Bill Kristol: Republicans Should 'Just Shut Up' About Charlie Rangel's Ethics Charges

First Posted: 08/01/10 11:45 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:15 PM ET

Charlie Rangel Ethics

Some conservatives on Sunday pointed to New York Congressman Charlie Rangel's ethics charges as evidence that Democrats had failed to "drain the swamp" in Washington. Activist Liz Cheney, for example, accused Rangel of "real imperial arrogance."

But even as the GOP piled on -- and Democrats established their distance -- there were those in the Republican tent who expressed caution about suddenly becoming ethical crusaders.

"Just shut up," the Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol said on "Fox News Sunday" when asked what Republicans should do about Rangel. "There is a bipartisan ethics committee. Let the process go forward they don't need jump on this -- they will just get questioned. Believe me there are plenty of congressman in both parties who have been imperial and arrogant and who have centers named after them ... The idea that republicans should go around throwing stones at Charlie Range; is just foolish on their part."

Even before Kristol's remarks, other Republicans exhibited caution too. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), for one, was forced to sidestep questions about the various ethics scandals involving fellow Senate Republicans -- notably John Ensign (R-N.V.) and David Vitter -- during a sit down with "Fox News Sunday."

"I think it's important for members of Congress to have the highest possible ethical standards," he said. "And a number of members over the years got in trouble, some have them have had to leave Senate as a result of it."

And when pressed to place the Rangel ethics charges in the context of the 2010 elections, McConnell declined.

"Spending too much, taxing too much, borrowing too much and their job killing programs are what's on the mind of the American people," he said on Sunday.

While McConnell was hesitant to jump on Rangel, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) could not resist.

"I expect, and the American people expect, the highest ethical standards from their members of Congress," Boehner said, sitting alongside McConnell on Fox News. "Nancy Pelosi said four years ago that it was time to drain the swamp. I can't believe it's taken some two years to investigate the Charlie Rangel case. But the fact is she has not kept her promise. The swamp is alive and well."

Host Chris Wallace suggested that Boehner might be on shaky ethical ground by setting up a so-called cash-for-Speaker program in which the National Republican Congressional Committee was soliciting major donations in exchange for offering access to the minority leader.

Rangel is facing ethics charges, in large part, because of the tougher ethics rules that Democrats have put in place. In a different Congress, the New York Democrat might have flown under the radar or simply received a slap on the wrist. Was it not a signal of success that a trial was set to happen much to the detriment of the party in power?

"When I came in, I said we're draining the swamp. And we did. We have passed the most sweeping ethics reform in the history of the Congress" House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) told ABC'S "This Week." "Any personal respect and affection we may have for people makes us sad about the course of events, but we have to pull the high ethical standard and none of our personalities is more important than that."

As the Washington Post's Ceci Connolly noted: "[T]rials like that in September right before the mid-term elections would be an enormous liability for the Democratic Party no matter how much they talk about how they did, in fact, create this new independent office to investigate these cases and it is, in fact, doing its job."

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Some conservatives on Sunday pointed to New York Congressman Charlie Rangel's ethics charges as evidence that Democrats had failed to "drain the swamp" in Washington. Activist Liz Cheney, for example,...
Some conservatives on Sunday pointed to New York Congressman Charlie Rangel's ethics charges as evidence that Democrats had failed to "drain the swamp" in Washington. Activist Liz Cheney, for example,...
 
 
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soitgoes12 03:03 PM on 08/01/2010
The family values Party:

