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Iran Stoning Case: EU Condemns 'Barbaric' Plan, Iran Scoffs At European Concerns

BRIAN MURPHY and NASSER KARIMI   09/ 7/10 07:03 PM ET   AP

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Demonstrators holding banners to support Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani who was sentenced to death in Iran, at the Trocadero square in Paris, Saturday, Aug. 28, 2010. Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, a 43-year-old mother of two, was sentenced to death by stoning for adultery. After international protests, Iran last month lifted the stoning sentence, but she could still face execution by hanging. Eiffel tower is seen in the background. Banners read, 'neither stoning, nor subjugation'. (AP Photo/Michel Eul

TEHRAN, Iran — The international crossfire over Iran's stoning sentence for a woman convicted of adultery intensified Tuesday with a top European Union official calling it "barbaric" and an Iranian spokesman saying it's about punishing a criminal and not a human rights issue.

The sharp words from both sides provide a snapshot of the dispute: Western leaders are ramping up pressure to call off the sentence for Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani and Iran is framing it as a matter for its own courts and society.

The case of the 43-year-old mother of two also spills over into larger and even more complex issues for Iran's Islamic leaders of national sovereignty and defense of their system of justice.

Iranian authorities routinely defend their legal codes and human rights standards as fully developed and in keeping with the country's traditions and values. They have widely ignored Western denunciations over the crackdowns after last year's disputed presidential election.

Iranian authorities also bristle at Western criticism – including U.S. State Department human rights reports – and say foreign governments overlook shortcomings in their own systems and fail to hold Western ally Israel accountable.

Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman, Ramin Mehmanparast, showed Tuesday that the Islamic state was willing to push back just as hard as the West – at least with rhetoric.

"If release of all those who have committed murder is considered defending human rights, all European countries can ... free murderers in defense of human rights," Mehmanparast told reporters.

Ashtiani's stoning sentence was put on hold in July and is now being reviewed by Iran's supreme court. Iranian authorities also say she has been convicted of playing a role in her husband's 2005 murder.

But her lawyer, Houtan Javid Kian, says she was never formally put on trial on the charge of being an accomplice to murder and was not allowed to mount a defense.

At the European parliament, European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said he was "appalled" by the news of the sentence.

"Barbaric beyond words," he said during his first State of the Union address in Strasbourg, France.

The case also has been wrapped up in claims of Iranian missteps and abuses.

Last month, Iranian authorities broadcast a purported confession from Ashtiani on state-run television. A woman identified as Ashtiani admitted to being an unwitting accomplice in her husband's killing. Kian said he believes she was tortured into confessing.

Then on Monday, Kian said he received word that his client was lashed 99 times last week in a separate punishment after British newspaper ran a picture of an unveiled woman mistakenly identified as Ashtiani. The newspaper, the Times of London, later apologized for the error.

There was no official Iranian confirmation of the new punishment.

Iran has given no signal it will bend easily to international appeals. Even an offer of asylum from Brazil – which is on friendly terms with Tehran – went nowhere.

The Vatican has hinted of the possibility of behind-the-scenes diplomacy to try to save her life.

French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner called the stoning sentence "the height of barbarism." Earlier, a hard-line Iranian newspaper, Kayhan, described French first lady Carla Bruni-Sarkozy as a "prostitute" for condemning the stoning sentence.

Mehmanparast, the Foreign Ministry spokesman, said the insult was not sanctioned by the government.

U.S. officials have so far let European allies lead the way over the case, preferring to keep up efforts to enforce tighter U.N. and American sanctions over Iran's nuclear program. But Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said last month that Washington remains "troubled" by the case and Ashtiani's "fate is unclear."

Ashtiani's lawyer sees the next critical period coming next week. The moratorium on death sentences during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan will end, and he worries that an execution could be then carried out "any moment."

Stonings of men and women were widely carried out in the early years after the 1979 Islamic revolution. More recently, the punishment has been imposed less frequently, but cases are rarely confirmed by authorities and no official records are released.

In January 2009, Iranian judiciary spokesman Ali Reza Jamshidi said two men convicted of adultery were stoned to death the previous month in the northeastern city of Mashhad.

Iran also reported a death by stoning in July 2007 for a man convicted of adultery. The U.N. human rights chief at the time, Louise Arbour, condemned the execution as a "clear violation of international law."

