More

Avigdor Lieberman, Israeli Foreign Minister, Says No Extending Settlement Slowdown In West Bank

MOHAMMED DARAGHMEH   08/25/10 02:29 PM ET   AP

West Bank Settlements

RAMALLAH, West Bank — Dozens of men believed to be plainclothes Palestinian security personnel broke up a gathering of activists opposed to new Mideast peace talks on Wednesday, reflecting the Palestinian leadership's sense of vulnerability as it prepares to launch negotiations with Israel next week.

President Mahmoud Abbas has come under widespread criticism at home for caving in to U.S. pressure to join the negotiations without an Israeli pledge to freeze all construction on land claimed by Palestinians. The attempt to stifle dissent appeared to reflect concerns that the unhappiness could escalate into public unrest.

In the West Bank city of Ramallah, about 200 activists from various opposition groups had gathered in a meeting hall to issue a declaration opposing the peace talks when dozens of young men sitting in the audience stood up, hoisted posters of Abbas and shouted slogans in support of the Palestinian leader.

The meeting quickly broke up in a confused scene of shouting and finger-pointing, without any resolution being approved.

One of the organizers, independent lawmaker Mustafa Barghouti, and activists from other factions said the young age of the men, the well-organized nature of the protest and the fact that uniformed policemen were waiting outside to question activists showed the men were security officers.

The crackdown was a "stark violation of human rights by the Palestinian Authority," Barghouti said.

Adnan Damiri, a spokesman for the Palestinian security forces, denied the charge, but the official Palestinian news agency WAFA said Abbas has ordered an investigation into the incident.

One leading human rights group, Al-Haq, said police grabbed one of its members and confiscated his camera and injured another who came to his aid.

"Al-Haq has repeatedly denounced violations of human rights committed by Palestinian security forces. Today's incident is a further example of the increasing climate of violence and intimidation that is effectively transforming Palestinian society into a police state," the group said in a statement.

Abbas is under fire from many Palestinians for agreeing to speak directly to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who leads a hard-line government, especially without winning a complete halt to Israeli settlement construction.

Many Palestinians fear the Americans are biased toward Israel and that Abbas will come away from the negotiations empty-handed.

A 10-month slowdown in West Bank settlement construction by Israel is set to expire at the end of September, and the government is divided over whether to extend it. The Palestinians have warned they will pull out of the new round of negotiations if building is resumed.

Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, whose hard-line Yisrael Beitenu party is a major partner in the governing coalition, said Wednesday that maintaining tight restrictions on building would "punish" tens of thousands of Israelis living in the settlements.

"We don't need to create unnecessary conflicts but we don't need to punish and we don't need to fold either," he said.

Critics have accused the Palestinian Authority, which has repeatedly postponed elections, of creeping toward authoritarianism. Abbas' forces have periodically prevented rallies and protests of other groups perceived to be interfering with his political objectives. Early last year, West Bank police quickly broke up rallies protesting Israel's offensive in Gaza, which is ruled by Abbas' rivals in the militant Hamas movement.

Abbas, a political moderate who is supported by the West, has repeatedly cracked down on Hamas since it seized the Gaza Strip by force in 2007. He has always said the clampdown was linked to security concerns, and has denied restricting freedom of expression.

Abdel Rahim Mallouh, one of the organizers of Wednesday's opposition gathering, said the members had hoped to kick off a wider campaign against peace negotiations.

"The meeting is just a start. One of our options is going to the street and demonstrating against negotiations while settlements are being built," Mallouh said.

FOLLOW HUFFPOST WORLD

RAMALLAH, West Bank — Dozens of men believed to be plainclothes Palestinian security personnel broke up a gathering of activists opposed to new Mideast peace talks on Wednesday, reflecting the P...
RAMALLAH, West Bank — Dozens of men believed to be plainclothes Palestinian security personnel broke up a gathering of activists opposed to new Mideast peace talks on Wednesday, reflecting the P...
Filed by Nick Graham  | 
 
