Ground Zero Mosque Site Denied Landmark Status

KAREN MATTHEWS and BETH FOUHY   08/ 3/10 06:54 PM ET   AP

Ground Zero Mosque

NEW YORK — A city panel Tuesday cleared the way for the construction near ground zero of a mosque that has caused a political uproar over religious freedom and Sept. 11 even as opponents vowed to press their case in court.

The Landmarks Preservation Commission voted unanimously to deny landmark status to a building two blocks from the World Trade Center site that developers want to tear down and convert into an Islamic community center and mosque. The panel said the 152-year-old lower Manhattan building isn't distinctive enough to be considered a landmark.

The decision drew praise from Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who stepped before cameras on Governor's Island with the Statue of Liberty as a backdrop shortly after the panel voted and called the mosque project a key test of Americans' commitment to religious freedom.

"The World Trade Center site will forever hold a special place in our city, in our hearts," said Bloomberg, a Republican turned independent. "But we would be untrue to the best part of ourselves, and who we are as New Yorkers and Americans, if we said no to a mosque in lower Manhattan."

The vote was a setback for opponents of the mosque, who say it disrespects the memory of those killed at the hands of Islamic terrorists on Sept. 11, 2001. Jeers and shouts of "Shame on you" could be heard after the panel's vote.

The American Center for Law and Justice, a conservative advocacy group founded by the Rev. Pat Robertson, announced it would challenge the panel's decision in state court Wednesday.

ACLJ attorney Brett Joshpe said the group would file a petition alleging that the landmarks panel "acted arbitrarily and abused its discretion."

The proposed mosque has emerged as a national political issue, with prominent Republicans from former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to former House Speaker Newt Gingrich lining up against it. The Anti-Defamation League, the nation's most prominent Jewish civil rights group, known for advocating religious freedom, shocked many groups when it spoke out against the mosque last week.

The League said building the Islamic center "in the shadow of the World Trade Center will cause some victims more pain – unnecessarily – and that is not right."

Bloomberg said Tuesday that denying religious freedom to Muslims would play into terrorists' hands. He said firefighters and other first responders who died in the Sept. 11 attacks had done so to protect the U.S. Constitution.

"In rushing into those burning buildings, not one asked, 'What god do you pray to? What beliefs do you hold?'" Bloomberg said of the first responders. "We do not honor their lives by denying the very constitutional rights they died protecting."

Former Rep. Rick Lazio, a Republican running for governor of New York, attended the commission meeting with a handful of opponents to the mosque, which is being developed by a group called the Cordoba Initiative.

"This is not about religion," Lazio said. "It's about this particular mosque called the Cordoba Mosque, it's about it being at ground zero, it's about it being spearheaded by an imam who has associated himself with radical Islamic causes and has made comments that should chill every single American, frankly."

Lazio said the group's imam, Feisal Abdul Rauf, had refused to call the Palestinian group Hamas a terrorist organization. Rauf also said in a "60 Minutes" interview televised shortly after Sept. 11 that "United States policies were an accessory to the crime that happened."

The Cordoba Initiative says on its website that its goal is to foster a better relationship between the Muslim world and the West, "steering the world back to the course of mutual recognition and respect and away from heightened tensions."

"We believe it will be a place where the counter-momentum against extremism will begin," the imam's wife, Daisy Khan, told The Associated Press Friday. "We are committed to peace."

The center's board will include members of other religions, the project's backers said. There also will be a Sept. 11 memorial to the victims of the attacks, Khan said.

The commission's decision not to designate the existing building as a landmark means that the developers can tear it down and start from scratch. If the building had been declared a landmark, they could have created a smaller mosque and community center there.

A partner in the project, SoHo Properties, bought the property for nearly $5 million. Early plans call for a 13-story, $100 million Islamic center.

Cordoba wants to transform the building into a glass tower with a swimming pool, basketball court, auditorium and culinary school besides the mosque. The center, called Park51, also would have a library, art studios and meditation rooms.

