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David Axelrod: Republican Congress Could Be 'More Extreme' Than Bush (EXCLUSIVE)

First Posted: 09/07/10 11:46 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:35 PM ET

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With polls and prognosticators predicting a massive Republican rout -- and the likely election of uncompromising, out-of-the-mainstream conservatives -- in the fall, the Obama administration has begun raising dire alarms in its pitch to voters. Remember the Bush administration, the argument goes. It could be worse.

"I saw that [Alaska GOP Senate candidate] Joe Miller said that he would abolish Social Security if he had the chance and he is not alone," said chief adviser David Axelrod. "This is akin to what [Nevada GOP Senate candidate] Sharron Angle has said in Nevada and also a number of these other Republicans. So, this could go one step beyond the policies of the Bush administration to something more extreme than we have seen."

In an interview with the Huffington Post from his West Wing office late last week, Axelrod's criticism of the president's Republican critics were some of the most sweeping to date. The senior adviser called the GOP strategy for scuffling Obama, "insidious" if not "clever." Republican leadership, he ventured, has "put emphasis on throttling things down... hoping that the mess that they created... would be so difficult to clean up that they could then blame us for their problems."

"I think realistically what you have is a Republican Party that is now thoroughly focused on one thing and they have been frankly from the beginning: which is to try and regain power," he said. "And their strategy is to lock everything down and not let anything happen."

The remarks suggest a White House that is frustrated at the hand it's been dealt, as well as increasingly concerned about the state of the electorate. Axelrod declined to place a marker on how November will play out. But he did note that history is not on the side of the president he serves.

By Monday, that history's repetition was crystallizing. Stu Rothenberg, editor of the Rothenberg Political Report, released new predictions, putting the number of Republican gains in the House at 37 to 42 seats. Forty-five to 55 seats, he added, are "quite possible." A poll released by ABC News and the Washington Post the night before, meanwhile, revealed that for the first time in more the four years, the GOP is running even with Democrats in terms of the confidence it earns from registered voters. Faced with the possibility of a major, historic sweep on Election Day, however, the Democratic base isn't showing signs of turning out in November.

"In a sense, we are a victim of our own success, of the expectations that the president aroused, and the fact that we have gotten so much done," Axelrod said, in attempting to explain the enthusiasm gap between Republican and Democratic voters. "Everyone who has a particular passion says, 'Well if you got that done why couldn't you get this done? If you got health care done why couldn't you get energy reform done? If you got financial reform why couldn't you get something else done?' The successes we've had have been a double-edged sword. I hope that at the end of the day, however, people will realize that this has been a period of enormous progress. I'm not begrudging people's desire to get more done. There is a lot of pent-up energy and aspirations and all these things are important. But objectively this has been an enormously productive time and everyone who helped elect the president should feel gratified at what's been accomplished because it wouldn't have happened but for their efforts."

The problem facing the White House is that there is little they can do at this point to significantly affect the type of economic or political changes that would appeal to voters of any or all stripes. The president, over Labor Day weekend, laid out a set of fairly robust proposals to spur business growth, including extending tax breaks for research and development as well as money for infrastructure projects. Axelrod, likewise, pledged to have a vote the first day that Congress is back in session on a $30 billion small business tax cut bill that Republicans had stalled in the Senate. But even those measures don't seem likely to change the trajectory of public opinion or electoral politics.

"The depth of the problem that was created, the irresponsible policies, is something we are going to live with for a long time," Axelrod acknowledged. "People are struggling and you want a silver bullet that will make that all better but there is no silver bullet."

And herein lies, perhaps, the point that causes the most introspection among the Obama communications team -- how could they allow so many of those voters looking for a silver bullet to believe that the party that caused the strife in the first place is the one to fix it? An NBC/WSJ Poll released on Monday, for instance, showed that 58 percent of the public thinks Republicans would have different policies than President Bush's.

"Perhaps this is where we have been failing to communicate," said Axelrod. "[A] large number of people [don't] believe that a Republican Congress would go back to the policies of George W. Bush, even though their own leaders have said as much in public. Pete Sessions said we want to go back to the same exact agenda that was there before this president took office. So our job in the next eight weeks is to make sure that people understand that, that they understand the stakes."

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With polls and prognosticators predicting a massive Republican rout -- and the likely election of uncompromising, out-of-the-mainstream conservatives -- in the fall, the Obama administration has begun...
With polls and prognosticators predicting a massive Republican rout -- and the likely election of uncompromising, out-of-the-mainstream conservatives -- in the fall, the Obama administration has begun...
 
