Rep. Ellison: 'Gibbs Crossed The Line'

First Posted: 08/10/10 03:18 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:20 PM ET

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Progressive Democrats fired back at Robert Gibbs on Tuesday, following the White House press secretary's sharp critique of what he called a "professional left" that is perpetually unsatisfied by President Obama.

"I hear these people saying he's like George Bush. Those people ought to be drug tested," Gibbs said in an interview with The Hill.

"They will be satisfied when we have Canadian healthcare and we've eliminated the Pentagon. That's not reality," he added. "They wouldn't be satisfied if Dennis Kucinich was president."

Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), an active member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, said Gibbs went too far. "This is not the first time that Mr. Gibbs has made untoward and inflammatory comments and I certainly hope that people in the White House don't share his view that the left is unimportant to the president," he said. "I understand him having some loyalty to the president who employs him, but I think he's walking over the line."

Ellison said that Gibbs's resignation would be an appropriate response. "I think that'd be fair, yeah. That'd be fair, because this isn't the first time. And, again, people of all political shades worked very hard to help the president become the president. Why would he want to go out and deliberately insult the president's base? And why would he confuse legitimate critique with some sort of lack of loyalty. Isn't this what the far right does? Punishes people who are not ideologically aligned with President Bush?"

It's wrong to suggest that progressives want to eliminate the Pentagon, said Ellison, adding that he doesn't know a single Democrat who has espoused that view. "I know of none. So I think that was an inflammatory remark that is emblematic of his careless use of language and is an example of why he may not be the best person for the job," he said. "Gibbs crossed the line. His dismissal would be fair."

Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), a civil rights legend who has been critical of Obama from a progressive direction, laughed at Gibbs's suggestion that liberal critics should be drug tested. "Should be drug tested? They think we're on something? Smoking something?" he said. "It's very hot in Washington and we've come back at a peculiar time. I just think we all just need to finish and get out of here."

Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.), the co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, also lashed out at Gibbs on Tuesday.

"I think before Gibbs or the White House points figures at liberals and progressives, they ought to check their own record," Grijalva told HuffPost. "The whole drug testing thing -- our dissatisfaction is based on [the fact that] we haven't met the expectations and we're hearing that from our base, period."

Grijalva was critical of the White House for abandoning the public insurance option during the health care reform debate, and for otherwise compromising too quickly with a Republican Party uninterested in bipartisanship. Gibbs had the misfortune of having his comments published on a day in August when the House is back in session and members of Congress are easily accessible to reporters. Gibbs has since walked back his criticism of what he deemed the "professional left."

"But two," said Grijalva, "that drug testing, if that's the case, would probably have to extend to 50 percent of the American population at this point. They're kind of feeling dissatisfied too."

That would require millions of drug tests, HuffPost noted.

"They can do hair follicles," quipped Grijalva.

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J.C. Convery
09:10 PM on 08/12/2010
He was legally obliged to bail out Wall Street thanks to TARP. Paulson basicly said the sky would fall if we failed to act without any conditions and the congress acted, unwisely but it was a crisis so such a piece of legislation was likely to pass and president Bush was likley to sighn it. It passed and Bush signed it but Obama had the unfortunate duty of enforcing that particular piece of legislative tripe bonuses and all. Failure to follow through with the legislation as written would have cost more than following it.

Please explain how Obama has supported BP at the expense of the American people. BP will be held accountable and rather than deal with 10 years of court battles he secured an arrangement which would provide restitution to those affected by the spill. Bankrupting BP which was unlikely because they have over 200 billion dollars in assets means they're off the hook for that restitution.
02:36 PM on 08/24/2010
Received this from a CPA.
The BP "settlement" was a bad deal for the US. The $20 billion escrow fund is funded over 4 years with only $7 billion paid in 2010.
I started analyzing the cash flow aspects of the settlement. BP' conducts US operations through a US subsidiary for US tax reasons.
BP voluntarily funds the escrow account without risk of enforcement. Generally accepted accounting principles require BP to book the $20 billion liability in 2010. Therefore, BP can claim $20 billion deduction on its US 2010 tax return and collect refundsof about $7 billion in 2011 on its 2010 tax return, including loss carry backs for 2005 through 2009.
BP suspended dividends, saving $7.5 billion in cash. US residents receive about 40% of these dividends (about $3 billion). US government loses 15 to 35% of the taxable amount.
RE the cash flow impact on BP in 2010:
Escrow funding ($7,000,000,000)
Dividend savings 7,500,000,000
Tax savings/refunds 7,000,000,000
Net BP cash flow $ 7,500,000,000