Hangings are frequently carried out in Iran, whose legal system is a mix of civil statutes and Quran-inspired codes. Magistrates, who are often Muslim clerics, have wide latitude on sentences for crimes that break moral codes.

In December 2008, Iranian authorities shut down the office of a human rights group led by Nobel Peace Prize winner Shirin Ebadi, whose efforts included appeals to ban stonings. Ebadi has not returned to Iran since last year's re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

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Murphy reported from Dubai, United Arab Emirates.

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09:32 AM on 09/09/2010
This is an example of how nothing has changed in the Middle East, and how, for the time being, nothing will. Whether or not the lashings occurred is a moot point. The fact that this would be an acceptable treatment for anyone, man, woman, or child, is appalling in nature. However, this will not be seen as such, because it has been accepted in Middle Eastern culture for so long that if changes are to come, they will come at a snail’s pace. Here’s hoping the Vatican can help this poor woman escape this abuse.
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rtgmath
There has got to be a better way!
10:33 AM on 09/08/2010
Let us understand that Iran is doing what it has done for hundreds (or perhaps thousands) of years. A tribal punishment, cruel, by its very nature, more favorable to the man escaping than the woman, and sanctioned by Islam.

Islam is a big topic. Muslims everywhere are at the center of controversy, whether right or wrong. That brings Islam itself into focus, including Sharia.

The likelihood of having Sharia law here in the US is close to nonexistent. But both Great Britain and Canada have allowed Sharia marriage courts. The testimony of a woman there is worth but one-half of the testimony of a man. And while the courts are not supposed to be coercive, they often are.

Republicans are spreading lies about Obama wanting to bring Sharia to the US. The lie worries many. And several calls have been made by various Islamic groups or individual Muslims to allow Sharia for their communities in the US.

Stoning for adultery is the prescribed punishment. Stoning - in this day and age, when we recognize that marriage is more about people than property and that abuse of one's spouse should not be tolerated. Here's a woman from an abusive situation. Sharia would have had her submit to it. After all, beating your wife is allowable. Iran claims she murdered her husband. If she did kill him, it was to escape abuse.

The punishment and situation are both barbaric. That worries people the world over as to what may come their way.
12:04 PM on 09/08/2010
Killing her husband to 'escape abuse' is a subjective and unproven at this time. Even so, how would we treat a similar fate here in the USofA?
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Fifty years ago, it was common for men to kill their wive...here in America. Often, criminal charges were unseen. So, too were the killing of the boyfriend be accepted. That was not too long ago. As for the comment of "beating your wife is allowable"...it is a norm here in the US. That is why there is such a high rate of spousal and child physical and sexual abuse...without repercussion.
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These domestic policies are equally barbaric...and women should be equally protected from extremist christians in this country who think no differently. Many of whom would blame the abuse victims.
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rtgmath
There has got to be a better way!
01:30 PM on 09/08/2010
There is a legitimate legal defense for killing in self defense. It doesn't always work, but usually abuse is considered a mitigating factor in determining punishment.

As for how common it was for men to kill their wives here ... Well, wherever it can be determined that a spousal murder has occurred, such things are prosecuted. That corruption exists and has allowed such things to go unpunished does not mean it is official policy.

Similarly for spousal abuse. Spousal abuse, spousal rape, etc. is punishable by imprisonment here in the US. We have laws against it. Does it happen? Yes. Does the wife *have* to put up with it? No. Unfortunately there are some areas and some belief systems which still countenance such things. But legally, the wife can file charges against the offending spouse and have them locked up for a time and then restricted by court order from their presence.

Again, what is family policy under Islam is not necessarily family policy here in the US, even if some of the same abuses occur.

I agree that extremist Christians often have the same attitudes toward women and encourage abuse. It is a pity. But we do have laws. They ought to be enforced.

And blame the victim is a universal strategy. Didn't Glenn Beck blame those who are out of work as being lazy and shiftless and only wanting to get government benefits? His attitude was barbaric as well.
08:04 PM on 09/09/2010
Since the sentence of stoning, being tortured to death, was from the adultery charge- the same offense that had her tortured with 99 lashes- the self-defense or whatever is tangential to this catastrophe. What we have on display is not only the judicial foulness and arbitrariness of IRI, but gross misconduct by IRI after the international outcry.
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flossophy
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04:46 AM on 09/08/2010
Yeah, let's have Iran get nooks... I'm sure they'll be rational, thoughtful stewards of the atomic b0.mb... since they respect human rights so much.

