking day-labor work along the state's streets.

Ruiz, Suriano and Arias are representative of many families facing what they consider a cruel dilemma. To leave, they must pull their children from school, uproot their lives and look for new jobs and homes elsewhere. But to stay is to be under the scrutiny of the nation's most stringent immigration laws and the potentially greater threat of being caught, arrested and deported. They also perceive a growing hostility toward Hispanics, in general.

On the quarter-mile stretch of Phoenix's Belleview Street where both Ruiz and Suriano live, more than half the apartments and single-family homes have "for rent" signs out front.

Alan Langston, president of the Arizona Rental Property Owners & Landlords Association, said his group doesn't track vacancy rates but that his members believe they will be affected by people leaving because of the new law.

The friends say most of the vacancy signs went up after the new law was signed in late April.

"Everyone's afraid," Arias says.

The three friends are key members of a parents' support group at their children's school down the street, said Rosemarie Garcia, parent liaison for the Balsz Elementary School District.

"They are the paper and glue and the scissors of the whole thing," Garcia said. "I can run to them for anything."

With two of the women leaving and the other thinking about it, Garcia is concerned about the school's future.

"It'll be like a desert here," she said. "It's a gap we'll have all over the neighborhood, the community, our school."

Ruiz, Suriano and Arias met three years ago at cafecitos, or coffee talks, held at the school. Now their families hold barbecues together and their children have sleepovers.

Arias, 49, and her day laborer husband paid a coyote to come to Arizona 15 years ago from Tepic, Nayarit on Mexico's central-western coast. Their children, ages 9, 11 and 13, are U.S. citizens.

"I don't want to leave but we don't know what's going to happen," she says.

Ruiz, 38, and her husband, who builds furniture, came to the U.S. from Los Mochis in the northwestern Mexican state of Sinaloa about six years ago on tourist visas, which expired long ago. Two of their kids, ages 9 and 13, are here illegally, while their 1-year-old was born here. The family is moving to Clovis, N.M., where they have family. "It's calmer there," Ruiz says.

Suriano, 28, and her husband crossed the desert six years ago with their then-toddler. The boy is now 9, and the couple has a 4-year-old who was born here. They're moving to Albuquerque, where they don't know anyone but already have lined up an apartment and a carpentry job for him.

"I don't want to go," Suriano says, wiping away tears. "We're leaving everything behind. But I'm scared the police will catch me and send me back to Mexico."

Some people in the neighborhood are not sympathetic.

"Bye-bye, see you later," says 28-year-old Sarah Williams, who lives two blocks south of Ruiz and Suriano with her 5- and 7-year-old children and her aunt. "They're taking opportunities from Americans and legal citizens."

However, Williams, says she doesn't support Arizona's new law because she believes it will lead to racial profiling.

The law still faces several pending legal challenges. The U.S. Justice Department also is reviewing the statute for possible civil rights violations, with an eye toward a possible court challenge.

The law's backers say Congress isn't doing anything meaningful about illegal immigration, and so it's the state's duty to step up. They deplore the social costs and violence they say are associated with illegal immigration.

The law's critics say it will lead to racial profiling and discrimination against Hispanics, and damage ties between police and minority communities.

As the debate plays out, dozens of healthcare clinics in central and southern Arizona say many of their Hispanic clients aren't showing up for scheduled appointments. They say they're either afraid to leave the house or they're moving away, said Tara McCollum Plese, a spokeswoman for the Arizona Association of Community Health Centers, which oversees 132 facilities.

"Some are actually calling the clinics and asking if it's safe to come, if they need papers," since the new law passed, she said.

Sick people avoiding treatment can become a public health problem, she said. "We're actually worried about communicable diseases."

If enough people stop going to the clinics, she said, some services could be cut, and some clinics, especially in rural areas, could be forced to close.

Schools may face laying off teachers and cutting programs because of fewer students, educators say.

Parents pulled 39 children out of Balsz Elementary, which has a 75 percent Hispanic student body, since April 23, the day the law was signed by Republican Gov. Jan Brewer. In the small, five-school district, parents have pulled out 111 children, said district Superintendent Jeffrey Smith, who cites the new law as the leading factor.

