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Minister: 'Burn A Quran Day' To Go As Planned On September 11

Burn A Quran Day

MITCH STACY   09/ 7/10 10:18 PM ET   AP

GAINESVILLE, Fla. — The government turned up the pressure Tuesday on the head of a small Florida church who plans to burn copies of the Quran on Sept. 11, warning him that doing so could endanger U.S. troops and Americans everywhere.

But the Rev. Terry Jones insisted he would go ahead with his plans, despite criticism from the top U.S. general in Afghanistan, the White House and the State Department, as well as a host of religious leaders.

Jones, who is known for posting signs proclaiming that Islam is the devil's religion, says the Constitution gives him the right to publicly set fire to the book that Muslims consider the word of God.

Gen. David Petraeus warned Tuesday in an e-mail to The Associated Press that "images of the burning of a Quran would undoubtedly be used by extremists in Afghanistan – and around the world – to inflame public opinion and incite violence." It was a rare example of a military commander taking a position on a domestic political matter.

Jones responded that he is also concerned but is "wondering, 'When do we stop?'" He refused to cancel the protest set for Saturday at his Dove World Outreach Center, a church that espouses an anti-Islam philosophy.

"How much do we back down? How many times do we back down?" Jones told the AP. "Instead of us backing down, maybe it's to time to stand up. Maybe it's time to send a message to radical Islam that we will not tolerate their behavior."

Still, Jones said he will pray about his decision.

State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said the administration hoped Americans would stand up and condemn the church's plan.

"We think that these are provocative acts," Crowley said. "We would like to see more Americans stand up and say that this is inconsistent with our American values; in fact, these actions themselves are un-American."

Meeting Tuesday with religious leaders to discuss recent attacks on Muslims and mosques around the U.S., Attorney General Eric Holder called the planned burning both idiotic and dangerous, according to a Justice Department official. The official requested anonymity because the meeting was private.

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton added her disapproval at a dinner Tuesday evening in observance of Iftar, the breaking of the daily fast during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

"I am heartened by the clear, unequivocal condemnation of this disrespectful, disgraceful act that has come from American religious leaders of all faiths," Clinton said.

At the White House, spokesman Robert Gibbs echoed the concerns raised by Petraeus. "Any type of activity like that that puts our troops in harm's way would be a concern to this administration," Gibbs told reporters.

Jones said he has received more than 100 death threats and has started wearing a .40-caliber pistol strapped to his hip.

The 58-year-old minister said the death threats started not long after he proclaimed in July that he would stage "International Burn-a-Quran Day." Supporters have been mailing copies of the Islamic holy text to his church to be incinerated in a bonfire.

Jones, who has about 50 followers, gained some local notoriety last year when he posted signs in front of his small church declaring "Islam is of the Devil." But his Quran-burning scheme attracted wider attention. It drew rebukes from Muslim nations and an avalanche of media interview requests just as an emotional debate was taking shape over the proposed Islamic center near the ground zero site of the 2001 terrorist attacks in New York.

The Quran, according to Jones, is "evil" because it espouses something other than biblical truth and incites radical, violent behavior among Muslims.

"It's hard for people to believe, but we actually feel this is a message that we have been called to bring forth," he said last week. "And because of that, we do not feel like we can back down."

Muslims consider the Quran to be the word of God and insist it be treated with the utmost respect, along with any printed material containing its verses or the name of Allah or the Prophet Muhammad. Any intentional damage or show of disrespect to the Quran is deeply offensive.

Jones' Dove Outreach Center is independent of any denomination. The church follows the Pentecostal tradition, which teaches that the Holy Spirit can manifest itself in the modern day. Pentecostals often view themselves as engaged in spiritual warfare against satanic forces.

At first glance, the church looks like a warehouse rather than a place of worship. A stone facade and a large lighted cross adorn the front of the beige steel building, which stands on 20 acres in Gainesville's leafy northern suburbs. Jones and his wife, Sylvia, live on the property and also use part of it to store furniture that they sell on eBay.

A broad coalition of religious leaders from evangelical, Roman Catholic, Jewish and Muslim organizations met in Washington on Tuesday and condemned the plan to burn the Quran as a violation of American values.

