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Rev Jeffrey John: Church Of England's First Gay Bishop?

ROBERT BARR   07/ 6/10 12:01 PM ET   AP

Rev Jeffrey John

LONDON — The Church of England may be on the verge of promoting a gay priest to bishop, a step that would widen the split over sexuality in the global Anglican Communion.

If that happens, it would appear to be a significant turnaround for Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, spiritual leader of the Church of England and the world's Anglicans, who recently imposed sanctions on the U.S. Episcopal Church for electing a lesbian bishop.

According to newspaper reports, Williams is prepared to back the elevation of the Very Rev. Jeffrey John, who withdrew seven years ago from an appointment as a suffragan (assistant) bishop in the face of a heated controversy about his homosexuality. Williams' office will not comment.

"I think the strength of the opposition is much weaker this time," Rev. Canon Giles Goddard, the chairman of Inclusive Church, said Tuesday. His group was founded by people disappointed by John's failure to become a bishop in 2003.

John, who is now dean of St. Albans Cathedral, might be seen as a more acceptable candidate than the U.S. bishop because he has declared he is celibate – and therefore not in violation of church teaching.

A Crown Nominations Commission, composed of 14 Church of England representatives, including Williams, met in secret Monday and Tuesday to choose two nominees to become bishop of Southwark diocese, the half of London that lies south of the River Thames.

Prime Minister David Cameron, who has spoken strongly in favor of equal rights for gays, will have the final decision about whom to recommend to Queen Elizabeth II, who will make the formal appointment. Southwark diocese says a decision may not be announced before October.

Williams has said nothing publicly about the issue.

After the Episcopal Church elected Mary Douglas Glasspool as an assistant bishop in Los Angeles, Williams moved to bar Episcopalians from representing the Anglican Communion on international ecumenical bodies. "This is simply to confirm what the Communion as a whole has come to regard as the acceptable limits of diversity in its practice," Williams said in a letter to the global church.

John, who is 57, has claimed celibacy despite being in a civil partnership. Neither Glasspool nor V. Gene Robinson, the Episcopal bishop of New Hampshire, has claimed to be celibate.

Rev. Paul Dawson, media officer for Reform, an evangelical grouping, objects that John has defended sexual gay relationships that are "Permanent, Faithful, Stable," as the title of one of John's books puts it.

"If you have a bishop who is effectively teaching what is against the Bible's clear teaching and what the Church of England says is its doctrinal position, if you have someone at the highest level saying this is a 'blessing,' this is a 'gift,' that raises all sorts of questions for the average churchgoer," Dawson said.

Appointments to bishoprics are the battleground in the Anglican debate about the role of women and homosexuals in the church.

The Church of England's governing General Synod will resume its debate about permitting female bishops this weekend as it continues trying to mollify conservatives who fought against making women priests and now resist what appears to be general support for women as bishops.

Anglican agonizing over sexuality has dogged Williams since 2002 when he became spiritual leader of the Church of England and of the Anglican Communion.

When John was nominated become bishop of Reading, Williams is believed to have yielded to conservative opposition.

"He cracked after two months of pressure and asked John to withdraw his name, establishing his reputation as a man who could be bullied," religion commentator Andrew Brown wrote in The Guardian newspaper.

"If he is beaten again, he is finished. If he wins, he will have shot the rapids and the Church of England will finally emerge from the turbulence of the last 30 years with a fairly clear and fairly coherent doctrine about sex."

The prime minister, in an interview with the gay magazine Attitude early this year, said his Conservative Party supported equal rights "whether you are male, female, black, white, urban, rural, straight or gay." The church, Cameron said, "has to do some of the things that the Conservative Party has been through – sorting this issue out and recognizing that full equality is a bottom line full essential."

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Hysterian68
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05:28 AM on 07/20/2010
I hope the popish gay bashers and the nutcakes they have in their right-wing traditionalist camp will spare us their remonstrances against Dean John's elevation to the office of bishop. Since, at least half of their own clergy including the bishops and perhaps the pope himself, are themselves celibate CLOSET gays.

