Obama Defends Education Policy, Takes On Teachers Unions

JULIE PACE   07/29/10 11:54 AM ET   AP

Obama Education Policy

WASHINGTON — Challenging civil rights organizations and teachers' unions that have criticized his education policies, President Barack Obama said Thursday that minority students have the most to gain from overhauling the nation's schools.

"We have an obligation to lift up every child in every school in this country, especially those who are starting out furthest behind," Obama told the centennial convention of the National Urban League.

The Urban League has been a vocal critic of Obama's education policies, most notably the $4.35 billion "Race to the Top" program that awards grants to states based on their plans for innovative education reforms. A report released earlier this week by eight civil rights groups, including the Urban League, says federal data shows that just 3 percent of the nation's black students and less than 1 percent of Latino students are affected by the first round of the administration's "Race to the Top" competition.

Obama pushed back Thursday, arguing that minority students are the ones who have been hurt the most by the status quo.

Obama's reforms have also drawn criticism from education advocates, including prominent teachers' unions like the American Federation of Teachers, who have argued that the reforms set unfair standards for teacher performance.

Obama said the goal isn't to fire or admonish teachers, but to create a culture of accountability. He pinned some of the criticism on a resistance to change.

"We get comfortable with the status quo even when the status quo isn't good," he said. "When you try to shake things up, sometimes people aren't happy."

Seeking to ease his strained relationship with the powerful teacher's unions, Obama hailed teachers as "the single most important factor in a classroom," calling for higher pay, better training and additional resources to help teachers succeed.

"Instead of a culture where we're always idolizing sports stars or celebrities, I want us to build a culture where we idolize the people who shape our children's future," Obama said.

The president laid the groundwork for what he called "an honest conversation" about education with comments on several recent developments that were designed as sweeteners for his mostly minority audience.

For instance, he said his goal with his domestic agenda, including the economy, health care and other priorities, is to create "an economy that lifts all Americans – not just some, but all." That comment earned him significant applause and pleased murmurs in the room.

The president also said he very much looks forward to signing a bill recently passed by Congress to reduce the disparities between mandatory crack and powder cocaine sentences. The matter has been a longtime thorn for the black community, as the quarter-century-old law that Congress changed has subjected tens of thousands of blacks to long prison terms for crack cocaine convictions while giving far more lenient treatment to those, mainly whites, caught with the powder form of the drug.

"We got it done," Obama said. "It's the right thing to do."

And he forthrightly addressed the racial firestorm over the recent ouster of a black Agriculture Department official. He said the forced resignation of Shirley Sherrod "marked both the challenges we face and the progress we've made."

"She deserves better than what happened last week," Obama said.

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Associated Press White House Correspondent Jennifer Loven contributed to this report.

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MarcEdward 12:46 PM on 07/29/2010
I have heard the argument made that we should spend on education as much as we spend on the military.
Google "what does it cost to train a soldier" - you get answers varying from $40,000 to $150,000.
If we spent $40,000/year/student (for your AVERAGE, NOT SPECIAL NEEDS STUDENT) you think we'd have the same results we are getting now? You think our military trains soldiers who can only speak  Read More...
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10:35 AM on 08/02/2010
The Race to the Top grant lets states and their communities know what districts are serious about reforming curricula and pedagogy. The teachers unions are upset because they know that college and university educational programs are steeped in theory more so than application. In other words, the low test scores in the inner-cities and low socio-economic areas reflect poor teacher and administrator preparation in dealing with indigent populations from a cultural standpoint and a lack of professional development for instructional innovation.