You lefties befuddle me.
FaceReality2
Democracy in the U.S. is an illusion
05:24 AM on 09/08/2010
Answer: self-interest. Ron Paul can explain it to you.
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MarcEdward
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09:09 AM on 09/08/2010
Nobody is "letting" them have nukes.
You have no argument.
FaceReality2
Democracy in the U.S. is an illusion
05:30 AM on 09/08/2010
Bad, but she won't be buried up to her head and then pummeled with small stones for hours on end.
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MarcEdward
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09:09 AM on 09/08/2010
So if the Iranians hung this woman you'd be fine with it?
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lunarsnare
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08:51 AM on 09/08/2010
I am very much against the death penalty.

But you need to read the article and be more familiar with the case before spouting of nonsense.
The woman had the presents of mind to plan and hire 2 hitmen to commit the premeditated mur.der of her husband and step son to collect $350,000 life insurance policy.
Is it insane and wicked? Yes

Facing harsh sentencing for depraved greed, many try to claim insanity.
This was committed out of greed, the incentive of money not passion or insanity.
The head line is misleading.
considerthis
I try my best
08:59 AM on 09/08/2010
If you want to say you are familiar with the case, then you must know that there's more to the story. One of the hitmen has confessed that he was the instigator and mastermind of the plot and the woman was duped.
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Peric Overde
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11:04 PM on 09/07/2010
How many Muslims are actually protesting this?

There seem to be many protesting the burning of the Quran by some Christian wacko.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/07/burn-a-quran-day-to-go-as_n_707823.html

Sad? I do think so.
09:51 PM on 09/07/2010
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Ironic. Protesting the killing of one woman...while French arms are killing thousands of innocent men, women and children.
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09:37 PM on 09/07/2010
Reading stories like these makes me sooooooooo happy to be an AMERICAN!!!
considerthis
I try my best
09:26 AM on 09/08/2010
There is something to be said for the "it could be worse" philosophy. Whatever it takes to remain relatively sane in these crazy times.
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rtgmath
There has got to be a better way!
09:31 PM on 09/07/2010
Tehran refuses to consider its own barbarism because it believes that the US and EU are even more barbaric. They saw the US invade Iraq with no justifiable provocation, and do not see that the US has any official rethinking of the human cost there.

Without doubt there were war crimes committed by the US and the EU in Iraq. One can't look at Abu Gharib and the atrocities there without knowing this inconvenient truth. Giving such extramilitary entities as Blackwater carte blanche in their activities was horribly wrong.

Many of the EU partners of the US pulled out because of disagreements about the war and its prosecution. In the US, defense of the war is increasingly a bluster. President Obama is feeling the heat about Afghanistan. But having been given a bad hand in policy when he came into office, he finds it difficult to do an about-face, especially in the light of the war hawks in the military leadership.

Civilian control of the military is always a tenuous thing. Like having a tiger by the tail, you are never quite sure if you have the tiger or the tiger has you! And you know it will if you ever let go!

Still, despite that, stoning of this woman would be barbaric. That is worth protesting. Many of us have and do protest the unjust wars. But even if the war is wrong, that doesn't justify Iraq's following a barbaric and questionable "system of justice."
01:51 AM on 09/08/2010
I hate to say it, but I fail to follow your point. Iran is doing what Iran has done since well before Iraq ever came into the picture. It's a custom. It's a tradition. It's a way of doing things that goes back hundreds of years, and that's why they're angry about everyone suddenly complaining about it now. Iraq isn't even part of the issue.

And you need to note, EVERYONE suddenly complaining about it now. It's not just the US, or Great Britain, or any other ally of the US in Iraq. It's worldwide, and it's occurring because the defenders of this woman happen to have strong ties outside of the country, and have made appeals on her behalf through just about every avenue available. Otherwise, virtually all of us wouldn't have know a thing about it.

I know the US sucks sometimes, but come on. Give history and reality a break.
03:13 AM on 09/08/2010
I see and appreciate your point, but it would be strengthened by realizing that stoning is an import brought in by the maniacs who run IRI. Before the so-called Islamic Republic, it was virtually if not literally non-existent.
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parsi
Once you label me you negate me--Søren Kierkegaar
08:11 PM on 09/07/2010
For those IRI supporters who don‘t know, stoning is a vulgar barbaric act. It consists of a group of people (more like animals) picking up stones, not too large to kill right away, and not too small to be harmless.

