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A 'Double-dip' Recession Defined

JEANNINE AVERSA   07/ 1/10 06:03 PM ET   AP

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WASHINGTON — Concerns are rising that the economy is at risk of slipping into a "double-dip" recession.

High unemployment, Europe's debt crisis, a slowdown in China, a teetering housing market and sinking stock prices are all weighing on a fragile U.S. recovery.

So what exactly is a double-dip recession?

Robert Hall has an idea of what one looks like but no precise definition. He's chairman of the National Bureau of Economic Research, a group of academic economists that officially declares the starts and ends of recessions.

In Hall's view, a double dip is akin to a continuous recession that's punctuated by a period of growth, then followed by a further decline in the economy.

The NBER doesn't define a double dip any more specifically than that, says Hall, an economics professor at Stanford University.

In econo-speak, Hall explains: "The idea – hypothetical because it has yet to happen – is that activity might rise for a period, but not far enough to complete a cycle, then fall again, and finally rise above its original level, only then completing the cycle."

Hall says the closest the United States has come to a double dip was in 1980 and 1981. But the NBER concluded that those were two distinct, though closely spaced, recessions – "not a double dip," he says.

Not so, says Sung Won Sohn, professor at California State University, Channel Islands. Sohn says the back-to-back recessions of the early '80s fit his definition of a double dip: A recession followed by a short period of growth followed by a recession.

Brian Bethune, economist at IHS Global Insight, has a view similar to Hall's: A period in which the economy shrinks, starts growing again and then shrinks again – for at least six months.

"There is no mathematical formula; it's a judgment call," Bethune says.

The NBER has declared the economy fell into a recession in December 2007. It hasn't yet pinpointed an end to the recession. It said in April that it would be "premature" to do so.

Many other economists say the recession ended in June or July of last year. The economy returned to growth again in the third quarter of 2009, after four straight quarters of declines. More recently, the economy has added jobs in each of the first five months of this year.

Still, the threats to the recovery from overseas and at home are growing. So are the risks that the recovery will fade out. Economists say the odds of that remain low but have crept up since a couple of months ago. Analysts are downgrading their growth forecasts for the second half of this year.

In determining the starts and stops of recessions, the NBER reviews data that make up the nation's gross domestic product. The GDP measures the value of goods and services produced in the United States. The NBER also reviews incomes, employment and industrial activity.

The panel, based in Cambridge, Mass., tends to take its time in declaring when a recession has started or ended.

It announced in December 2008 that the recession had actually started one year earlier – in December 2007.

And it declared in July 2003 that the 2001 recession was over. It had actually ended 20 months earlier – in November 2001.

In President George W. Bush's eight years in office, the United States fell into two recessions. The first started in March 2001 and ended that November. The second started in December 2007; its end date is pending the NBER's determination.

The timing of the NBER's decision likely means little to ordinary Americans now muddling through a sluggish economic recovery and weak job market.

Many will continue to struggle. Unemployment usually keeps rising well after a recession ends. After the 2001 recession, for instance, unemployment didn't peak until June 2003 – 19 months later.

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WASHINGTON — Concerns are rising that the economy is at risk of slipping into a "double-dip" recession. High unemployment, Europe's debt crisis, a slowdown in China, a teetering housing market an...
WASHINGTON — Concerns are rising that the economy is at risk of slipping into a "double-dip" recession. High unemployment, Europe's debt crisis, a slowdown in China, a teetering housing market an...
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weekendpartier
I need some money!
08:59 PM on 07/13/2010
you know, i'm getting sick and tired of reading about all the bad news! goddamnit - I want someone to do something about it! I want ACTION - America is a supposed to be a nation of action, not a nation of whiners! GET UP and let's get down to DC and protest!
05:11 AM on 07/06/2010
two dips = one depression
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11:43 PM on 07/03/2010
i like to think of a double-dip recession as a recession (bta depression) interrupted by a GINORMOUS stimulus spending bill.
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DismayedRepub
300Mm/s Not just common sense, it’s the law
04:19 PM on 07/03/2010
A “Double-Dip” recession presumes some period of economic growth between two contractions. The government has been counting their spending as part of the GDP and if you take it out of the calculation there has been no period of growth. This is a continuation of the Economegedon that started in 2007.
10:17 AM on 07/03/2010
Right now Washington Pols are shrugging their shoulders on the unemployment and jobs issue. The unemployed are left out to hang there, suspended in the financial crisis, which NO ONE on the HIll seems to know/or want to help. The unemployed are the invisible entities and the collateral damage that the POLs don't care about. Believe it!
The Republicans have one, all consuming, aim in this endeavor -- Make Pres Obama and the Democrats a FAILED Administration. This issue, unemployment/ jobs is the thugs Waterloo. Once the thugs have made this issue, they feel that the next election will put them in the Majority. Once in the majority -- the thugs want to extend Bush's tax cuts to the wealthy and go on with the deficit spending for THEIR CAUSES (not yours). Believe it!