Smith said each student represents roughly $5,000 in annual funding to the district, so a drop of 111 students would represent roughly a $555,000 funding cut.

Many schools across Arizona have seen a steady decline in Hispanic students in recent years, although some district superintendents say the current drop is more dramatic. Schools attribute the declining numbers to the recession and to the state's employer-sanctions law, which passed in 2007 and carries license suspensions and revocations for those who knowingly hire illegal immigrants.

Area businesses also say they're seeing the effects of people leaving the state.

Steve Salvato, manager at the family-owned World Class Car Wash, just around the corner from Belleview Street, said business is down 30 percent. Salvato said the car wash relies mostly on Hispanic customers and points to the new law for the recent decline in business.

"A lot of people have just packed up and moved," he said, adding that a strip mall across the street used to be bustling on weekends. "Now it's like a ghost town."

A nearby Food City grocery store reports a 20 percent to 30 percent drop in business.

Back at the garage sale, the three friends have a row of tables strewn with Barbie dolls, bicycle helmets, old movies and a Jane Fonda workout video. A laundry basket is overflowing with children's toys, and a shopping cart is filled with clothes.

They are selling off pieces of their lives.

Their easy banter, mostly in Spanish, quickly turns to tears when they're asked about their impending separation. Ruiz and Suriano have pleaded with Arias to follow them to New Mexico.

"They're my companions," Suriano says of the other two women. "We do everything hand-in-hand."

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PHOENIX — "Cinco dolares," Silvia Arias says when asked the price of car polish at a garage sale that she and two close friends, Minerva Ruiz and Claudia Suriano, are holding. "Five dollars." An...
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TeaLady005 06:56 PM on 06/22/2010
A person that sneaks into our country unlawfully,,,and is inside our country unlawfully,,, is a criminal. We have an Immigration and Naturalization Department in place, that hundreds of thousands of people use each year to come into our country legally.

No amnesty for lawbreakers who think they are "owed something" or think they have any "rights" bo live here simply because they are inside  Read More...
02:02 AM on 07/06/2010
Part I

The media never ceases to amaze me. I will tell you a little about Belleview Street, and some of it's history, I know it well; I lived on it for 27 years, having moved from there only 5 years ago, in 2005.
Our home there was purchased in 1976; my husband bought it before we were married, and I moved in a few years later. It was a family neighborhood populated with horse properties, the crosscut canal, and a daycare center that stood for over 30 years, a Lucky's supermarket, and yes, Balsz school. My best friend was the PTA president there for over 5 years, as well as her husband holding several positions on the board as well. It was a quiet, safe, family environment to have children in and raise my family. Or so I thought.
02:01 AM on 07/06/2010
After my daughter was born in 1982, I had to go back to work; I worked at the Burger King on 44th St and Thomas road; yes, I flipped burgers in what is now considered a "hard working job that only Hispanic's want" with other housewives and students that were looking to carve out a future for themselves. I stayed with Burger King by the way for over 10 years working my way through the rankings to a corporate position.

But things were changing in the neighborhood, the west side of 44th Street on Belleview became "government housing"; crime rates raised, fires broke out constantly, the streets became littered with trash, condoms, and needles, drug deals were being done on the street, rocks were thrown at passing cars by day, and gun shots could be heard each night. The illegals had arrived in my neighborhood.
The Lucky's Supermarket pulled up stakes and moved out, (El Rancho moved in), several other businesses did the same, leaving for better neighborhoods.
02:01 AM on 07/06/2010
How do I know they were illegals? Well, the friend of mine that was President of the Balsz PTA, as well as a few friends that were teachers at Balsz confirmed that, they were more than a little frustrated with the turn of events.
02:00 AM on 07/06/2010
Never kid yourself; our schools have unfortunately become badly run businesses. While the teachers and "go to parents" in that day fought for better curriculum, the school became all about numbers, they didn't care if the kids were legal or not, only about the cash it poured into their system. They get more than that $5000; they get the neighborhood tax dollars, and even more for each child on the free lunch program, in the ESL program etc.
Balsz used that money to add mobile outbuildings to house new classrooms for the influx of ESL children, bolstering their numbers, while ceiling tiles fell in the other classrooms, and basic supplies weren't to be found. I wish I was lying, but I'm not...my niece was a 3rd grade teacher there, and spent over $500 of her own money for paper and pencils etc., basic things that were necessary for her job.
02:00 AM on 07/06/2010
I made the decision not to send my children to Balsz; I didn't want them to see what was on the other side of 44th St. on Belleview, I didn't want them to have to make decisions about smoking and drinking, and drugs, and gangs, while they were in school, I wanted them to learn about reading, writing, and arithmetic, in a safe environment. The classrooms were overcrowded, the teachers overwhelmed with kids that didn't speak English and couldn't keep up. The expectation was that they passed a certain percentage of their students; more than a few good teachers left from that pressure rather than pass on children that were failing because of the language barrier. They had integrity.