"This is not the America that we all have grown to love and care about," said Rabbi Steve Gutow of the Jewish Council for Public Affairs. "We have to stand up for our Muslim brothers and sisters and say, "This is not OK.'"

FBI agents have visited with Jones to discuss concern for his safety. Multiple Facebook pages with thousands of members have popped up hailing him as a hero or blasting him as a dangerous pariah.

The world's leading Sunni Muslim institution of learning, Al-Azhar University in Egypt, accused the church of stirring up hate and discrimination, and called on other American churches speak out against it.

Last month, Indonesian Muslims demonstrated outside the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta, threatening violence if Jones goes through with it.

In this progressive Florida city of 125,000 anchored by the sprawling University of Florida campus, the lanky preacher with the bushy white mustache is mostly seen as a fringe character who doesn't deserve special attention.

At least two dozen Christian churches, Jewish temples and Muslim organizations in Gainesville have mobilized to plan inclusive events – some will read from the Quran at their own weekend services – to counter what Jones is doing. A student group is organizing a protest across the street from the church on Sept. 11.

Gainesville's new mayor, Craig Lowe, who during his campaign became the target of a Jones-led protest because he is openly gay, has declared Sept. 11 Interfaith Solidarity Day in the city.

Jones dismisses the response of the other churches as "cowardly." He said even if they think burning Qurans is extreme, Christian ministers should be standing with him in denouncing the principles of Islam.

All the attention has caused other problems for Jones, too. He believes it's the reason his mortgage lender has demanded full payment of the $140,000 still owed on the church property. He's seeking donations to cover it, but recently listed the property for sale with plans to eventually move the church away from Gainesville.

The fire department has denied Jones a required burn permit for Sept. 11, but he said lawyers have told him his right to burn Qurans is protected by the First Amendment, with or without the city's permission.

The same would hold true, he said, if Muslims wanted to burn Bibles in the front yard of a mosque.

"Of course, I would not like it," Jones said. But "I definitely would not threaten to kill them, as we have been threatened."

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Associated Press writers Matthew Lee, Mark Sherman and Anne Flaherty in Washington contributed to this report.

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Fidel Kabassu
11:51 PM on 09/10/2010
Loony toons!
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TheSojourner
My blog is up and running.
05:34 PM on 09/10/2010
I got my comment removed! No explanation! Why was my comment singled out? Maybe one of the mods thinks Jones is AOK. I can't think of any other reason. It was not against any of the guidelines, as far as I knew. It was just my opinion of Jones, and his ideas. There were many worse comments than mine. Do we have a secret admirer of this character within the mods? I don't think any of my comments have been removed since I started commenting on HP, once they were in. It must have been some sorehead that disagreed with me enough to give me an undeserved flagging.

I doubt if this will even get in, but at least the mods will see it!
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JimInHouston
Arma virumque cano...
06:49 PM on 09/10/2010
Sorry for your loss.

It happens to all of us from time to time.

Perhaps it's now what you said, but how you said it.
04:09 PM on 09/10/2010
A Message from Jesus to the Man Burning the Koran
How “Christ like” are you being right now?
Do you want another person to burn the Holy Bible?
ARE YOU DOING UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU?
GO AND FORGIVE yourself for the hate in your heart.
Apologize AT ONCE TO THE PEOPLE who worship God Almighty
YOU are NOT HERE to Create RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION.
STOP IMMEDIATELY, for what you are doing will come back upon you so strongly, you will know what Hell on Earth is like.
Stop IMMEDIATELY, APOLOGIZE, FORGIVE YOURSELF, AND GO IN PEACE.
KarasudaJay
My micro-bio is empty.
07:15 PM on 09/10/2010
I'm sure Jesus appreciates you passing on his message. He must have lost his password and couldn't post his message.
05:29 PM on 09/09/2010
Then i will burn some for them:)
07:47 PM on 09/09/2010
Dear Pesona NonGrata (unwanted presence)

