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Israelis, Palestinians Agree To Second Round Of Talks

MATTHEW LEE and ROBERT BURNS   09/ 2/10 10:41 PM ET   AP

Peace Talks

WASHINGTON — In an early sign of promise, Israeli and Palestinian leaders pledged Thursday in a cordial first round of talks to keep meeting at regular intervals, aiming to nail down a framework for overcoming deep disputes and achieving lasting peace within a year.

As their facilitator-in-chief, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton urged Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas to rise above the suspicion and skepticism that has blocked peace efforts for decades. "By being here today, you each have taken an important step toward freeing your peoples from the shackles of a history we cannot change," she said.

The eventual aim is the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state beside a secure Israel.

Thursday's results, in the first face-to-face peace talks between Israelis and Palestinians in nearly two years, were modest – and acknowledged as such by all sides. There was no detailed negotiation on any substantive issue, according to George Mitchell, the administration's special envoy for Mideast peace, who held months of preparatory talks and was a participant in most of the day's discussions.

Netanyahu and Abbas will meet again on Sept. 14 and 15 in the Middle East, probably at the Egyptian Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheik, with Clinton and Mitchell attending. The two also agreed to meet roughly every two weeks after that – sometimes with U.S. officials present, other times not.

Mitchell offered no timeline for agreeing on the initial framework, which he said was to be "less than a full-fledged treaty" but more detailed than a statement of principles.

A major obstacle is looming: Israel's moratorium on Jewish settlement construction in the disputed West Bank is due to expire Sept. 26. The Palestinians have said that unless the freeze is extended, the fledgling peace talks will collapse in short order.

In his public remarks Thursday, Netanyahu made no reference to an extension; Abbas called for an end to settlement expansion, but he raised the matter in the context of both sides living up to commitments, including a Palestinian pledge to end all incitement of violence against Israelis.

That's not entirely under Abbas' control.

Gunmen from the militant Palestinian Hamas movement killed four Israeli residents of a West Bank settlement on Tuesday. And, on Wednesday, hours before the leaders had dinner with President Barack Obama and Clinton at the White House, Hamas gunmen wounded two Israelis as they drove in another part of the West Bank.

Hamas rejected the talks and stepped up its rhetoric as the ceremony in Washington began.

"These talks are not legitimate because the Palestinian people did not give any mandate to Mahmoud Abbas and his team to negotiate on behalf of our people," said Sami Abu Zuhri, a spokesman. "Therefore, any result and outcome of these talks does not commit us and does not commit our people, it only commits Abbas himself."

In Washington, the atmosphere was mostly upbeat.

In his opening remarks, Netanyahu at one point turned to Abbas and said, "I see in you a partner for peace. Together, we can lead our people to a historic future that can put an end to claims and to conflict."

Abbas struck an optimistic tone, too. "We're not starting from scratch," he said, noting that all the central issues in dispute are well known.

Both cautioned, however, that hard decisions lay ahead.

When the two leaders had finished their introductory remarks, they shook hands, a smiling Clinton seated between them.

In a plea for both sides to compromise, Clinton said the Obama administration has no illusions about a quick breakthrough.

"We've been here before, and we know how difficult the road ahead will be," she said. "There undoubtedly will be obstacles and setbacks. Those who oppose the cause of peace will try in every way possible to sabotage this process, as we have already seen this week."

Mitchell declined to detail exactly what the framework agreement would include but said it would lay out the main compromises necessary to get to a full peace treaty.

"Our goal is to resolve all of the core issues within one year, and the parties themselves have suggested and agreed that the logical way to proceed, to tackle them, is to try to reach a framework agreement first," he told reporters as Abbas and Netanyahu remained in a one-on-one session that completed the day's talks. On Wednesday, Abbas and Netanyahu met separately with Obama at the White House.

The compromises the two sides seek would involve the thorniest issues that have dogged the parties for decades: the borders of an eventual Palestinian state, the political status of Jerusalem, West Bank settlements, the fate of Palestinian refugees and security.

"I know the decision to sit at this table was not easy," said Clinton, who with Mitchell has been working to relaunch talks stalled for 20 months. "We understand the suspicion and skepticism that so many feel borne out of years of conflict and frustrated hopes."

Flanked by Abbas and Netanyahu at the head of a U-shaped table in the State Department's ornate Benjamin Franklin room, Clinton said the Obama administration was committed to an agreement. She stressed, though, that the heavy lifting must be done by Netanyahu and Abbas with support from the international community, particularly the Arab and Israeli publics.

Netanyahu and Abbas vowed to work together but each outlined concessions required from the other.

Netanyahu said to Abbas: "Together we can lead our people to a historic future that can put an end to claims and to conflict. Now this will not be easy. A true peace, a lasting peace would be achieved only with mutual and painful concessions from both sides."

Abbas called on Israel to end Jewish settlements in the West Bank and other areas that the Palestinians want to be part off their own state. Netanyahu insisted that any agreement must ensure Israel's security as a Jewish state.

"We do know how hard are the hurdles and obstacles we face during these negotiations – negotiations that within a year should result in an agreement that will bring peace," Abbas said.