With the addition of the 202 loop for a front yard, the rest of the horse properties were wiped out, and more rentals and government housing was added, we had to get a permit to extend the fence in our front yard to 6 feet from 3; the kids bikes were stolen, a drunken illegal with a knife showed up in our yard one evening while my husband was out BBQing, other things were disappearing, another Hispanic male was caught in the act of trying to steal my daughter's first vehicle while it was parked in our yard, (he got away with her purse) and things continued to get worse. It was time to go.
01:59 AM on 07/06/2010
Part II

So this journalist can show up for 30 minutes and talk to a few nice family women and paint this pretty picture of the Hispanic community all that she wants; but it's far from the hard truth.

The truth of the matter is that Arizona did just fine without all the illegals. I am all about immigration, just not about supporting anyone that chooses to cross our border without compunction for our laws. I am not about giving them my hard earned money so that they can get Wic and Welfare, government housing, and ruin our neighborhoods.
We pay out more in terms of those things as well as police resources, incarceration, our judicial system, and healthcare than what we will lose if they leave.

Want to boycott us? Fine, stay the hell away, we are survivors, we will be fine, I will work my fingers honestly to the bone to keep what I have, and if I lose it I'll start all over again, I'd rather do that than continue to give a free ride any longer. The buck stops here.

If Ms. Myers thinks Belleview St. is all that, she should try living there...
07:47 PM on 07/01/2010
Can’t and won’t are the two words Obama uses more than any other. Let me be clear about this, the border can be sealed, it must be sealed. Other Nations don’t seem to have a problem sealing their borders. IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.

IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.

IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.

IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.

IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.
Yes you can enforce the laws of our Nation if you at least TRY.
Obama can talk the talk but he can’t walk the walk.
NO AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS.
COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM IS AMNESTY.
01:01 PM on 06/27/2010
Adios!!!
12:19 PM on 06/25/2010
What the article does is play the heart strings and provide a reason to pity people. I feel for everyone of these people but the Federal Law and the new state law are just that. LAWS which need to be enforced.
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Phil11514
09:12 PM on 06/26/2010
LAWS are NOT "special" or "holy". There are stupid and immorallaws, written by stupid and immoral people.

Immoral and unjust laws need to be strenuously and vigorously disobeyed.
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10:38 AM on 06/25/2010
The headline should read "Illegal immigrant families leaving." The law works.
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TggerJen
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11:58 AM on 06/25/2010
Exactly!! Faved!
12:03 PM on 06/25/2010
YES! and every state should adopt the same law.
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Phil11514
07:31 AM on 06/25/2010
CHANDLER, ARIZONA COMPANY: SB-1070 IMMIGRATION LAW COST US $40 MILLION CONTRACT

by Luci Scott - Jun. 24, 2010 04:55 PM
The Arizona Republic

A Chandler builder lost a contract worth nearly $40 million at Los Angeles International Airport, and he suspects it's related to the boycott of Arizona begun in response to the immigration law, Senate Bill 1070.

The Los Angeles City Council voted 13-1 in May to boycott Arizona businesses. The resolution prohibits the city from conducting business or signing contracts with Arizona companies unless the immigration law is repealed.

Mere days before that, Steve Kovach IV, president of Chandler's Kovach Inc., was told his construction bid was rejected.

"We were shocked," he said.