Landmarks Commissioner Stephen Byrns said the building's proximity to ground zero and the fact it was struck by airplane debris during the Sept. 11 attacks don't qualify it as a landmark.

"The debris field around ground zero was widespread, and one cannot designate hundreds of buildings on that criterion alone," Byrns said.

SoHo Properties CEO Sharif El-Gamal said he was "deeply grateful to the landmarks commission and to its staff."

Park51 spokesman Oz Sultan said there was no timeline for starting demolition or construction, adding the building phase was expected take 18 to 48 months.

"It's going to be something that fits in with the New York skyline," he said.

While landmarks commission members went over the existing building's architectural features such as cornices and colonnades, some in the audience of about 60 at Pace University in lower Manhattan held signs telegraphing their opposition.

Linda Rivera's sign read, "Don't glorify murders of 3,000. No 9/11 victory mosque." She cried after the board's vote.

"I lost 3,000 American brothers and sisters, including courageous policemen and firemen, and this is a betrayal," she said.

But Zead Ramadan, president of the board of the New York chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said Islam is "a religion of peace and justice."

"The people here are trying to connect this vile attack on our nation to the religion Islam," he said, "though that exact act stands against everything that Islam stands for."

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Associated Press writer Cristian Salazar contributed to this report.

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stopthemadness69 02:15 PM on 08/03/2010
I just don't get it?
I thought this was a country with freedom of and from religion? Who in the heck do we think we are that we can tell the second largest religion on the planet that they can't build a cultural center and/or church in a free country?
Are the hundreds of muslim that were killed on 9/11 somehow less important than the catholics or christians or athiests or baptists or  Read More...
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John Kramarz
09:16 AM on 08/09/2010
" Rauf is backed by numerous groups who have the power to incorporate Sharia law into our Constitution."

Again, so what? This is ridiculous! "numerous groups with the power..." huh??? If this is true, couldn't they do this ANYWAY, whether they built a mosque, a convenience store, or nothing? Won't they have $100 million less in their legal coffers by building the Mosque?
Aren't their OTHER religious groups that have the "power to change US law" according to your definition? Surely the Vatican has money, and would love to bankroll the already existing Christian groups in making abortion illegal? And hey, these Christian groups own PLENTY of real estate, one of your unexplained criteria for changing the US Constitution.
Also, Christian groups already hold the popular belief that our Constitution is based on Christian beliefs, and so why can't they get Abortion turned illegal, or Gay Marriage overturned for good? Are the Muslims just smarter?
11:42 PM on 08/09/2010
Actually, Christian groups have been using their power to chip away at Roe vs. Wade for years. There was the Hatch Amendment, Hyde Amendment, BAIPA, parental notification laws, The ban on partial-birth abortion, UVVA, MCP etc. Battles have raged over these pieces of legislation & executive orders. And why not? The public has a right to debate these issues, protest these issues when they perceive threats.

Any churches who are funded with money from radicals, let's say from abortion clinic bombers & abortionist murderers etc pose a threat to public safety, & can be protested & investigated, even if the majority appears to be non-violent, because even a few radicals getting cover from mostly non-violent churches are dangerous. I've seen mob families support churches with many in the community looking the other way. Legally, yeah, they had that right, but if people object, they also have the right to request, not demand, that the controversial contributors take their money elsewhere.
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John Kramarz
07:39 AM on 08/10/2010
Good, let's do the same with the mosque!
Let it be built, and wish them well. I'm sure many will be keeping an eye on it.
If they break the law, they get punished, and possibly forfeit their $100 million building. Too bad for them.
If the money is from radicals, GOOD! That's $100 million LESS to do acts of terror.
Besides, a physical piece of real estate is hardly necessary to influence laws and courts, as you fear. They'd be better off building it on K Street!
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John Kramarz
09:16 AM on 08/09/2010
Tessie Said:
“It's not like it's just one guy. Rauf is backed by numerous groups who have the power to incorporate Sharia law into our Constitution. They believe that U.S law is already foundationally compliant with Sharia, so they can build on that premise. The numerous groups that he is a prominent force in have the kind of money to file suits that can be interpreted to comply with Sharia. In a country that in recent years has been guilted into capitulating to fears of being accused of racial profiling instead of placing priority on public safety, and where our Supreme Court Justices say we should adhere to foreign law, it wouldn't take much to get Sharia incorporated into American law. It can be fought yes, but only with a lot of money. Rauf seems to have an endless supply and he wields an awful lot of power.”
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LarBear
01:56 AM on 08/09/2010
How quicly we forget, or ignore, Muslims working in the Trade Center died also... And Heroric Muslim Responders died also....
04:48 AM on 08/09/2010
We are all aware of that fact. We also know that there are plenty of American Muslims who oppose the “Ground Zero mosque.”