So, my friends, this does not bode well for the unemployed and jobs. The thugs want YOU to slip quietly into the night and become the seething undercurrent of society (which no one will care about). And, the numbers will show the world that YOU do not exist -- hell, they don't count you now once you are dropped from the rolls (at the rate of 1.7 million per week) until unemployment is 0%. The closer we get to November, the more YOU will be extinct to the masses.

But, that's okay, because the Repugs will gain their control of government. This is their ONLY objective. Believe it!
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rbchilds
In times of deceit, the truth will set you free
08:44 AM on 07/03/2010
Double dip recession: Recession # 1: Loss of job and home and retirement; Recession #2: Loss of homeless shelter, food and clothing.
olddognewtrick
Half full or half empty...It's the same
01:18 AM on 07/03/2010
One that could use a sugar cone and some sprinkels...
05:53 PM on 07/02/2010
I think it is when you put your cracker in the dip twice because you are hungry.
12:45 PM on 07/02/2010
Only had to read the headline. It's called a "Depression" and "Your corporate masters and Bank of Congress have been lying to you."
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WIpatriot
I've seen enough to make me Progressive
08:50 AM on 07/02/2010
"So what exactly is a double-dip recession?"

It's a dead cat bounce (with deference to my feline friends.)

The GDP measurement of our economy was temporarily boosted by inventory replenishment, a short-term road-repair stimulus and continued financial shenanigans by Wall Street. GDP is a false measurememt of economic health.
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03:43 AM on 07/02/2010
There are a lot of complex alogorhythms, but the short of it is that you tea-bagged twice while you sleep.

The first time is by some fat dude from Wall St. and the second is by your Congressman.
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cef911f1
Dog loving, liberal old white guy living in SC.
07:25 AM on 07/02/2010
Excellent analogy..
02:49 AM on 07/02/2010
Simple answer: what we're in..... except it's more like a DEPRESSION, not a mere 'recession'.... but with the bogus economic stats coming out over the past 30 years you really can't tell what is really happening or where we are... REAL unemployment is 22% - compare that to 23.6% in 1932.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Low Prices are Good
02:11 AM on 07/02/2010
”To explain business cycles and how they work, the boom is the problem, the bust is the solution. The boom is like an artificial high, like you take heroin, you shoot up and it makes you feel good, it’s artificial. You want to get healthy, then you have to go to rehab, detox. You go cold turkey, you go though withdrawal. The withdrawal symptoms are very unpleasant, painful but it’s necessary if you want to remove these toxins from your system and become healthy again. The same thing happens in the business cycle, when you have a central bank, same as the 1920s(cause of great depression) , you have monetary policy that is too inflationary and you create an asset bubble, you create mal-investments. And the mal-investments need to be purged. The economy needs to be rebalanced” - Peter Schiff
Mildmannered
"Be excellent to each other"
12:25 AM on 07/02/2010
Businesses are not hiring, banks are not lending to small businesses, a double-dip recession (or a Lost Decade) will mean continued reduced tax receipts for the government(s) (my tax payments are 1/5 of what they were three years ago). Inflation is not a risk. Deflation is a significant risk. What is needed is a large federal stimulus package which helps the states and local governments from making further draconian cuts to basic services (education, police, fire, public works) and an infrastructure building/rebuilding program which makes the economy more efficient.The last federal stimulus package actually did prevent the recession from being worse (see the CBO report).
10:41 PM on 07/01/2010
What is a "double dip recession"? The wrong name for what's going on in this country.