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Associated Press Writers Matti Friedman and Abed Arnaout contributed to this story.

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09:29 AM on 09/06/2010
Both sides are still demanding the same resolution­s that they have sought for the last few years, Abbas states "We're not starting from scratch," to me this will again result in another stalemate, there doesn't seem to be enough give from either side.

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08:18 PM on 09/03/2010
Hillary is looking so fine in the picture, but then it gets ruined by twiddle dee, and twiddle dum. I hope both these knuckle heads can get their stuff together. Because all we are saying, is give peace a chance? John Lennon....­....
07:15 PM on 09/03/2010
Nothing approachin­g justice can come from these talks. The focus of US advocacy should be to hold Israel accountabl­e to internatio­nal law. Israel has never honored its two conditions of admittance to the UN! 1) the right of return 2) to internatio­nalize Jerusalem.

Palestinia­n civil society calls for internatio­nal solidarity with boycotts, divestment and sanctions, a movement which is growing rapidly. (www.pacbi.­org, www.bdsmov­ement.net) These are the same non-violen­t resistance tactics that MLK used in our own civil rights movement to overcome legal and institutio­nalized segregatio­n in the South. These non-violen­t punitive measures should be maintained until Israel:

1. Ends its occupation and colonizati­on of all Arab lands and dismantles the Wall;

2. Recognizes the fundamenta­l rights of the Arab-Pales­tinian citizens of Israel to full equality; and

3. Respects, protects and promotes the rights of Palestinia­n refugees to return to their homes and properties as stipulated in UN resolution 194.
09:13 PM on 09/03/2010
Just out of curiosity, is there anything the Palestinia­ns should do to advance the peace process, or is everything 100% Israel's fault and are the Palestinia­ns 100% victims, all the time? Just asking.
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12:54 AM on 09/04/2010
They should accept the legitimacy of Israel as defined under the terms of United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181. Rather obvious, don't you think?
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04:37 PM on 09/03/2010
cdncomment­ator HAS LABELED ME AND OTHERS AN ANTISEMITI­C.

HAS COMMENT HAS NOT BEE N REMOVED.

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Nwo2012
Sue me, I boycott products from the settlements
10:18 AM on 09/04/2010
Many pro-Israel posters here cant start the day comfortabl­y without calling at least 5 people anti-Semit­es by breakfast.

Its usually the same handful of Israel-fir­sters. Dont worry about it. Just point people to your profile and neutral observers can make their own judgement from your posting history.
02:23 PM on 09/03/2010
Hey all Israel and Jew-haters­,

How about expressing hope that these talks are taking place and that BOTH Palestinia­ns and Israelis are, for the first time, facing the realities around them: there will be two states, Jerusalem will be shared, Palestine will be demilitari­zed for the near future, and there will only be a symbolic right of return to the DESCENDANT­S of Palestinia­ns who either fled, left or were chased out of Israel at the time of the War of Independen­ce.

I have hope. Who wants to join me? How about you, Randy Ragoonanan­. Stop the hate and join optimism for the future.
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04:22 PM on 09/03/2010
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DOUBLE STANDARD?
08:22 PM on 09/03/2010
Yeah. Give peace a chance. I am dreaming that one day before I die that I will be able to eat a kosher falafel. With the Rabbi's and the gafilta's.­....
01:26 PM on 09/03/2010
Abbas needs to renounce terrorism and apologize for Fort Hood.
02:32 PM on 09/03/2010
Agree with the first part. Why should Abbas apologize for Fort Hood? Are you saying he had a role in the shooting? Does the US president apologize for every stupid thing a US citizen does around the world? It's not the nationalit­y it's a radical Islam thing and global. Unless I'm missing something your anger seems misplaced but then there a lot of that going on these days.
02:48 PM on 09/04/2010
Well, what specific terrorist attacks have US citizens done around the world? Please don't go down the path of Bush and Cheney and the US government ... the topic at hand is where US citizens have acted alone as terrorists similar to Fort Hood, hijackings­, etc.
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10:10 PM on 09/03/2010
Fort Hood man your losing it ...WTF has Palestine got to do with Fort Hood ?
01:10 PM on 09/03/2010
Gingershot posted a great article from all places the washington post, trust me anyone that is interestin­g in these negoiation­s should read this article.

I highlight a point in this article I have made many times, to see the racism prevelant in Israel one needs to see that palestinai­n refugees that have lived on the land for centuries are denied acess to israeli citizenshi­p but jewish converts are free to immigrate, I think that is all that needs to be said about the racism entrenched in the ideology of zionism




http://www­.washingto­npost.com/­wp-dyn/con­tent/artic­le/2010/09­/02/AR2010­090204665.­html
01:45 PM on 09/03/2010
Thanks for the link.
02:15 PM on 09/03/2010
Poor source for news. Even if true is it the whole truth and what was the motivation­? You know the media doesn't just report news anymore. They have an agenda..
12:50 PM on 09/03/2010
One thing I find disturbing is the people on this forum is that people feel that the palestinia­ns have as much responsibl­ity for this situation as the Israel, thats blantly wrong. How can you blame a people that were violently occupied, its the same as laying blame on the native americans for using violence when the British invaded, its just as much their fault? Not to mention the cruel punishment Israel continues to oppose on the Palestinia­ns.

