Sen. Cardin: Obama Hasn't Been Transparent On Gitmo, Detainees

First Posted: 07/30/10 05:03 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:15 PM ET

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The inability of the Obama administration to follow through on its promise to close the detention center at Guantanamo Bay has largely been attributed to successful Republican (and Democratic) efforts to block funds for an alternate domestic facility.

But there is a far more complex legal argument that has complicated the process. And that involves figuring out a way to handle the so-called "fifth category" of detainees who are deemed too dangerous to release but too difficult to prosecute due to evidentiary issues. The president and his legal team have spent an enormous amount of time trying to come to some arrangement that would satisfy the administration's hope of closing Gitmo and obvious national security concerns. Several months ago, the Guantanamo Review Task Force outlined a process for judicial review of those individuals.

But even with progress (however marginal) frustrations have grown on Capitol Hill. In an interview with the Huffington Post last week, Sen. Ben Cardin (D-Md.) criticized the White House for sidestepping transparency (code word, perhaps, for civil liberties) with regards to its handling of the fifth category.

"[The White House] should have had an open and transparent way in which those who are going to be detained indefinitely are reviewed and that there is understanding internationally and acceptance internationally that we are complying with acceptable standards," said the Maryland Democrat.

"There's been two problems [with closing Gitmo]," he added. "Not only do we not have the money, we don't have the policy. I asked the Attorney General when we were going to have the policy and we don't have it yet. Whether at Gitmo or whether in Illinois [at the replacement facility], there's got to be some type of review and transparent process. We haven't put that in place yet."

Cardin, in the end, remains relatively optimistic that the administration will find a solution to the detainee issue, a sentiment that White House officials share more confidently today than several months ago. But that of course doesn't portend Gitmo's closure. Democrats who support the shutting of the detention facility fully acknowledge that there is no momentum behind the campaign anymore, with few votes to actually spend money on an alternate facility.

"It's frustrating to me because it's iconic," said Cardin. "I was there not too long ago... I guess a third of the [detainees] are in the process of being disposed of one way or the other. So you've got a hardcore number of 50, 60, something like that, they don't know exactly what to do with them. The best thing to do is to transfer them over to this Illinois facility that's going to be build and handle them there. Illinois is prepared to do it and have a due process, transparent -- not just in America but transparent internationally -- on how these individuals are classified and remain in custody. That's what they should do. That's what the president told me he was going to do. That's what the Attorney General told me he was going to do."

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08:45 AM on 08/01/2010
I cannot be proud of everything this President is doing. This is one of his lowest points. The on going wars is another. Not prosecuting Bush et al is the most egregious fault he has.

Now they are signaling that they will come at him full force if they win either chamber this year.

Ken Starr anyone?
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knerd
Trapped in a world he never made
09:09 PM on 07/31/2010
Good on them!
Keep standing up and fighting for what you believe in, gentlemen!
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advocatusdiaboli
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09:02 PM on 07/31/2010
"And that involves figuring out a way to handle the so-called "fifth category" of detainees who are deemed too dangerous to release but too difficult to prosecute due to evidentiary issues."

Evidentiary rules? What like no evidence? that can only be the reason.
In other words--we just "know" they are guilty before any trial even though we have no evidence! This should be an international human rights scandal. I thought the new president was going to repair our reputation around the world, not continue to bury it.
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advocatusdiaboli
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08:59 PM on 07/31/2010
And that involves figuring out a way to handle the so-called "fifth category" of detainees who are deemed too dangerous to release but too difficult to prosecute due to evidentiary issues.

Why does this sound like something St@lin or Hitl3r would do? And we have the nerve to condemn Ir@n over human rights?
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07:27 PM on 07/31/2010
The Obama Admin. needs to follow the law, no charges means that your free to go, so have the CIA drop them off where they were picked up. When they were picked up and moved from torture site to torture site, No One was asking Congress for money, why do they need to now, thats a straw dog.