US cash flow from reduced tax receipts:
BP Corporation ( $ 7,000,000,000)
BP shareholders about ( 1,000,000,000)
Net cash flow ($8,000,000,000)
BP enjoys net favorable cash flow until 2012 when it knows its exposure and decides whether to bankrupt its US operations. Liability for the escrow balance is unsecured with no creditor preference, so the balance due may never be paid. Meanwhile, BP parent would not advance or invest in US operations and collect anything owed to the parent.
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J.C. Convery
08:21 PM on 08/11/2010
And you should probably be more concerned with holding the Independents whose votes matter.
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J.C. Convery
08:02 PM on 08/11/2010
Actually Gibbs needs to represent the POTUS to the people who really matter, Independents. If you really want to do anything that matters you need thier votes and being on the far left is not going to get them. The problem is that there many people out there that don't see the big picture, you dont get to change things when you're not in charge.
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07:51 PM on 08/11/2010
"They will be satisfied when we have Canadian healthcare and we've eliminated the Pentagon. That's not reality," he added. "They wouldn't be satisfied if Dennis Kucinich was president."

I'd love to eliminate the Pentagon and have a Canadian single payer healthcare system. Dennis Kucinich would make a much better President than the corporate shill currently occupying the White House.

Too bad Americans have given-up on the American experiment envisioned by the Founding Fathers. They never anticipated a corporate shill like Obama and a snake-oil spokesman like Gibbs.
12:02 AM on 08/12/2010
Have you been drug tested yet?
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06:40 PM on 08/11/2010
Well, this sounds like a blue-ribbon way to stop Obama's poll #'s from falling below the Now 41%.

Great idea Gibbs! :-)

We need more like Mr. Gibbs in the WH, Oh I forgot, we do.
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breaker581
Freedom with their exception...
03:44 PM on 08/11/2010
Final nail in the coffin for Obama? Over this past year he has lost moderates, Independents, whites, men and now grassroots progressives? Does his hubris know no bounds? His last remaining demograhic support are among women, minorities and young people under 30...at least until he thumbs his nose at them that is.

And yes Gibbs, I would take Kucinich in a heartbeat, or Ron Paul.
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gbfjonly
05:22 AM on 08/22/2010
Sometimes I agree with Ron Paul, sometimes I do not. One thing is for sure, though: I respect him for his straightforward way to communicate. He's one of the few politicians, dare I say in the whole world, that doesn't seem to be BSing us.

I also disapprove many of Obama's acts and policies as a president. But I also respect him for his communication skills, which for me are Ron Paul taken to an extreme. If he lies about his convictions, he's the best liar in the world. Remember: it's one thing to believe in something; it's a completely different thing to manage to convince sane and crazy people alike that what you believe is a good way to go. You can convince a few sane people here and there, but how could you make Sarah Palin and Mandela agree on something? You can't!

Not to mention media and public opinion, he's got 2 houses to get his ideas through. In one of these houses, Mr. Paul is fighting for the nutjobs. How hardcore-libertarian you've got to be to vote with Reps? Mr. Paul has the most conservative voting record on the House history - so says Wikipedia, I haven't checked.

So how exactly is Ron Paul "better" for the job? And let's not forget he's Rand's father.

Sometimes libertarians seem more devoted to their label than to a better future/world. Watching too much Glenn Beck yelling at'em could've caused that!
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02:13 PM on 08/11/2010
So much nonsense. Total charade. Biden probably figured it out himself. Problem - Bo is seen as too left wing radical. Solution - Accuse Bo of being too conservative! Brilliant!
12:29 PM on 08/11/2010
Yes on the health care, Gibbs ...but, for the rest, you are an A$$!

No sane person wants to get rid of the pentagon and insulting Dennis Kucinich shows that you have been bullied into stupidity by the right... as if we needed more evidence of that.

As for being better than Bush, yeah. That's like saying, "I'm a good mom because I don't turn trick to pay for my crack." How about setting the bar a wee bit higher... but that'll be hard to do since you basically endorsed torture by not prosecuting it.
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Amondale
12:36 PM on 08/11/2010
"...you basically endorsed torture by not prosecuting it."

OH! He// yeah, fanned and applauded.
01:11 PM on 08/11/2010
Thx. :^)
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JohnLorenzo
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06:22 PM on 08/11/2010
Like it! Fanned!
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Dukedraven
12:09 PM on 08/11/2010
I don't think Gibbs crossed the line. The only gaffe that he made was telling the truth. They are people on the left making money off their radical views, just like those on conservative talk radio. I don't think anything Obama does will satisfy the professional left.
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gbfjonly
05:33 AM on 08/22/2010
It amazes me that your comment was flagged as abusive. In my opinion, we should be able to see who flags what, and possibly flag users that flag obviously non-flaggable comments. [a lot of flags in this sentence].

Duke, I've just made the same point myself on a reply above. Ellison and Grayson seem pretty reasonable to me, but some commentators here are a good hint that attacking the president - even when unfairly or irresponsibly - might earn them some political points.

