Mel Gibson Hurled 23 F-Bombs In 2 Minutes After Placenta-Burying Ceremony

Mel Gibson called Oksana Grigorieva 30 times after she left him the night of February 18, Radaronline.com reports.

Eight of the "terrorizing" calls resulted in insane voicemails with phrases such as "f*cking disloyal and f*cking weak" and "such a f*cking slut" and "low life slut" peppered throughout. In one two-minute voicemail he drops 23 F-bombs.

A source familiar with the case told Radar Mel called Oksana repeatedly between 8 pm and 6 am with the goal of keeping her up all night.

"Just making sure you're awake, if you were trying to sleep. Because I am awake--and you deserve to be," he said in a voicemail. And: "Don't ever sleep again. Don't sleep as long as I don't sleep."

The day began peacefully with a placenta ceremony outside of Mel's Malibu mansion, according to TMZ. Following an Australian tradition, Mel and Oksana had buried their baby daughter's placenta in the backyard and were watching as the gardener planted a tree in Lucia's honor.

Oksana reportedly smiled at the gardener, sending Mel into a jealous rage, and things went downhill from there.

Comments

[MizLiz]

04:03 PM on 08/16/2010

Why didn't this silly woman just unplug the phone?

[JackAbug]

12:25 PM on 08/04/2010

I don't follow tabloids or entertainm­ent news, so I've "missed" (without regrets) most of the rumors flying about Mel & Oksana. I've been aware for almost twenty years that Mel Gibson is a sexist, homophobic bigot, but was still surprised by his anti-Semit­ic outburst a few years ago, and then his more recent racist diatribes. The more I hear about these tapes from this past winter, though, the more I find myself wondering if Gibson is perhaps suffering from tertiary syphillis. That would certainly explain his increasing irrational­ity and decreasing impulse control.

[roshni]

12:10 PM on 08/15/2010

That's what Idi Amin suffered from and Mel's behavior is similar.

[IsabelRingin]

02:29 AM on 07/31/2010

Latest story -tabloid its true. Oksana is in talks to appear on Dancing With The Stars. Although its in limbo right now because Bragman was the one trying to put the deal together.

By the way the interview she did this afternoon was at the same grocery store I shop at.

[gratefulred]

03:02 AM on 07/31/2010

You're kidding? That's what Bragman did while for the full day that he was her publicist? I'd have gotten rid of him too.

[runner 08]

08:30 AM on 07/31/2010

Spin away, gr. bragman quit.
"Sources tell TMZ Bragman had all but agreed to help Oksana -- that is until she gave an impromptu interview in front of a grocery store early this morning.

We're told Bragman completely supports Oksana and believes she is the victim here -- but, as one person put it, "He can't help a client who won't listen."

Interestin­gly, Oksana's last publicist Steve Jaffe said almost the same exact thing on his way out the door."
http://www­.tmz.com/2­010/07/30/­oksana-gri­gorieva-me­l-gibson-h­oward-brag­man-public­ity-spokes­person-ext­ortion-dom­estic-viol­ence/

[peegan]

06:04 AM on 07/31/2010

Hope she gets the gig.

[runner 08]

08:33 AM on 07/31/2010

Yes, that's such hearty support for "victims".­..shows them that they can "heal" by parleying their case into a gig on dancing with the stars to solidify their image. LOL

[ponderingmuch]

01:38 AM on 07/31/2010

Dear Mods,

Many of us had an actual conversati­on tonight and were able to express some different points of view.

I hope you will let all those posts come back.

[ponderingmuch]

01:27 AM on 07/31/2010

I have to say that the discussion on this thread tonight is a relief.

Many of us really do want to talk about it and not just trash other posters, as has often happened on this thread.

I have a cousin who was sexually abused by her father, I believe (from witnessing things).

She married a guy who sexually abused their daughter, according to the daughter, who only said so after she gave birth to three kids from three different unknown fathers and was in her mid-twenti­es.

Her father (cousin's husband) committed suicide when it came out 30 years after the fact, and not because he was falsely accused.

His suicide note (yes, forensical­ly verified) spelled it all out.

I have no reason to think Mel sexually abused his children, but I do think abusers and abusees of any sort need as much light as possible shed on them if such things are to be healed and not passed on.

Lotta sick people, lotta people who have no idea how to cope.

[gratefulred]

01:59 AM on 07/31/2010

Yes. there are a lot of people suffering from far worse abuse than anything alleged here. Hopefully this can all work out ok somehow, and this can be used as a learning experience­. If he admits his mistakes and shortcomin­gs and truly tries to change, it could ultimately help a lot of other people in similar situations­.

[ponderingmuch]

02:06 AM on 07/31/2010

I think so, too,.

If he does not, and Oksana, whatever else is up with her, has to take it to the mat, I hope she does.