 
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yellowdog71
04:45 PM on 09/10/2010
The pundits are feeding the newscycle and the media is repeating the meme: Democrats are disparaged, disillusioned and won't turn out in great numbers this November.
They are hoping that actual Democratic voters will see that over and over and over and over and decide to stay home on Election Day, thus proving both the method and the result.
Seeing these poll numbers being wildly across the board shows that polls don't mean anything.
If Democrats believe the hype, the headlines which have been written months ago will be true. If Democrats do what they know to be the right thing: get up, get out and vote, then headlines will be re-written.
In my lifetime, only in the year-after-9/11 2002 elections did the party of the President not lose big. Democrats are sure to lose some but the tidal wave will only happen if we listen to what they want us to hear.
Think for yourself. Vote! Vote! Vote!
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Yarrr
03:02 PM on 09/09/2010
Oh I think they would be MUCH more extreme than Bush. Look at the casual way they are talking about murdering social security, when Bush got thoroughly embarrassed for trying to do it. Look at the casual way they are talking about defunding the government, stopping the government, getting rid of medicare/medicaid/food stamps. The current crop of republicans literally wants the less fortunate dead.
08:29 AM on 09/09/2010
Is Axelrod an idiot, or does he take us for idiots?

You are just realizing NOW that the Republicans only want to take back power? Golly gee willakers, imagine that...

No no no...all of the reaching out to Repubs has been cover for corporate-friendly legislation. We have had almost two years of "gee, those Republicans are mean" from this White House, when Obama should have used his pulpit to take a bat to them.

Now, you wanna' take the gloves off with two months to go? Best of luck, we'll need it.

Aaargh...weak, corporatist Democrats or off-the-rails insane Republicans. What a choice.
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Research is fundamental.
09:35 PM on 09/08/2010
I wish the media would stop telling me I'm not going to get out and vote. I live in Utah where it's more likely to snow in August than for a Democrat to win in my district but I'm still going to get out and vote for the Democrats.
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larmar
The vile maxim of the masters of mankind
12:55 PM on 09/12/2010
Me too... I'm firing every candidate with an 'R' beside their name. Even the dog catcher is gone if he has an 'R'
09:07 PM on 09/08/2010
am radio am radio am radio am radio
reaches people at the bottom of the economic puddle (not a ladder any more)
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JonBFertippton
02:23 PM on 09/08/2010
It now emerges that the so-called pastor who is creator of the Koran-burning misadventure spent the last ca. 20 years running a cult in a church near Cologne Germany. That explains why he is fixed on book-burnings and other semi-fascistic obsessions. He acted there as a brutal quasi-dictator over a congregation of almost 1000 people. He was penalized in Germany for using a doctor title that he did not have. The Germans eventually managed to kick the guy and his wife out and he returned to the States, to Florida where he and his "church" have become extremely famous - for their intended Koran burning. Is it possible to deport an American back to Germany? The Germans don't seem eager to have him back. I wonder why. Perhaps the guy could be placed on a convenient drone and transferred to Japan where he could learn to become a sushi chef, with specialization in the use of Wahabi.
08:09 PM on 09/08/2010
That's "wasabi," kemosabe.
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JonBFertippton
08:25 PM on 09/08/2010
It was a somewhat forced Islamic-tinged pun, hun (capital wubble-you).
Thanks for the heads-up anyway.
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NilesPDX
02:14 PM on 09/08/2010
TEN POOREST U.S. CITIES

City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level

1. Detroit , MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo , NY 29.9%
3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%
5. Miami , FL 26.9%
6. St. Louis , MO 26.8%
7. El Paso , TX 26.4%
8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%
10. Newark , NJ 24.2%

U.S. Census Bureau, 2006 American Community Survey, August 2007

What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all have in common?

Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961.
Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1954.
Cincinnati , OH (3rd) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1984.
Cleveland , OH (4th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1989.
Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor.
St. Louis , MO (6th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1949.
El Paso , TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor.
Milwaukee , WI (8th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1908.
Philadelphia , PA (9th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1952.
Newark , NJ (10th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1907.
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TeraWatt60
Cogito Ergo Sum
07:02 PM on 09/08/2010
and most cases of sunburn only happen during daylight hours...most major metropolitan areas are Democratic controlled ...that is one of the major differences in the parties, Repubtards are essentially rural  and the Democratic Party controls the cities and the suburbs are the "interface"
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bd7769
I am so often right, that I am a progressive
08:40 AM on 09/09/2010
most cases of sunburn only happen when you don't use sun screen.
08:57 PM on 09/08/2010
Poverty caused by such things as: Companies closing operations and moving oversees.
Thanks to Republican Tax cuts making these moves tax deductable events.

