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Job-Creation Idea No. 3: The Joys Of Retrofitting

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First Posted: 09/23/10 11:19 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:50 PM ET

(Part of Huffington Post's America Needs Jobs series; see the introduction.)

Let's say you're running a country that's suffering from a terrible jobs crisis -- but you're worried about adding to the national deficit.

Well first of all, you shouldn't be so worried. The best way to reduce future deficits, hands down, is to spur economic growth. And the evidence is pretty overwhelming that spreading a lot of federal money around right now will pay off handsomely down the road.

But let's say that due to the political exigencies of the moment, you insist on hard numbers. You want your investment to pay for itself within a few years and then start reducing the deficit by real, measurable amounts of money.

Have I got the program for you. And in addition to putting people back to work and lowering the long-term deficit, you'll be increasing the country's energy independence, reducing greenhouse gases, and growing a key sector of the economy.

What does all that? A massive investment in retrofitting buildings to make them more energy efficient.

The Home Star program, also known as "Cash for Caulkers," is President Obama's plan to use federally subsidized low interest loans to encourage consumers to make energy efficient improvements to their homes. Legislation to that effect has passed in the House and has stalled in the Senate.

That's a fine idea, but even at low interest, it's hard for some homeowners to make any kind of investment in their homes these days, no matter how quick the returns are going to be.

For the federal government to retrofit its own buildings, however, is truly a no-brainer.

There are lots of ways that adapting to the challenges we face in the areas of energy and climate change could put America back to work; I'll be writing about a new energy economy, a carbon tax, and investing in public transit in the coming days. But I singled out this idea because it has a certain purity to it.

"The one area in the green economy that in my mind is the most fertile right now is retrofitting public buildings," says Bob Pollin, an economist at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst. "The payoff is very, very quick," he said -- as soon as three or four years.

The 2009 stimulus package contained a fair amount of funding for retrofitting, including $5 billion in weatherization services to low-income families, $4.3 billion for high-performance energy upgrades to federal buildings, and $4 billion for the energy-efficiency modernization and renovation of public housing facilities.

But Pollin, who has been tracking the effect of those programs on job creation, says they haven't reached critical mass. "The numbers are still too low, and they're not going to get big unless the government forces them to get big. And the best way to do that is to mobilize the government itself," he told The Huffington Post. "Let's start hiring crews."

It's the economies of scale that really intrigue John A. "Skip" Laitner, director of economic and social analysis at the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy. A big commitment to retrofitting government buildings doesn't just create jobs and reduce energy costs, it also provides huge incentives for the private sector to invest in research and technology and infrastructure and labor in ways that will bring the cost of energy efficiency down for everyone.

With the government providing a large, stable market -- "a beachhead, an anchor if you will," Laitner said -- private industry will improve quality, reduce costs and expand operations in a way that it wouldn't have had the confidence to do otherwise.

Laitner sees a government initiative -- something on the order of $20 billion a year -- sparking a burst of investment and competition among performance building design firms, the contractors and architects that feed into them, and manufacturing firms that produce improved construction materials, heating and ventiliation systems, lighting systems, controls and wiring, and even turbines and generators

"All those things ripple through the economy in very productive ways," Laitner said.

They also speed up the payoff for the government's investment. "The payback right now may be 7 to 10 years, but as the economies of scale begin to kick in, it may be a 4 to 5 year payback," Laitner said.

Pollin says he has some reasons to hope that the idea will capture Obama's attention. For one, the president has already declared the concept of retrofitting "sexy."

Speaking at a Home Depot in Northern Virginia in December, Obama had this to say: "I know the idea may not be very glamorous -- although I get really excited about it. We were at the roundtable and somebody said installation is not sexy. I disagree..... Here's what's sexy about it: saving money. Think about it this way: If you haven't upgraded your home yet, it's not just heat or cool air that's escaping -- it's energy and money that you are wasting. If you saw $20 bills just sort of floating through the window up into the atmosphere, you'd try to figure out how you were going to keep that. But that's exactly what's happening because of the lack of efficiency in our buildings."

The Vice President is a fan, too. His Middle Class Task Force put out a whole report on the topic of Recovery Through Retrofit.