M. Zuhdi Jasser, who served America in the U.S. Navy, rising to the rank of lieutenant commander, & is now president of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, has written of his opposition to the “Ground Zero mosque” stating: "The World Trade Center site represents Ground Zero in America’s war against radical Islamists who seek to destroy the American way of life. It is not ground zero of a cultural exchange.”

Stephen Schwartz converted to Islam at age 49, and is the Executive Director of the Center for Islamic Pluralism. Of the “Ground Zero mosque,” Schwartz has gone on record saying that “Cordoba House comes across as ‘grossly insensitive.’”

American Muslim leaders, like the Iraqi-born Zainab al-Suwaij of the American Islamic Congress (who went from guerrilla fighter against Saddam Hussein to American citizen, states that inept manipulation is the hallmark of Rauf, Khan, el-Gamal, and the rest of the “Ground Zero mosque” crowd.

This whole idea that if you are against this mosque you're a racist is wrong.
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John Kramarz
09:18 AM on 08/09/2010
Guess what? These people as well have NO SAY in determining what people can legally do or not do in the US. If they fought for us, then that's part of what they fought for.
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Klarsonent
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02:46 PM on 08/08/2010
We either espouse "freedom of religion" in this country or we don't. Which is it, folks?
12:29 AM on 08/10/2010
This isn't about freedom of religion.
04:14 AM on 08/07/2010
This is an outrage. Look at the top of the page, there is even a thing that says 60% of New Yorkers are against the mosque. WTF is wrong with this country? 60% against the mosque, yet they still build it. In California, the majority voted for Prop 8 to ban gay marriage. The people spoke! But yet they still overturn it. So much for the voice of the people and majority right?
Our leaders ignore us and do the total opposite of what we voted for.
Yes this is the land of the free but this is also a democracy! We voted and you need to obey us because WE THE PEOPLE have the power!
Do you not know that building a mosque is a symbol of victory?
Yes of course they are going to say Islam is a religion of peace and justice. But has their record shown that?
It's because of the religion of Islam that our two world trade centers collapsed and turned the whole world into the chaos it is in. Its because of radical Islamic terrorists that over 3,000 citizens and 5,000 U.S soldiers have died. And your going to really tell me that we are going to honor them by approving a mosque? Everyone I have spoken to is against this mosque. And rightly so. I have heard so many people say they are going to go blow it up if its build.

I think this is a horrible horrible thing.
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08:27 AM on 08/07/2010
What is wrong is that this country has RIGHTS. Its not a mosque, its a COMMUNITY CENTER and its NOT AT GROUND ZERO. We are a nation of Constitutional Law and that law guarantees rights regardless of the tyranny of the majority.

I can't understand why you are up in arms because Pat Robertson, the guy paying to fight this mosque, said the US deserved 9-11 because we are too tolerant of gay people. Robertson and his band of right wing Christian Yahoos LOVE the fact that America was attacked on 9-11 and love it as much as Osama Bin Laden. So go vent your phoney outrage at Pat Robertson for saying innocents deserved to die because we don't go Al Qaeda on gay people.

