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Thilo Sarrazin, German Banker, Under Fire For 'Racist' Jewish Remark

KIRSTEN GRIESHABER   08/29/10 01:35 PM ET   AP

Thilo Sarrazin

BERLIN — Top German officials and immigrant leaders on Sunday condemned remarks by a board member of Germany's federal bank as racist and anti-Semitic. Chancellor Angela Merkel said the Bundesbank should discuss dismissing the banker.

Thilo Sarrazin of the Bundesbank came under fire for telling the weekly newspaper Welt am Sonntag that "all Jews share the same gene." He also said Muslim immigrants across Europe were not willing or capable of integrating into western societies.

Last year, Sarrazin, who previously served as finance minister for Berlin, told a magazine that "I do not need to accept anyone who lives on handouts from a state that it rejects, is not adequately concerned about the education of their children and constantly produces new, little headscarf-clad girls."

He later apologized for those remarks.

However, Sarrazin, 65, would know full well that his country has had little tolerance for anti-Semitic remarks since the Holocaust, and that many of Germany's immigrants have complained about racist remarks and xenophobic behavior.

On Sunday, several German lawmakers demanded that Sarrazin step down from his post as board member at the Bundesbank and resign his party membership of the left-leaning Social Democrats – demands that Sarrazin rejected.

Merkel told German public Television ARD that "the choice of words, the discrimination of entire groups, the ostracism and the contempt is unacceptable and does not lead to a solution."

Asked whether she wanted Sarrazin to step down, Merkel said while the Bundesbank was independent in making such decisions, she was convinced it would discuss his replacement.

"I'm very certain that they will also talk about this at the Bundesbank. We know that they talk not only about financial problems, but that the Bundesbank is also representing our entire country, domestically and internationally as well," Merkel said.

She also said that while Sarrazin's comments on integration hindered a sober debate about the issue, it was important that "whoever lives here must be willing to integrate into society, learn the language and participate in school – and there we still have a lot of work to do."

German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle said in an interview with weekly Bild am Sonntag that "remarks that feed racism or even anti-Semitism have no place in our political discourse."

Defense Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg said Sarrazin had "overstepped the borders of provocation."

Leaders of Germany's Jewish and Muslim communities also condemned the banker's remarks.

Stephan Kramer of the Central Council of Jews in Germany told German news agency DAPD: "Whoever tries to identify Jews by their genetic makeup succumbs to racism."

A leading member of the Turkish community in Germany, Kenan Kolat, urged Merkel to expel Sarrazin from his Bundesbank post.

In his Welt interview on Sunday, Sarrazin said that "Muslim immigrants don't integrate as well as other immigrant groups across Europe. The reasons for this are apparently not based on their ethnicity, but are rooted in the culture of Islam."

While most lawmakers have condemned his accusations as racist, some newspapers and TV stations have said an open debate about the country's integration of Muslim immigrants is greatly needed.

Maria Boehmer, the German government official responsible for immigrant affairs, said in a statement Sunday that while it was undisputed that mistakes had been made in the integration of immigrants for decades, that had also been lots of improvement, which Sarrazin always failed to mention.

"Sarrazin paints a distorted picture of integration in Germany, which will not withstand any kind of scientific research," Boehmer said, adding that among other things, the education level of young immigrants had improved significantly during recent years. "We need to support this potential, not discriminate against them."

A government survey in 2009 found that the Muslim population in Germany likely is between 3.8 million and 4.3 million – meaning Muslims make up between 4.6 and 5.2 percent of the population. About 63 percent of those report Turkish heritage.

The overall number of Germans with immigrant roots – including Muslim and non-Muslim immigrants – reached more than 16 million, or nearly 20 percent of the country's 82 million inhabitants in 2009.

Sarrazin has a new book out on the topic that he will introduce next week in Berlin. In some of the excerpts that have already been published by German media, he writes that immigrants have profited much more from Germany's welfare system than they have contributed to it, and claims that immigrants are making German society "dumber" because they are less educated but have more children than ethnic Germans.