I am so tired of the hypocrisey and prevarication from these Roman Rollers leading lives as whitened sepulchres. Any man who gets all dressed up in purple silk, ermine capes, wears lace dresses, and puts on jeweled pointey hats---like some Harlem he/queen who thinks he's Grace Jones, or all decked out like some Park Avenue diva, is in no position to be casting any aspersions against bishop -to-be Johns.
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wilray
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11:36 PM on 07/06/2010
Will he be the Church of England's first gay bishop? I'm thinking not. Although he may be the first openly gay bishop.
03:58 PM on 07/28/2010
Precisely!!
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Jdaddy1951
07:46 PM on 07/06/2010
The Archbishop of Canterbury treated the Presiding Bishop of the U.S. Episcopalian Church (apparently because of the U.S. church's liberal attitudes about gay people and other issues) in a disgraceful manner recently. I would be very surprised if he has the courage to promote Rev. Jeffrey Johns, no matter how deserving Johns may be.

U.S. Episcopalians are very offended by the snubs that Rev. Katherine Jefferts-Schori received from the Anglican church when she was in England last June --- she was not allowed to wear her mitre and was ordered to provide documentation of her ordination, which received international news coverage when it occurred just a few years ago --- and are proud of her for the good grace and dignity in which she responded.

If the Anglicans can treat a heterosexual, internationally-known church leader who is part of the Anglican communion this way, how can we expect them to treat a gay bishop better than that?
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deluk
hot mess...
06:39 AM on 07/07/2010
You're missing the point, the Archbishop of Canterbury has to appease all the worlds Anglicans including the African bishops.
07:57 AM on 07/07/2010
No, you're missing the point. Let the progressive, modern, relevant world please tell all those frigging, primitive African bishops to go take a flying f....ck. Thank you.
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Jdaddy1951
09:16 AM on 07/07/2010
At the expense of offending most of the U.S. Episcopalians? That doesn't seem very Christian of the Archbishop, does it?
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backekuchen
03:10 PM on 07/17/2010
In the case of our Presiding Bishop Katharine Jeffers Schori, the issue was the fact that she is a woman bishop. This is another issue the Church of England is wrestling with, the ordination of women as bishops. It did pass, but must be further ruled on. There probably won't be woman bishop in England until 2012 or 2014.

A few years ago there was controversy over the fact that the Archbishop of Canterbury did not attend the consecration of a woman as Archbishop of Uppsala (Church of Sweden--Lutheran).
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Jdaddy1951
01:20 AM on 07/18/2010
Still no reason to snub Presiding Bishop Katherine.
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05:56 PM on 07/06/2010
England's First Gay Bishop? Probably not. But if you mean documented? Maybe
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wilray
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11:38 PM on 07/06/2010
I posted then took a look down here. The exact same sentiments.
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11:38 AM on 07/07/2010
I am convinced the Church's celibacy rules came about by direction from a now Eastern Roman Empire that created the Roman Church from various extant Christian sources for a more perfect ecclesiastic engine to control the people of it's Empire. Can't have legal descendants to form an ancestral aristocracy to compete,though, can we? Power, not morals, was involved!

History of Sacerdotal Celibacy
(1867)
Henry Charles Lea
University Books 1966

. "The perpetual admission of self-made men into the hierarchy, which distinguished the Church even in times of the most aristocratic feudalism, was for ages the only practical recognition of the equality of man. If, therefore, the Church was to attain the theocratic supremacy which was the object of its ambition, sacerdotal celibacy was not only an element necessary to its success, but a safeguard against the development of an hereditary ecclesiastical aristocracy which might have proved fatal to intellectual and social progress."

http://www.pinn.net/~sunshine/book-sum/lea_sac.html”
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05:41 PM on 07/06/2010
Philip Seymour Hoffman is a gay priest?
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usNetizen
11:07 PM on 07/06/2010
lol. i thought the same thing .
02:39 AM on 07/07/2010
It wouldn't be a huge career switch, from myth-making to myth-making.
04:57 PM on 07/06/2010
I'd be willing to bet the farm he's not, All jokes aside, The church (all churches) need to teach right and wrong, not compliance,by doing this they are condoning SIN!
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οὐκ ἔστιν θεός
09:50 PM on 07/17/2010
I agree with you. All churches certainly do need to teach repentance of the sins of heterosexism and homomisos.