Yes, please take the time to look it up in the Islamic Penal Code, Article 71,..throwing stones at a condemned individual, buried partially in the ground, till that parson is dead, or escapes on foot, or by bicycle, in a taxi, bus

For the supporters of the barbaric IRI regime who have difficulty understanding vulgarity, imagine this,

the stones hit the condemned in the head, let’s say their eyes and blast it open,
intraocular fluid and blood pouring out, causing the person to go blind, but not dead,
so still capable of escaping on foot, or by bicycle, in a taxi, bus, train, or with an airplane, while their eyes are bulged out. But if they don’t escape then the next stone hits them in the head, causing the skull to fracture, with a sound that is similar to dropping a watermelon on the pavement, blood and cerebrospinal fluid oozing out. If the condemned has passed out by then, lucky of her, or him, otherwise the stoning continues, till the person is dead, or escapes on foot, or by bicycle, in a taxi, bus, train, or with an airplane, whichever comes first...read the rest

http://iranian.com/main/blog/multiple-personality-disorder/so-f uc king-ba d
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jackbutler5555
07:57 PM on 09/07/2010
Here's how to stone someone:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38146472/ns/world_news/
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Greg Mirsky
Riga dimd, Riga dimd, Kas to Rigu dimdinaj?
06:57 PM on 09/07/2010
To all who refer to "cultural traditions" I strongly recommend reading short socio-fi story by Maxim Shapiro Respect For Traditions conveniently translated by one of his fans http://zhurnal.lib.ru/s/shapiro_m_a/uvkultren.shtml
"The Law of Rational Respect of Other Peoples' Traditions" makes a lot of sense to me.
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parsi
Once you label me you negate me--Søren Kierkegaar
07:57 PM on 09/07/2010
Greg: Why do you assume Stoning is part of Iranian "culture"? This law has only been in effect since 1983. Before that there is no history of stoning prior to !979 Revolution.

Iran is country with 6000+ culture and history and this is the first time that Iran has had a government that is run by theocrats and clergies. Please inform yourself.

on cultural tradition and moral relativism:
http://www.maryamnamazie.com/articles/cultural_relativism_fascism.html
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Greg Mirsky
Riga dimd, Riga dimd, Kas to Rigu dimdinaj?
08:26 PM on 09/07/2010
Dear Parsi, I very well aware of changes that were forced onto Iranian society after 1979. As well as I'm aware and have sincere appreciation for rich and beautiful Persian culture. But unless Iranians stand up for that Persian culture we, outsiders, have no choice but associate Iran with what installed by Ayatollah regime. Silence is affirmative, you know.
All the best.
06:09 PM on 09/07/2010
You can use all the negative words you can think of when talking about a stoning, but NOTHING CAN PREPARE you when you actually SEE a stoning being done. It is brutal and horrific.
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Gavin Saunders
we only have each other
06:18 PM on 09/07/2010
That is why I think people should put forward that the judge that sentences her to death this way should be the one to carry it out. If not he perhaps one of his offspring.
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parsi
Once you label me you negate me--Søren Kierkegaar
05:47 PM on 09/07/2010
Israel Still Trades With Its “Existential Threat”
http://www.lobelog.com/israel-still-trades-with-its-existential-threat/
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jackbutler5555
08:01 PM on 09/07/2010
This relates to stoning in what way?
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parsi
Once you label me you negate me--Søren Kierkegaar
05:42 PM on 09/07/2010
The Eu is IRI's largest trade partner or at leaast it was up until last year or so. It's deeply hypocritical of the EU to feign concern over the plight of Iranians. This is not the first stoning case in Iran.
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Gavin Saunders
we only have each other
06:19 PM on 09/07/2010
Hypocritical or not "an injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere."
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jackbutler5555
07:59 PM on 09/07/2010
So, EU is hypocritical. Anything else you'd like to say about the stoning?
05:13 PM on 09/07/2010
biabouman41

You're obviousy a stooge for Iran . Every single person involved in this case has exonerated this woman . Tell me, did foreign agents or her boyfriend kill Neda Soltan like the Iranian govt. says or haven't we heard that whole story either ?