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Germany To Pass Facebook Privacy Law BANNING Employers' Facebook Checks

VERENA SCHMITT-ROSCHMANN   08/25/10 03:14 PM ET   AP

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BERLIN — Ever thought twice about posting a party picture on Facebook, fearing it could someday hurt your chance at a dream job?

A draft German law is supposed to solve the problem by making it illegal for prospective employers to spy on applicants' private postings.

The draft law on employee data security presented by Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere on Wednesday is the government's latest attempt to address privacy concerns about online services including social networks and Google "Street View".

It is also a reaction to corporations checking on employee e-mails and filming sales clerks during coffee breaks – which has triggered public outrage in Germany.

De Maiziere acknowledged that some of the new regulations – which have yet to be discussed and passed by parliament – might be complicated to enact.

For example, employers will still be allowed to run a search on the Web on their applicants, de Maiziere said. Anything out in public is fair game, as are postings on networks specifically created for business contacts, such as LinkedIn.

In contrast, it will be illegal to become a Facebook friend with an applicant in order to check out private details, he said, adding that some people seem to be indiscriminate about whom they accept as a friend.

"If an employer turns down an application with another reasoning it might be difficult to prove" that the negative answer was based on the Facebook postings, de Maiziere said.

A rejected job applicant who proves he or she was turned down based on violation of the new law could take the company to court and claim damages, he said.

The new law will also prevent clandestine video surveillance in the workplace, particularly in private spaces like lavatories or locker rooms, de Maiziere said. An employer ignoring the new rule could be charged fines of up to euro300,000 (about $379,000).

However, cameras will be allowed in public spaces like supermarkets and some factories or warehouses, if employees know about them, he said.

"Overall, the new rules passed by the cabinet keep a good balance between employees' interests on the hand and companies' interests on the other," de Maiziere said.

The BDA employers' federation called the draft is too imprecise in some points, adding that it thinks some of de Maiziere's proposals would hinder the fight against corruption and crime.

The retailers' association HDE said some of the regulations go much too far, and outlawing clandestine video surveillance would be wrong.

"Here we hope for changes in the government draft," HDE said in a press release.

Germany's data protection watchdog, Peter Schaar, applauded the government's effort, calling it long overdue.

It is "a substantial improvement on the status quo in dealing with employee's data," he said.

De Maiziere said he does not know yet when the law will go into effect.

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spartanladkenny
is amazing at predicting the future on HP
01:31 PM on 09/27/2010
Meanwhile, we want more surveillance.

USA! USA! USA!!
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Kenyatta J Yamel
01:47 PM on 08/28/2010
I'm all for it. Some degree of privacy is expected.
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11:54 AM on 08/28/2010
If people willfully post information about themselves on facebook or else where on line they must know the information is no longer private. The law must be a law to protect themselves from themselves?
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aligatorhardt
Cut on the bias
09:40 AM on 08/28/2010
This sounds like a good law to protect the rights of all but still allow for security.
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JasonMcl
Hey a countdown clock. MannNnn that is trouble...
07:48 AM on 08/27/2010
This is a very good step in the right direction. Germany is one of those rare nations where the government looks out for more than just its corporate citizens.

"The new law will also prevent clandestine video surveillance in the workplace, particularly in private spaces like lavatories or locker rooms" - This should be a universal law. That's almost as bad as using laptops to spy on kids.
07:13 AM on 08/27/2010
That's fixing the wrong problem. The first issue to sort os that users regain control over their own information and their own privacy. Germany, and Europa in general have made some good moves in that direction (a barometer is just how much trouble Google gets into in a country), but will that persist?
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Madbunny
Prison Guard - FireFighter - now a School Teacher
01:07 AM on 08/27/2010
FINALLY.

I am so sick of seeing articles about people who lost their jobs because an employer didn't like something they said on a private page. This isn't about privacy so much as it is about boundaries. Corporations are being allowed to intrude and control our lives in far too many ways. The very fact that you can be fired for something you type on your computer at 1:30 am should be frightening to people.

Once I leave my workplace, my time is my own. I go where I want, I say what I want. Even if I break a law and go to jail, so long as it has no impact on that company it isn't any of their concern.
04:09 PM on 08/28/2010
I agree with the first paragraph, and most of the second. What I post on facebook should have absolutely no bearing over my job security. Even if someone wants to gripe about their boss on facebook, or their job, if it's on their own time then it shouldn't be held against them in the work place. That said, I'd never befriend a boss or co-worker on facebook. Too risky.
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tekjensen
04:14 PM on 08/26/2010
I just don't post anything personal and if I need to tell a facebook friend anything personal I just send them a message.
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11:49 AM on 08/28/2010
There you go. No need for a law if one followes your approach.
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LightShadow62
The answers are not found in the extremes
03:57 PM on 08/26/2010
Sorry but if you put it on Facebook it is no longer private.
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JasonMcl
Hey a countdown clock. MannNnn that is trouble...
07:54 AM on 08/27/2010
A lot of kids who use facebook tend to think of it as their own little section of the world that only their friends can see. Many teenagers do not realize that they have to set dozens of complicated privacy switches and one day every single thing they say will become official public record viewable by anyone.