Bob Barr, Republican Congressman from Georgia. Sponsored the anti-g.ay Defense of Marriage Act, saying "The flames of hedo.nism, the flames of narcissism, the flames of self-centered morality are licking at the very foundation of our society, the family unit." Was married three times. Paid for his second wife's abortion. Failed to pay child support to the children of  Read More...
03:07 PM on 08/07/2010
And while it's entirely legitimate for the Congressional Ethics committee to bring Rangel up on charges, and if Maxine Waters has screwed up - then bring her up as well.
But, does anyone other than me remember Jack Abramoff, and Tom DeLay and Dusty Foggo and Ralph Reed, and the hundreds of millions of dollars they collected/stole from various clients for the explicit purpose of driving specific legislative decisions.
It's all very well for the GOP to claim that Nancy Pelosi hasn't finished draining the swamp, but please remember gentlemen - and I use the term loosely - how deep the muck was that was left sitting in that swamp when we ran you out of town on a rail.
As Jar Jar Binks would say - "Exqueeze Me." I can still recall quite clearly how bad it was when you guys ran the show - so gloating would be perhaps just a tad hypocritical?"
I know, I know, I'm expecting too much ....
11:31 PM on 08/02/2010
Off Topic: This past weekend I visit a friend who lives in Rangel's complex. They were having a little celebration called Lenox Terrace Family Day - nice music. An hour into it, who do I hear through the window on the mic pandering for support but Rangel himself.

A little while later, another friend calls me and says he saw Rangel in the Key Food supermarket after his humble pandering act. He told me a young adult approached Rangel and asked if he was "Charles Rangel," Rangel tells him in his very elitist, entitled, arrogant voice, "you know da-.mn well who I am." After the cashier rings up Rangel's groceries, he then demands to get them for free, she looks at him incredulously and calls the manager who gives this criminal the OK. All the while he's holding up the line.

He's truly priceless.
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ZeraLee
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09:52 PM on 08/02/2010
Rangel lost his chair on Ways and Means months ago, so at least that part of the swamp was drained. He should retire before he finds himself the last men standing in a game of musical chairs.

I have to wonder at the timing of the ethics committee.
07:21 PM on 08/02/2010
How bout we roll out war crimes trials for the last administration now? Would be nice coming on the heels of the Wikileaks expose.
08:58 PM on 08/02/2010
grow up...you are a disgrace
10:13 PM on 08/02/2010
Best response I could have thought of for the above...

Kai
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11:45 PM on 08/02/2010
pretty harsh, dude. watcha scared of?
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11:23 PM on 08/02/2010
An obvious and excellent idea.
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05:56 PM on 08/02/2010
Da** liberal media! Why all the talk about Ensign and Vitter, oh, its on Rangel and Waters, oh ok, for a minute there I thought the whole truth was being reported, my bad.
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Dosadi
Political agnostic
02:11 AM on 08/03/2010
LOL!
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05:12 PM on 08/02/2010
The smartest thing said all day by GOP.
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gevan
the pilgrim has landed
04:55 PM on 08/02/2010
"The swamp is alive and well." So Boehner thinks he should be made croaker in chief.
08:59 PM on 08/02/2010
YES....criminals like Rangel get what they sow eventuall;y..just like Water's and any Republican's that do wrong too.....I am sick of politicans thinking they are above the law
11:21 PM on 08/02/2010
Agree - corruption crosses party lines and needs to be dealt with fairly and decisively by leadership in both parties.
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11:56 PM on 08/02/2010
Unless they're repubs , right?
04:52 PM on 08/02/2010
There are plenty of issues on both sides of the isle. Hopefully each party will purge itself of those who are their for themselves and their buddies rather than the citizens.
09:00 PM on 08/02/2010
AMEN!
03:36 PM on 08/02/2010
So- now republicans are as
Pure as the driven snow? Lee hartgrave journalist
09:00 PM on 08/02/2010
No...but Rangel got caught...Tough beans
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Dosadi
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02:13 AM on 08/03/2010
Uh, Rangel asked the committee to investigate things such as his tax situation after he paid the taxes. In fact it was Rangel who informed the committee about his taxes. No republican is that truthful or patriotic.
02:16 PM on 08/02/2010
Kristol is an intelligent man who recognizes a political limb that stands a high risk of breaking under weight when he see's one.
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LucieLee
Stand up and be counted...
01:30 PM on 08/02/2010
I never thought I would ever agree with Bill Kristol....but "people who live in glass houses......" "...shouldn't throw stones....." Until you clean your own house... Just SHUT UP!!....Republicans!
03:17 PM on 08/02/2010
No, Repugnicans, just keep mouthing off about Rangle. And listen to the moronic Tea Party--their candidates are going to do just wonderfully in the fall. . .
09:01 PM on 08/02/2010
NO...any croruption should be outed loudly...no matter which side it is on...We need to get some HONEST people in office...if that is even possible
10:16 PM on 08/02/2010
I agree - whoever is being brought up on charges needs to be talked about - doesn't matter what side they are on. When the trials go on, they should be on Cspan. We all wanted transparency. It won't be pretty.