Because of the lack of strong educational implementation by urban/rural districts, charter schools are being these environments without union interventions. This causes the teachers union to lose membership fees. I don't think that that is what Obama's educational leaders are looking to do to the unions (bankrupt them), but I'm sure it would bother the Department of Education one bit either.
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11:56 PM on 08/01/2010
So you want to just brush the whole educational problem aside with "oh kids are just dumb these days, and parents are to blame for all the problems." and let the failing system continue on as the nice little home for wayward college grads that can't cut it in the real world. Student test scores for the public education systems in this country are now below every other industrial economy in the world, while tax payers pay the highest amount. YES Obama needs to shake up this "good-ole-boys" club that the educational system has become...THANKYOU
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10:28 AM on 08/01/2010
The Shirley Sherrod issue reveals that our pathetically inept media needs some serious work (and that such a forced resignation reflects too little investigation into Sherrod's excellent character that was blemished by inaccurate reporting). We must demand the development and feeding of an independent media that has withered more severely since the beginning of baby Bush years and needs immediate rehabilitation. "The inappropriate fit between the country's major media and the country's political system has starved voters of relevant information, leaving them at the mercy of paid political propaganda that is close to meaningless and often worse. It has eroded the central requirement of a democracy that those who are governed give not only their consent but their informed consent." (see page 114, McChesney, Robert W. and Nichols, John, Our Media Not Theirs - The Democratic Struggle Against Corporate Media"...an excellent treatise!)
07:31 PM on 07/30/2010
It sounds more like the President is attempting to tackle the funding and administration problem, rather than teaching principles. Likely a shift from local community funding and administration to state based funding and administration would be a logical goal. This provides education uniformity across a state and creates a better system of education management with significantly reduced administration costs with the elimination of repetition of administrative services. Federal funding of education also would also becomes far simpler with only 50 education departments to be reviewed and assessed for aid rather than thousands.
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10:47 AM on 08/02/2010
I see your point, but funding helps educational innovation. Many districts lack the discretionary funding to provide professional development for teachers and administrators. Also, with numerous districts across the country cutting back and laying off the non-tenured, need the resources (teaching materials) to execute innovative ideas on the classrooms.

Whoever wins the funding needs to be held accountable for what they do with the subsidies by providing a plan for they are going to do and how they plan to quantify their effectiveness with the grant.
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Ben Cohn
01:32 PM on 07/30/2010
Its so fashionable to take shots at teachers and teachers unions, but like usual the easiest person to attack isn't usually the one at fault. Guess what parents...SOME OF YOUR CHILDREN ARE NOT SMART. It is usually not teachers fault that little Jimmy doesn't learn his Algebra. It's not the teacher not teaching Algebra correctly, its little Jimmy not doing his homework or even more likely just not being that good at math. Not everyone is good at everything. We expect kids to just be awesome at all these subjects now. We plan teachers for simple unchangeable reality. KIDS WILL BE KIDS. They will goof off and not always do their homework to go play ball instead. I went to a top 150 high school in America, and yes it was public. The teachers almost all had master's degrees. Guess what...kids still got D's and F's. WHY? Because that's part of school. Some kids should fail, some should get C's, some B's and some A's. The "everyone should go to college" mentality has trickled down into highschool and lower to now mean, everyone should get good grades and be able to do every subject perfectly. Its a joke and its unrealistic.

Sorry parents but if you want this and future generations to succeed you need to stop coddling them with the "everyone wins, and were all intellectually equal" crap and let some of them FAIL.
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10:57 AM on 08/02/2010
You are obviously not an educational insider. If you were your post would have mentioned things about cognition, professional development, use of technology, differentiated instruction, curriculum mapping, etcetera, etcetera. Your statements are subjective and don't seem to be based on anything.

Why don't you enlighten HP posters with how you came up with your theory that not all children can learn? Can you cite some information? As a former student of a top 150 high school, you should be able to cite facts.
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Ben Cohn
12:34 PM on 08/02/2010
1) I never claimed to be an "educational insider" so not really sure what your point there was. Plus your ability to cite a couple phrases that anyone who has taken basic pyscology knows proves nothing about what you know or don't know.

2) I never said that all children can't learn. I said that not all children are smart. Not all children should get A's and B's and not all children should go to college. That doesn't taken anything but basic common sense...but clearly you don't like using common sense.
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11:49 AM on 07/30/2010
great-more privitazation of our republic, more support and incentive for charter schools, less money for public education, and hugely supported military budgets, disguised as "defense".
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12:17 PM on 07/30/2010
Charter schools are public, and if they perform better as a parent that is where I would want to send my child. I do not see privatization on the horizon at all, where do you see it? He is actually spending more money, but besides that I don't think money is the cure all here. We need to engage society overall, evaluate what we are doing wrong and what not. Our kids are not motivated, and why is that? Why do we have so many parents who do not seem to see a reason to push their kids, the overall success of our society depends on an educated population, and that did not "trickle down" to everyone. Our gross national product depends on education, look at countries that are doing good and look at their education level, and then check out the spendings, overall America spends a lot on education, just not in the right way and places.
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03:28 PM on 07/30/2010
charter schools are NOT public...that's why you can't just enroll your kids there the way you do at a public school. charter schools rely on tuition...making them private institutions.
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05:58 PM on 07/30/2010
We have several PUBLIC Charter schools here on Hawaii, one really good one that comes to my mind is Myron B. Thompson Charter school, and they do not rely on tuition. As a matter of fact they get a little less money than the regular public school, but they are funded by the government. I do not know about other states, but I thought that Bush initiated charter schools as an alternative to the traditional schools to see who fares better...
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12:36 PM on 07/30/2010
The United States currently spends more on public education than any other country on the planet, yet we're routinely outdone by other nations. Currently we spend $9,000 a year per student from K-12. That comes to a grand total of $117,000.