In an article in the Nation in March, Pollin showed his math:

There are roughly 24 billion square feet of building stock in hospitals and healthcare, education and government buildings. This is about 20 percent of all US building stock. Retrofitting these buildings would cost about $150 billion. If we assume this program is implemented over three years, at $50 billion per year, this would generate about 800,000 jobs per year over those three years. Retrofits are a highly efficient source of job creation, since all the work must be done within local communities, and a large proportion of the budgets go to hiring workers, as opposed to buying equipment, land and energy.


This government-led project could be the launching point for a larger effort to build the institutional and market support for retrofitting remaining private-sector structures on an economy-wide scale. In addition to private hospitals and schools, the potential market for private retrofits for commercial and residential buildings is in the range of $650 billion. If even 20 percent of these buildings were retrofitted by the end of 2012, it would create another 800,000 jobs per year. Retrofitting alone could thus generate about 1.5 million of the 18 million jobs we need to create by the end of 2012. About 600,000 of them would be in construction, making up for one-quarter of the 2.6 million construction jobs lost since mid-2007.

Trevor Houser, a visiting fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, describes yet another positive effect. Spending just $10 billion a year on retrofitting government buildings, he writes, would not only create up to 100,000 jobs between 2009 and 2011 and start saving the government about $1.6 billion per year on its utility bills, but by reducing overall energy demand would lower energy prices.

As a result, he writes:

$10 billion spent on government retrofits would save the economy as a whole an additional $2 billion per year. Redirecting this money from energy purchases towards the normal basket of household purchases would create and sustain an additional 20,000 net jobs through 2020.

Jobs for American workers, reductions in carbon emissions, increased energy independence, it pays for itself and then offers big savings down the line. What's not to love?

Only in a town utterly paralyzed by partisanship and hobbled by an inexplicable, self-destructive and short-sighted deficit phobia would it even be a contest.

TOMORROW IN THE AMERICA NEEDS JOBS SERIES: Putting Young People To Work

(Want to learn more about the series? Read the overview. Got an idea you think we may have overlooked? Email froomkin@huffingtonpost.com.)


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(Part of Huffington Post's America Needs Jobs series; see the introduction.) Let's say you're running a country that's suffering from a terrible jobs crisis -- but you're worried about adding to th...
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10:14 AM on 10/15/2010
This is a splendid idea. There is a opportunity for the government to give a boost to the private sector by hiring businesses to retrofit government buildings. I am a firm believer that the people should control the economy, but it doesn't hurt to have a helping hand in Washington and at the State level. The unemployed would benefit. Businesses would benefit. The Government would benefit. Not to mention that we could also provide a boost to technology and innovation in this country. By creating a hightened demand for energy efficient products, we should be able to then put more emphasis on improving energy efficient technology. Maybe then we could provide a boon to manufacturing by building better PV panels, efficient water and home heating systems, cars and a plethora of other products.

Innovate the technology here in the USA
Manufacture new products here in the USA
Start a NEW Industrial revolution!
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MissingAmerica
05:04 PM on 09/24/2010
What a boon this would be to the economy! Currently, tradesmen such as carpenters, framers, construction workers, plumbers and electricians are out of work. Even if the work needs to be done, homeowners can't afford it. The few jobs for commercial are held by unions and their pay has been cut since they are just grateful for a paycheck. Most businesses, however, can't afford any repairs and it has become a vicious circle. How I would love to see this pass and put the middle class in this country back to work! I, for one, am going to contact my Congressmen and emphasize the importance of passing this legislation. My guess is the Democrats will get it, but the GOP will always find flaws. Time to cross party lines and start thinking about what is good for America!
12:39 PM on 09/24/2010
If the job market was booming the Armed Forces could not find soldiers to fight the Iraq and Afghanistaqn Wars. The government would then have to start the draft (Selective Service) again and public opinion would stop the wars. Republican John McCain and Linday Graham's Military Industrial Complex cannot become mega rich from the taxpayers without a couple of wars.
12:49 PM on 09/24/2010
Sorry, but how does this relate to your position on "Job-Creation Idea No. 3: The Joys Of Retrofitting"?
10:05 AM on 09/24/2010
Good and bad:
GOOD: Temp jobs galore
BAD: Mostly uneducated,illiterate, under-paid employees are hired for those jobs. Who are those individuals? Mostly illegals (sadly).
When it comes to creating jobs, temp jobs is not a solution, remember the temp jobs created by the Census a few months back? Most of those folks are on the unemployment line again.
We need to focus on permanent, long-term growth.
Lode
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01:00 PM on 09/24/2010
Thank you for a comment that is relevant to the topic.