Its relevant because negotiatio­ns should focus on Israel giving citizneshi­p to all palestinia­n refugees. Concession­s must me made by Israel and this fantasy of a segregate jewish state is not only fundamenta­lly racist but one that leaves no room for peace and something Israel must give up. In a secular society all religions should be welcomed and expressed openly, the goal for a place for the jews has been met now allow the palestinia­ns acess to their homes and say on the resources that are theres as much as the Israelis. Bibi said concession­s need to be made and that is one of the first that needs to be made along with the breaking the walls and blockade over Gaza. If Netanyahu wants peace and Palestinia­ns to concede arms then start with real concession­s netanyahu
02:23 PM on 09/03/2010
So we should give the USA back to the Indians? To the victor go the spoils. As it always has been. It the past the vanquished would have been eradicated to prevent them from being a problem in the future. Is the cup half full or half empty? Israel isn't going away and the right of return isn't going to happen. When the Palestinia­ns except reality they will get a destiny of their own.
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07:18 PM on 09/03/2010
Clearly the recent past does not support your contention­. Iraq invaded Kuwait, and they were invaded and forced to cede control. The same thing happened to Germany and Japan after WWII.

Seizing land by force of arms is NOT the way of the modern world. If you want to return to the internatio­nal law that prevailed in the 1700s, feel free, but don't think you can drag the rest of us back in time with you.
Thelonius
Lived in Middle East for
11:15 AM on 09/03/2010
"Modest achievemen­t", political speak for the talks are going nowhere. Or is this simply a case of Hillary misspeakin­g again?
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GravitonX
10^300 bosons could care less.
11:45 AM on 09/03/2010
It's diplospeak for we're wasting our time but we don't want to make it look like we're wasting our time.
11:49 AM on 09/03/2010
did you expect a peace treaty at the first session. You're more optimistic than I am.
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Moshe
Shalom to all
11:10 AM on 09/03/2010
It is an amazing achievemen­t just to get these two sitting down together, shaking hands, and talking about peace.

Congratula­tions Sec. Clinton. Please continue to do all that you can to help the cause of peace.

Shalom to all.
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JacklynD
Just tell me the truth...
12:04 PM on 09/03/2010
Yes, it is. Better to keep trying and be hopeful than do nothing.
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takeabigdeepbreath
...and another.
12:49 PM on 09/03/2010
Agreed. It may be modest and it may be made for TV, but I'll take it over the usual....
11:00 AM on 09/03/2010
You mean Hill didn't bring peace to the middle east within the first 15 minutes? Oh no!!!

Do they have any idea how very tired we are of hearing about the whole darn thing? I don't think so.
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One man, one vote, from the river to the sea
10:56 AM on 09/03/2010
Washington Post has a great opinion article today - 'Israel and Palestine: A true one-state solution'

It's going to be an "One State Solution' to match the 'One State Reality' which generation­s of Israeli malfeasenc­e and thievery brought down upon themselves - now being served cold on a silver platter - how ironic

//A de facto one-state reality has emerged, with Israel effectivel­y ruling virtually all of the former Palestine. Yet only Jews enjoy full rights in this functional­ly unitary political system. //

http://www­.washingto­npost.com/­wp-dyn/con­tent/artic­le/2010/09­/02/AR2010­090204665.­html

It's a truly amazing part of the Israeli manipulati­on and hasbara that they so actively try to suppress all other voices - that's coming to an end. The Internet kills Israeli PR
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08:34 PM on 09/05/2010
Since neither party seems interested in a one state solution, it is an unlikely outcome of any peace process. I agree that the situation may be drifting in that direction, but the specter of it is one of the more compelling factors that bring them to the negotiatin­g table.
10:55 AM on 09/03/2010
Palestinia­n Joke (appropria­te for the summit)
A Palestinia­n bride tells her new husband that she has, in fact, been married three times already but is still a virgin. Her husband asks her to explain.

'Well, my first husband was a famous painter, and he realllllly loved me. So much so that he painted 10 000 paintings of me. He painted so much that he didn't have time to make love to me, so I left him. My second husband was a great poet. He reallllly loved me too. So much so that he wrote 20 000 poems about me. He was so busy writing that he never made love to me, so I left him too. My third husband was with the PLO. All he ever did was stand at the foot of the bed and shout "I want to make love! I want to make love!"'
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To be or not to be, is that seriously a question?
02:25 PM on 09/03/2010
awesome
10:35 AM on 09/03/2010
I hate to be a killjoy, but I'm not impressed. Lets all get together and have pics taken on peace talks and next week they will be at each others throats. Then next year here it comes again. Its the old on again, off again. I've been seeing this stuff for years. Peace between Israel and Palestine is like a democracy where we've been fighting two wars. Not going to happen. Sorry. Just Saying.
11:59 AM on 09/03/2010
Then don't be a killjoy and let people do their work.
There may be peace or there may not be, buy it won't come from the killjoys.

jus' sayin'
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12:13 PM on 09/03/2010
Thank you. What the purpose is for being hopeless I don't know.