If you can't educate a child adequately with over 100K and 13 years at your disposal, then money is not the issue.
02:35 PM on 07/30/2010
NO, parents are the issue.
I believe that the reason that Asian students do so much better in school, on the average, than American students is that the Asian culture still considers education to be a privilege. The American culture thinks they are entitled to it no matter what.
10:51 AM on 07/30/2010
Thank you Urban League, NAACP, etc. for standing up for the poor kids in America. Obama's plan will provide for a separate but unequal education for our children. The great American dream of universal education will be destroyed. Bill Gates and the Waltons will experiment on our poorer kids while the upper middle class suburbs will not allow this nonsense to be imposed on their schools. Any teacher who dares to work with lower socioeconomic kids will risk losing their jobs.
The Washington Post is going crazy this morning since civil rights organizations have dared to challenge Obama and Duncan's privatization plans. Close all the schools in the poor neighborhoods that are "failing" they say. Worked so well in Rhode Island, let's do it everywhere and throw some more teachers out on the street because they tried to work with poorer kids.
Enough-put an educator in charge of the Department of Education and stop this madness.
10:24 AM on 07/30/2010
I'm sorry to break it to some of you commentators but some people are not intelligent. They just aren't. Some people pick up concepts fast, others take longer. Some people can never pick up a concept no matter how hard they try. Evolution allows for alot of variety in intelligence amongst humans.

So the fact that everyone can be taught is not a logical concept, the fact that everyone can become a doctor or go to college is not a logical concept.

Should standards be introduced? Yes they should, should teachers found lacking not due to finances by due to their own lack of initiative have their employment looked into? yes.
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12:24 PM on 07/30/2010
That's not even the issue. The basics are being taught at home long before school even starts, and during a child's life parents are teachers as well. Many children lack this and we need to reach them as well for every productive member of our society is helping this country to move forward. Education and poverty often go together.
12:29 PM on 07/30/2010
Yes education and poverty are linked. But to deny that some people just aren't intelligent is living in a completely unrealistic dimension.
Not every child is destined for university, for PHD's etcetra.
09:22 AM on 07/30/2010
I would like to post this comment and not receive any rancorous replies, but honest, open ones. In the northeast teachers are very well compensated. On Long Island, teachers start at 55K per year and after about 10 years can come close to six figures. They only contribute to their pensions for 7 years and that guarantees them about 80% of the final 5 years salaries for the rest of their lives. And in all honesty, most teachers who are teaching for more than 10 years do not work more than 8 hours per day and yes, they do get summers off and many breaks throughout the year. Can you honestly say that this isn't well compensated? Do you consider a 35 year old, getting in to work at 7 and leaving by 2:30, not contributing to a 401k but having a secure pension and earning $90,000/year undercompensated?
09:55 AM on 07/30/2010
I cannot speak to the accuracy of your example, but as critics are prone, you take what you believe to be valid and extrapolate your example to teachers and education everywhere. In all honesty, how could possibly know if teachers with ten or more years experience are not working more than eight hours a day? How does teacher pension vesting compare with ALL other pension programs? And yes there is time off, often working on recertification credits, but not always. But ALL other professionals get time off as well, receive pensions, and are well compensated. Which other professionals would you like to compare teachers with? Then we can have that honest conversation you prefaced your post with.
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Ben Cohn
01:37 PM on 07/30/2010
I understand your point but having gone to a Top 150 high school (was public) where teachers after 15 years could be making well into the 6 figures I must say that this is actually EXACTLY what we need. My schools graduation rate was over 98% with approximatley 92% going on to college. And those that didn't go almost all could have. The reason for this...

