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Daniel Patrick Moynihan Warned Nixon To Act On Global Warming, New Documents Show

07/ 2/10 11:47 PM ET   AP

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Daniel Patrick Moynihan speaks with President Richard Nixon, Sept. 8, 1970.

YORBA LINDA, Calif. — Documents released Friday by the Nixon Presidential Library show members of President Richard Nixon's inner circle discussing the possibilities of global warming more than 30 years ago.

Adviser Daniel Patrick Moynihan, notable as a Democrat in the administration, urged the administration to initiate a worldwide system of monitoring carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, decades before the issue of global warming came to the public's attention.

There is widespread agreement that carbon dioxide content will rise 25 percent by 2000, Moynihan wrote in a September 1969 memo.

"This could increase the average temperature near the earth's surface by 7 degrees Fahrenheit," he wrote. "This in turn could raise the level of the sea by 10 feet. Goodbye New York. Goodbye Washington, for that matter."

Moynihan was Nixon's counselor for urban affairs from January 1969 – when Nixon began his presidency – to December 1970. He later served as the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations before New York voters elected him to the Senate.

Moynihan received a response in a January 26, 1970 memo from Hubert Heffner, deputy director of the administration's Office of Science and Technology. Heffner acknowledged that atmospheric temperature rise was an issue that should be looked at.

"The more I get into this, the more I find two classes of doom-sayers, with, of course, the silent majority in between," he wrote. "One group says we will turn into snow-tripping mastodons because of the atmospheric dust and the other says we will have to grow gills to survive the increased ocean level due to the temperature rise."

Heffner wrote that he would ask the Environmental Science Services Administration to look further into the issue.

Nixon established the Environmental Protection Agency and had an interest in the environment. In one memo, Moynihan noted his approval of the first Earth Day, to be held April 22, 1970.

"Clearly this is an opportunity to get the President usefully and positively involved with a large student movement," he wrote to John Ehrlichman, Nixon's adviser on domestic affairs.

Moynihan's memo was among 100,000 documents released Friday.

The documents also include about 5,000 pages of now unclassified national security records on the 1973 Arab-Israeli War, correspondence between Nixon and then-British Prime Minister Edward Heath and back-channel Soviet-Israeli relations.

The new material is part of the ongoing effort to move Nixon's archives from Washington to Yorba Linda since the library came under federal control in 2007.

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Online: http://nixonlibrary.gov/virtuallibrary/documents/jul10.php

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Midnight Toker
02:34 PM on 07/05/2010
sure is hot out..

i can feel it coming right off the CO2!
02:11 PM on 07/05/2010
Here is the simple physical problem for those Al Gore supporters in love with science.

You have 5 thermometers in your house. They show readings 75, 76, 80, 74 and 77 degrees.
What is the average temperature in your house based on these 5 readings?

The only scientific answer is: No idea.
It all depends on the points where 5 thermometers installed, how area temperature, which can not be measured directly, was calculated from the data of the nearest thermometer. And after that different arbitrary algorithms will be applied and every algorithm will give the different number as average.
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ScapeGoat
Facts are stubborn things. Science Rocks!
03:19 PM on 07/06/2010
GenosseJOe:

Did you go to school stupid?

Yea, GenosseJoe came out the same way.

Trying to reason with this dolt is like trying to reason with a pin head.

Now I get it, he is a pin head.
leftcoastindy
Where did I put my MOJO
12:08 PM on 07/13/2010
Yes this is way to difficult for a climatologist to figure out. Maybe they could get Rush to help them interpret these readings.

You do realize a climatologist gets a minimum of 8 years of school followed by another 5 to 10 years in the field before they try to figure this out, right? Its not like they needed 3 years to get through 7th grade as you appear to have needed.
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dragonmaster
07:57 AM on 07/05/2010
There was a time some 40 years ago that the republican party still believed in science- over the last 4 decades the GOP has been taken over by religious zealots and astrologers, and fake scientists employed by greedy fossil fuel interests who only care about extracting the last drop of oil from the sea and ground- while burning coal till whats left of humanity is living around the poles.
02:03 PM on 07/05/2010
I believe in science. Science shows that since 2000 Earth had entered the natural cooling cycle, which has nothing to do with the industrial activities of the mankind. It is not the first cooling cycle and the preceding warming cycle also happened multiple times over the life of the planet.

