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House Dems Pressured To Drop Funding For Schools, Students To Pay For Wars In Iraq And Afghanistan

ANDREW TAYLOR   07/23/10 11:14 AM ET   AP

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The Senate voted down an inflated House version of the supplemental war spending bill Thursday.

WASHINGTON — After a take-it-or-leave-it vote by the Senate, House Democrats face little choice but to drop billions in aid for schools, college students and others that they had hoped could ride on legislation paying for President Barack Obama's troop surge in Afghanistan.

The Senate rejected the House measure, passed earlier this month, by a 46-51 vote that fell short of a majority, much less the 60 votes required to defeat a filibuster.

Instead, the Senate on Thursday stripped out the $20 billion in House add-ons and returned to the House an almost $60 billion measure passed by a bipartisan vote in May. The Senate measure is limited chiefly to war funding, foreign aid, medical care for Vietnam War veterans exposed to Agent Orange, and replenishing almost empty disaster aid accounts.

It would bring the amount of money appropriated for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan above $1 trillion.

Eleven Senate Democrats and Independent Joe Lieberman of Connecticut voted against the House version of the bill. Not a single Republican supported it.

The moves repel a long-shot bid by House Democrats earlier this month to resurrect their faltering jobs agenda with $10 billion in grants to school districts to avoid teacher layoffs, $5 billion for Pell Grants to low-income college students, $1 billion for a summer jobs program and $700 million to improve security along the U.S.-Mexico border.

The Senate measure is likely to be grudgingly accepted by House Democrats next week despite opposition from liberals who oppose the war in Afghanistan, which many of them view as unwinnable.

A spokesman for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., wouldn't comment on whether the House will simply approve the Senate measure and send it on to Obama for his signature.

But the pressure to do so is intense, especially after Defense Secretary Robert Gates warned lawmakers this week that unless the measure is enacted into law before Congress leaves for its August recess, the Pentagon could have to furlough thousands of employees.

The House bill also attracted a White House veto threat over $800 million in cuts to education programs to help pay for the additional domestic spending under a "pay-as-you-go" culture that the administration itself advocates.

The Senate measure blends about $30 billion for Obama's 30,000-troop surge in Afghanistan with more than $5 billion to replenish disaster aid accounts, as well as funding for Haitian earthquake relief, and a down payment on aid to flood-drenched Tennessee and Rhode Island.

The measure contains $13 billion in benefits for Vietnam War veterans exposed to Agent Orange, but does not provide more than $4 billion requested by the administration to finance settlements of long-standing lawsuits against the government, including $1.2 billion to remedy discrimination by the Agriculture Department against black farmers and $3.4 billion for mismanaging Indian trust funds.

The measure contains $1.1 billion for mine-resistant vehicles, $657 million for military bases in Afghanistan and $6.2 billion in foreign aid for Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan and Haiti.

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WASHINGTON — After a take-it-or-leave-it vote by the Senate, House Democrats face little choice but to drop billions in aid for schools, college students and others that they had hoped could rid...
WASHINGTON — After a take-it-or-leave-it vote by the Senate, House Democrats face little choice but to drop billions in aid for schools, college students and others that they had hoped could rid...
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shastaman
01:24 AM on 07/27/2010
So furlogh 100,000 defense employees and have them teach children constructive skills!

E N O U G H ! ! !

We'rre toast now
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tacevad
American SS Card Carrying Socialist
09:56 AM on 07/26/2010
All spending on any public or social program is considered fair game for takeover by private industry in a greedy for profit agenda fully backed by the GOP. Charter Schools are touted on a regular basis, privitization of Social Security, Contract Armies to guard our embasies, as long as there exists that pot of government money the GOP is determined to spread the wealth to only their friends and cohorts.
10:17 AM on 07/26/2010
They're giving away the farm to foriegn interests and we can't get any domestic spending approved? Why not let the pentagon go through with its threat to furlough? The President needs to wake up and veto this crap until he gets what he wants from congress. Ignore the polls and lead please! No more funding the wars, period. Domestic prioritys. Enforce the existing immigration laws.
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08:45 AM on 07/26/2010
Borrow the money from China, and send it all straight to Iraq & Afghanistan, BRILLIANT!
08:00 AM on 07/26/2010
More for war, forget about education,...who are the terrorists...again?
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Dhammi
Veritas Vincit!
03:58 PM on 07/26/2010
I've been asking that since the beginning of the bush hype about terrorists. We are not exactly stupid!

