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Daniel Loeb, Hedge Fund Manager, Blasts Obama Administration's 'Redistribution Of Wealth'

First Posted: 08/31/10 01:43 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:30 PM ET

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A hedge fund manager's latest letter to investors has caused something of a stir among financial pundits, drawing comments from Paul Krugman, Andrew Ross Sorkin and others.

The letter, which was penned by Third Point chief Daniel Loeb and first unearthed by Bess Levin at Dealbreaker, contains a host of grandiose, introductory quotes from the likes of Ronald Reagan, Thomas Jefferson and President Obama.

Loeb's main point of contention, however, seems to be with the president. Loeb, who Sorkin notes is a Democrat and was one of Obama's biggest supporters during the 2008 election, contends that the Obama administration "is operating from a playbook quite different from the one we are used to as American business people; a thought that chills all participants in these free markets."

Here's more from Loeb:

As every student of American history knows, this country's core founding principles included non-punitive taxation, Constitutionally-guaranteed protections against persecution of the minority, and an inexorable right of self-determination. Washington has taken actions over the past months like the Goldman suit that seem designed to fracture the populace by pulling capital and power from the hands of some and putting it in the hands of others. For example, a well-intentioned government program gone awry is the new CARD Act that restricts banks from repricing interest rates on borrowers who fail to meet their revolving credit obligations. The effect of this legal prohibition has been to force the banks to raise the interest rate paid by all borrowers, to compensate for losses they are now being forced to take on delinquent borrowers. The effect is a redistribution of wealth from people who pay their debts on time to those who do not.

Sorkin seized on Loeb's comments in his latest column this morning, offering the letter as evidence of Obama's increasingly strained relationship with Wall Street and its big-pocketed donors. (Which prompted Krugman to note that the financiers were acting like "spoiled kids" and that the the most stringent parts of the financial reform bill were killed.)

Loeb, however, didn't entirely let Wall Street off the hook for the financial collapse:

Many people see the collapse of the sub-prime markets, along with the failure and subsequent rescue of many banks, as failures of capitalism rather than a result of a vile stew of inept management, unaccountable boards of directors, and overmatched regulators not just asleep, but comatose, at the proverbial switch. When we hear the chorus of former executives and regulators exclaim that the crisis was "impossible to see coming", while at the same time walking away with millions or going on to greater levels of responsibility in government, it is both puzzling and demoralizing. It is easy to see why so many people have concluded that the entire system is rigged.

At The Baseline Scenario, James Kwak was quick to point out holes in Loeb's implication that capitalism merely needs better participants, not tougher regulation. Here's Kwak:

"...putting the blame on certain categories of people does not somehow absolve 'capitalism.' Our capitalist system-which until recently we considered the best, most pure version in the world-allowed incompetent people to become executives (and to run hedge funds), allowed incompetent people to become directors and to avoid any responsibility for their actions, and allowed companies to swamp regulators with battalions of high-priced lawyers and lobbyists.


This is a basic category error. Capitalism is an economic system; managers, directors, and regulators are people. They are not mutually exclusive. If you want to say that capitalism necessarily means universally good managers, responsible directors, and effective regulators, then that's an argument you have to make (and good luck making it)."

Read the full letter at Dealbreaker.

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A hedge fund manager's latest letter to investors has caused something of a stir among financial pundits, drawing comments from Paul Krugman, Andrew Ross Sorkin and others. The letter, which was p...
A hedge fund manager's latest letter to investors has caused something of a stir among financial pundits, drawing comments from Paul Krugman, Andrew Ross Sorkin and others. The letter, which was p...
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Omnix
Buddhist with an attitude...
06:33 PM on 09/02/2010
What an infantile and fallacious argument Loeb is making. First he starts out with some out of context quotes from our founding fathers and Ronnie Ray-gun; which is either an appeal to authority/fear or reductio ad patriota... Then he threw out a few quotes from Obama from before his presidency, followed by an insult on America from a Chinese general (who reputedly supports democracy).

According to Loeb, the banks "are forced to" increase the interest rates they charge their "good" customers, because they are not allowed to increase interest (to a usurious level) on those who are suffering from the financial melt-down created by the financial industry. This is a disingenuous, straw-man fallacy. It's like an abusive husband saying it's the wife's fault he beat her, because he can't get away with beating the kids any more.