The head of the Social Democrats, Sigmar Gabriel, called Sarrazin's comments "linguistically violent" and said last week "if you were to ask me why he still wants to be a member of our party – I don't know either."

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03:28 PM on 10/18/2010
can someone tell me who and why was create word ''anti-semit''???..is has another word look like this for sample anti-germany or anti- chinese???...
03:08 PM on 09/22/2010
Funny how this guy doesn't get nearly the backlash that Terry Jones got, yet his influence in Germany is much more far-reaching that Mr. Jones.

More on this here: themapplemag.com
06:43 PM on 09/05/2010
I do not get why Germany is abash for Sarrazin's noting a "Jewish Gene". Are genes not discussed in public? Do we not all have genes that came from our parents? Aren't Jews a long line of people who mostly shared them with other Jews for generations? Jews have been around before Jesus passsing their genes on to their kids. What is the deal? As for Muslims, If I were Mr. Sarrazin I would be careful how I handled their genes. Cartoonists have regretted confronting Muslims' pasts. As for Ms. Merkel, she is not going to stir up the Muslim Brotherhood. They have lived peacefully with Ms. Merkel. Have you heard of an Islami attack in Germany as in other European countries? Peace be with you.
09:15 PM on 09/05/2010
Yes. Those plans were uncovered and thwarted.
06:15 AM on 09/05/2010
Guys, the race and ethnic gene issue is the antithesis to sarrazin's thoughts.
Its a smoke screen by the PC and immigration industry/lobby/parties/etc.
Please dont get fooled here. I am sorry to say, but everyone who jumps on that wagon of criticism is as unfortunate as a tea-party guy having been convinced that Obama does not have a birth certificate.
11:00 AM on 09/03/2010
The same utilitarian argument made Thilo Sarrazin have been used against other minorities in other countries, including the United States. Fortunately, one’s worth as a human being goes beyond his usefulness in a commercial society.

Nonetheless, leaders of minorities around the world have a responsibility to further the education of their members. Moreover, each country has a responsibility to remove ALL roadblocks to minority education. Indeed, even with all the doors open, learning is long and tedious, and with no shortcuts for anyone.

Families that have invested in the education of their children know this, and also know that the desire must be planted early on in the child. Since many parents themselves do not see the significance of learning, this important ingredient of education is often missing. Community and church leaders can help in this regard.

In the end, it is all worth it as an informed human being is good for all of us, not just for those that invested in his education. Regarding his race or national origin, it is of concern to one no.

As for Sarrazin, like all bigots, he should be ignored. Those who think that perhaps he means well for Germany, should reflect that he has offered no solutions, whatsoever, with his criticism. This is the prime indication that his intentions are not honorable. By themselves then, his comments are both inflammatory and racist.
01:46 PM on 09/02/2010
Just to separate out the emotional side of this (which is very significant for Germany) from the factual side... I am married to Jewish woman (for 35 years). We went to the doctor together a month ago and the doctor (Jewish) suggested to my wife that she get a test for a particular gene that is common in Jewish women, and that greatly increases ones chance of getting breast cancer. Now obviously not all Jewish people carry this particular gene, because Jews have intermarried for thousands of years with non-Jews, but it is certainly true that groups of people do share certain genetic peculiarities. What is highly unlikely is that by this point in human evolution, that these genetic anomalies would manifest themselves in a way that causes behavior differences that are scientifically significant compared to the natural variations amongst people.