fan #2
04:56 PM on 07/26/2010
You have to look at these people, this is the gop that is doing this...they have no educattion so they think no one else should have.. what education they give to their children is private ... to heck with the ones that have to work for scholarships or loans... yes the dems should have said leave it.. and walked away.. now when it comes to ending this war, ask them if they want it ended (GOP) ask them????????
03:39 AM on 07/26/2010
"much less the 60 votes required to defeat a filibuster"
That should read "intent to filibuster"
This BS has to stop.
Make 'em filibuster.
Let them filibuster non-stop until the elections.
24/7
04:58 PM on 07/26/2010
I THINK THE FILIBUSTER SHOULD BE THROWN OUT THE WINDOW... THESE PEOPLE ARE NUTS THEY ARE USEING IT FOR THEIR EGO NOTHING ELSE..THEY ARE SHOWING THE DEMS THEY HAVE CONTROL NO MATTER WHO IT HURTS... EGO AND NOTHING ELSE
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wonketteRAWKS
Hypocrisy is prevalent in BOTH parties!
09:51 PM on 07/25/2010
$1 trillion? Amazing! While spending heavily for occupation in Iraq and war in Afghanistan (and Pakistan) domestic priorities take a backseat. Pretty soon there will be little left to protect.
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popart
retired school teacher
06:29 PM on 07/25/2010
americans must love wars we have had so many of them.....i'll bet if they were fought on US soil they would not be so popular...but as long as they are somewhere far away we seem to love to throw lives and money away on keeping them going....iran is next and with any luck at all Korea
after that...beyond that we may have to get creative....
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WarriorLemming
An avalanche On Republican's B*llsh*t Mountain
07:15 PM on 07/25/2010
Hey, it's the white, Christian way to conquer and subdue then make nice, little Christians out of the natives--remember when the military was handing out Bibles in Iraq that went over real good, lol
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karen1p
11:39 PM on 07/25/2010
I didn't hear they were giving out Bibles.....omg. Did that get paid by the 1 trillion?
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ObamaRican
Easier to curse the dark than look for light!
09:13 PM on 07/25/2010
Yes they must. It's been two hours since any comment on this story even though the headline begs attention. Once again congress decides to pile on the pork for everything except what will help our kids get educated and prepared. Many of the items are legit but if you sum up the pork and eliminate it, the savings are there to invest in education.
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HappyBalance
People BEFORE Profits
05:47 PM on 07/25/2010
Of course the House will fold to the Senate and the White House, that's what they do best.
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04:07 PM on 07/25/2010
"$5 billion to replenish disaster aid accounts, as well as funding for Haitian earthquake relief."...but cut the funding for our education here?
I'm just not feelin' this! All this money for other countries while we are rapidly goin' down.
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HappyBalance
People BEFORE Profits
05:48 PM on 07/25/2010
Going 3rd world baby.
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rukiddingmerightnow
06:13 AM on 07/26/2010
Yup. Embarassing, sad, and an outrage
04:59 PM on 07/26/2010
Who is pushing us toward the third world... lets say the GOP take over in Nov.. how long before we sink into the third world ... any bets??????
01:11 PM on 07/25/2010
The Democrats "job program" is what it usually is, saving Government jobs.
Chris Christie of NJ made a good point this morning on one weekly talk show. The private sector has taken a beating during the downturn, but Government workers, with the help of their unions (including Teachers) have comparably missed facing the pain. That, he said, is wrong, especially since they insist on maintaining their jobs, salaries, and pensions at the expense of the people paying for it from the private sector. It's an amazing sense of entitlement that needs to be eliminated.
Also, to suggest that Democrats were pressured cuts the wrong way. They didn't have to bow to the pressure, but maybe the majority of them realized the hypocricy. As the article states, the bill supports the surge Obama has put in place. The Democrats can't claim they don't "support" the war in Afghanistan becasue without them, there wouldn't be any funding for the war.
Adding Education funding to a military funding bill suggests that Democrats new it wouldn't fly on its own wings.
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carbolaw
01:48 PM on 07/25/2010
Complete BS it is not other workers that are causing the pain for workers in the private sector, it is the corporatists. You only need to look at who has benefited during the downturn and who has benefited in the past 30 years to see the problem. The top 1% of individuals in this country, increased their after tax share of the national income by over 200% in the past 30 years. The distribution of income to the top 1% and the bottom 90% now matches the numbers just before the Great Depression. Therein lies the problem. To suggest we solve this mess by making working people (public or private sector) take on more of the pain is nothing more than right wing corporatist propaganda.
02:17 PM on 07/25/2010
Yeah but, listen, what are you talking about? Are you saying that an income gap caused the Great Depression? Are you saying that the disparity between the highest of the high and the lower income segments somehow suggests that the lower 90%'s lifestyle/living conditions match that of the lower 90% of pre-Great Depression America?
Most people in the lower 25% income tiers, over 15 or 20 years will move OUT of that bracket, many into the top 25%. Just because the bottom and the top are getting farther apart in income doesn't suggest people are locked in.
And I don't know where you are able to justify (which you seem to be doing) a public fleecing of the private sector. Whether its NJ Teachers or Bell, CA city managers and council members, if we're talking about income and retirement "fairness," you'd think creating a new upper class of Governement workers on the backs of a struggling private sector would make you or anyone angry.
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Brian Gilmer
Good citizens make good citizens.
11:15 AM on 08/06/2010
http://www2.ed.gov/news/speeches/2010/04/04142010.html