Why would you do this?
05:24 PM on 09/09/2010
Quran burning cancelled. Dove Center just made the announcement.
05:10 PM on 09/09/2010
I recently heard the Mr. Jones is coming out with a new book. Anyone up for a weenie roast?
05:19 PM on 09/09/2010
Mr. Jones rocks
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01:31 PM on 09/10/2010
The book's been out a while. This is a promotional stunt. The publisher and Amazon, however, have scrubbed listings of it from their sites.
05:07 PM on 09/09/2010
A simple burn ban would put a stop to this. But I would guess this numskull would be glad to pay the fine. There is a price for ignorance.
05:18 PM on 09/09/2010
we need to burn all qurans now befor its to late:)
10:08 PM on 09/09/2010
Fool.
04:37 PM on 09/09/2010
"How much do we back down? How many times do we back down?" "Instead of us backing down, maybe it's to time to stand up. Maybe it's time to send a message to radical Islam that we will not tolerate their behavior."..... now u tell me, who invaded what country?
04:26 PM on 09/09/2010
Rev. Franklin Graham who repeatedly said Islam was a “wicked” and “evil” religion, and had advocated using “the most hellish weapon in our inventory, if need be, to defeat these people” has come out to oppose burning the Quran.

I always believe that people like Graham are far more dangerous that Rev. Jones. He has strong influence to the Evangelical community, in no small part due to his father's popularity. At the height of the Iraq War, I was in Hong Kong for business and Graham was doing his “Jesus loves Hong Kong” crusade. The media coverage was wall-to-wall. Famous celebrities were paraded as high profile converts, and Pastors were stepping over one another to get (or should I say buy) tickets. Reportedly over 400,000 attended the event, and children from 800 (yes 800) churches sang in the huge stadium. When I talked to my Christian friends about Graham’s hateful and warmongering record, they all gave me the same dirty look that I would never forget.

If Graham can generate this kind of interest overseas, image what he can do to the Evangelicals, and perhaps other Christians in the US. In my opinion, his toxic message is basically this: we are good Christians, our God is the truth. We will destroy you, but we have grace and we are not going to burn your holy book.
07:52 PM on 09/09/2010
I am honred to become your fan, dear picostep.

Marked as favorite.
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LibertarianJon
Ron Paul 2012!!!
03:54 PM on 09/09/2010
http://www.ikhwanweb.com/article.php?id=25885

There's an article on the Islamic Brotherhood website concerning a Bible burning by an Imam in Egypt... I don't remember reading 1 news article about that.... Does anyone else?? In fact, if you google Bible burning Muslim, It happens all the time... so apparently What's ok for them dosen't apply to the US???
04:04 PM on 09/09/2010
What's okay in a lot of places does not apply to the US. It's called taking the high road, having pride, having self-respect, being the bigger person(country). When people say "This is America", they're not giving directions to someone who took the wrong exit.
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LibertarianJon
Ron Paul 2012!!!
04:46 PM on 09/09/2010
Do you suppose that's why other countries and other cultures hate us??? Because we have to be "Better" than everyone else???
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Lauren Kottwitz
There must be some kind of way out of here...
03:28 PM on 09/09/2010
Although I am heartened by the knowledge that he only has 50 congregation members and by the seemingly-universal disgust for his actions, I am terrified that anyone in this country would do this. What a nut this guy is. What kind of person deliberately disobeys the President, the General in command of Afghanistan, the Secretary of State, the Secret Service and various other religious leaders who are not Muslim? A man filled to the brim with pride - one of the most dangerous sins. I think he needs to reflect on his devotion to Christ and ask himself what Jesus would do.
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JimInHouston
Arma virumque cano...
03:38 PM on 09/09/2010
"What a nut this guy is. What kind of person deliberately disobeys the President, the General in command of Afghanistan, the Secretary of State, the Secret Service and various other religious leaders who are not Muslim? "

There is nothing to "OBEY". This is a First Amendment issue. If he were burning a Bible or a flag, would you still have the same reaction?
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Lauren Kottwitz
There must be some kind of way out of here...
04:36 PM on 09/09/2010
Poor use of words on my behalf. What I meant was: what kind of person, when faced with pleas from all of those high-ranking people, would still choose to do this? Despite several warnings about the safety of ALL Americans and, in particular, the safety of our troops... pride to a fault. That's all I meant.

