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Blackberry-Saudi Arabia To Share User Data In Deal That Could Set Precedent

ABDULLAH AL-SHIHRI   08/ 7/10 11:05 PM ET   AP

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RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — A preliminary agreement between the maker of the popular BlackBerry smart phone and the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, which government officials say grants them some access to users' data, will avert a ban on the phone in that country.

The pact involves placing a BlackBerry server inside Saudi Arabia, Saudi telecom regulatory officials said, and that likely will let the government monitor messages and allay official fears the service could be used for criminal purposes.

Bandar al-Mohammed, an official at the Saudi Communications and Information Technology Commission, told The Associated Press that BlackBerry maker Research in Motion Ltd. has expressed its "intention ... to place a server inside Saudi Arabia."

Even though RIM encrypts e-mails, the deal would open messages to Saudi surveillance, said Bruce Schneier, an author and chief security technology officer at British telecommunications operator BT.

RIM could be setting a worldwide precedent for how technology companies and governments get along. A number of countries see the devices as a security threat because encrypted information sent on them is difficult, it not impossible, for local governments to monitor when it doesn't pass through domestic servers.

Saudi security officials fear the service could be used by militant groups to avoid detection. Countries including India and the United Arab Emirates have expressed similar concerns.

But e-mails sent by BlackBerry users are encrypted only as they pass between phones and the company's servers, Schneier said. Within the server, messages must be unencrypted for sorting and distribution.

"It renders the encryption irrelevant to the Saudi Arabian government," Schneier said. "They'll read everything."

RIM, based in Toronto, declined to comment on the proposed deal Saturday, but referred to a statement it issued last week denying it has given some governments access to BlackBerry data.

John Sfakianakis, who uses three BlackBerrys operated by different telecom companies and is chief economist at the Riyadh-based Banque Saudi Fransi-Credit Agricole Group, said access to messaging, e-mails and the Web was interrupted for a brief period early Friday but was quickly restored. No reason was given for the interruption.

Schneier said the Saudi arrangement is similar to deals RIM has struck in Russia and China, and each time the company strikes a compromise, it undermines the argument that BlackBerry surveillance is technologically unfeasible.

"Now that they're doing it for small, oppressive countries – sure, everyone is going to ask for it," he said.

Al-Mohammed declined to provide more details of the continuing talks before an official announcement, which he said was expected soon.

A second Saudi regulatory official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the details of the deal, said tests were now under way to determine how to install a BlackBerry server inside the country.

The kingdom has been waging a crackdown for years against al-Qaida-linked extremists. The kingdom also enforces heavy policing of the Internet, blocking sites for both political content and obscenities.

"Whatever Saudi Arabia does will be followed by other countries in the region," Sfakianakis said.

"RIM is quite smart. They're seeing this is a very lucrative market. They don't want to take themselves out of this market," he added.

RIM says its technology does not allow it, or any third party, to read encrypted e-mails sent by corporate BlackBerry users. The consumer version has a lower level of security.

Canadian International Trade Minister Peter Van Loan confirmed Friday that Canadian officials were in talks with RIM and Saudi officials to try to avert a ban.

Critics maintain that Saudi Arabia and other countries are motivated at least partly by a desire to curb freedom of expression and strengthen already tight controls over the media.

The United Arab Emirates has announced it will ban BlackBerry e-mail, messaging and Web browsing starting in October, and Indonesia and India are also demanding greater control over the data.

Analysts say RIM's expansion into fast-growing emerging markets is threatening to set off a wave of regulatory challenges, as its commitment to keep corporate e-mails secure rubs up against the desires of local law enforcement.

Saudi Arabia's telecommunications regulator, known as the Communications and Information Technology Commission, announced plans for the ban on Tuesday, saying the BlackBerry messenger service "in its present state does not meet regulatory requirements," according to the state news agency SPA. It had been due to be shut off Friday.

BlackBerry phones are popular both among businesspeople and youth in the kingdom who see the phones' relatively secure communication features as a way to avoid attention from the authorities. Local media estimate there are some 750,000 BlackBerry users in the country.

"Over the past year and a half, its market presence has increased tremendously," Sfakianakis said, describing the devices as "a must" for doing business in Saudi Arabia.

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Associated Press writers Adam Schreck in Dubai, United Arab Emirates; Rob Gillies in Toronto and Christopher Leonard in St. Louis contributed to this report.

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09:04 AM on 09/06/2010
Google put profits ahead of every thing when it cut a deal with China, but that soon led to human rights abuse. Looks like RIM is now carrying out the same with Saudi Arabia plus the UAE.
Sarah James, http://twitter.com/sarahjames23
02:09 AM on 08/10/2010
Ok let me try this again. The fact that RIM is even CONSIDERING this is an outrage!! What of the potential risks to American users and the message we send to EACH OTHER, or to friends in Saudi Arabia? Why is Blackberry so blinded by greed that they have lost all patriotism? Islamic nations have never been our ally by any means, they are historically violent and their very religion teaches hatred of any non-muslim (don't believe me? Read the kuran). It disgusts me that Blackberry is willing to submit to the demands of such a small country, and any other for that matter. Someone in corporate needs to grow a pair, seriously!!

