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The Perils Of Polling D.C. Elites


First Posted: 07/21/10 04:09 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:10 PM ET

On Monday, Politico published two new surveys, conducted by pollster Mark Penn, that compare the views of ordinary Americans to “elites in Washington.” The story concluded that D.C.’s elites “have a strikingly divergent outlook from the rest of the nation,”:

Obama is far more popular while Palin, the former Alaska governor, is considerably less so. To the vast majority of D.C. elites, the tea party movement is a fad. The rest of the nation is less certain, however, with many viewing it as a potentially viable third party in the future.

The survey also reveals to a surprising degree how those involved in the policymaking and the political process tend to have a much rosier view of the economy than does the rest of the nation -- and, in some cases, dramatically different impressions of leading officeholders, political forces and priorities for governing.

But do D.C.’s elites have different views because of their proximity to power? Or are those differences inherent in the demographics used by this survey to define the “D.C. elite”?; Let’s take a closer look.

That label “elite” can mean a lot of things. In this case, it means more than just members of Congress, their staffs and senior political appointees in the executive branch. Rather, this poll intended to measure the larger D.C. political milieu, the upper income portion of D.C.’s “governing class.” Here is the description from Monday’s story:

To qualify as a Washington elite for the poll, respondents must live within the D.C. metro area, earn more than $75,000 per year, have at least a college degree and be involved in the political process or work on key political issues or policy decisions.

Now this point may seem like nit-picking, but there is a difference between the thousand or so individuals who wield real power and influence in D.C. and the much larger group — probably numbering in the hundreds of thousands — who live in the region, have a college degree, earn $75,000 a year and describe themselves as somehow “involved in” politics or policy. That larger group is no doubt far easier to survey, and it may well provide a decent surrogate for the attitudes and worldview of the smaller and more powerful few, but it is different.

Next, consider that the “strikingly divergent outlook” of D.C.’s political elites as measured in this survey may owe as much to their socioeconomic status and partisanship (as defined in this survey) as to their proximity to Washington policymaking. A quick check of the cross-tabs for the Penn/Politico general population sample, for example, shows that better-educated and higher-income adults nationwide tend to be more optimistic about the economy, feel more insulated from the effects of the economic downturn and are more convinced that the Tea Party “is a fad” (to name three).

Also, the 227 respondents identified as D.C. elites give Democrats a two-to-one advantage (51% to 26%) on party identification. That is probably an accurate reflection of D.C.’s upper middle class political milieu — which is certainly different from the nation as a whole — but it also helps explain some of the observed differences in attitudes toward the Tea Party, political leaders and issue priorities. Again, the cross-tabs show that among all adults sampled nationwide in the Penn/Politico survey, Democrats were more likely than Republicans to say the nation is headed in the right direction (51% vs 7%), to consider the Tea Party a “fad” (39% vs. 17%) or to rate President Obama favorably (84% vs 16%).

I wonder how different the “D.C. Elites” would look compared to “elites” nationwide with comparable demographics and partisanship (i.e. with college degrees and incomes over $75,000, weighted to show a 2:1 Democratic advantage)? Maybe socioeconomic elites in Washington are not all that different from similarly situated elites nationwide.

Finally, an important postscript: Both surveys were conducted “online.” In this case, I won’t condemn Penn and Politico for conducting an online survey (though many of my pollster colleagues would), mostly because polling a “rare” population like “D.C. elites” would be prohibitively expensive using more conventional methods. But I wish Politico would have at least offered a sentence or two to describe the methodology and acknowledge that the “science” of online surveys remains a subject of debate among pollsters.

Let me try to compress that debate to a few paragraphs. Unlike most conventional telephone polls, which begin with a random sample of telephone numbers or registered voters, online polls begin with non-random “panels” of Americans who agree to complete surveys online. They are typically recruited using banner advertisements on web sites and usually receive some form of token financial compensation for each survey they complete. Online pollsters then use various methods (usually statistical weighting) to try to transform the completed interviews into a representative sample of a larger population.

How well do the adjustments work? The few independent efforts to assess the accuracy of online polling against known benchmarks tells us that online polls are less accurate, although the degree of accuracy probably depends on the application and can be hard to predict. Some argue that online panels should never be used to estimate “population values,” others consider the observed differences in accuracy small relative to reductions in survey cost (for more details see my two columns on this subject written last year).

(Past interests disclosed: My website, Pollster.com, was owned and sponsored by an Internet polling company, YouGov/Polimetrix, until two weeks ago, when it was acquired by the Huffington Post).

Generalizations aside, the Politico articles offered no real description of how the poll was conducted, so I emailed Mark Penn to ask for more detail. He tells me they used the e-Rewards market research panel. They weighted the general population sample by gender, age, education and race to match Census estimates (“within 2 percent”). However, they did not weight the D.C. elite sample beyond screening for the “key criteria listed of college education or higher, 75k of income and selected occupation levels.”

All of this leaves me with two final questions: How many college educated, upper-income D.C. policy and political wonks “earn e-Rewards Currency just for sharing [their] opinions?” And if the D.C. elite that are part of the e-Rewards panel have characteristics or opinions that differ from those that are not, how would we know?

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On Monday, Politico published two new surveys, conducted by pollster Mark Penn, that compare the views of ordinary Americans to “elites in Washington.” The story concluded that D.C.’...
On Monday, Politico published two new surveys, conducted by pollster Mark Penn, that compare the views of ordinary Americans to “elites in Washington.” The story concluded that D.C.’...
 
 
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03:51 AM on 07/22/2010
This article is worthless w/o describing just what the hell qualifies an elites in the first paragraph.
11:42 PM on 07/21/2010
this story should be used to wash the hogs.lets call it hog wash.
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MmeFlutterbye
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11:01 PM on 07/21/2010
It seems to me that only those with a vested interest in skewing polls would respond to them. How accurate could that be?
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10:43 PM on 07/21/2010
A college education proves neither education nor intelligence.