"While there is no hard number for the whole country, we think state budget cuts could imperil anywhere from 100,000 to 300,000 education jobs."

It is not like schools can close when the economy takes a downturn. The compulsory education law (N.J.S.A. 18A:38-28 through 31) requires all children between the ages of 6-16 to attend school. Governor Christie is attempting to defend cutting funding to schools to balance NJ budget. The NJ Governor should be honest and set educational goal that are in line with the funding that is available. Maybe NJ should be the first state to go the K-10 since the last 2 years of school are not compulsory.
09:30 AM on 07/25/2010
“THE RICH ARE TAKING OUR ECONOMY DOWN…..BECAUSE THEY WANT “MORE” WHEN THEY ALREADY HAVE “MORE THAN ENOUGH”…..MORE THAN 99% OF THEIR FELLOW AMEIRCANS

“There is no question that the wealthy pay a higher overall tax rate than any other group. But there is also NO QUESTION that THEIR tax rates have FALLEN MORE than any other group’s over the last three decades. The ONLY REASON they are paying more taxes than in the past is that their PRETAX INCOMES have RISEN SO RAPIDLY — which hardly seems a great rationale for a further tax cut.

So why are those radio and television talk show hosts spending so much time arguing that today’s wealthy are unfairly burdened? Well, it’s hard not to notice that the talk show hosts themselves tend to be among the very wealthy.

No doubt, like the rest of us, they don’t particularly enjoy paying taxes. They are happy with the tax cuts they have received lately. They would prefer if other people had to pick up the bill for Medicare, Social Security and the military — people like, say, firefighters, preschool teachers, computer support specialists, farmers, members of the clergy, mail carriers, secretaries and truck drivers.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/14/business/economy/14leonhardt.html?_r=1&ref=congressional_budget_office
02:33 AM on 07/25/2010
90 billion more for war and just how is this going to be paid for ? Aren't we supposed to be worried about the debt now ? Hypocrites ..... all of them
02:24 AM on 07/25/2010
I love how Fox attacked anyone against Bush because he was a " wartime " president and we shouldn't be disrespectful or the enemy might think the President is weak . They have done nothing except attack " wartime " President Obama , and now they are crying crocodile tears over war funding ....... Fox is a group of pathetic unamerican traitors
02:20 AM on 07/25/2010
One Trillion Dollars for war , but nothing for the Americans .
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MESGAIN26
12:33 PM on 07/25/2010
nothing but bankters all of them
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GloriaY
11:37 PM on 07/24/2010
But rethugs keep beating the drum about their concern about the debt that their children and grandchildren will be inheriting. Funding a war is more important than funding the education of the same children and grand children they are sooooooo worried about. What obstructionists and hypocrits.
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alexjones1
11:57 PM on 07/24/2010
dems supported the wars just as much, and gave the shrub the authority to start them.
02:24 AM on 07/25/2010
disingenuous much ?
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LeftLeanWing
Ah.. I said..Ah Said I said... Proceed Guv'nah
05:36 PM on 07/25/2010
True for the War to get binLaden ( afghanistan )
Everyone , including myself, was out for retribution for 9 / 11
But then Bush screwed it up by not putting in the resources necessary to capture or kill binLaden and Zawahiri

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Not True on Iraq...

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Republican
215 Y
6 N
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2-No Vote

Democratic
82 Y
126 N
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CarolinaYankee
08:44 AM on 07/25/2010
What cracks me up is, if they really cared about their kids, wouldn't they want them to able to compete in this world. Some of these kids cannot even spell without spell check. We need better education for them.