Just this week many of the banks posted record profits (again),
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/31/bank-profits-soar-lending_n_700574.html
and are poised to give out record bonuses (again);
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/31/hurryup-bonuses_n_699881.html
but somehow "the government" isn't being fare? And the President is single-handedly to blame for this (despite the fact that any statutory changes are supported by a majority in both houses)?
10:51 AM on 09/02/2010
I hear McDonald's is catching on to Obamanomics so much so that they've come up with a new Obama Value meal........Order anything you like and the guy in line behind you has to pay for it......
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tacevad
American SS Card Carrying Socialist
08:18 AM on 09/02/2010
the redistribution of Americas wealth began 30 + years ago and it was that upward redistribution that is bringing the country down.
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stunsitfel
Liberale sind verlorene Schafe
08:13 AM on 09/02/2010
David Limbaugh has a massive new bestseller. Limbaugh’s just-released book, Crimes Against Liberty: An Indictment of President Barack Obama (published by HE sister company, Regnery), will debut at #1 on the New York Times bestseller list. According to the nation-wide reporting service BookScan, which tracks retail sales at a majority of the country’s retail outlets, Limbaugh sold more than 28,000 copies in the week that ended August 29 – more than any other non-fiction book in the country.
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TheCarCzarsPage
12:17 AM on 09/02/2010
Greed is good!
11:58 PM on 09/01/2010
We have to end this! As Progressives we must make a stand. Any Politician whether Dem, Rep or Independent who voted for TARP DOES NOT GET A VOTE in November.

And Politician who took a single Dollar of Wall St/.Bank Lobbyist money get no votes in November.

We as Progressive must show the country, we will not comprimise!!! Our vote can not be bought.

And don't tell me "Oh but the Republicans will win". From what I can see the Chris Dodd, Obama/Giethner Demos have sold us out already - they have not earned our vote.

If we hold true to our values other drift less American will be attracted to what we say.
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Broderick Crawford
05:24 PM on 09/01/2010
DOW up nicely, 254.75 points, on TEA Party win in Alaska...
06:25 PM on 09/01/2010
The rally started in Asia yesterday continued to Europe and then to New York. Changing one corporate gopher for another is co-incidental. Get a clue.
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Broderick Crawford
12:26 PM on 09/02/2010
LOL
03:51 PM on 09/01/2010
Daniel Loeb makes me proud to be a Marxist.
03:33 PM on 09/01/2010
This from a guy who grew up rich in California and has a huge beach-front Hamptons mansion (where he not only hangs out with socialites but also low-wattage celebrities). Who bought the most expensive single-unit apartment ever in Manhattan ($47 million or so).

Who adds exactly zero to the real economy.

No, he merely gets money from the very wealthy and makes them even more wealthy by leveraging their capital at the rigged casino that brought America to its financial knees while creating a new class of uber-wealthy to rival if not exceed the Robber Baron era--when, as now, there was no middle class to speak of, just a tiny caste of obscenely rich lording over a large underclass.

What a stain, this corny blowhard.

The irony is that Obama deserves to be turned on... for CAVING to Wall Street, for bowing to Goldman Sachs--who Loeb defends like some vulnerable orphan while they literally staff the Federal Reserve and bailed themselves out of the failure that the free market dealt them, as any student of reality/recent history knows.

This is so sickening yet, in a way, delightfully revelatory. Loeb is showing himself for what he is: an Obama supporter whose enthusiasm for "change" was only the kind that goes into his pocket.
11:26 AM on 09/01/2010
Daniel Loeb: "Constitutionally-guaranteed protections against persecution of the minority"

The only persecutions I can find against Loeb's minority (which is approximately 2 percent of the US population) is forcing them to hold down 33 percent of the Supreme Court Seats, 95 percent of the Presidents economic council, and close to 100 percent of the talking head/opinion-maker/pundit jobs in our mainstream media.

We should NOT tolerate such persecution of this down-trodden minority and should start right now insisting that Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus and yes even atheists begin to shoulder some of the "white man's burden."
06:17 PM on 09/01/2010
"Loeb's minority (which is approximately 2 percent of the US population)"