The loss of the bid was mentioned Wednesday by Don Cardon, director of the state Department of Commerce, as an example of the ramifications of the boycott against Arizona. Cardon spoke at an Economic Update Forum at lunch at the Ocotillo Golf Resort in Chandler.

Even though the rejection occurred shortly before Los Angeles enacted the boycott, he believes the two are connected.

"If I had factual information, my best guess as a disgruntled loser of the bid, I guarantee (the boycott) had some kind influence. The timing could not have been worse. We had the best value."

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/06/24/20100624chandler-arizona-immigration-california.html#reply20461770#ixzz0rrafPVzx
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TggerJen
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11:32 AM on 06/25/2010
According to your post, "he suspects it's related to the boycott of Arizona." Well, his company just lost a bid so an easy target for blame is the boycott.
Even if that's the reason, it's going save us much more money than it costs.

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/87xx/doc8711/12-6-Immigration.pdf
"In terms of public education, unauthorized immigrants who are minors increase the overall number of students attending public schools, and they may also require more educational services than do native-born children because of a lack of proficiency in English. Analyses from several states indicate that the costs of educating students who did not speak English fluently were 20 to 40 percent higher than the costs incurred for native-born students.6, 7"
and
"Education is the largest single expenditure in state and local budgets. Because state and local governments bear the primary fiscal and administrative responsibility of providing schooling from kindergarten through grade 12, they incur substantial costs to educate children who are unauthorized immigrants.30, 31"
and
"30. The federal government provides about 10 percent of the total amount spent by all levels of government on kindergarten through grade 12 each year.
31. Most of the estimates that CBO reviewed did not include costs associated with children who were born to unauthorized immigrants in the United States because those children are U.S. citizens. If those children had been included in the estimates, their fiscal impact—particularly on education—would have been higher."
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Phil11514
09:15 PM on 06/26/2010
See if you can follow this:

"Most of the estimates that CBO reviewed did not include costs associated with children who were born to unauthorized immigrants in the United States BECAUSE THOSE CHILDREN ARE U.S. CITIZENS."

Therefore, since you ARE STILL GOING TO BE MADE TO PAY TO EDUCATE U.S.-BORN CHILDREN OF ILLEGALS, YOU ARE NOT going to "save any money".
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Phil11514
09:24 PM on 06/24/2010
Kobach also served under Attorney General John Ashcroft during the Bush administration. There he developed a controversial program to profile Muslim men from certain countries and track them while in the U.S.

Kobach is also the proponent of a near-mystical nativist legal concept: that local cops have the inherent authority to enforce all federal statutes. Most legal scholars find this idea laughable, but folks like Arpaio and Arizona state Senator Russell Pearce cling to it like a life preserver in choppy waters.

When Arpaio lost his 287(g) street authority last year, he kept referring to a little known law that allowed him to continue to pursue Hispanics sans papers. In fact, unbeknownst to him, he was referring to this bankrupt legal theory that Kobach's known for pimping. Now Kobach will be writing a legal opinion to rationalize Arpaio's racial profiling, and schooling MCSO goons in how to be bigots and get away with it.

For Bill Straus, the Arizona ADL's Regional Director, Arpaio's hiring of Kobach demonstrates that Arpaio "is not serious with the concerns that have been raised about his tactics and treatments of immigrants...It's difficult to interpret this as anything but an affront to the federal government, the community at large, and certainly the Hispanic community."

There is another way to interpret it: Arpaio already assumes that he will lose the racial-profiling lawsuit Melendres vs. Arpaio, and that the Justice Department will conclude an investigation that finds that the MCSO has violated civil rights.
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Phil11514
09:20 PM on 06/24/2010
Regarding FAIR, the SPLC's Mark Potok had this to say:

FAIR is listed as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which publishes annual listings of such organizations. Among the reasons are its acceptance of $1.2 million from the Pioneer Fund, a group founded to promote the genes of white colonials that funds studies of race, intelligence and genetics. FAIR has hired as key officials men who also joined white supremacist groups. It has board members who write regularly for hate publications. It promotes racist conspiracy theories about Latino immigrants. It has produced television programming featuring white nationalists.