Money increaingly being used to make more money with the least amount of effort. From
Traders trading with traders mement by moment and out again, To driving up Commodity
Futures Prices...causing the cost of Manufacturing to go up.

In the last 9 years of Bush Tax cuts ONLY 9% Went into US jobs. The rest drove up oil
Prices (with the Help of the Gas &Oil Party) from $28 to $146 a barrel, Copper from 85 cents
to over 3.00...

So that now 60% of our Economy has nothing to do with Making things on Main St. And\
the only innovation is those "Products" the Republicans were still defending in January of
2009.

What Products: CHOPPED UP Mortgages! Which drove up the price of Real Estate in
the Republicans' "You're on Your Ownership Society" where the rich sucked the Middle
Class dry and thren went off to by BRIC/emerging Market stocks!!!

Then in small towns Walmart would open a smaller store in town. So custoimers when there and Jewelers, appliance and eye glass places closed. Then that Wal Mart would clost down
and people were forced to drive 20 miles to the next one! Context matters.
11:29 AM on 09/08/2010
disillusionment with the failure of a corrupt political system to bring back prosperity in america as we are forced to face the reality of decades of fantasy economics will cause the pendulum to swing farther and farther left and right as the nation descends into 3rd world status. at one point the pendulum will swing so far that its movement mechanism will become stuck in one extreme direction or the other (in the form of martial law, dictatorship, theocracy, etc.).
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Research is fundamental.
09:36 PM on 09/08/2010
Are you trying to cheer me up?
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MaryBethC3
12:27 AM on 09/09/2010
depressing but true. I think we're going to be stuck right where we are---a plutocracy.
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rain33
be bold & strong as a independent person
09:25 AM on 09/08/2010
see i kept saying that putting rahm as head guy was going to mess up president obama's plans. axlerod knew that gop tea party are more extreme as well idiotic as ditzy sarah palin! the white house better start throwing out more mudd and fire towards gop tea party because if they win this november, everything that he accomplished will be repealed and the democrat party better look out for their voters or else voters will go else where. i will vote so there is no excuse for any one including poor, old, working, students etc should not stay at home for november. whtite house better keep attacking now and get rid of some folks like rahm, gibbs, geithner and summers.
04:25 PM on 09/08/2010
Either Obama isn't very bright, or he employs Rahm, Gibbs, Geithner and Summers because they are doing what they want him to do.
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rory talbot
Former Dem but they r now wing of Corp. party
08:55 AM on 09/08/2010
What's the difference? Obama is more extreme than Bush.
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rain33
be bold & strong as a independent person
09:27 AM on 09/08/2010
yeah right? tea baggers are more extreme than bush!
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Roger
Better dead than red (state)
09:58 AM on 09/08/2010
If by extreme you mean sane, intelligent, rational and sympathetic then yes, you are absolutely correct.
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JavaManiac
...with liberty and justice for all
08:34 AM on 09/08/2010
Fast Food America! They want 8 years worth of disastrous policies to be overcome in 19 months and a complete economic melt-down in 19 months.
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kellym33
09:31 AM on 09/08/2010
So true! I want it NOW!! Why did we and over 8 long years to Bush, in which time he brought this country to the brink of destruction, but buddy, we want Obama to fix and fix it now!! We are an increasingly thoughtless society. We allow ourselves to be manipulated by the media and the lies and distortions that are spewed by the right. It is a sad state of affairs when we're so gullible as to be swayed by arguments that have no basis in fact.
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Research is fundamental.
09:37 PM on 09/08/2010
Exactly!
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Roger
Better dead than red (state)
10:05 AM on 09/08/2010
Yup, thats today's whiny average American voter. After literally having the world handed to them by the greatest generation, the members of the lamest generations have completely bought into their sense of entitlement. They actually believe that there's "magic in the markets" and that honestly rewarded labor is "socialist". They expect bigger and cheaper televisions but refuse to acknowledge that those televisions are being bought by staggering amounts of American wealth being handed over to China and the oil dynasties. They think that American exceptionalism carries no burdens of work or sacrifice, merely believing in ridiculous notions of divine intervention that bestow it upon is. They think that despite tons of research to the contrary, man made contribution to global warming isn't happening, that immigrants have a net loss effect on our budget and that there is a "liberal" mainstream media. I'll always be proud of America, but given how so many Americans are acting, I can only say that they are an ever increasing source of shame.
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Research is fundamental.
09:41 PM on 09/08/2010
I have also been confused by the claim of 'liberal mainstream media' since most of the media is owned by corporations that contributed millions to get George W. Bush elected and now they are repeatedly telling us who is going to win this November's elections and why they should. It's maddening.
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08:32 AM on 09/08/2010
Trivia:

On this date in 1974, Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon.