He absolutely has the right to do it. I just don't think it's smart. I think it's full of hate. I wish he wouldn't.

And if it was a group burning Bibles and American flags, I'd have the same distaste for their behavior. Hate is hate. Intolerance is intolerance. Whatever side it comes from.
KarasudaJay
My micro-bio is empty.
04:06 PM on 09/09/2010
Private citizens don't work for the President, making it irrelevant that they "obey" him. How could he disobey any Army general when he is not in the Army? Frankly, you might think private citizens should obey the government and the military, but I have some serious reservations about that.
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Lauren Kottwitz
There must be some kind of way out of here...
04:38 PM on 09/09/2010
Again, that was a bad choice of words. What I meant was this: any kind of person, when faced with pleas from all of those high-ranking people, who still chooses to do this, despite several warnings about national and troop safety is full of pride (one might even call it cajones)... pride to a fault. That's what I meant.
03:16 PM on 09/09/2010
Six Christians were burned alive in Pakistan yesterday when hundreds of Muslims attacked and looted their homes, sparked by rumours that pages from the Qur'an had been desecrated.

The dead, including four women and a child, were killed when Christian homes were torched by hundreds of muslims

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/02/christians-burned-alive-pakistan

Where is the outrage from li-b-erals and muslims?
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JimInHouston
Arma virumque cano...
03:39 PM on 09/09/2010
Notice that the Koran still hasn't been torched yet.
03:40 PM on 09/09/2010
The world has problems. You don't change them by criticizing others for their actions. You do it by taking responsibility for your actions. So says The Bible, Gandhi, and Michael Jackson. It probably says it in the Quran, too.

Does this not also apply to nations? Americans take responsibility for what other Americans do. It probably won't prevent anyone from torching homes in Pakistan this week, or this year. But it will do some amount of good.
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JimInHouston
Arma virumque cano...
10:15 PM on 09/09/2010
"So says The Bible, Gandhi, and Michael Jackson. It probably says it in the Quran, too. "

The text in the Koran has a way of being violent. Read this book for actual quotes from the Koran and Sura:
http://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Muhammad-Intolerant-Religion/dp/1596980281
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Rooster Coburn
Less Gov't + More Responsibility = A Better World
02:55 PM on 09/09/2010
This church, with 50 or so members, is about 100 miles north of Orlando, Fla.
It is an independent Pentecostal church and is in no way representative of mainstream Southern Fundamentalists or of mainstream Pentecostals for that matter. Any 'nutcase' can start his or her own "church", and a few actually do so.
03:12 PM on 09/09/2010
GOD BLESS our beloved Post-Christian Founding Fathers for gifting us with a sacred, man made Constitution, which allows Any 'nutcase' can start his or her own "church" and worship any kind of voodoo.

God bless freedom!
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Rooster Coburn
Less Gov't + More Responsibility = A Better World
03:23 PM on 09/09/2010
Would you prefer that anyone starting a church had to get the permission of the government first?
In Communist China they do.
02:44 PM on 09/09/2010
Anybody notice his church is a pole barn construction? with what looks like a fake stone facade in the front. Some newscaster called it a mega church. Talk about cheap !
03:05 PM on 09/09/2010
Some of the greatest churches I have attended were out of a tent. So lets not make it about rich or poor.
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JimInHouston
Arma virumque cano...
03:40 PM on 09/09/2010
Bingo.

What would Christ say?
03:42 PM on 09/09/2010
Sure, but there's nothing "mega" about 50 members.
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flya750
02:38 PM on 09/09/2010
The Iraqis dragged American contractors through the streets of Baghdad and hung them from a bridge, I wonder if they they thought it would offend American citizens.

Then in Somalia, Muslim rebels dragged the corpses of American GIs through the street, while crowds cheered.

I wonder if they were concerned about christians in the US being offended?
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KristinNoelle
07:47 PM on 09/09/2010
Hundreds of priests have raped young boys. That doesn't mean we should have a bible roast.
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JimInHouston
Arma virumque cano...
10:16 PM on 09/09/2010
But go ahead if you want to...nobody will threaten your life.