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Obama: Ahmadinejad's UN Speech 'Offensive,' 'Hateful'

MATTHEW LEE   09/24/10 06:23 PM ET   AP

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NEW YORK — President Barack Obama and Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad traded heated remarks Friday on the emotional subject of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, and hopes for a quick resumption of talks on Iran's suspect nuclear program appeared to fade.

Obama accused Ahmadinejad of making "offensive" and "hateful" comments when he said most of the world thinks the United States was behind the attacks to benefit Israel. The Iranian president defended his remarks from a day earlier at the United Nations General Assembly and suggested that a fact-finding panel be created by the U.N. to look into who was behind them.

"It was offensive," Obama said in an interview with the Persian service of the BBC that was to be broadcast to the Iranian people. "It was hateful."

"And particularly for him to make the statement here in Manhattan, just a little north of ground zero, where families lost their loved ones, people of all faiths, all ethnicities who see this as the seminal tragedy of this generation, for him to make a statement like that was inexcusable," Obama said.

Obama said Ahmadinejad's remarks will make the American people even more wary about dealing with his government.

"For Ahmadinejad to come to somebody else's country and then to suggest somehow that the worst tragedy that's been experienced here, an attack that killed 3,000 people, was somehow the responsibility of the government of that country, is something that defies not just common sense but basic sense – basic senses of decency that aren't unique to any particular country – they're common to the entire world," he said

In a news conference at a Manhattan hotel, Ahmadinejad shot back, saying he had not made any judgments about who was responsible for 9/11 and lashed out at the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as an overreaction to the attacks.

"I did not pass judgment, but don't you feel that the time has come to have a fact finding committee," he said of his General Assembly address that prompted the U.S. delegation to walk out of the session along with those from all 27 European Union nations, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and Costa Rica.

America should "not occupy the entire Middle East ... bomb wedding parties ... annihilate an entire village just because one terrorist is hiding there," Ahmadinejad said.

Accusations that the U.S. or Israeli governments were culpable in the Sept. 11 attacks surfaced not long after U.S. authorities blamed young Arab men for hijacking American passenger jets and crashing them into the World Trade Center towers in New York and the Pentagon in Washington.

A survey by the Pew Global Attitudes Project in 2006 found that majorities of Muslims in Indonesia, Turkey, Egypt and Jordan said they did not believe groups of Arabs carried out the Sept. 11 terrorists attacks. The survey also found that just over half the Muslims in Great Britain held similar opinions, as did almost a fifth of Muslims in the U.S.

Ahmadinejad routinely makes incendiary remarks, including verbal threats to destroy Israel, that the West believes are aimed at diverting attention from heavy international pressure on Tehran to end uranium enrichment and prove that it is not trying to build a nuclear weapon.

Iran, which insists it is enriching uranium only to fuel nuclear reactors to generate electricity, is under four sets of U.N. Security Council sanctions as punishment for its failure to make its nuclear ambitions transparent.

It has continued to defy international demands to come clean about its intentions despite offers of incentives to cooperate.

Earlier this week, the five permanent members of the Security Council – the U.S., Britain, France, Russia and China – and Germany renewed their invitation for Iran to return to the table amid signs that Tehran might be willing to resume long-stalled negotiations.

Ahmadinejad said Friday that he thought Iran might be able reopen contact next month to set a framework for negotiations with the group, known as the P5+1. He added that he would "consider" a halt to uranium enrichment if an outside source would provide the 20-percent enriched fuel Iran needs for a medical research reactor.

But Obama seemed unimpressed with the Iranian position. He sharply criticized Iran's leadership for hurting its people by incurring severe financial and trade sanctions when it refuses to comply.

"Right now what the Iranian government has said is, it's more important for us to defy the international community, engage in a covert nuclear weapons program, than it is to make sure that our people are prospering," he told the BBC. "And the international community I don't think prefers the choice that has been taken."

Obama stressed, however, that the door to negotiations remains open. Ahmadinejad has so far refused to return to talks because of the latest round of sanctions that followed Iran's failure to respond to Obama's initial overtures.

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Associated Press writer Mark S. Smith contributed to this report.

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06:12 PM on 10/16/2010
maybe wasnt behind it, but Obama cant deny they took advantage of it
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12:00 AM on 09/28/2010
There's a lot we don't know, and Cheney won't tell.
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1776 or 1984
IT'S AN EMPIRE, NOT A REPUBLIC!
08:53 PM on 09/27/2010
I see the influence of CSI on this thread.

90% of the thread is dedicated to evaluating the destruction resulting from the attack.