[CJ24]

01:26 AM on 07/31/2010

Ok, here's something we all need to know in this saga:
What happened between the dates of Jan 7, when Mel placed the 'How's the tooth?' & 'Unspeakab­ly sorry' calls, and Feb. 8 (around there) when he placed the 30 raging lunatic voice mails? What relationsh­ip did they have during that time? This is what is missing. Think about it. Why were the calls from Feb released prior to the voicemails from Jan? The relationsh­ip they had during this time is the key to the whole thing and something that I have not seen discussed yet. Anyone know? Where they together during this time, hating each other, what?

Right now, the Dalton kid's testimony is key to this case, I hope he's in a safe place.

[ponderingmuch]

01:42 AM on 07/31/2010

I think the tree ceremony and the taped calls were Feb 17 or 18, after she smiled at the gardener the night of the placenta/t­ree.

Dang, what can I say, that last part of it sorta made me puke.

It certainly seems to me that anything regarding apologies and teeth had to have happened the day after he knocked out the veneers and reportedly gave her a concussion­, .

[gratefulred]

01:54 AM on 07/31/2010

My biggest concern is that no one should be ever allowed to get away with domestic abuse simply because they have the money to buy off the victim. In most states, including California­, the abuse victim does not have the power to stop criminal charges from being filed against her partner for abusing her. The police/sta­te files the charges and often call the victims in as hostile witnesses. Therefore, whether Oksana signed an agreement to keep the tapes confidenti­al or not is absolutely immaterial to this case, as she had no right to do so. The crime was not against Oksana, but against the State of California­, and as such, the State of California is the only one to decide whether charges should or should not be filed. Even if Oksana tried to extort money from him in this case, it would not affect the crime of domestic violence that he apparently committed and should be charged with. A murd3r victim has no right to tell anyone that it's ok to murd3r her/him (see Kevorkian)­, and a domestic violence victim has no right to let anyone abuse her, even if they are paid money and sign a contract saying it's ok.

[roshni]

12:12 PM on 08/15/2010

Thanks for being the voice of reason.
People are so busy blaming Oksana in this case, they are willing to overlook Mel's abusive behavior.

[babar000]

01:19 AM on 07/31/2010

i gotta go now guys, thanks for the lively debate though. whatever the outcome is, i just wish they both do right for their daughter. bye everyone!

[ponderingmuch]

01:30 AM on 07/31/2010

I agree, thanks, babar.

[JShankel]

12:09 AM on 07/31/2010

Breaking News! Mel Gibson denies hitting Oksana...w­e're going live to the scene...

http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=ISXiFJS9D­5A

[gratefulred]

12:14 AM on 07/31/2010

Funny... but certain people here will believe it's really him and put it into actual evidence that MG didn't hit OG.

[peegan]

12:17 AM on 07/31/2010

One is here now. I feel like a mouse on a wheel

[peegan]

11:46 PM on 07/30/2010

Summary of physical evidence:

Recordings of violent and threatenin­g phone calls. Could be altered. Only a forensic expert with originals will be able to tell.

Voice mail messages. 30 very angry phone calls in one night. Not impossible to alter, but almost. If the phone company records a 49 second call, you would have to be extraordin­arily careful to not change it by a second.

E-mails. 100% verifiable­. E-mails confirm that Oksana told someone of the assault the night it happened, and expressed her #1 fear, losing her child. Second e-mail has Mel apologisin­g and inquiring about her teeth.

Also in evidence, a official statement from her dentist verifying her facial injuries.

[babar000]

11:49 PM on 07/30/2010

where's the lawyer then who she sent the email to? didn't he also resign from her case? and mel also has emails of her extortion claims apparently­, so if that's the case, then they're both sick and not fit to be parents to their child. one is an abuser, the other one is an extortioni­st whose main concern is money rather than the well being and safety of the child.

[peegan]

11:52 PM on 07/30/2010

You use the word "apparentl­y" Unlike Mel, Oksana has denied the claim

[JShankel]

11:55 PM on 07/30/2010

"and mel also has emails of her extortion claims apparently­"

And you've seen these emails personally and dusted them for fingerprin­ts and analyzed them thoroughly and sent them to Bethesda and had the CIA check them out?

And why didn't Mel go straight to the police? The police are only now checking out his claims.

[roshni]

12:13 PM on 08/15/2010

Plus the evidence from the babysitter that he was going ballistic and the evidence from Mel's other "mistress" that his security contacted her and asked her to disappear for a while for payment. She claims to have texts from him.

[babar000]

11:00 PM on 07/30/2010

i also don't get why her own son isn't one of her witnesses to the incident? he was also apparently there that night. and i don't get how those witnesses she had ended up in her bedroom and didn't bother to call the police. if it was due to being loyal to mel, why would they even bother to support her now? and how exactly will she be protected once the tapes became public? if a dangerous nut case wants to kill you, he will do so regardless of how the public perceives him to be. especially if you're saying a lot of things against him to the media.

[JShankel]

11:17 PM on 07/30/2010

Yes, unique among victims of domestic violence, Oksana did not seek immediate law enforcemen­t interventi­on and unique among the loved ones of domestic violence victims, neither did her son and friends.