There are a tremendous number of skilled trade workers (American workers: plumbers, HVAC, electricians, carpenters) that have been impacted by both the commercial and residential building collapse. - this could help them.

This need not be temporary (1-2 years) as there is a chance that commercial and residential owners become "smarter" over time about cost/benefits. Technology improvement might change the economics. Ability to monitor energy usage real time with smart meters, more skilled workers in this sector would create pricing competition....
01:49 PM on 10/12/2010
The point with having these jobs that may be slightly temporary is that you are pumping money into the lower and middle class - construction workers, trade workers, etc. Those people go out and spend huge ratios of their money in the economy. This money spurs demand, which forces businesses to actually hire to keep up with demand, and voila, your temporary jobs become permanent jobs as more and more people are hired and more and more people can spend money. That's what this is about. I agree - hiring people for one month won't do it. But if these jobs last 3, 4, 8 months, well then you're in business.
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08:24 AM on 09/24/2010
Good article, thanks.
11:17 PM on 09/23/2010
"And the evidence is pretty overwhelming that spreading a lot of federal money around right now will pay off handsomely down the road."

What a load of horse manure.  This why the stimulus failed.  Money needs to be spent wisely and it MUST, do you hear, MUST have a positive ROI.  I know Obama said any spending is stimulus, but is simply is not true.  You can have temporary stimulus by just willy nilly spending, but we were looking for LONG-TERM job creation, or at least that is what I thought. 

Look in my state 7 tiny bridges to nowhere got stimulus money.  Sure a few people got temporary jobs, but since those bridges rarely get used, the ROI was lousy.  We also got brick planters on our highway.  So yes they look nice, if not too nice for the stretch of road they are on, but since few cars even pass that way nobody noticed the work nor was it an expense that would pay off.  As it is, now those planters will need attention every year.  They should have just put in perennials/wildflowers  and never have to do a darn thing but enjoy.  

Actually stimulus dedicated a total of 15 billion towards government buildings.

There is something awkward about suggesting the emphasis of savings should be for federal buildings.  You are then assuming this savings would do what?  Do you have an intended use like paying down the debt?

I would much prefer to see that savings go to individuals that are freezing in poorly insulated homes and using very outdated appliances that are blowing circuits and burning through energy.  The energy credit was a good start, which I used as did many in my town, but it needs to be stepped up a lot.  My town is full of old homes that are leaking everywhere.  I live where it dips to -30.  I cringe to think of the heat lost with many of the buildings and houses in my town. 

We insulated our garage last year that is attached to the house and saved about 1/4 on our heating bill.  Even when it hit -30 the garage never got below freezing. 

Let's think about our families first.   
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09:00 PM on 09/25/2010
administration wanted 100 bill TO this problem
house and seante had to cut it to the current 20 billion

the money went to the state so they could spend as they choose

if u dont like how your state spent the money

call them on it
not the feds

agian most "spending" went to states->private contractors
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Cleverboots
09:30 PM on 09/23/2010
Great idea! Let's hope it catches on.
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Tsakonas
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08:19 PM on 09/23/2010
In order for retrofitting to work for Americans, we must end the Bush era of turning a blind eye to builders hiring illegals. This practice is still going strong, but when I did that type of work during the Clinton days, builders were terrified of getting caught with illegals. INS and IRS both have issues with this practice and cutting it off cuts off the source, the root if you will, but we Americans like to discriminate first, think later.
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Tsakonas
Architect
07:56 PM on 09/23/2010
Green retrofitting rarely includes solar because of expense. I'm a green Architect and I've designed many commercial and residential buildings using sustainable principles. At very least caulking and insulation are two of the cheapest building materials and can do wonders for energy efficiency in an older home. Solar water heat is affordable, but solar electric PV is still too expensive for the average person. Demand will bring down the prices and so will innovation. Building codes are adding more efficiency requirements all the time.