Scientists are also in a consensus that it is easier to grow food when it is warmer, than when it is colder. That is why warmer periods were beneficial for the human populations while colder periods had caused massive exoduses and wars for the shrinking agricultural or grassland ()for nomads) territories.

Do you believe in science?

BTW, as long as you mentioned fossil fuel, you should know that science insists that they were deposited during the times, when Earth climate was much warmer, yet there were no cars and no humans around.
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dragonmaster
03:17 PM on 07/05/2010
If you really believed in Science- then how dare you give a reply filled with such inane junk as you have. Cooling cycle? Says who- what legitimate scientific organization would agree with you- please tell me.

I wait here in Connecticut- waiting to see the September of the near future - when the north pole arctic is ice free in the summer- and you can sit there and listen to Rush Limbaugh.
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ScapeGoat
Facts are stubborn things. Science Rocks!
03:17 PM on 07/06/2010
That explains why the green land glaciers are melting, why glacier national park has almost no glaciers left , why the Arctic ice is melting.

Because it is getting cooler!!

Genius, I tell ya, Pure genius! (That is Sarcasm)
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Midnight Toker
04:15 PM on 07/04/2010
Relative Forcing Effects of Various Gases

Some greenhouse gases are more potent in affecting global temperatures than are others. As a result, comparable increases in the concentrations of different greenhouse gases can have vastly different heat-trapping effects. Among those identified, carbon dioxide is among the least effective as a greenhouse gas.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/1605/archive/gg97rpt/chap1.html
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dragonmaster
03:40 PM on 07/04/2010
RM Nixon was to the left of B. Obama

Seems funny after 40 years, there are those out there still in denial.
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Midnight Toker
03:22 PM on 07/04/2010
everyone knows..

that a trace amount of a trace atmospheric gas..

that absorbs in the impotent middle infrared spectrum..

is driving the human race to extinction!
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dragonmaster
03:19 PM on 07/05/2010
tell the melting arctic your story

the ice is melting under your a$$.
03:40 PM on 07/05/2010
Do not worry too much about artic ice - it is currently growing.
maybe it is because ice can not read and do not know that Al Gore had ordered it to shrink.

Check this link out: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100403185127AAukM54
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dragonmaster
03:24 PM on 07/05/2010
Water temperatures on the Connecticut shoreline are 70 degrees- where they should be in early August-

last year was the same-by mid August temperatures in Long Island & Block Island Sound where close to 80- a record.

Also record warm water in the Gulf of Maine-low 70s- where is all the heat going that is in the atmosphere from too much CO2? Bingo- the Oceans-----
03:41 PM on 07/05/2010
CO2 is food for the trees and other vegetation on earth. Why do you want to starve the trees?
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Midnight Toker
03:13 PM on 07/04/2010
''Part 1: We emit billions of tons of CO2 into the air and, lo and behold, there is more CO2 in the air.''

yet the atmosphere is no heavier for it hmm..
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Midnight Toker
08:40 AM on 07/04/2010
well this very ricely..

puts things in perspective:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYLmLW4k4aI&feature=player_embedded
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dragonmaster
03:20 PM on 07/05/2010
this lady- here we go again- what are her credentials?

What has she produced in research? Please- give me more brains then the silly junk you try and have the uninformed believe.
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Midnight Toker
06:26 PM on 07/05/2010
is jim hansen good enough for you?

here he is telling rob riess that nyc should be under water:

While doing research 12 or 13 years ago, I met Jim Hansen, the scientist who in 1988 predicted the greenhouse effect before Congress. I went over to the window with him and looked out on Broadway in New York City and said, "If what you're saying about the greenhouse effect is true, is anything going to look different down there in 20 years?" He looked for a while and was quiet and didn't say anything for a couple seconds. Then he said, "Well, there will be more traffic." I, of course, didn't think he heard the question right. Then he explained, "The West Side Highway [which runs along the Hudson River] will be under water. And there will be tape across the windows across the street because of high winds. And the same birds won't be there. The trees in the median strip will change." Then he said, "There will be more police cars." Why? "Well, you know what happens to crime when the heat goes up."