We must remember though, innocent until proven guilty. And if guilty, appropriate punishment and resigning from their post.

On the other hand, I don't think any of this - again, on either side - should be a ding against the party. It's a man - an individual issue - it's that person's ethics that is bad, not necessarily the rest of the party. I've never liked the assumption that peer pressure should be a catalyst in any situation. It's all about individual accountability.
12:59 PM on 08/02/2010
Hey, what's a little extortion, blackmail, theft, and tax evasion between friends?

Too bad for Rangel, he'll get a minor verbal dressing down, then keep his job, his appointments, and the power than let him extort this funding in the first place... you didn't think the Democrats would actually punish him for this did you?

"Rangel is facing ethics charges, in large part, because of the tougher ethics rules that Democrats have put in place."

Yep, and after doing hundreds of thousands in taxes and skimming millions from companies he was extorting funds from, while holding decisions against them in the ways & means committee in the balance; he's risking, worst case, a minor reprimand.

OOOH, those new Democrat driven ethics charges can get someone to give a reprimand? Wow. I'm sure Congress will shape right up and end all the corruption, embezzlement, theft, blackmail, bribery, and extortion to avoid the horror of a minor verbal reprimand...

FEAR THE REPRIMAND! ... I'm not seeing the fear.

Guys, feel free to give me a million dollars in shady money; and a reprimand to "punish" me for taking this money. Seriously, I'll risk the reprimand, I'm just cool and tough like that. Maybe Bill Kristol and Sam Stein fear a reprimand so badly that they'd never do anything shady; but I'm a rebel; I'll risk even a written reprimand and a requirement for a verbal apology... Yeah, I'm hardcore.
03:20 PM on 08/02/2010
You are son biased that you will not see reality -- Rangle is getting more that a reprimand under the new Democratic Party ethics rules. That's a fact, and your screed is BS.
11:13 PM on 08/02/2010
I just read a couple of your other comments (Repugnicans, moronic Tea Party) - you're a good one to call somebody else biased
09:01 PM on 08/02/2010
It is pretty stupid huh
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My karma will run over your dogma
12:12 PM on 08/02/2010
This seems to be a good time to repost this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSF4O8BYq4s
Tell me Boehner wasn't sh*tfaced when he did this. Maybe that explains some his memory lapses when it comes to ethical violations by his own party.
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azind
11:51 AM on 08/02/2010
You mean there are Republicans being investigated ? Some on criminal charges ? Do you mean Democrats are actually responsible for investigating their own? Someone better tell that to the daytime line-up at MSNBC and the MSM. With all the Republican spin being put on this story by the media the Republicans don't have to say anything. Once again the media carries their story line for them.
09:02 PM on 08/02/2010
whatever..the dude is dirty
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Nat Irvin
11:44 AM on 08/02/2010
I am convinced that the republican party does not ever want to win again...not ever...
11:48 AM on 08/02/2010
well good for you
Grunty1
Micro-bio this
01:25 PM on 08/02/2010
These people never winning again would be good for just about everyone.
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dragonlady620
My karma will run over your dogma
12:14 PM on 08/02/2010
Then where is all that PAC money going?
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psmarc93
Mean people suck
01:12 PM on 08/02/2010
Well, it comes from a tiny, tiny minority of rich Americans and mega-corporations into their puppets' pockets at the Republican Party. Whether or not that money can get a simple majority of all American votes is doubtful, and it's votes that count. Sure Republicans can expect a few more seats this year, but not majorities by any possible measure, and expect them to lose again in 2012, and once the clown car of Republican Presidential candidates unloads --- Obama is sure to win again.
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Yes yes, I know my Micro bio is still empty
03:34 PM on 08/02/2010
Strippers.