All AIA members must take courses annually in sustainability to maintain membership. The entire Architectural profession has been focused on sustainability for a decade now. Most gov agencies, universities, etc. already require LEED certification for all new buildings. LEED is a green building program using a point system to qualify a building's greenness. We're already building the most efficient new buildings, but the old ones need help. It's always better to get more life out of a building if it's fiscally possible. They take up a lot of room in the landfill.
08:07 PM on 09/23/2010
It depends how it's financed, PACE bonds spread the payback period over twenty years, like paying for a sewer system, at a very low interest rate. In the northeast, solar hot water is cheaper than oil, especially if you have forced hot water to start with. As far as PV is concerned it seems to me that inverter technology is not changing but rather panels, so one could create a base system with one panel that could be upgraded later, when panels are cheaper. Of course weatherization is always the first step after auditing.
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Tsakonas
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07:33 PM on 09/23/2010
The rich have had their tax breaks for a decade and did quite the opposite of creating jobs. They got richer and refuse to spend in such a slow economy. Buying low and selling low is not lucrative when you're rich enough to hibernate. Only can the gov get the economy going and once it sparks the rich will start spending again. A large retrofit program makes so much sense (cents) it would be impossible for we Americans do. The Repugs would never let it happen, especially when they control of Congress and lock it all down just to prove the point that they are childish and psycho enough to take down the whole country if they don't get 100% of their way. No more compromising, just a blood feud, a civil war.

What's most despicable is that for two years not one Republican has done anything to help recovery. They proudly declare their political strategy of Obstruction because they think it's better for the country to spend 2-4 years obstructing their opponents out of office and only then will they actually start helping fix things. All of this instead of accepting their defeat and working with their opponents to get recovery efforts started right away instead of waiting 2-4 years. How can anyone defend that behavior?
06:13 PM on 09/23/2010
Bill Clinton raised awareness about a program in New York City where they hire kids in the summer for a summer jobs programs that would paint the tar roofed buildings with a white paint, so that it would save the building owner money on their energy bill by the paint deflecting the heat away from the roof. Those who follow me know that the way to get out of this recession and to get people to work is to spend out of it. Yes, you have to. Also alot of people are worried about our national debt, or they say that Obama is just sitting around and doing nothing to help get the economy back on track. remember Obama is not a job agency. His job is to ensure that his policies are to help businesses hire and to attract small businesses to grow and hire as well. If you studied economics and politics the only way to get out of the recession is to spend out of it. It's worked everytime, and it even worked during the great depression.
07:44 PM on 09/23/2010
If it was profitable and energy saving to paint those buildings then there should be no reason for government involvement at all. There are companies that do that. A building owner would simply need to see an advertisement or become aware of it and call them. Why involve a government beauracracy, all that does is add to the debt and feed some unnecessary government entity?