And John Tanton, the man who founded the group in 1979, has a long personal history of associating with white nationalists. In a 1993 letter to Garret Hardin, a committed eugenicist who promoted pseudo-scientific ideas of racial purity, Tanton wrote candidly: "I've come to the view that for European-American society and culture to persist requires a European-American majority, and a clear one at that."

The committee allowed Kobach to speak, but the stigma Kobach carries both precedes and hounds him. In 2004, he ran as a Republican against Democrat Dennis Moore, and was spanked hard, losing by 11 percent to Moore in Kansas' largely Republican 3rd District. One reason he lost, according to The Road to Congress 2004 was because, "in general, Kobach was accused of taking money from a white supremacist organization, and the charge stuck."
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Phil11514
09:17 PM on 06/24/2010
JOE ARPAIO PARTNERS WITH NATIVIST EXTREMIST KRIS KOBACH, ARIZONA ADL BLASTS BOTH

As disturbing as the prospect is of a nativist extremist lawyer like Kris Kobach training all 881 of Sheriff Joe's beigeshirts in immigration law, I have to wonder if it's a sign that Arpaio's throwing in the towel on the big Melendres vs. Arpaio racial-profiling lawsuit now underway in federal court.

What, was Stormfront's Don Black not available? Maybe Tom Metzger could take a break from running his white nationalist Web site The Insurgent to come down and offer some words of supremacist wisdom to Joe's benighted deputy dawgs. And don't forget David Duke, that cat's always lookin' for a gig.

I kid, of course. Being an attorney, Kobach's ties to anti-immigrant and extremist nativist organizations are far more white collar, with the emphasis on white. The controversial University of Missouri law prof acts as counsel for the Immigration Reform Law Institute, the legal arm of FAIR, the notorious Federation for American Immigration Reform.

The Southern Poverty Law Center has tagged FAIR as a hate organization, and FAIR's earned the title. Last April, when Kobach was announced as a minority witness before the U.S. House Judiciary Committee during the committee's hearing into the 287(g) program and Joe Arpaio, the SPLC hit the committee with a letter objecting to Kobach's presence because of his ties to FAIR
09:11 PM on 06/24/2010
The Los Angeles City Council has voted to make an exemption to its economic ban of Arizona.

The council unanimously agreed to extend the city's contract with the Scottsdale-based company that operates 32 red light cameras across Los Angeles

The council says the move is necessary to protect public safety.
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Phil11514
09:14 PM on 06/24/2010
And, of course, "no one else in the entire world is capable of" monitoring red-light cameras.......

The City of Los Angeles has something known as a LEGAL CONTRACT involving management of the red-light cameras. At some point in the future, that LEGAL CONTRACT will come up for expiration or renewal. At that point, L.A. will probably be looking into who else can supply comparable services.
09:23 PM on 06/24/2010
If its a legal contract why bother enacting a "boycott"? Let me clarify a few points that you made earlier with regard to the boycott. First the electricity issue. While you are correct the City of Los Angeles does have an ownership in the power contract, the contract can be renegotiated. Part of the contract has a re-opener clause that allows both parties, if agreeable to renegotiate or cancel for convenience. The City of LA decided not to do it and let the issue die...Second there are a lot of companies, or other entities that would love to provide power to Los Angeles, but at a much higher rate than is contained in the current contract...Which makes it unattractive to pursue...
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TggerJen
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10:07 PM on 06/24/2010
"Los Angeles is the second-largest city in this country. An immigrant city, an international city needs to have its voice heard," Councilman Ed Reyes said.
http://cbs2.com/local/Los.Angeles.City.2.1689109.html

That legal contract WAS about to expire; they CHOSE to renew it and ignore the AZ boycott. Convenient- absolutely. The courage of their convictions- not so much. What a principled stance!

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/LaurieRoberts/87632
"Los Angeles makes exception to its Arizona boycott

As expected, the city of Los Angeles showed just how committed it is to its boycott of Arizona.

On a 13-0 vote, the LA City Council on Wednesday decided to exempt the city’s red-light camera program from its shunning of all things Arizona.

The red-light cameras are run by Scottsdale-based American Traffic Solutions.

Had it not extended the contract, 32 red-light cameras would have gone dark next week."