EDIT: Oh, now I see that somebody could have thought that 'professional left' was offensive. I think it's not. An offense is something more childish, like 'left that has a big fat mama'. 'Professional left' is as offensive as 'corporate shill', which a poster above got away without any flags [not even from myself - it's not offensive, it's just a strongly-worded opinion].
11:33 AM on 08/11/2010
or was it "snatching the taste of victory from the jaws of defeat"?
11:32 AM on 08/11/2010
Ellison is dead-on. No mincing words, there.

I wish there were more like him.
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01:28 PM on 08/11/2010
That's the solution to any chance of real change, electing more like him. It's not with the national party.
11:32 AM on 08/11/2010
I remember clearly in 2006,

It was the "Professional Left" who had a reputation of...

..."snatching the taste of defeat from the jaws of victory".

If the "Professional Left" believed in change, now is the time.

Get over it.
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01:36 PM on 08/11/2010
While Howard Dean held the DNC chair, candidates supported by progressive organizations fared much better than the DNC Emmanuel Blue Dog picks.

This year, the DNC/Obama Admin picked Blanche Lincoln over Bill Halter (who polled way better in a match up against the GOP candidate) for the AR Senate race. They trashed the unions for supporting Halter, the more populist pro-worker candidate. With their help, Lincoln won the primary but is now 20 points behind her Republican challenger.

That was a rather unnecessary and ignorant strategy that will cost them a coveted Senate seat and support from a reliable group that busts their butts to get out votes for Dems during election season.

It's evident the Professional Democrats have their own reputation for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
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ladyblug
What tangled webs we weave when we practice to dec
03:17 PM on 08/11/2010
I couldn't agree more.
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1088
11:12 AM on 08/11/2010
Right on Gibbs! I too I'm frustrated to see the left acting like Fox, Rush and Andrew Breitbart! Enough already!
11:16 AM on 08/11/2010
Way to go Gibbs...now try not to alienate the rest of the party in the next week.
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Actraiser
Medicare for all!
10:58 AM on 08/11/2010
The vitriol leveraged by Spokesman Gibbs against Congressman Kucinich is amusing.

Kucinich voted for this HCR whose hallmark was the individual mandate without a public option.

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2010/03/rep_dennis_kucinich_to_vote_xx.html

Howard Dean endorsed it, as well.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/73485--howard-dean-cites-gop-opposition-as-reason-to-pass-senate-bill

As well as top House Democrats.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/12/28/house-dems-ok-drop-govt-option/

Sure, the so-called liberals like Dean and Kucinich speak very nicely about public options, medicare for all, and single payer, but ultimately, they either voted for or endorsed this system where one is mandated to purchase private health insurance, with no public option.

Indeed, the President of the US, who Spokesman Gibbs works for advocated single payer. "I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program." Barack Obama speaking to the Illinois AFL-CIO, June 30, 2003.

Even Senator Lieberman touted affordable universal health care during his previous election, and he was the villain of the month last December.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/07/AR2006070700029.html

When Senators Lieberman and Lincoln went against the public option, Obama didn't pursue them ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/21/lieberman-obama-never-pre_n_399355.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/17/lincoln-obama-never-calle_n_502245.html

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Actraiser
Medicare for all!
10:57 AM on 08/11/2010
(continued from above)

But as we saw from the first URL, the President was very assertive in pursuing Congressman Kucinich!

So they all of these elected officials speak nicely of an affordable, universal system, or a government system, and all of them have voted for or endorsed the HCR without a public option, but with an individual mandate to purchase insurance from the very companies that have left patients to die, simply for a profit.

http://www.gazette.com/articles/rosa-101227-carrington-threatened.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62G2DO20100317

The employees even get rewards for denying people.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/17/business/fi-rescind17

So it is unclear why Gibbs is invoking Kucinich's name in this context. I can only conclude that it's either out of ignorance or deception.
11:17 AM on 08/11/2010
Gibbs spoke exactly what gets discussed in the oval office. That is why he is in trouble...
11:22 AM on 08/11/2010
I have a great deal of respect for Dr. Howard Dean.

I'm don't find Kucinich anywhere in the league of presidential contenders.

And I agree with Gibbs.

Regardless of how much has changed since we (and I don't just mean the "Professional Left") got rid of bush,

The "Professional Left" would still have issues even if Kucinich were President.
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Actraiser
Medicare for all!
11:37 AM on 08/11/2010
"The 'Professional Left' would still have issues even if Kucinich were President."

Key policies, most notably health care, endorsed by this administration are also endorsed by Congressman Kucinich, and the respectable Dr. Dean. Why wouldn't they?
12:04 AM on 08/12/2010
Yeeeaaaa!!!!