The “New Normal” - ACLU report on Obama’s first 18 months.

http://www.aclu.org/national-security/establishing-new-normal

PDF file -

http://www.aclu.org/files/assets/EstablishingNewNormal.pdf
06:32 PM on 07/31/2010
It's the senators who voted against closing Guantanamo because they don't want "terrorist" in their backyard. It's easy to bash the president but how about the politicians who actually hindered to move this thing along? What is your modus operadi Senator cardin?
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advocatusdiaboli
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08:57 PM on 07/31/2010
Let the ones with no evidence against them go--that's what Obama can do if he believe in human rights.
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fnordlord
05:45 PM on 07/31/2010
It's about time.

Thank you Sen. Ben Cardin.
05:41 PM on 07/31/2010
hey senator what are you doing to aid the process .other than running your mouth.
03:08 PM on 07/31/2010
Yes, lets keep these "detainees" in legal limbo! I guess that's a ephemism for held without charges and without trial indefinately!

Why don't we just take them all out and shoot them! I'm sure that will show the world how serious we are about our goals and desires! I know we wouldn't have any trouble finding a firing squad but finding an anonymous one might be hard! I'm sure the detainees would probably welcome death to the type of life they are living now! Imagine being "arrested", jailed, tortured, and never charged or tried. You get to live forever in shackles and chains. You get to wear a hood when the jailers take you out of your solitary cell. And you never get to find out what you did!

American Justice!
12:03 PM on 07/31/2010
Worth the read.
ACLU: Obama in danger of establishing "New Normal" with worst Bush era policies.
http://www.aclu.org/national-security/establishing-new-normal
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fnordlord
05:40 PM on 07/31/2010
Fanned.
11:34 AM on 07/31/2010
Sen. Cardin, along with a majority of Democrats in the Senate such as Schumer and Brown, should realize that the Party of Obama is just the left wing of the corporatocratic party where the GOP is the right wing. Those congresspersons like Sen. Cardin, Sen. Brown, Rep. Weiner, Rep. Frank, Rep. Grayson, etc. should break away from the Democratic Party and form a truly Progessive Party. This would have the advantage of clearly pointing out to the people that conservatives and reactionaries are still the majority party and that they retain control of Congress and the White House. Progressives could then work to achieve a TRUE majority in Congress and elect a true progressive to the White House. This division of conservatives and reactionaries between the two parties is an effective divide and rule strategy of the neocons and reactionaries. It confuses the political dialog (which is what the reaction desires) and misleads the voter to think that when they place Democrats in a majority that they are also placing progressives in the majority. As we have seen the last 18 months, this is far from the truth. The nation needs a political restructuring and it would be most effective is sitting legislators such as Sen. Cardin formed a Progressive Party. For a while they would be in the minority, but a large enough minority in the Senate that they can use to GOP "filibuster all" technique to prevent a reactionary run-away with government.
08:05 AM on 07/31/2010
Jump on in there Senator,,,,I guess you figure the Party of "NO" isn't giving him enough bulls---!
03:12 AM on 07/31/2010
"we don't have the policy.".......they don't have the policy because they have to undo all the unconstitutional processing first and how do you do that when there is no paper trail, no Miranda rights, no nothing. LOL how do you undo something that hasn't been done transparent or not.
11:16 PM on 07/30/2010
Ooohhh..you mean transparent...like Bush was????

You know..you fargin republitards..and run this country economically into the ground..and you're worries about some gitmo detainees..WTF...democrats were concerned about the Torture of them...but since we stopped that and moved onto more important things...

GET REAL REPUBLITARDS!!! Your extinction is coming in November.
Good riddance.

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12:22 AM on 07/31/2010
But he ran on the platform of transparency, didn't he? One of his stances was closing Gitmo. Amazing how many people keep giving him a pass on so many of the things he ran his campaign on that was obviously lip service to get votes. Hope and change my eye! I voted for the guy, too.
01:31 AM on 07/31/2010
Did you read the article ? If you did you have a comprehension problem ! You mean campaign promises like " I am not a nation builder " ? " I am a compassionate conservative " ? " I will restore decency and ethics to the WH "?
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11:06 PM on 07/30/2010
So mentioning = hammering these days?

Why do you have to attempt to sensationalize everything?

Every time someone says anything, they are said to be " ripping" "blasting" or "hammering" someone else. More often than not that isnt the actual case.
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01:59 AM on 07/31/2010
Don't forget one of the favorites "mocking."
05:38 PM on 07/31/2010
good point