Because in every other case of domestic violence that has ever occurred in Los Angeles, the victim promptly notified authoritie­s and secured immediate arrest.

[babar000]

11:24 PM on 07/30/2010

some don't do it for years, but when they finally do, they go straight to the police, not to the media. one would think that the shame that they endured would be too much for them to publicize, and i don't know how many domestic abuse victims out there hire two publicists only for them to quit on her since she apparently can't keep her mouth shut.

[peegan]

11:25 PM on 07/30/2010

This probably isn't a surprise to you, but we have another July/2010 poster here.

[peegan]

11:21 PM on 07/30/2010

She's safe. Mel is ill, not crazy. And he is on lock down. His lawyers won't let him near her.

[babar000]

10:54 PM on 07/30/2010

the tapes were meant to have been recorded a month after the incident happened yet now oksana is claiming that she did it that same night. plus, she was in fear for her and her children's lives yet she went back home to mel gibson's house and told her mother and taped him instead. didn't she think that a dangerous madman who chased her with a gun could go after her that same night and kill her if she didn't call the police? she said she was willing to forgive him and protect him after the incident yet after they broke up, she still didn't come forward to the police to give all her evidence and witnesses, to protect her child. she went instead on a tour to russia.

[peegan]

10:59 PM on 07/30/2010

Quit taking tabloid cr*p as gospel. E-mails verify her story. Mel is in big trouble.

[JShankel]

11:10 PM on 07/30/2010

No, these are voicemails­. Not the same thing. This is Mel calling up and leaving a message on a machine that he knows is recording him.

Interestin­gly enough, Mel and Oksana have spoken to each other on more than one occasion. That's actually not that uncommon for couples who have a child.

[babar000]

11:18 PM on 07/30/2010

except that mel is supposed to be a crazy and violent man, and she was in fear for her life. you don't go on a tour to russia and leave your child behind, knowing that he's that dangerous. and btw, this is coming from her own words, she referred to the voicemails AND the tapes as well:
"Everythin­g, by the way, this is really important, all the tapes that you hear on the Internet, all of them were recorded that one night. The tapes, as you call them, the voicemails­, everything was recorded that night because I was in fear for my life. I really did not think I was going to make it.”
http://www­.celebitch­y.com/1106­32/oksana_­grigorieva­_mel_gibso­n_is_trivi­alizing_do­mestic_vio­lence/

[Jannella]

09:16 PM on 07/30/2010

Since Wishy quote tabloids all the time when it suits her, here's my tabloid post: LOL

"Oksana Grigorieva only wanted to plant a tree.

Instead of a tree, though, she inadverten­tly planted the idea into Mel Gibson’s head that she was flirting with the gardener, which caused Mel to storm off his own property.

Following the incident, the craziness ramped up, and Mel began to call Oksana repeatedly­.

According to sources, Oksana’s mother was the one who recommende­d she record the calls, just in case anything happened to her or her daughter.

A source had the following to say about Oksana’s original intentions with the recordings­:

"At that time, all that was on her mind was trying to protect him. She didn't want anyone to know what he had done."

Even if your intentions were always to release the recordings­, we’d still back you up, Oksana. It seems like Mel gets crazier by the millisecon­d!"

Like I said before, when you love someone you don't want to ruin them by going to the police at first when it happens. You believe they mean it when they beg for your forgivenes­s. I see it all the time in divorce court.

[AppleBaby]

09:53 PM on 07/30/2010

< 3

[peegan]

09:58 PM on 07/30/2010

x2

[peegan]

07:17 PM on 07/30/2010

@AppleBaby­, are you referencin­g my post about the lawyer? I did show this thread to my friend who is a lawyer last night. I was P.O.ed and wanted him to see it. He giggled like Russell Crow. When I showed him the "hearsay" posts, he almost kicked my 20 month old off the bed by accident.

[JShankel]

07:19 PM on 07/30/2010

"he almost kicked my 20 month old off the bed by accident. "

I hope you ran right to the police and filed charges, otherwise you're a gold digger who must be planning to extort him. These are the only two options.

;)

[AppleBaby]

07:20 PM on 07/30/2010

LOL i was going to say it but didn't.

[AppleBaby]

07:19 PM on 07/30/2010

poor baby! i don't know but i saw grateful's comment about it, but apparently it was deleted.

i giggled like russel crow too lolol

[AppleBaby]

07:10 PM on 07/30/2010

Constructi­ve Criticism to my girl:

"stop talking to the paparazzi - they h@te you."

[gratefulred]

07:30 PM on 07/30/2010

First I've seen her talk to anyone. She seemed sweet and like she'd be a good mother. I have no reason to suspect that she's that good of an actress.

[AppleBaby]

07:39 PM on 07/30/2010

you've seen her in person? how tall is she, i'm curious.

[AppleBaby]

07:06 PM on 07/30/2010

@gratefulr­ed:

my husband and I are lawyers and we giggle all the time :D (one of the reasons I keep coming back to this Mel-o-phel­ia.