Closer to 0.001%.
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maxwelldog
even if i don't go anywhere, I'll still be late.
09:40 AM on 09/01/2010
Well, the positions are askew, and the words slightly different, but close.
"Non-punitive taxation"...that would be similar to non-punitive interest rates, as well as additional punitive charges for late payments or using banks at all. Cut it out..
"Constitutionally-guaranteed protections against persecution of the minority" ...true enough, although this government is still crossing that bridge. It seems some still hold PREJUDICE as a right, and overwhelm those who are "the minority", and as I have heard for so long, "wealth means more say in the matter" or, a majority of one.
"an inexorable right of self-determination." ...this one I call out as completely false.
Laws have been made in this country that absolutely go against the grain of "self determination", and two that come to mind right now are the seatbelt laws and marijuana laws..
For example, a well-intentioned government program gone awry is the new CARD Act that restricts banks from repricing interest rates on borrowers who fail to meet their revolving credit obligations.
Loeb is complaining that loan sharks no longer get free reign.
The effect of this legal prohibition has been to force the banks to raise the interest rate paid by all borrowers, to compensate for losses they are now being forced to take on delinquent borrowers. (DON'T TAKE ON BAD DEBT!) .
"Legitimate" loan sharks have been crying about this day...
Time to clean house, gentlemen. and also, STOP BUYING OUR GOVERNMENT!
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seanny53
Things fall apart, the center cannot hold
09:06 AM on 09/01/2010
Without regular redistribution of wealth, we'll all end up living in a de facto plutocracy, ruled by a permanent class of the very wealthy. Oops, too late.
12:30 PM on 09/01/2010
President obama himself is a shining example of how utterly false and ridiculous your statement is on the subject. tell me, what permanent class of wealth was he born into? how about President Clinton, who was raised lower-middle class in one of the poorest states in the union, Arkansas?

this idea that the poor or middle class no longer have a chance at happiness or success in this country is garbage. nothing more than a liberal victimhood fairy tale. and frankly, lazy thinkers like you are part of the problem... not part of the solution.
12:37 PM on 09/01/2010
Obama and Clinton?

Oh, well, even Roman emperors had their lap dogs.
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MrUniteUs
12:13 AM on 09/01/2010
The new credit card law will allow companies to raise interest rates on new purchases,
not old balances. Sounds fair to me.

I'd also like to see the interest tax deduction for credit card and other consumer loans
reinstated. Reagan got rid of those tax deductions and gave huge tax cuts to the rich.
The national debt doubled during the Reagan years. How's that for redistribution of wealth


Complaining about Redistribution of wealth after a $700 billion dollar Tarp and 125 billion dollar AIG bailout from taxpayers LOL. Billions of tax dollars were given to overseas investors.
International redistibution of wealth.

Guess what, hedgefund managers make a living redistributing wealth.

How about the hundreds of thousands in farm subsides paid to socialist Michelle Bachman
from tax payers. Or the billions given to Halliburton in no bid contracts during the Bush/Cheney. How's that for redistribution of wealth.
Now here is the good news Loeb.If the working classes have more money to spend, demand will increases and profits will go up. So don't cry for credit card fee gougers. They'll be fine and so will you.
11:33 PM on 08/31/2010
These greedy sob's are beyond belief. That's why the MSM, FOX, Beck, etc., are going after this president with a vengence. Any conservative Republican who is not a millionaire or billionaire, WHY ARE YOU VOTING REPUBLICAN? They do not care about you. They want to take your 401K, Social Securiy, then leave this country broke then more to DuBai (yes a mooslim country).
12:34 PM on 09/01/2010
you have it a bit backwards. the democratic party is the one who caters to the poor, giving them handouts and a false sense of security. yet it's all a ploy to strip them of their dignity, responsibility as a citizen and give them hope to aspire to better days.

Republicans tend to reward success, as a means to inspire people to achieve it. Democrats tend to penalize success, thus teaching the lesson that it's okay NOT to achieve to be better and aspire to anything.
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Kevin Atlanta
Active Citizen 54
11:33 PM on 08/31/2010
There is no doubt in anyone's mind that the FED, the Banksters and Wall Street Gambling Parlors, aided by Dubya's criminal malfeasance, Bernanke's admitted criminal mis-management and Timmy's eager give away "at par," framed the $4.6 Trillion give-away to the fraud and embezzlers who manipulated the global collapse.
The American Citizens will happily show the 5% just what majority rule is about in a skinny minute. These vile thieves wouldn't exist without American Taxpayers but Dubya socialized the loss and privatized the profits after running dry the Chinese Credit Card (and Social Security) to pay for his wars guarding Opium Poppies for the Oligarchy and the Oil Contracts from Iraq that the French control.
America has been screwed blue and tattooed by these vile thieves. Where is America's share of the profits from these zombies that wouldn't exist. Where is America's bonus?
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08:59 AM on 09/01/2010
What about Clinton's malfeasance by repealing Glass-Steagall?
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seanny53
Things fall apart, the center cannot hold
09:09 AM on 09/01/2010
Oh, it's a bipartisan plutocracy, no doubt of that.