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Rand Paul's Campaign Calls Underground Fence Idea A Website Mistake, Directly Contradicting Video Evidence

First Posted: 07/02/10 02:00 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:55 PM ET

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A spokesman for Rand Paul clarified on Friday that while his campaign website has long touted a proposal to build an underground electrical fence along the border to deter immigration, the Kentucky Republican Senate candidate himself has never endorsed that specific idea.

Jesse Benton, who declined repeated attempts for comment from the Huffington Post (which first reported on Paul's plan for an underground electrical fence), told the Plum Line's Greg Sargent that Paul actually doesn't believe a fence should be built below ground. Rather, the fence he envisions would be constructed above ground while still carrying an electric current, explained Benton.

"That's a stupid word that was put in by whoever is writing for our Web site and we need to remove it," Benton said, of the "underground" description.

At best, this explanation pins the blame on an underling (in this case, some unknown Web hand). At worst, it's a lie. Certainly it's misleading. Paul has been videotaped on multiple occasions talking very specifically about building a fence underground. In May 2009, he spoke about the need to bury the fence because anything constructed above ground would create a Berlin-Wall-like symbolism that might offend Hispanic voters.

"I don't like the symbolism of a 15-foot fence going the whole border. It's extraordinarily expensive, and it reminds me of the Berlin Wall which was built to keep people in and from fleeing to the West," Paul said. "I think you could actually put in an electronic fence under the whole border for probably $10 or $15 million, which sounds like a lot to us but that's peanuts. And you could probably have helicopter stations in maybe five different locations, and I think you could have any breach of the border could be stopped at any point and we send them back."

Then there was the infamous interview he gave to a Russian television station shortly after winning the Republican Senate primary, in which he was asked the following question: "You also talk about an underground electrical fence, what is that about?"

Paul didn't dismiss the questioner as ill-informed about his position. Instead, he said:

"I think that would be one way. And I've recently been talking also more about satellite observation... so I think you can also monitor your border with satellites and then you have to have some means of intercepting people who come in illegally. You can have helicopter stations positioned every couple hundred miles."

Clearly, Paul believed at one point in time that an underground electric fence was cost-effective, more humane to Hispanics and a valuable way to stem illegal immigration. That his campaign distanced himself from the idea is a reflection of just how politically unpalatable it is, even in a conservative non-border state like Kentucky.

Jesse Benton, not surprisingly, did not immediately return a request for comment.

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A spokesman for Rand Paul clarified on Friday that while his campaign website has long touted a proposal to build an underground electrical fence along the border to deter immigration, the Kentucky Re...
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realitytrumpsbull 11:54 PM on 07/02/2010
You build a fence, the other guy buys wire cutters. You work directly with the Mexican government to arrange a bona-fide deportation/repatriation accord, where they actually help come and get their citizens, maybe that's the end of the illegal immigration problem. This whole thing is a problem, but it's a problem that is probably really only going to be solved when politicians 'turn off the magnet', support  Read More...
11:39 AM on 07/04/2010
Rand Paul is comedy gold.
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ebanks84
Grandma knows best!
02:33 PM on 07/03/2010
Oh, an electrical fence ABOVE ground? So now he wants to electrocute people? Is this man for real or what? There are no words I can use to describe his cold unsympathetic views on humankind period. I gotta go before he totally pi.sses me off :(.
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mancoff
03:43 PM on 07/03/2010
They could build a fance underground and Rand could walk under it no matter how deep under it was.....he could stand of his toes and still walk under a snakes belly..........Is he really Paul Rands son, no way....................I notice his Father remains strangely quiet and wouldn't we all if we had to lay claim to being his parent.
Cantinflas
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05:01 PM on 07/03/2010
He's Ron Paul's son. I don't know if he was named after Ayn Rand or not.
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pat2 718
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12:19 PM on 07/03/2010
Now that we know he's talking about a shock fence, a possibility that was discounted in part because it's such a sick idea, watch for what will happen next: Backers of Paul who previously would have agreed that a shock was a sick idea will begin rationalize that it's ok. After all, Paul said so.