http://dir.salon.com/books/int/2001/10/23/weather/print.html
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08:20 AM on 07/04/2010
Even the conservative Republican Nixon was warned about climate change. And now the Republicans following him are in denial of the fact. So why pay any attention to them?
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SFTor
01:52 AM on 07/04/2010
It appears that in the released papers, Mr. Moynihan was predicting the submersion of New York City and Washington DC some time early in the 21st century. I suppose that is part of the story too.
leftcoastindy
Where did I put my MOJO
12:15 PM on 07/13/2010
Lets talk about this prediction again in about 20 years after we see if he was right.
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SFTor
01:49 AM on 07/04/2010
I see the Aztecs and Mayans mentioned several places. The analogy that is made is false.

The correct analogy is that just as they thought solar eclipses was their fault (not enough sacrifice,) we think that global warming is our fault (not enough sacrifice.)

The Aztecs were using human sacrifice for population control (2,000 people were sacrificed at the consecration of the Great Pyramid of Tenochtitan.) We propose population control to combat global warming.

See? We're Aztecs in a solar eclipse, and we don't even know it.
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Midnight Toker
04:48 PM on 07/03/2010
UN Climate Body To Probe Himalayan Glacier Forecast
January 18, 2010
The UN's panel of climate scientists said on Monday it would probe claims it's doomsday prediction for the disappearance of Himalayan glaciers was wrong. The new controversy focuses on a reference in the IPCC's landmark Fourth Assessment Report in 2007 that said the probability of glaciers in the Himalayas "disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps sooner is very high." In an interview with AFP, a leading glaciologist who contributed to the Fourth Assessment Report described the mistake as huge AND SAID HE HAD NOTIFIED HIS COLLEAGUES OF IT in late 2006, months before publication AND YEARS BEFORE COPENHAGEN. http://www.physorg.com/news183047679.html
12:50 AM on 07/04/2010
The important thing is not to get sucked into a debate with naysayers, but to simply tell the facts and move on. People across the country need to start letting Congress know in a clear loud voice that they want action on the Climate Change bill.
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StephenBP
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04:41 PM on 07/03/2010
The denialist smear technique is so useful for them. While the victims of the stolen emails known as climate gate have been exonerated, the denialists continue to smear them. No matter that there is no matter to their denialist claims. They just rale on, months out of date. The 'trials' are over, the accused victims of theft have been deemed innocent by their superiors, and yet the swiftboating of climatologists continues. Quite a tactic. Climatologists' emails are stolen, which in the first place, should dis-allow the emails as evidence of anything but denialist theivery..thousands of emails reveal a few snarky comments which, when taken out of context, appear damning..all those thousands of stolen emails show no evidence of a conspiracy of climatologists... but the mobs of denialists drone on and on and on...

dirty tricks... a right wing specialty...
10:10 PM on 07/03/2010
Global warmists deliberately destroyed data to avoid scientific peer review and peer re-tracing the model. Peer review and peer re-testing is at the core of the modern science since Galileo.

Such behavior makes their results totally non-scientific. They could as well claim that they had made a perpetum-mobile.

So, if their superior had decided to keep the clowns, who get grants of taxpayer's money for totally unscientific, but extremely religious worshiping the St.Gore, it does not mean that rabbits from their hat have any scientific value.
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ScapeGoat
Facts are stubborn things. Science Rocks!
08:22 AM on 07/04/2010
Part 1:
When we last left the Competitive Enterprise Institute, they were going ape for the Scopes climate trial that the Chamber of Commerce had proposed for the EPA. The deniers just stick their fingers and their ears and scream whenever they hear any science-based finding that GHGs harm human health. What else can you expect from a group that which actually runs ad campaigns aimed at destroying the climate for centuries?