Almost all my high school teachers had masters degrees. If you want a good education you have to be willing to pay for the teachers. Our government needs to spend way MORE money on education. We need to give people that want to be teachers and incentive to go on to get things like Masters in teaching, and the only way to do that is to actually be competative in terms of compensation.
03:48 AM on 07/30/2010
Does anyone really believe Obama will take on the teachers unions? I don't think so!
11:39 PM on 07/29/2010
And yet the race to the bottom in our society continues to get all of the funding and attention
ie. Goldman Sachs ! Halliburton! ! I'm guessing Blackwater is still receiveng billiions

AND teachers have to " PROVE IT "
11:48 PM on 07/29/2010
What?

Goldman Sachs makes all of its money on its own. Yes, they may do it with a serpent's smile, but they do indeed generate income without the help of the government.
02:03 PM on 08/01/2010
No help from the government? What do you think the bailout was?
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11:01 PM on 07/29/2010
Expecting higher standards in education is a no-brainer. I often wonder why teachers unions and now the Urban League are against higher standards and more accountability from educators.

I'm also curious as to why Obama is against the school voucher programs that give inner city kids a chance to go to a much better school and away from the violence and drugs in the public schools.

I guess uneducated people are more likely to vote for the Democrats.
11:42 PM on 07/29/2010
Yeah ! and why did the auto workers unions settle simply for just spewing out whatever was sent down the pike
Never any demand for modern, GREEN, sustainable vehicles!

Just give us the money!

We're broken
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11:45 PM on 07/29/2010
I think that studies have show that, generally, children from lower socioeconomic homes are more likely to perform worse than students from higher income homes. So...if teacher's jobs depend on the students getting good scores on tests, then teachers will not want to work in the poorest schools. Also, these (underperforming) schools are usually the ones that get closed or overhauled, which is not always the best for the neighborhood families.

I don't think teachers are not wanted to be held accountable, but it has to be a valid assessment of a teacher's ability and student growth.
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09:00 PM on 07/29/2010
So many comments from people who have never stepped in front of a classroom to teach, or think that "Freedom Writers" and "The Ron Clark Story" are what all teachers should aspire to. The truth is, some kids just CANNOT be taught. It's great to watch movies being made about teachers who taught for a few years (Gruwell taught for four years, Clark for six) and had classes of only 35 kids a day. My reality is that I teach 125 different children every day. For only 53 minutes a day. In a bad economy. Many with parents who do not care or do not have time to care about their performance. I make $48K a year, and I spend about $2000 a year on school supplies, lunches for students, activites, and supplies for kids who cannot adford them. I owe $56K in student loans to get a M. Ed. degree. Another $2800 of my yearly sallary goes toward paying off those loans. So, I say to you skeptics, how dare you question my dedication or the dedication of those in my profession. Hey 0311Marine, you don't see me questioning all Marines when a couple of them screw up or go AWOL, do you?
09:42 PM on 07/29/2010
Exactly. Crack down on teachers at low-income schools, and they're just going to ensure all the decent, experienced teachers with options move from low-income schools.
11:58 PM on 07/29/2010
Well said Mr Lowery!
Just started reading ' To Kill a Mockingbird "
'LOVING IT!
The sense of a persons family and their private lives being theirs is astute
Yet The general public needs thorough education for progress to continue
Recent surveys state that 18 of the top 20 universities in the world are in the US of A
China has mandated that in the next ten years they would like to achieve 5 of these slots
For all you FREAKS that think its easy to have high achieving education as a national norm; keep in mind that you cannot demand that someone be creative
Creativity doesn't happen at the barrel of a gun
openness and tolerance , and a paultry wage for the services of so many dedicated individuals had brought US of A to the apex of our global community
Austerity and heavy handedness ain't gonna keep us there!
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Brian Lowery
12:30 AM on 07/30/2010
Wow, I must know you. Or you know me. Am I correct?
08:42 PM on 07/29/2010
Setting performance standards would be great if all students had the same education preparation before beginning school and the same aptitude. What this does is make schooling more political for teachers. Schools are able to load teachers that they don't like personally with underperforming students (this is done by principals routinely to punish teachers).
11:59 PM on 07/29/2010
Social elitism occurs early on!
02:04 PM on 08/01/2010
Exactly. It is far from a level playing field.
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07:57 PM on 07/29/2010
Finally! Something I can get behind this guy on!
08:50 PM on 07/29/2010
why does'nt he hold the thieving, lying and whoring politicians and wall street accountable!