Rather like the Milgram experiments...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
12:16 PM on 07/03/2010
No day is complete without a completely bogus article about Rand Paul that sends the teenyboppers into a tizzy
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mancoff
05:10 PM on 07/03/2010
really, perhaps you could explain where the "bogus" is in this article. Explain with the facts, of course.........
Cantinflas
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11:26 AM on 07/03/2010
Palin, Paul, Steele, Bachmann, Angle

Is there a pattern here?
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mancoff
03:41 PM on 07/03/2010
Yep, it's called the "crazy quilt pattern"...................Hopefully the mothership will arrive soon to take them back to the Planet they came from, unless of course that Planet dropped them off here to get rid of them also.
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ChiGuy
Just an earthbound misfit, I
11:13 AM on 07/03/2010
Aw c'mon.
Just let the guy prattle on about this stuff. He's sinking his own campaign.
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10:54 AM on 07/03/2010
"the chit doesn't fall far from the bat"
10:47 AM on 07/03/2010
From Rand Paul's website...

http://www.randpaul2010.com/issues/h-p/illegal-immigration/
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Pennsanic
Be nice to the US or we'll bring you democracy too
10:40 AM on 07/03/2010
Angle, too, is trying to scrub the loony ideas from her site. I'm seeing a pattern here!
10:47 AM on 07/03/2010
And I hope we are working equally as hard to make sure their lies are visible their contradictions noted and their phoniness exposed.

With our national attention span of about two weeks scrubbing and image and creating a new one is actually possible and all too often successful.
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mancoff
05:16 PM on 07/03/2010
Yep, all tea baggers spend alot of time scrubbing their sites from previous statements and positions and no time at all going on any interviews that aren't in their corner and ensure them only favorable press and soft ball, pre screened questions. Does that tell you something about the quality, morality and truthfulness of these "far right" 19th century thinking of these tea bag candidates. As for their followers, anyone who staples tea bags all over their heads, straps a gun to their waist to go to a rally and carries misinformed, unfactual, mispelled, fear monering, hate mongering, signs is probably as dangerous to the very fiber of this country as any terrorist or spy could be.
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10:39 AM on 07/03/2010
Tea party candidates seem to be getting a lot of experience in back-pedaling these days...
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mancoff
03:55 PM on 07/03/2010
Thats is what so scary about them. They simply start back pedaling, changing their stories, whinning that are being misquoted. You know dam well if elected they will go back to pushing their original whacko ideas. A leopard does not change its spots. These tea bag candidates are a smary bunch not only cowardly they are dishonest and bigoted. They would take this country back, for sure, back a hundred years, that is.
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Apathy Man
he who laughts last really didn't get the joke
09:49 PM on 07/03/2010
What's really scary is that their supporters don't seem to have any problem with the many lies they tell. It's party before country for them.
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ranchero42
Taunt him with the licence of ink...
10:36 AM on 07/03/2010
Time to start taking bets: can this loosey-goosey candidacy transition into a straight-arrow incumbency?

Oh, wait; this is Kentucky politics we're talking about after all.
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mancoff
10:25 AM on 07/03/2010
Rand Paul is a bad joke. The tea party is comedy theatre and Sarah Palin is a republican puppet. The whole republican party is a circus and the public is being dumbed down and duped by the likes of Beck, Limbaugh and snarky right wing politicians. As for Fox news viewers who believe everything they hear on Fox (the mini republican headquarters): to quote P.T.Barnum, "theres a sucker born every minute."
Cantinflas
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05:04 PM on 07/03/2010
Unfortunately, those suckers vote. Karl Rove is supposed to have said, "Keep 'em dumb so they'll keep voting republican," or words to that effect.
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10:18 AM on 07/03/2010
If he is speaking about an electric fence for monitoring, like showing the location of people breaching the fence by crossing over. Then that is actually pretty cool. If he is talking about an electric fence to zap people for crossing, then that is just sick. Not for treating people like cattle.
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10:19 AM on 07/03/2010
I am referring to the underground fence idea.
Cantinflas
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10:28 AM on 07/03/2010
So, every time a coyote or some other animal crosses the fence the Border Patrol will scramble a helicopter?
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GreenCanadian
is mixing the new record
09:57 AM on 07/03/2010
I think that this was the real expenditure in the Palin Campaign, they say the bill was for her clothes... but it was really for her avatar "Dr. Rand Paul". This way she can say something moronic, and "Dr. Rand Paul" can back it up. It's the same strategy that Cheney used when he planted a story in the foreign press, and then quoted it as evidence for the need to invade Iraq.
09:54 AM on 07/03/2010
You're missing the point. Mexicans need jobs. Americans like tacos. To build the fence we have to put in roads every few miles. If we build a boardwalk along the fence, the mexicans can patch into the power running through the fence, setup taco stands, and then americans can drive down the new roads and hike the Taco Trail and enjoy the fine taco stand cuisine of Mexico. Now they have work, we have full tummies and we're all happy. See, the Teabaggers have it all figured out, thanks to Randy Paul.
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Rassie
What's the path to hell paved with?
10:12 AM on 07/03/2010
Sheer Genius! America deserves the "Taco Trail!"
Cantinflas
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10:26 AM on 07/03/2010
Fanned

"Taco Trail" I love it. Who knows, Mark Sanford may find that he prefers it over the Appalachian Trail. At least it's closer to Argentina.