Now CEI is trying to go after the UK temperature record because the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) at the University of East Anglia, used by the Hadley/Met Office, has abandoned some bad data. Climate Science Watch (CSW) has the background, “CEI global warming denialists try another gambit seeking to derail EPA endangerment finding.“ Ironically, as Prof. Phil Jones, CRU’s Director explains below:

Almost all the data we have in the CRU archive is exactly the same as in the Global Historical Climatology Network (GHCN) archive used by the NOAA National Climatic Data Center [see here and here]. The original raw data are not “lost.”
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ScapeGoat
Facts are stubborn things. Science Rocks!
08:27 AM on 07/04/2010
Part 2:
small amount of data, which could be easily reconstructed if one wanted to waste a lot of time, was abandoned for reasons such as the following:

Station series for sites that in the 1980s we deemed then to be affected by either urban biases or by numerous site moves, that were either not correctable or not worth doing as there were other series in the region.

Yes, for years the deniers have been claiming that the temperature record is corrupted by the urban heat island effect or bad locations. In fact, we know that it isn’t (see Must-read NOAA paper smacks down the deniers: Q: “Is there any question that surface temperatures in the United States have been rising rapidly during the last 50 years?” A: “None at all.”) But when CRU actually tries to abandon such data, the deniers cry foul.

CEI: Can’t live with them, future generations could live with out them.

To compound the irony, the only meaningful hole in the Hadley data is the “hole in the Arctic,” as RealClimate puts it (see here). The Hadley record simply excludes the part of the world “just where recent warming has been greatest.” Because of that gap, the Hadley data almost certainly underestimates recent warming.
12:51 AM on 07/04/2010
The important thing is not to get sucked into a debate with naysayers, but to simply tell the facts and move on. People across the country need to start letting Congress know in a clear loud voice that they want action on the Climate Change bill.
03:57 PM on 07/03/2010
It is useless and counterproductive to argue or engage the climate change deniers. They are only posting here to rile us up and distract us from our concern or any serious discussion.. Deniers have no interest in facts or scientific evidence. When confronted by such information, they resort to insults, innuendos and fox talking points. It's all they have.
Our mistake is engaging with them because it is hard to believe they will not respond to facts the way we do. But they won't - most likely cause the ones here are motivated by political and monetary (paid for) gain. Best to ignore them..
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DrBlizzardo
04:59 PM on 07/03/2010
Sadly, they use the same tactics, and exhibit the same aversion to fact, as their counterparts in the Intelligent Design and Creationist movement. Perhaps that is because they are largely the same under-educated and over-opinionated group of loud-mouthed louts.
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Midnight Toker
06:50 PM on 07/03/2010
you're a dr..

is O=^12C=O as ir-active as O=^13C=O or O=^14C=O..

or even H=O=H and why would that even matter? just curious..
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05:20 PM on 07/03/2010
Well, it is somewhat therapeutic to satirize them for their Freudian slips, logical blunders, baseless presumptions and general clumsiness. I agree about otherwise ignoring them and wonder what would happen if threads were treated as though the interruptions did not exist. I would like to see what people can come up with for solutions, as they are uniquely made possible by this format.
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DrBlizzardo
05:25 PM on 07/03/2010
Solutions instead bumper-sticker philosophy? For that suggestion alone you are fanned!
02:25 AM on 07/04/2010
I believe it would work just fine to ignore them. They so love attention. If they don't get any they will first escalate their their nastiness, and if still not noticed, then they will go away. There just won't be any joy here for them. I think we should experiment and see what happens.
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02:02 PM on 07/03/2010
There is no global warming. Metaphysicians believe the earth, being alive,is just expanding.
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StephenBP
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02:29 PM on 07/03/2010
Gotta run out and get me some liquid Zen and burgers so I can celebrate my country's independence from troublesome English aristocrats! Yea Haw!
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03:44 PM on 07/03/2010
I am afraid none of us is truly independent but party on love:)
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DrBlizzardo
05:00 PM on 07/03/2010
Yeah, I got yer expanding earth, RIGHT HERE.
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05:10 PM on 07/03/2010
Ha, and a perverse sense of "technically correct science" humor as well.