 
  • Comments
  • 758
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Comments are closed for this entry
View All
Favorites
Highlights
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2 3 4 5  Next ›  Last »  (11 total)
09:04 PM on 09/11/2010
You people are simply not living in reality if you think it plays out that way. It is either that, or you just want to blame Israel for everything. It must be so sad that the poor Arabs are bullied by Israel so much and never do anything to provoke it. I mean if Israel just backed off there would be peace in the Middle East, right? Maybe if they stopped launching rockets, or starting fights, things would be different. It is amazing how the entire world gets angry and is "watching" when Israel reacts to something, but stays silent when they are attacked. It is not so interesting on this site because people here would rather Israel be defenseless and destroyed than defend itself.
04:50 PM on 09/02/2010
same old / same old/ Israel steals more land/ whines/ plays the victim/ and steals more land.
The world is very tired of Israel. The USA must stop funding this bully.
09:23 PM on 08/31/2010
Oh yes, Israel wants to steal land, build settlements. Israel can have nuclear weapons, defy UN proclamations, and act like God's chosen. Too bad Israel can not join the human race as equals and respect the rights of others as equals. Israel should not be getting any $$ from the USA to steal land, bomb schools, and commit ethnic cleansing in Gaza. Peace talks are a joke with Israel as the exception to every rule of human decency.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Fred Ricardo
The white hat, Truth, Justices and theAmerican way
07:31 PM on 08/31/2010
Let the attacks on Israelis living on stolen West Bank land start. It is the only way to win back your land.
07:19 AM on 08/27/2010
Well this is what you get when you are in hock to extremist settler groups.
Caught between a rock and a hard place.
Such third rate politics played out by a fifth rate cast.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Alex Young
07:03 PM on 08/26/2010
to the anti israel and pro israel factions, whether you like it or not, Israel exists.

you can rehash history all you wish, but that will not change today's reality.

the world will not permit ''the holocaust II" and 6 millions jews are not going to go away.

i suggest we ALL make the best of the situation and deal with it.

if we don't, we will never see peace only more death and destruction.

compromise is the only solution.

neither side will be 100% satisfied, but we will come to accept it and learn to live with it.
photo
Greg Mirsky
Riga dimd, Riga dimd, Kas to Rigu dimdinaj?
08:28 PM on 08/26/2010
Very realistic! Bravo!
But I'm not certain on your assumption #3 RE: "world". What is "world"? UN? EU? These two are absolutely impotent. All and every UN military involvement in Arab-Israel conflict failed miserably. USA? Current Administration will not act as Nixon's in 1973 in crucial hours of Yom Kippur war.
"Israel, IDF will not permit Holocaust II ..." to me seems closer to the reality of modern world. Israel can not and should rely on the "world", in any interpretation, as guarantor of its security.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Alex Young
04:21 PM on 08/27/2010
i agree.

by ''world'', i meant to refer to communications.

the advances made in technology can be used by the media to inform and by the user to research.

the majority of the people of the world have access to information on a real time basis and can not claim plausible deniability of events.

i believe there are sufficiently moral and decent people of all races and faiths, etc. that would make their voices heard.

it is true that i oppose many of the actions of israel that i view as brutal and immoral, and i speak out.

however, if israel's security and existence are threatened, i do not hesitate to defend her and her people.

if there was one message i could convey, it would be that there are vastly fewer antisemitics than many jews imagine.

they are still many targeted groups and bigots do exist.

there are ignorant, hateful people that are antisemitic and they are extremely vocal.
but they are a small minority.

we are an evolving civilization and education and civil discussions will , in time, show us we have more to gain by cooperation and understanding.

to deny this, is to deny the future of mankind.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Alex Young
06:12 PM on 08/28/2010
''But I fight back those who try to kill me. ''

just curious...

has anyone actually tried to kill you - up close and personal ?

everyone copes the best they can, and if they live , they learn to deal with it.
there is no right or wrong.

i refuse to be a victim.
i am a survivor.

i will not live in fear and i will not let my life be changed
i will not give any power or one moment more of my time to some pathetic psycho.

there is great wisdom in a statement made by David Ben-Gurion :

“Courage is... the knowledge of how to fear what ought to be feared and how not to fear what ought not to be feared.”
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
IDF
08:45 PM on 08/26/2010
"you can rehash history all you wish, but that will not change today's reality."

Too rational of a thought for HP posters.

There are 6 million Jews living in Israel, non of us is going anywhere.

There are about 3 to 4 Million Palestinians they are not going anywhere either.

The options are war or peace. I think 70 years of fighting is enough. Many here would love to see Israel disappear, but that's not going to happen, so we are left with the only one sane option which is peace agreement with two states living side by side.

I know we have a radical right wing government, but within the Likud party there are many "Closet Peacenics" Some of them are beginning to speak up. Bibi has the capacity to surprise everybody just like Begin and Sharon.