By the way, Obama was born in Hawaii.
07:59 PM on 08/08/2010
Few of the national parks and monuments commemorating America’s historic battlefields are so narrowly drawn as the defenders of the mosque would now define “Ground Zero.” Nobody who stood within that area that day would say that 51 Park Place is not within the location of the September 11 attacks.
The fact is that the groups behind the “Ground Zero mosque” / Cordoba House / Park51 chose the site explicitly for its proximity to Ground Zero, and then spent months boasting about it in the press.

• A December 8th, 2009, New York Times article stated, “The location [next to Ground Zero] was precisely a key selling point for the group of Muslims,” and quoted Rauf as noting that they got a property “where a piece of the [9/11] wreckage fell.” ASMA then touted the piece in its 2009 Year End Report.
08:00 PM on 08/08/2010
• A simple Google search of the Cordoba Initiative’s website reveals the phrase “Ground Zero” to be seeded throughout as a rather inept 1999-era SEO tactic to bring people looking for information about Ground Zero to the mosque promoters’ website.
• On May 5th and 6th, ASMA’s Daisy Khan was on her Twitter account, boasting first that the “new muslim center near ground zero gets unaminous vote of approval from community board one in downtown nyc,” and then that she had a “Media blitz day for ASMA / Cordoba [on the] muslim commuity center near ground zero.”
• On June 15th, Daisy Khan told the Washington Post’s Sally Quinn that “a divine hand” led to the Ground Zero proximity.
Following the eruption of popular anger over their plans, the “Ground Zero mosque’s” proponents are attempting to rewrite history. El-Gamal, as seen above, now tells interviewers that there’s no “Ground Zero” at the “Ground Zero mosque,” and Khan’s tweets have the same phrasing, but a rather different emphasis. From July 28th: a “muslim community center NEAR ground zero.”
This list could go on at some length, but this is sufficient to demonstrate that the “Ground Zero mosque’s” stewards aren’t unfairly tarred by the phrase: they wanted it. Everyone discussing this issue should face this fact squarely and honestly. It’s the “Ground Zero mosque” because it was conceived and intended as the “Ground Zero mosque.”
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08:35 AM on 08/07/2010
If you know people who have plans to blow this mosque up you have an obligation to report it to the FBI am hoping the moderators here will report your comment to the FBI and hopefully agents will come visit you and your terrorist buddies soon.

Osama Bin Laden threatens the same thing against Christian churches. What is the difference between the people your buddies you hearthreatening terrorism and OBL? Your buddies merely abominate a different religion to support your hatred and violence against mankind. My guess is that you are also making these threats otherwise you would have said something against these threats. This is not Talibaggistan, talibagger.
03:46 AM on 08/07/2010
Why is Mel Gibson silent when the right wing needs his voice at this time, more than ever?!?! Besides, who's going to complain about a racist misogynist when they're already linking arms with so-called leaders that either can't understand the First Amendment, or are disingenuously perverting American values to force their own twisted agenda?
07:49 AM on 08/05/2010
How many synagogues are there in Saudi Arabia? How many churches? Just asking.
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tj101
Hata ukinichukia la kweli nitakwambia
01:47 PM on 08/05/2010
Why are you comparing Saudi Arabia, an Islamic Monarchy, with our Free Nation?

Just asking.
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derived
10:54 PM on 08/05/2010
There's at least one church, according to Time: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1723715,00.html
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10:56 PM on 08/05/2010
whoops sorry, that's Qatar. OK it must be time for sleep! :)
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Hillbilly49
Don't tell me you are a Christian; let me guess.
09:16 PM on 08/04/2010
Today is a great day for liberty and religious freedom.

The right wing extremists lost their war today.