It is a true blessing that all around the world Gay individuals, couples and ministers are being embraced by their families, neighbors, coworkers and faith communities.

A critical reevaluation of the Scriptures in the academy as well as church and home Bible studies is providing surprisingly fruitful opportunities for straight and Gay Christians. Together, they are arriving at unprecedented levels of understanding and acceptance of each other in light of their common faith.
04:40 PM on 07/06/2010
Does a persons sexuality really matter if they are celibate?
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Dan Stewart
04:17 PM on 07/06/2010
Uh...according to this, shouldn't this man be put to death?

Leviticus 20:13:

(American Standard Version) "And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

I guess even these guy's don't believe their own Bible. Actually, it's somewhat comforting.
04:27 PM on 07/06/2010
I can see Phillip Seymour Hoffman play him in the movie!
04:58 PM on 07/06/2010
Thank you for the quote. I say more old Testament justice.
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Grada3784
God is a Parent, not an abuser.
06:39 PM on 07/06/2010
Yeah, let's see that Christian charity in action.
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οὐκ ἔστιν θεός
10:08 PM on 07/17/2010
I agree with you. All churches certainly do need to teach repentance of the sins of heterosexism and homomisos.

It is a true blessing that all around the world Gay individuals, couples and ministers are being embraced by their families, neighbors, coworkers and faith communities.

A critical reevaluation of the Scriptures in the academy as well as in church and home Bible studies is providing surprisingly fruitful opportunities for straight and Gay Christians. Together, they are arriving at unprecedented levels of understanding and acceptance of each other in light of their common faith.

If you want Old Testament justice, I hope you experience it in abundance.

However, since Rev. Jeffrey John is a Christian he can claim with all his sisters and brothers in Christ, the comfort of Romans 8:2, “For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.”

He, and all true Christians must humbly rejoice knowing the security in Romans 8:31, “What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?”
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ThaGovna
I walk on water, eat bullets, and poop ice cream.
03:31 PM on 07/06/2010
Nope. Just the first openly gay one.
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yerachm
03:19 PM on 07/06/2010
Will he be England's first gay bishop? I doubt it.

By the way, John Ramsey001, the title "Defender of the Faith" was bestowed on Henry the Eighth by the pope in gratitude for Henry's opposition to Lutheran reform. So it's a Roman Catholic honor, not from the C of E. Of course it was Henry who later created the C of E so that he could obtain a divorce.
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09:45 AM on 07/07/2010
From wiki:
"In her capacity as queen of the United Kingdom, Elizabeth II is styled, "Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith". The title "Defender of the Faith" reflects the Sovereign's position as the Supreme Governor of the Church of England, who is thus formally superior to the Archbishop of Canterbury. The original Latin phrase - Fidei Defensor - is referred to on all current British coins by the abbreviations, F D or FID DEF. This reference was first added to British coins in 1714, during the reign of King George I. The decision of the Royal Mint to omit reference to the phrase (and other parts of the monarch's style) from the pre-decimal British so called "Godless Florin" in 1849, caused such a scandal that the coin was replaced.[2]"
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John Ramsey001
02:44 PM on 07/06/2010
What a shame. Queen Elizabeth should defend the FAITH. After all, one of her titles is Defender of the Faith.
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shatner99
02:42 PM on 07/06/2010
Is it really him from the new movie
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shatner99
02:39 PM on 07/06/2010
It's uncanny!
02:38 PM on 07/06/2010
Ha conservative heads are going to explode. Good luck to him and I hope he does get it.
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shatner99
02:38 PM on 07/06/2010
I didn't know PT Anderson was making a movie about the Church of England. He's using Philip Seymour Hoffman again!
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Hirnlego
02:54 PM on 07/06/2010
:)