The economic potentials in a new middle east are endless. A little more focus on the future and a much needed break from the past can motivate both sides to reach an agreement. Many times in life there are situation that the option of being smart is much better than being right.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
02:11 PM on 08/28/2010
it needs to be one state, the two state idea has only brought decades of war.
05:48 PM on 08/26/2010
Conditions on the ground,

1. Right wing government in Israel.
2. Palestinian ina state of civil war
3. Gaza-- run by Iranian puppet regime fanatics.
4.. The most powerful Arab states are now tacitly cooperatiing with Israel against the main threat in the Middle East-Iran and their proxies-- Hezbollah and Palestinain rulers of Gaza

5. Incompetent and indifferent American admin (Bush ) has been replaced by incompetent and detached fromn reality U.S. Admin.( Obama).
6. Chances of Israeli gov,. offering more than desperate Clinton and Barak at Taba and Cap David --- Zero.
7.Chances for comprehensive conflict resolution zero.

Realistic road map
There is a very good chance for W. Bank Palestinians to get a bigger degree of autonomy and independence. Defeat of intifada and current prosperity helps, of course.

Future: At some point in time when Palestinians get a strong leader who truly represents all Palestinians and is a better politician than Arafat, the conflict can be resolved. to marginal satisfaction of both parties.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
09:26 AM on 08/28/2010
"5. Incompetent and indifferent American admin (Bush ) has been replaced by incompetent and detached fromn reality U.S. Admin.( Obama)."

Bush was incompetent yes, but not indifferent. Like almost all U.S. politicians, Bush was biased in favor of Israel. When Israel invaded Lebanon in 2006 I recall Bush talking to Arab leaders but not to Israel. The reason he didn't talk to Israel is becuase the Israeli plan had already been coordinated with the Bush administrations response and reaction before the actual invasion. That is my recollection and opinion based on news reports at the time.

The entire Bush US policy in the Mideast is weighted to favor Israel. The 2003 neo-con excursion into Iraq is largely based on the Wolfowitz doctrine of 1992 which was later edited by Dick Cheney. If Iraq had gone as planned, the neo-cons may have went for Iran before Bush's 2004 re election campaign.

Scroll to "OIL" for the short and you will understand if you've been following for the last decade.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine

Obama, in my opinion, is affraid of the Jewish lobby in D.C. but not so affraid the he is going to bomb Irans nuclear facilities at the present time. We do know that some Israelis want the US to think it's in our own best interest to attack Iran's nuclear facilities, Obama appearantly is not yet convinced.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
hmp49
I....have a mole?
01:47 AM on 08/29/2010
The entire world gave Israel a fair amount of slack in 2006.

It was clear who initiated the hostilities.
05:16 PM on 08/26/2010
build it, and they will come :-)
03:47 PM on 08/26/2010
Wow, good job giving title A to an article about B...
09:32 AM on 08/26/2010
...."stark violation of human rights by the Palestinian Authority," Barghouti said.

No one, but no one can match a Palestinian politician in the use of hyperbole.
09:49 AM on 08/26/2010
Don't get out much Ocam?
05:17 PM on 08/26/2010
phute, I am glad you no longer dare to debate me. But aren't getting tired of these tedious hit-and-run snarks?
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
10:00 AM on 08/26/2010
Is this a lame attempt at modesty on your part?
05:15 PM on 08/26/2010
LOL...It is obvious you don't know the meaning of the word "hyperbole", cihangir.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
BcemXAHA
Yerushalaim shel zahav
09:16 AM on 08/26/2010
On a more positive note, those who demonstrated against the peace talks in the West Bank, were dismantled.

http://www.seattlepi.com/national/1107ap_ml_israel_palestinians.html
07:15 AM on 08/26/2010
Well there will be no peace as long as the occupier keeps building settlements and buldozing houses without regards to the occupants in the middle of the night. Have you seen the pictures of those buldozed houses and the homeowners become homeless living in tents? What are you going to do about that America? You condone these madness after all your tax dollars subsidezed these action for years and you ask why they hate us? There is your answer.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
StCuthbert
Anytime the mods are ready...
09:22 AM on 08/26/2010
There wasn't peace before any settlements or bulldozed houses.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
lbsaltzman
Permaculture and Sustainability
04:24 PM on 08/26/2010
No Israel was doing other things then.
09:28 AM on 08/26/2010
"Well there will be no peace as long as the occupier keeps building settlements"
Great slogan, but not very logical.
Israelis will be building and should continue to build in the areas of the W. Bank that will remain Israeli. But Israeli is not building new settlements and illegal settlements ( both Jewish and Arab) get taken down by Israeli security forces.
This has little to do with real negotiations. This is just a convenient talking point for those who want to continue to fight. In a long list of other talking points.

khem.. of course there would be no settlement building today, and for the last 10 years, if Arafat agreed to a Palestinain state at Camp David. But Arafat instead chosen war.
And now his political desendants have to try to clean Arafat's liter box.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
lbsaltzman
Permaculture and Sustainability
09:22 PM on 08/26/2010
There are no illegal Arab settlements. The Palestinians have a right to build in their own land. Israel stops them by refusing to issue permits. The Palestinians have no choice but to build without permission of the occupying army. Israel uses this cynical ploy to keep Palestinians from developing their own country while Israel inch by inch keeps stealing Palestniian land.
06:56 AM on 08/26/2010
There can be no peace until NUCLEAR WEAPONS/ WMD are removed.