As to Muslims not assimilating or immigrants bringing down the educational level of Germany, it is highly likely that immigrants from the Middle East would in fact bring down the education level of a highly industrialized and wealthy country like Germany. Obviously that same thing happens with third world immigrants coming to America, but what usually happens to these immigrants 2 or 3 generations later is that they do assimilate and work hard to help their new country. In the US we have seen this for centuries with the Irish immigrants, the Italian immigrants, the Chinese, Japanese, etc.
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01:09 PM on 09/02/2010
FIRED !
12:54 PM on 09/02/2010
None of Thilo Sarrazin`s theorems withstands scrutiny in educated discourse.
02:40 PM on 09/02/2010
Oh really? I'd like to see your scrutiny.
07:22 AM on 09/03/2010
It isn`t my scrutiny.
http://www.wdr.de/tv/hartaberfair/multimedia/index.php5
In this TV panel discussion much of the statistical data used by Sarrazin as well as the projections he makes on the basis of these data were shown to be bogus. What`s more, Sarrazin eventually admitted to having no clue about genetics, though the bulk of the case he is making is based on the supposed collapse of the "German gene pool" .
10:51 AM on 09/01/2010
Go Chancellor!
03:20 PM on 08/31/2010
There are far more genetic differences within groups than between groups. What does he mean when he says that Jews share the same gene ? We have tens of thousands of genes so it is irrelevant whether most Jews have one particular gene ( not that they do anyway).
There has obviously been intermingling of DNA because Jews from Iran look Iranian , Jews from Denmark look Danish , Jews from Russia look Russian etc
02:41 PM on 09/02/2010
Why don't you read the article and find out what he was talking about.
07:24 AM on 09/03/2010
Which article is this?
09:47 AM on 08/31/2010
2nd, 3 generation German children of original Gastarbeiter who refuse and/or incapable of learning German cannot complain about being a second class citizens.
They,their families and their mullahs chose to reject European culture, (but not Euro welfare, of course.)
Solution-- cut social care, (except medical), hunger is a great motivator for integration and language learning.
08:40 PM on 08/31/2010
So you advocate starving foreigners in your country?

Your attitude speaks volumes.
Stereotype much?
The failure of the post-war generation was to think that their "guest workers" would simply leave once they were no longer needed.

Germany's Homegrown Intolerance
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,529322,00.html

Poll: Most Turks in Germany Feel Unwelcome
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,3189718,00.html

Germany is becoming Islamophobic
http://www.islamophobia-watch.com/display/ShowJournal?moduleId=103277&categoryId=7576

German Immigrants Have Had Enough
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,527835,00.html

Germany copes with integrating Turkish minority / Immigration reform on agenda after decades of separate, unequal treatment
http://articles.sfgate.com/2005-11-13/news/17400106_1_turks-berlin-foreigners

Turks in Germany: Integration and Exclusion
http://www.turkishweekly.net/columnist/3262/turks-in-germany-integration-and-exclusion.html
02:43 PM on 09/02/2010
Ummm when you are a 2nd or 3rd Generation person born into a country and your family hasn't insisted on you learning the language of the land, even takes pride in it, then there is a serious problem.

This is true whether you're in Japan, Mexico, Korea, Yemen whatever.
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05:15 AM on 09/01/2010
OMG
Your post is a travesty against humanity.
Your recommend starving the Turkish right out of them in Germany?
You sound as if you where over 90 years old and haven’t learned a thing since Germany has record of staving millions to death.

Are you obtuse?
02:44 PM on 09/02/2010
No I think he means deporting them. Many of these folks have not attained full German citizenship, so deporting them would not be out of the question. In fact, give them a cash incentive to leave.
02:50 AM on 09/03/2010
Your post shows that eating at Denny's (not Dennis BTW) can do serious damage to a person. Greasiest place on the planet. Put on friendliness in order to turn tables fast. (as in most American restaurants) I start to believe you might not even be from the US, all the signs say Denny's, why would you spell it Dennis ?
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09:45 AM on 08/31/2010
The thing is, Immigrants to the US comes from all over the world.. so for the most part, Muslims are a very small part of our immigrants here. The overwhelming part of the immigrants to the US have contributed positively and hence we look favorably towards immigrants.