$75,000 per year is barely a middle class income...for one person.

"Elite" is a relative term.
09:27 PM on 07/21/2010
The fundamental problem is that no one in DC should be considered "elite". This is supposed to be a democratic republic, not a monarchy. Time to clean house.
06:47 PM on 07/21/2010
nice analysis. I was troubled when I saw the TV news talking of a survey of the "DC Elites". Your article bears out what troubled me. It was designed to slam the "DC Elites" not shed lite.
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eva belle
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05:57 PM on 07/21/2010
Mark Penn, the guy who brought us a failed HRC presidential campaign, and people still listen to what he has to say.
05:54 PM on 07/21/2010
Big article with lots of words. I can do better in less words -- the elites isolate themselves from the little people, only associate with other elites and filter what they read. They had their chance at power and blew it, and I'm including GWB in this elite class too.
09:07 PM on 07/21/2010
True, I hate to say it but I started skimming half way through. Too many words with not a lot of information.
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gomezrules
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05:41 PM on 07/21/2010
So we find out yet again that the denizens of Washington DC are cut off from the real world. Is there anything new to add? We've known this forever now. I remember a supposed quote that attained some notoriety many years ago when Nixon won re-election. Some gal (reputedly a movie critic named Pauline Kael) who ran in circles that can charitably be said didn't include your typical, ordinary working American citizen said ""How can he have won? Nobody I know voted for him.". This is more of the same.

The only ones who might be more cut off from the rest of society in this nation are those Hollwood 'mega stars'. And that seems appropriate. Too many politicians view themselves as such these days!
05:18 PM on 07/21/2010
No way, a poll that has a roughly 2:1 democrat to republican self identified "Washington Elite" respondents has a more favorable rating of Obama and gov't in general than the rest of the country!!! Who would of thought that??? Too bad for the majority of the respondents that the "real world" is basically 1/3rd dems, 1/3rd republicans and 1/3 independents and and more of those independents aren't happy with what the dems are doing these days in Washington than are happy with them
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Takebackourmoney
06:47 PM on 07/21/2010
What jobs. The only jobs here are with the lobbyist and contractors and you better know a GOP.
05:16 PM on 07/21/2010
The people in DC have a rosy view of the economy, because the big increase in goverment is brings more jobs to DC and less jobs everywhere else.
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05:13 PM on 07/21/2010
What elites?
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05:51 PM on 07/21/2010
An elite is anyone who believes that they are smarter than Sarah Palin.
11:41 PM on 07/21/2010
you got to be pretty dumb not to think you are smarter than sara
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Kevin Atlanta
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04:52 PM on 07/21/2010
The collective inside the beltway consciousness of group-think is clear in the skewed results.
Polls be damned; this President, Barrack Hussein Obama is in office until 2012 at least and the Goldman Sachs White House is replacing the Halliburton White House. There is still no representation of the people because Corporate Fascist Masters own these Purchased Politicians and their crony staffs lock, stock and barrel with revolving doors and legitimized bribery.
05:19 PM on 07/21/2010
Don't forget the state level.... your Governor is not immune...neither is ours
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Kevin Atlanta
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05:38 PM on 07/21/2010
The total system is absolutely corrupt. Here in FL the City of Tampa just lost 3 counsel people for fraud and corruption. The State under Christ cleaned up the act some but that's because the Holy Republican Cults of Jesus Inc are exposed as corrupt to the very core by creatures like Rubio and Jeb Bush.
Unless we get real candidates vetted and in place for 2012 this crap will continue. I've been approached to run for State House here but will not put up with the mudslinging and lies spewed by media and opponents ever.
How do we get good people to run in this toxic climate?
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intotheabyss
Imperialism is a form of insanity.
05:39 PM on 07/21/2010
What you say is absolutely correct. Don't forget the Washington Consensus group think that infects most of the fourth estate. The weasels you refer to couldn't get away with their crimes without the cooperation of the press.
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Kevin Atlanta
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05:50 PM on 07/21/2010
Amen and Hallelujah for calling out the 4th estate that died in 2001 with the fraud perpetrated by the Bush/Cheney Wrecking Crew. History will tell us that when all the dust is settled this will be, like Pearl Harbor, a known attack and the Bush empire will be complicit without a doubt from Daddy and Cheney to Dubya and Cheney the axis of evil is the Holy Repubican Cults of Jesus Inc with endorsement by the lying Corporate Fascist media.
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04:24 PM on 07/21/2010
Well known fact that half the degrees inside the beltway were purchased by mommy and daddy and not earned. And though rampant nepotism puts $75K+ annually in one's wallet...educated elitist does not even come close to being an accurate label for the collective of connected dolts inside the beltway.
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SpreadthePanic
04:33 PM on 07/21/2010
I tend to find that whenever a comment begins with "well known fact that...", whatever comes next is not going to be a fact at all. Your comment is a perfect illustration of this.
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04:40 PM on 07/21/2010
Indeed.

It's not half...its closer to three quarters.
04:38 PM on 07/21/2010
Sounds like someone is jealous.
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04:46 PM on 07/21/2010
Jealous for working for what others had handed to them?

Not even close. Am merely citing an aspect of the true back round of the so called DC elites.
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04:20 PM on 07/21/2010
I don't know if $75k in DC is what I would call elite. If I remember correctly it is a fairly expensive city to live in.
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FoonTheElder
Always choosing between the lesser of two evils
04:30 PM on 07/21/2010
After housing, taxes, transportation and food there wouldn't be much left.
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question authority
11:43 AM on 07/22/2010
'guidelines"