Many now argue that the New Deal in fact prolonged the Depression but there is no consensus. There may have been a time when government stimulus was part of an acceptable economic plan but now it isn't. The debt and spending are unsustainable. Businesses are sitting on trillions of dollars that could be used to invest, creating jobs and getting us out of this hole but will never do so with this anti business administration in power. From uncertainty with taxes, forced healthcare, runaway debt and spending, complex and overreaching regulatory environment, the possibility of a massive increase in energy prices if they pass tax and trade and the knowledge that if they are successful despite all of that they will be taxed and demonized by the government. No there will never be a real recovery while the anti-business leftists are in power.
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Tsakonas
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08:10 PM on 09/23/2010
You obviously don't understand that Bush had to borrow $700 Billion in addition to the budget in order to give 10 years of tax cuts. His own party designed them to expire. You seem to not understand that these tax cuts going mostly to the top 1-2% cost US almost as much as HC Reform. The same cuts gave handsome rewards of off shore tax havens for outsourcing millions of jobs. The rich never created any net jobs with these cuts. We went from 4% unemployment to a landslide of 770,000 jobs lost per month. The rich are the only ones with money and they aren't spending a dime until things sweeten up. Only the gov will spend now and the rich will follow. Japan did it the way you say and they're still struggling after almost two decades. The rich only get things going at a time like this when they need to generate more cash flow.
02:36 PM on 09/24/2010
Tedfl34, your so blinded by the Neo-Cons spin. First, Th summer program I mentioned started from the Clinton Global Initiative, which involves businesses and individuals to donate money for the project to put summer kids to work. So it isn't a government program. The New deal was actually fought by the Republicans but, if you look at the Best president ever in American History, FDR, then you see not only did he get us out of the great depression. He fought the Nazi Germans against the wishes of the Republicans who at that time put in legislation prohibiting Roosevelt from going to war, but he sent ships to escort British ships, knowing that there were German submarines in the area, provocate the Germans to strike at our ships. Also The Republicans made legislation to not help the British by putting into the legislation that the British would have to pay cash for the military arms they desperately needed. Again, FDR outsmarted them, and came up with the Land-Lease deal. So FDR Not only helped our economy, but helped to stop the Nazi's and the Japanese and made us into a capitalistic powerhouse that we are today. He also created the United Nations. abolished Child labor, even though the Republicans were against it. He created collective bargaining for the workers, more rights for all. Now that is a great president who by the way that was a Democrat. And served 4 terms as President.
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Kache
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05:15 PM on 09/23/2010
The Home Star program Dan mentions was passed by the House in May. Guess what happened to it in the Senate? Yup, Rethugs were mad they hadn't thought of it and threatened a filibuster. That's where millions of jobs sit, in Mitch McConnel's pocket. The jerk should be beaten with a stick.
06:20 PM on 09/23/2010
I was thinking about turtle soup.
05:03 PM on 09/23/2010
Just now, watching Dylan Ratigan's Job Wars/Fair story in Big D - which ALWAYS has one of the countries lowest unemployment rates.............someone wrote in about 59 yro talking to 24 yro HR people. I'm 56 and have run into the same situation - totally wrong that these people with very little experience are put in these positions - they look at us like we are or should be retired. Here is my idea - GIVE TAX BREAKS TO FIRMS whom employ people over 50-55 - Then, maybe we could at least get our foot in the door for an interview.
05:13 PM on 09/23/2010
thats a good idea.
'Did you catch dylan last comment he read from a commenter.

They were dissing the Pres and the democrats for extending unemployment
for 99 weeks. SOmeone need to put dylan on the unemployment line and see
if he feels differently when it is him
06:29 PM on 09/23/2010
We can do more. Many of the long-term unemployed no longer have the resources, to land or keep, a private-sector job, it's time for the government to step in and make them employable again. Anyone that knows how to work an Excel spreadsheet, can do this. Now if we would just help the unemployed by fixing the infrastructure, but not in the way that comes to mind. The movement of government documents, from unstructured to structured and the creation of EHR for all medical records are highly labor intensive jobs, that require XML, but can be learned quickly by the unemployed, the creation of these would provide on the job training, could be done on second or third shift, using the computers at our schools and since XML is the next large productivity tool for small and medium size businesses over the next decade, the experience is needed by private industry. Under the current $42,000 for Doctor's offices to convert to electronic records, most of the work would be done in India, depriving America of a much needed middle-class skill set because categorizing information, XML and information is a growing industry.
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01:26 PM on 10/28/2010
great idea, giving more training, especially training that doesn't screw the finances of the person who wants training for many years to come the way colleges and tech schools do. i think community tech schools need to be more subsidized and tuition lowered drastically.
in my area, almost everyone takes or can take full office training in high school. rather than making you more employable, even if you can prove that you know office 2007, people are only interested in hiring people for entry level receptionist and clerical jobs if they have a clerical degree or 2+ years of experience. because apparently making spreadsheets, typing, answering telephones, filing, and filling out forms requires a 2 year degree. we need to either fix college systems so people can afford to go, or force employers to seriously look at what actually qualifies someone for a job.
04:39 PM on 09/23/2010
No matter how low the price goes, efficiency is still a great deal.
04:11 PM on 09/23/2010
Are people paying to do this twice? First through taxes, then through loans/interest? I suppose I need clarification.