Bless her heart!
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Benhor
President Obama "I can't do it alone"
08:45 PM on 08/04/2010
Look here, Pat Robinson, ADL, AJC and others can have their objections al they want and still go to the courts if they so please, but let’s not get in to a bigotry by identifying who is American, we are all Americans “E pluribus unum. Out of many, one.”
In this country we are all equals under the constitution and as our President (then senator) rightly said in 2004 DNC speech “Well, I say to them tonight, there is not a liberal America and a conservative America — there is the United States of America. There is not a Black America and a White America and Latino America and Asian America — there’s the United States of America”.
No one has the right to say Muslims are any different from Atheist, we are Americans then Muslims and our pledge of alliance and loyalty is first and always to the USA and I’ m not interest what Saudis or Iranians or anybody else for that matter does or how they treat others.
Muslim Americans have unequivocal rights to worship wherever they please and build our mosques wherever we want if such place is legally owned. We don’t need any body’s blessings or praise.
Let’s keep the divisive right wingnuts trolls at bay and out of here, this is not religious forum and they can take their Anti-Islam bigotry somewhere else. And anybody who has a problem with this can crawl back to their hell hall with my wholehearted okay.
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09:20 AM on 08/06/2010
Whoever flagged this as abusive is insane.
10:37 AM on 08/08/2010
If people are going to have the power to scrubb the comments of others or flag comments as abusive on this site, I think that we should be able to see who is doing it. If trolls have been able to achieve moderator status and remove anything negative about SP, or any other opinion they don't agree with, I want to see who they are!!
08:20 PM on 08/08/2010
Branding everyone who opposes this particular Mosque as divisive right wingnut trolls, as Anti-Islam bigots who have no right to express their opinion in an open forum, demanding they must be kept at bay is bigotry.
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John Kramarz
09:25 AM on 08/09/2010
Relax, obviously not everyone against the mosque is bigoted or racist.
But also, if people WERE bigoted or racist, where do you think they would fall in the debate?
02:55 PM on 08/04/2010
HEY!!! Whoever is monitoring this category, would you please fix the glitch that keeps us from getting back to a commenter so that we can reply to their reply to us? God forbid that some of those nits should ever be allowed to think that they have gotten in the last word. Their egos would swell up bigger than all outdoors if they got the idea that they had driven us from the field of verbal battle.
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tbera
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12:52 PM on 08/04/2010
This does tend to inflame the wounds from 9/11, and I can well understand how people feel, but since I live in Iowa and not New York, I have no opinion really other than wishing some respected authority could put it all in perspective for us that aren't there. The citizens of New York should have the say about it. Maybe it is too soon... time is a healer...
09:36 AM on 08/04/2010
SIGH! Even Huffington Post, supposedly an open-minded, humanistic group, joins in the nonsense of calling this the "Ground Zero Mosque". It just adds to the hysteria. Whoever wrote that headline should publicly apologize.
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MatthewRobertson
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11:21 AM on 08/04/2010
Yes, it is sad. It is neither at Ground Zero nor is it a Mosque.
11:01 PM on 08/04/2010
It it's not about a Mosque, this has nothing to do with preserving religious freedom.
12:03 PM on 08/04/2010
You give the HP too much credit. Its headlines are often inaccurate and sensational. It is a tabloid.

Still, it's a good source once you get past the headlines.
04:56 AM on 08/09/2010
• On May 5th and 6th, ASMA’s Daisy Khan was on her Twitter account, boasting first that the “new muslim center near ground zero gets unaminous vote of approval from community board one in downtown nyc,” and then that she had a “Media blitz day for ASMA / Cordoba [on the] muslim commuity center near ground zero.”
• On June 15th, Daisy Khan told the Washington Post’s Sally Quinn that “a divine hand” led to the Ground Zero proximity. Following the eruption of popular anger over their plans, the “Ground Zero mosque’s” proponents are attempting to rewrite history. El-Gamal, as seen above, now tells interviewers that there’s no “Ground Zero” at the “Ground Zero mosque,” and Khan’s tweets have the same phrasing, but a rather different emphasis. From July 28th: a “muslim community center NEAR ground zero.”
This list could go on at some length, but this is sufficient to demonstrate that the “Ground Zero mosque’s” stewards aren’t unfairly tarred by the phrase: they wanted it. Everyone discussing this issue should face this fact squarely and honestly. It’s the “Ground Zero mosque” because it was conceived and intended as the “Ground Zero mosque.”
09:02 AM on 08/04/2010
I'm Muslim and even I think its inappropriate to build an Islamic centre two blocks from Ground Zero. And its not because I think Islam is to blame for 9/11. That isn't the case.