NOTE: Okay, I tried very hard to limit the strength of my speech on this comment from the last one, so please don't delete it this time. BELIEVE ME I feel MUCH stronger than what I let on here, but I'm trying to temper my comments in the interest of potential readers.
06:28 AM on 08/09/2010
@netwerg, That is exactly the type of ridiculous articles I am talking about. Wiretapping is no where close to the equivalent of breaking encryption. Oh and congratulations you can repost links from other uneducated sensationalist HuffPo 'writers' like Shelly Parker. Good for you.

@theassociator, your story has nothing to to with messaging being like to an unproductive trend and adds nothing to the conversation.
10:03 AM on 08/09/2010
There is no need to break any encryption when you have access to the BB servers.
03:47 AM on 08/09/2010
Apparently, the ban was caused more by the excessive time people spend on their Blackberry messaging all day however this reason was not listed to the public. Before people know it, messaging takes up more than half or their day. This unproductive trend is a problem to a well functioning society on the whole. Check my write up: http://bit.ly/ag8utk
02:18 AM on 08/09/2010
"U.S. authorities able to tap BlackBerry messaging" http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE67246V20100803
12:13 AM on 08/09/2010
@ jo smith456 are you really asserting that BlackBerry traffic can just be sniffed up with a good ole packet capture / wiretap? Are you sure your name is Jim Frankle and you don't write for Reuters? Your assertion that traffic can be monitored is correct, what you are wrong about is if encrypted data can be viewed and specifically as I noted previously for corporate data using the BlackBerry Enterprise Server that is completely impossible. Can someone with any actual proof that this has been done respond or is new age of reporting just a chorus of ridiculous speculation?
09:02 PM on 08/08/2010
What's the BIG DEAL? French government members and their advisors have been told not to use BlackBerry smartphones, for national security reasons.
http://www.infoworld.com/d/security-central/update-security-risks-prompt-french-blackberry-ban-812
For those not familiar with the backend of Internet communications, a lot of IT Security experts know that backend blackberry communication support servers are, most of the time, outside of the host country. This is not new. The concern of government (e.g. Saudi, etc.) is understandable. Many times, the transmission of blackberry messages go through network nodes that can be subjected to sniffing/tapping, etc. by those that include governments, etc. for any bogus, exaggerated, reasons, national security, terrorist, democratic, etc., etc.---

Certainly the US government does it too!!!
02:18 AM on 08/09/2010
Same in Germany because of this: "U.S. authorities able to tap BlackBerry messaging" http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE67246V20100803
07:07 PM on 08/08/2010
Total Information Awareness is global.

The 2002 movie Minority Report was set in 2054. At the pace we're on the world will get there decades earlier.
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joebaggadonuts
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05:51 PM on 08/08/2010
As if there were anyplace they couldn't already intercept your communications. Now house of Saud will see them too.
04:26 PM on 08/08/2010
RIM can't perform magic even if it's against the things they create. Read the globe and mail story about how the consumer service of BlackBerry is completely is not as secured as the corporate one and you'll understand that this is just all sensationalized nonsense. Yes I agree just because it isn't secure doesn't give a government a right to read it but if they're already doing it with other smartphones why is this any different? The bottom line is the corporate data using their BlackBerry Enterprise solution is safe. Period. If you don't want data exposed to anyone then don't use facebook, twitter, or respond to comments here on the HuffPo. Don't think they couldn't see the IP addresses of who posts content here if they wanted to.
peowlemeow
Democrat,non-military,undereducated,semi-retired.
03:31 PM on 08/08/2010
This crap and Raytheon getting 100 million towards cyber surveillance might explain why I get about 20 emails a week from 1969 to 2000 on my iphone.These pricks not only read over my shoulder they hold the pages until they're done.It's very annoying.
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MyTake
Release the Hydrogen Economy now!
03:18 PM on 08/08/2010
What the Saudi King wants, the Saudi King gets!

When the Saudi King wanted to fly his jumbo jet around the U.S. to pick-up his relatives on the same day that the U.S. downed all flights on 9/11, he just picked up the phone to George W. and got his wish.

So RIM getting down on bended knee before the King was a foregone conclusion. North American corporate interests do not stand on principle, they STAND ON PROFIT.

Why didn't the King just ask Obama to have the NSA supply him with all the Blackberry data going in and out of his Nation and just avoid all this blustering?
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GoDogGo
A fiscally realistic, socially progressive citizen
01:56 PM on 08/08/2010
Shameful. Totally, unequivocally shameful.

Let's be clear about the practical ramifications of this: Lives will be lost over RIM's caving to this extremist government's demands. Those seeking freedom and equality in SA will be jailed and tortured for sharing that radical aspiration with friends in a Blackberry message.

And for what? Market share. It's nauseating.
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robotfog
Victim of Technology
02:01 PM on 08/08/2010
they'll be okay if they don't use a blackberry
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GoDogGo
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03:17 PM on 08/08/2010
Just as dissidents will be okay if they don't use their voice?

Is that sarcasm?
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paulbenjouse
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11:57 AM on 08/08/2010
Blackberry caves in to the almighty dollar. Disgusting
10:55 AM on 08/08/2010
Blackberry. Selling out their customers to tyrants and killers. All for money. Shame on you.