Now, imagine our immigrants like EU / Germany come mostly from Islamic countries like Pakistan and Sudan etc... then we would not look kindly to immigrants either.
10:25 AM on 08/31/2010
Just remember all the recorded hate crimes after 9/11 in the USA, pathetic. Remember the hate against blacks in the sixties, not long ago. America claims to be a melting pot, big deal. Why are so many blacks in jail. Is it in their genes ? I say it is class justice in the land of the fee and the home of the slave.
11:25 AM on 08/31/2010
"Why are so many blacks in jail?"
For the same reason there are so many Turks in jail in Germany. The poorer classes always commit majority of crimes. In any countries, any historical period.

And It is a fallacy trying to project some kind of uniquely national context on this, American or European.
Equally, not all immigrants are the same.
Those who come from countries with traditions of learning and ethos of hard work do extremely well in Europe (and U.S.) like Chinese, Vietnamese, Hindi.
Those come from traditions of self-victimization and religious preoccupations are overall highly unsuccessful-- European Muslim immigrant populations and their descendants.
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05:34 AM on 09/01/2010
That’s a lie,
There where no record hate crimes against Muslims or anyone else after 9/11.
You’re making this up.
Check the record.
03:42 AM on 08/31/2010
"whoever lives here must be willing to integrate into society, learn the language and participate in school – and there we still have a lot of work to do."

This is the basic requirement that EU demands and if it is not met, there will be only an adverse reaction. The banker also said immigrants from India, China, Vietnam do not pose any problems. That is true. Why this hullaballoo.
04:22 AM on 08/31/2010
That is a direct result of how the Turkish (and not just Turkish) people have been treated in Germany.
Though the laws guarantee equality it is not implement by the culture and the people in every day life
Creating 2nd class citizen underclass.

You cant just say:
Here you have some bread and work but socially stay as far away as possible from me and my family.
Be happy you have nothing to complain about so be quite.
And let me know when you’re done integrating …then we’ll see.

You learn a language from the natives, but if the majority ( not all) of the natives don’t want it talk to you ( because you’re just too foreign), make fun of your culture, put you down, you are more likely to be isolated and stay amongst your own people avoiding the negativity.
Any person is far more likely to embrace a culture that is welcoming and open to them.

The hullaballoo. is over 20 years old and high times for an honest dialog in Germany.
06:31 AM on 08/31/2010
Yes there is an anti-discrimination law "Allgemeines Gleichbehandlungsgesetz (AGG)"
There is no advantage when exists procedural law and nobody is applying these rules in daily life. This law is a dead law
10:18 AM on 08/31/2010
What planet do you live on ? In Cologne we have folks from Turkey for almost 40 years, many of them working for the Ford Motor Company. I agree some have and had problems with integration but how about 2nd or even 3rd generation ?

You sound like Germans take advantage of poor foreigners.
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08:41 AM on 08/31/2010
The "SĂĽddeutsche Zeitung" brings it to the point with only one sentence: "..... Also the average [German] citizen may be a [supporter] of the integration [of foreigners]; but only, so long as his children do not have to share the school desk with 25 Turks and Arabs...."
11:08 PM on 08/30/2010
You wanna see a real riot?
Kurt Westergaard is planning to publish a book which will include his cartoons lampooning islamic radicals and their fanatical devotion to IED turbans.
10:12 PM on 08/30/2010
Sarrazin said that "Muslim immigrants don't integrate as well as other immigrant groups across Europe. The reasons for this are apparently not based on their ethnicity, but are rooted in the culture of Islam."

Genau.
03:52 AM on 08/31/2010
Nicht genau.

Sarrazin also eluded to that the Tuerks in Germany lower the intelligence gene pool.
That means he’s taking out of both side of his mouth.
Accusing them of not integrating but somehow still polluting the German gene pool and culture.
How does that work?
09:38 AM on 08/31/2010
1. Post a quote and/or a link to what you allege Sarazin said,, and
then we can dsicuss it.

2. Sarrazin is definitely talks beyond his understanding of issues,
but he is reacting. rebelling to  the Stalinist 
oppressive multi-cultural  dogma prevalent in European
political narrative.
02:59 PM on 09/02/2010
How can they pollute the German gene pool if they don't integrate?