There will be no peace and no conclusion to any peace talks until all NUCLEAR WEAPONS/ WMD are dismantled and removed from the Middle East and that the entire region, including both ISRAEL and IRAN, is declared a NUCLEAR WEAPONS FREE ZONE.

This is the imperative that the international community should be working towards as a matter of urgency.

To wait until either Israel or the US attacks Iran and then inevitably nuclear weapons of mass destruction are deployed by Israel to protect its cities from Iranian reprisals with long-range rockets, will draw the entire world into a nuclear conflict, the consequences of which will be unknown to anyone, past or present.

To avoid this Armageddon needs statesmanship and ruthless action to remove all weapons of mass destruction from states who will use them without hesitation to expand their land and influence.

In short, both Iran and Israel must be made impotent from bringing the world into global conflict.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
StCuthbert
Anytime the mods are ready...
09:23 AM on 08/26/2010
There wasn't peace before Israel had nuclear weapons.
03:51 PM on 08/26/2010
? This is a very weird assertion:

1. What is the theoretical connection between nuclear weapons and the Arb-Israeli conflict?
2. How does it concretely prevents peace?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
courtb
05:11 AM on 08/26/2010
Hm. I was all set to come on here, read about Lieberman, and be angry at him. Instead, he offered a nuanced statement (for him) in basically one paragraph of this entire story. Seriously, HP, you don't think mentioning Abbas and Fatah, the true focus of the story, would be enough of a draw?
07:48 AM on 08/26/2010
Ditto. Its kind of like Bizarro World on here when it comes to I/P conflict, the headlines vaguely have anything to do with the blog commentary, more about framing Israel as the 'bad guy'.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
StCuthbert
Anytime the mods are ready...
09:23 AM on 08/26/2010
You've got it, mackdee.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
10:24 AM on 08/26/2010
It's all just a massive antisemitic blog-feast in an attempt to provide that illusive antisemitic experience to all the suburban American kids who feel they missed out on the authentic Jewish culture.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
08:28 AM on 08/26/2010
So true. Neither the headline nor the photo had anything to do with the story. Perhaps the story is too complex for the editors to frame.
photo
Greg Mirsky
Riga dimd, Riga dimd, Kas to Rigu dimdinaj?
03:04 AM on 08/26/2010
The most interesting thing about this article is that it's title and words attributed to Minister Liberman do not reflect his position on the settlement expansion within the Israeli government. According to Arutz Sheva Liberman agrees with Dan Meridor and Ehud Barak to partially freeze construction. Makes me think of quality of reporting on HP and uber-liberals that don't care about facts but chant bumpar-sticars. Good riddance!
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
MarcEdward
likes all cats more than most people
08:19 AM on 08/26/2010
Huh? Seems to me the entire Israeli government has been for the expansion of settlements. As I recall they tried to embarrass the VP when he visited our so called "Ally". What makes you believe anybody in Bibi's government is against endless settlements?
photo
Greg Mirsky
Riga dimd, Riga dimd, Kas to Rigu dimdinaj?
12:20 PM on 08/26/2010
Because I get my info from outside HP too. And not only in English. Facts are more reliable then "it seems".
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
freshie
industrial designer changing the world
09:14 AM on 08/26/2010
We know the Palestinians are effectively through. What conqueror has ever given back what they won in a war? Do you think the Palestinians would have given back Israel had they won? This is all a show. Israel doesn't have to do anything but wait and figure out how to deal with the remaining Palestinians once they've settled the entire region, which will happen. It's just a matter of time. The talks, which include a freeze on settlements, are political propaganda crafted to make sure we keep trading with Muslim countries. The world still needs their resources.

As for Hamas and Hezbollah, they are like the indians who would rather die than be occupied. They kill by any means necessary, unfortunately, but they will also be conquered. Every last one of them and their children will be wiped out.

It's over! We liberals just don't want to accept it because of the perception of immorality by Israel. At least, in our minds.

Note, morality is relative in the current world. A good pr firm can make everyone think preemptive war is ok (oops, been there).

In a 100 years, when Israel owns all the land and controls the information of that land no one will question or denounce the tactics used to achieve those ends. It will be like it never happened.