Political Crime was given a pass and GWB and Cheney who was Ford's COS at the time are the result
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jp5472
06:52 PM on 09/09/2010
Excellent point - two things came out of that era. 1) How to sell a war after the disaster of Vietnam, which Cheney used effectively in Gulf 1 and Panama before Gulf 2, and 2) How to game the system and avoid prosecution, as in just about every action either Cheney or Rove ever made while in power.
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Willie12345
08:27 AM on 09/08/2010
An "exclusive" with Axelrod? Who are you kidding. He asked Sammy for the interview. I'd be the very first to say that Axelrod is a very good politician. Without question, he is smart and clever. However, when he makes campaigning style comments, he's a dud. He's a behind the scene person and not a tactician. Great at the big picture, but poor in "hand to hand" combat. His remarks about Miller and other specific Republicans are poorly scripted and poorly delivered.
06:14 AM on 09/08/2010
Now David, tell us how much you and Rahm were involved in the decision making processes that turned what seemed an aggressive Presidential candidate, into a powder puff wielding President that caved to every whim of the Republican Party. THAT is why you are in trouble now. Was it YOU?? Was it RAHM?? Or does the blame lie with Obama?? And why in heavens name was Larry Goldman Sachs Summers brought in to make financial economic decisions.
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Willie12345
08:28 AM on 09/08/2010
The dog ate Obama home work......nothing more.
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
05:12 PM on 09/08/2010
He didn't CAVE on everything. He COMPROMISED because that is what you have to do to get anything passed when the republicans are filibustering every bill. Would you rather have imperfect health care reform or NO health care reform? Would you rather have NO credit card reform? I have credit cards and I can personally see the difference made. My bills are easier to read and the statement comes with an estimate of how long (and at what price) I will be paying if I make minimum payments vs a slightly higher payment. I can phone in my payment at no charge (they used to charge about $15 to pay a bill on the phone). I am no longer constantly being given the runaround and BS fees, etc. Larry Summers was brought in because he had a unique perspective on the financial mess in that he was part of the power structure when it all started crashing. I understand why you might not like Rahm, he is rather abrasive. But David? What did he ever do to you? He's cute, like a walrus. He hasn't done anything wrong. Get off his back. Summers isn't my favorite, but I get that he knows more about economics than YOU do.
05:32 AM on 09/08/2010
This article actually made me laugh. Axelrod is so clueless..."The remarks suggest a White House that is frustrated at the hand it's been dealt"...they dealt their own hand! With a super-majority they chose to enact Obamacare against the will of the people while they completely ignored the economy.

So many voters are m.a.d at their incumbent reps for siding with the party line instead of representing the constituents who put them in office. Proof that "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely".

So Obama won the battle (Obamacare) at the cost of losing his majority in Congress. The man who would be king will now be forced to co-govern with his opposition.
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SirSlappy
My micro-bio is still empty.
07:10 AM on 09/08/2010
They were dealt a mandate by the people, and they instead chose to get into bed with corporations. Goodbye Obama adminsitration. You were clueless.
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kellym33
09:38 AM on 09/08/2010
Obama's mistake was even attempting to compromise with republicans. It makes me crazy when people think that healthcare is unpopular for the same reasons on both sides of the aisle. Republicans would have never been happy with it. No matter what. Progressives are unhappy with it because it didn't go far enough. He wasted an opportunity by trying to play nice with people who had no intention of play nice back. Had he taken it farther, and been more progressive, he would have at least done what his base put him there to do. All that compromising, all that weakening of the bill, and he still didn't get a republican vote. What a waste.
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Roger
Better dead than red (state)
10:10 AM on 09/08/2010
Absolutely. Republicans played their Faustian bargain of obstructionism brilliantly. They knew that the American public would, like a typical child, forget that it was they who torched the economy. I couldn't agree more that Obama should have called them on their game from the very beginning. If only he had been the same man than campaigned, he could have easily forced them to paint themselves right into the dirty little corner that they scurried to in 2006 and 2008. He squandered an opportunity to expose them for who they are and we are all paying for it.
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MaryBethC3
12:21 AM on 09/09/2010
well said Kelly f & f :)