I just can't stand anyone hating us anymore than is already the case. How can the foundations of a centre that is supposed to promote love and peace start off in raw anguish?

Its incredibly classy of the NY City Panel to have allowed the project to go forward.

Its time for the Cordoba initiative to gracefully bow out of the project. That would garner more love and respect from fellow Americans for Islam and Muslims worldwide.
11:11 AM on 08/04/2010
Mr. Rehman,
I can't know what the Imam's true beliefs are. I do find some of his past associations questionable. That said, the choice of the name "Cordoba" was bound to inflame the topic. If he wanted a city name, why not "Alexandria"? Or, even better, how about simply calling it the "Muslim American Center for Understanding"?

Al-Andalus figures prominently in al Qaeda literature and the restoration of the Caliphate is a frequent theme. Historically informed Christians, especially any with experience of Muslim majority governments, are not going to react positively to that association. Yes, I am sure that American Muslims are not sitting around pining for the restoration of the Caliphate. Yes, I don't think American Muslims spend their weekends devoting time to the topic of "Cordoba". I wonder what resonance the Imam hoped for?

In any case, the mosque will be built, hopefully without a surplus of foreign funds and hopefully the Imam will be able to have an abundance of ecumenical outreach programs. He is going to need to shepherd this very well.

I
04:01 AM on 08/07/2010
You may not be familiar with the name Michael Morgan Hamilton, but a couple of years ago he wrote a book for National Geographic called Lost History, in which he related all sorts of stories about Muslims, Jews and Christians working, learning and serving together in Madrid, Seville, Cordoba and Toledo in the so-called Dark Ages. It is most enlightening.
I respectfully disagree with Mr Rehman, who advocates being a loser over fighting the good fight.
BTW, your associations are ridiculous fabrications on the scale of suggesting that Claudia Schiffer should be outed as a probable descendent of Nazis, etc etc.
. It's one building out of thousands in New York, not the frickin' restoration of the Caliphate.
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tj101
Hata ukinichukia la kweli nitakwambia
03:29 PM on 08/04/2010
Whoa. Please know that the majority of Americans are overwhelmingly for this Community Center. The only ones raising a stink is palin and her ilk. An @ngry and bitter group that feeds off of fear and misinformation.

They are but a tiny fringe minority...and there's a good reason why we call them The American Taliban.
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cascot
"I don't want to live my life being a color." MJ
08:08 PM on 08/04/2010
Actually, it seems that a lot of New Yorkers are opposed to the idea--can't blame them...
04:23 AM on 08/07/2010
I dont think you have any idea what your talking about to be honest. The top of the screen says 60% of New York is against it. And I think it should be New York's say.
And everyone I've spoken to is against it. It's a slap in the face to our troops.
08:16 AM on 08/04/2010
In the Ground Zero mosque debate, a vote for tolerance, freedom and the separation of church and state. www.eightfits.blogspot.com
07:54 AM on 08/04/2010
People who would scrap freedom of religion are a bigger threat to this country and our way of life than a pack of stone age radicals in the mountains of Afghanistan.
04:28 AM on 08/07/2010
Are you telling me that someone who is all for everyone being free worship what they want, but is offended at the idea of the religion that destroyed a building in New York and is now setting up their own building near by, is more threatening, then the people who actually bombed the building in the first place? Im just a little baffled. Because I see no threat from someone who feels threatened by a religion with a history of war and plane jacking. I mean I know it preaches love and peace. But just look up the history of the religion. I see more fear then love.
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tj101
Hata ukinichukia la kweli nitakwambia
01:45 PM on 08/07/2010
By your rules, i can now lump in all American christians with Scott Roeder and Eric Rudolph.

christians are terr0rists, too.