That is why laws like this are necessary. An employee should be hired based solely on their resume, references and how they present themselves in the interview, not how they were when they were younger, dumber and not yet in tune to the harsh realities of the world.
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LightShadow62
The answers are not found in the extremes
11:04 AM on 08/27/2010
"That is why laws like this are necessary."
No. That is why education is necessary.

Most resumes are full of half truths and whole lies design to paint a rosy picture of the applicant. Basing hiring solely on a resume is, at a minimum, risky.
Plus if an employee isn't smart enough to either not post stupid stuff or at least clear their past indiscretions from their pages then they are probably not going to be smart enough to keep the companies best interests in mind.
12:36 AM on 08/26/2010
I wish we had privacy laws like this in the U.S.
Until then, I'll keep using an alias in my facebook.
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11:52 AM on 08/28/2010
I have used the same alias for so long I sometimes get snail mail addressed to that non person. I have not figured out how they traced down the address. Maybe someone knows.
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khg1
04:49 PM on 08/25/2010
This should be a standard worldwide. If it doesn't involve/mention the company, and it isn't illegal then it has a little bearing on a persons employ-ability. Like running credit checks on prospective employees - should be illegal, it is certainly invasive and immoral IMHO.

It does not however excuse the blatant stupidity of some people and the things (comments, tweets, pictures) that they post.
01:01 PM on 08/25/2010
this is horrible and i hope it never comes to this in the united states. government has no business telling a business how to handle it's hiring practices. and facebook has all of the privacy functions you need built into it. personally, i would not like to work for a company that asked to see my facebook page, and i would tell them that.
02:11 PM on 08/25/2010
But would you say no to them if you needed the job?
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Madbunny
Prison Guard - FireFighter - now a School Teacher
01:03 AM on 08/27/2010
I would. It isn't their business what I do when I leave their grounds, and they stop paying me money.
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KrautMan
Carpe jugulum
04:27 PM on 08/25/2010
Government has every reason to protect its citizens' right to privacy. Get your priorities right.
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JohnFromCensornati
Free your mind and your ass will follow.
05:22 PM on 08/25/2010
You're talking to a wRong Paulian. His priorities are likely to already be about as far right as they can be.
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JaxReader
Hear reason, or she'll make you feel her.
12:28 PM on 08/25/2010
Germany is a wonderful example of a government that is actually protecting the privacy of its citizens. Bravo Germany!
12:18 PM on 08/25/2010
IRONIC that in 70-80 yrs since facism claimed that country, that they've become more democratic and have a far better sense of liberty and justice, then the USA.

We've moved backwards while they've progressed.
02:12 PM on 08/25/2010
I don't think I'd call it so much ironic as that they learned from WWII and the Third Reich, and they've instituted very strict privacy laws at least in part as a reaction to fascism.
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JasonMcl
Hey a countdown clock. MannNnn that is trouble...
08:58 AM on 08/27/2010
It is because they were so wrought with Fascism and right-wing psychotic insanity that their descendants have learned a better way. Those descendants are now the ones who hold power and make decisions there and those decisions have made the country a much better place overall.
11:35 AM on 08/25/2010
I wish companies here would do something similar. Only in some instances should an applicant's personal life be used in determining if they should be considered or rejected for a job.
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TrotskyMemo
12:07 PM on 08/25/2010
I don't think believe companies in America REQUIRE facebook access to qualify for employment. The article just states that people accept friend requests on Facebook indiscriminately. With people still doing this, there's no real way to enforce this law, since there is no way to prove that your facebook info caused you to not get a job. Anything you put online is public information, and people shouldn't have to tip-toe around it.
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khg1
04:51 PM on 08/25/2010
No not FB, but what about credit checks? Unless you are working with cash, or in banking it is irrelevant.
07:31 PM on 08/26/2010
Maybe they're afraid of the consequences of declining an employer's/potential employer's friend request.
12:19 PM on 08/25/2010
Makes you wonder why a story like this, that people on this site would care about, is buried so deeply?
03:23 PM on 08/25/2010
They got around to reading Drudge where they notice it and woke up. This site is really declining.