New York Bagel Tax Has Residents Enraged

First Posted: 08/25/10 04:01 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:30 PM ET

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Back in July of this year, the New York State Senate passed a budget bill that included a "$1.60 hike of the states tax on cigarettes." The move sent prices for cigarettes in New York City up to about $11 a pack, immediately creating an economic hardship for all of the Alex Balks in the region and making it necessary to present a credit history and proof of employment if you wanted to cadge a cigarette on the street. What was the overall benefit to the state's coffers? Not a whole lot, actually! Per Gothamist:

The go-to plan for cash-strapped states--an increase in the tax on cigarettes--has some holes in it. In July, the New York State cigarette tax was increased to $4.35 a pack, which becomes $5.85 when combined with the city's own levy. However, the Post reports that revenue from cigarette sales was only $125 million last month, compared to $119 million from the same month a year before--hardly equivalent to the 58% increase in tax, and barely helpful to the $9.2 billion state budget deficit.


Convenience store owners report that cigarette sales have fallen anywhere from 25-35% since the hike, and New York State only sold 28.7 million cigarette tax stamps this July, compared to 43.1 million in July of 2009.

Of course, there's probably an unrecognized savings here to health care costs if people actually quit smoking. But if there are other alternatives...

Governor Paterson seems to have underestimated the proximity of tax-free reservations in Western New York and Long Island as well as low-tax states such as Pennsylvania and Vermont--where compared to NY, they practically give away cancer sticks for free. Cigarette revenue has increased up to 45% in those areas.

Well, hopefully, there won't be any alternate tax plans that pointlessly enrage New Yorkers. Oh, hey, what's this from today's Wall Street Journal?

State tax officials, under orders from cash-strapped Albany to ramp up their audit and compliance efforts, have begun to enforce one of the more obscure distinctions within the state's sales tax law.


In New York, the sale of whole bagels isn't subject to sales tax. But the tax does apply to "sliced or prepared bagels (with cream cheese or other toppings)," according to the state Department of Taxation and Finance. And if the bagel is eaten in the store, even if it's never been touched by a knife, it's also taxed.

Oh, my. If my recollection serves me correctly, bagels tend to be very important to New Yorkers. According to Kenneth Greene, the owner of some thirty-odd Bruegger's Bagels franchises across the state who found himself in the crosshairs of state enforcement, his customers didn't take too kindly to the news:

Mr. Greene says the extra charge, about eight cents a bagel, depending on the local rate, filled his customers with boiling rage. "They felt we were nickel-and-diming them. They thought we were charging them to slice a bagel," he said.

Here in DC, the city has imposed a five cent tax on plastic bags proffered to customers by restaurants and shops. The early numbers indicate that it wasn't a major revenue generator, but it seems to have a significant net-positive social impact: as Derek Thompson at the Atlantic pointed out, "The number of bags handed out by supermarkets and other establishments plummeted 85%, from 22 million to 3 million."

But while the bag tax helps to reduce litter and limit environmental damage, I'm at a loss to discern what societal problem is alleviated by an induced reduction of slicing bagels in half. One effect it could have of course, is that it might drive many progressive New Yorkers into the arms of Grover Norquist (where, interestingly enough, they'll find Park51 supporters and gay rights proponents awaiting their arrival).

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Back in July of this year, the New York State Senate passed a budget bill that included a "$1.60 hike of the states tax on cigarettes." The move sent prices for cigarettes in New York City up to abou...
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Timma
...paulatim crescam...
05:20 PM on 09/30/2010
When Napolean Bonaparte needed more cash to fund his plans for the world he taxed windows. Aside from being lame - in a word - the bagel tax is a sign of desperation and a symptom of lacklustre economy.
02:04 AM on 09/02/2010
I hate to break it to you all, but while this tax may seem ridiculous, you all pay it all the time already - just not on bagels. Think about going to any restaurant/fast food place - do you pay tax? Yup!

If you buy non-prepared food from a grocery store, no tax. You buy prepared food, you get taxed. NOTHING new. The only thing new about this is that bagel shops have been getting away with not charging this tax for ages. Why? Possibly because "way back when" they used to sell primarily "unprepared" bagels, as opposed to the more recent situation, where they are now sit down establishments with a massive eat-in menu.
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Tlanice
11:43 AM on 08/30/2010
REALLY?! I thought the Mayor and Stewart were joking and then...I googled. This is crazy. Granted, it's just eight cents but when taxes rise so will that. Just like it did with cigarettes. The already overpriced bagels are going to keep climbing. Eventually they will tax you for the plastic knife they give you to cut your own bagel.
07:28 PM on 08/26/2010
We must save the needy. Government assistance programs including food stamps should be provided for the bagel deprived! We should have charities formed to import and distribute bagels free of charge to all New Yorkers. I wonder if a Deli could just sell lox or cream cheese at a slightly higher cost and then throw in a free bagel?
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Carpetbagger 68
I see my micro bio as half-full.
11:04 AM on 08/26/2010
It's a silly article. What this represents is a meals tax. Plain and simple. It's the same explaination as to why you get taxed on a rotiserie chicken from the grocery store's deli counter but not the perdue fryer in the meat case.
10:59 AM on 08/26/2010
Let me tell you how it will be;
There's one for you, nineteen for me.
'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

Should five per cent appear too small,
Be thankful I don't take it all.
'Cause I’m the taxman,
Yeah, I’m the taxman.

(if you drive a car, car;) - I’ll tax the street;
(if you try to sit, sit;) - I’ll tax your seat;
(if you get too cold, cold;) - I’ll tax the heat;
(if you take a walk, walk;) - I'll tax your feet.

Taxman!
10:09 AM on 08/26/2010
But give the top 2%, A TRILLION DOLLAR tax break is OK??
What is $10.00 for a pack of smokes to a millionaire!!
07:25 PM on 08/26/2010
The wealthier and more educated a person is the less likely they are to smoke; it has been proven and you can google it. A tax on a pack is just a poor tax not unlike the lottery. In answer to your question, $10 a pack is nothing to the vast majority of millionaires because they probably don't smoke.
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09:56 AM on 08/26/2010
I thought bagels had holes in them.
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Carpetbagger 68
I see my micro bio as half-full.
03:10 PM on 08/26/2010
Good catch. That may be a bialy, not a bagel. No mention as to whether or not there's a bialy tax.
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NYC07
Ceci n'est pas un micro-bio
09:56 AM on 08/26/2010
Legalize and tax Marijuana. It will make the prisons smaller and brings in revenue.
Legalize regulate and tax prostitution the gov’t shouldn’t be in the morals regulation dept.
Stop the "Sting" operations of Gay men in porn shops and you could cut down the police waste.
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kevingiampa
That's no cause for rejoicing, is it?
09:53 AM on 08/26/2010
kids who don't want to eat their vegetables. pay your freakin' taxes.
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KriTiKiT
Says"play nice"
09:52 AM on 08/26/2010
they should have a 3.00 tax for every wall street trade that is FAIR!
09:49 AM on 08/26/2010
The reservation is going to close all roads leading into their land.
it will be one big mess, plus charge $2.00 per car on the throughway's.
And they are already lining up to sue NYS!!
This will cost NYS billions of dollars!
The fun will start Sept. first, when they start taxing the reservation!
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mdlawyer2
09:47 AM on 08/26/2010
Why is the bagel tax story accompanied by a picture of an English Muffin? Bagels have holes in the center. Is this some sort of uber political correctness?
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Manhattanite
09:29 AM on 08/26/2010
Time for a Bagel Party!
07:58 AM on 08/26/2010
Not news, prepared food is taxed in a lot of states.
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Rogo99
Has the world changed, or have I changed?
08:00 AM on 08/26/2010
PA has rules like that also.
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ghs246
09:33 AM on 08/26/2010
that doesnt mk it right