Were the buildings wired or not, WTC 7, etc. These are good lines of inquiry, however, not holistic enough IMO.

That is why I prefer to look at the people involved on the road to 9.1.1. At the end of the day, all crimes are committed by people, so I prefer to examine the people.

I have posted some key facts concerning major players on the road to 9.1.1. from Peter Lance's book Triple Cross. Some of these facts were not told to us by the government and news sources that are dependent on advertising revenue.

For instance, the same players are involved with the 1993 WTC, Oklahoma, Africa Embassies, and 9.1.1. Most striking, is that Nicols and the first WTC attacker got together in the Philippines. How in the world can a "homegrown" get in contact with the WTC 93 fugative and meet in the Philippines? Also, the US authorities had the 9.1.1 plot since 1995. The credibility of the US government is very low IMO. If KSM doesn't go on trial in an article 3 court, with excellent lawyers, on court TV, then it is highly like an inside job being covered up.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-lance/triple-cross-the-book-the_b_35646.html
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IT'S AN EMPIRE, NOT A REPUBLIC!
09:27 PM on 09/27/2010
I'm not implying that K.S.M is "innocent", rather, I want to see him take down his co-conspirators in a legitimate Article 3 court, if there are any. Let's see the facts in the court and decide for ourselves whether he acted with elements of the US government or not.
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05:23 PM on 09/27/2010
Ahmadinejad could have just said more investigation of the circumstances leading up to the attacks would be appropriate. He could have said that without trying to blame Israel. Instead, he went back to his one-string guitar and started strumming away. Does he have anything to say which doesn't involve Israel?
05:17 PM on 09/27/2010
One last thing:


But let's back up and look at the 9/11 Commission in more detail. Preliminarily, President Bush and Vice-President Cheney took the rare step of personally requesting that congress limit all 9/11 investigation solely to "intelligence failures", so there has never been a congressional probe into any of the real issues involved.

The administration also opposed the creation of a 9/11 commission. Once it was forced, by pressure from widows of 9-11 victims, to allow a commission to be formed, the administration appointed as executive director an administration insider, whose area of expertise is the creation and maintenance of "public myths" thought to be true, even if not actually true, who was involved in pre-9/11 intelligence briefings, and who was one of the key architects of the "pre-emptive war" doctrine. This executive director, who controlled what the Commission did and did not analyze, then limited the scope of the Commission's inquiry so that the overwhelming majority of questions about 9/11 remained unasked (see this article and this article).

The administration then starved the commission of funds, providing a fraction of the funds used to investigate Monica Lewinsky, failed to provide crucial documents (and see this article also), refused to share much information with the Commission, refused to require high-level officials to testify under oath, and allowed Bush and Cheney to be questioned jointly.
05:20 PM on 09/27/2010
More importantly, the 9-11 Commission refused to examine virtually any evidence which contradicted the administration's official version of events. As stated by the State Department's Coordinator for Counterterrorism, who was the point man for the U.S. government's international counterterrorism policy in the first term of the Bush administration, "there were things the [9/11] commission[s] wanted to know about and things they didn't want to know about."

For example, the 9-11 Commission report fails to mention the CIA director's urgent warnings to top administration officials in July 2001 of an impending attack (indeed, the 9-11 Commission was briefed on these warnings, but denied they knew about them until confronted with contrary evidence). Moreover, numerous veteran national security experts were turned away, ignored, or censored by the 9/11 commission, even though they had information directly relevant to the commission's investigation. And the 9/11 Commission Report does not even mention the collapse of World Trade Center building 7 or any explosions in the buildings (the word "explosion" does not appear in the report). There are literally hundreds of other examples of entire lines of evidence which contradict the government's account which were ignored by the Commission.
04:01 PM on 09/27/2010
Can HuffPo put up a little box in the comments as "flag as ridiculous"?
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01:56 PM on 09/27/2010
Additionally, I find it interesting that people in here can pretty much levy any accusation against the current CIC they care to, including the most heinous accusations, but dare to insult the Shrub, a man responsible for over a million deaths in Iraq, and expect to have every comment you make deleted. That's telling me that there's a mod in here who loves the shrub and will silence you if you comment unfavorably or said mod automatically deletes everything a certain poster flags.

I don't believe in the practice of flagging comments myself. It makes it far too easy for people who lack the intellectual resources to respond to abuse the posting system and silence others that actually do possess the acumen to respond.
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01:45 PM on 09/27/2010
Now, to those who feel there was a conspiracy? Yes. There was. A conspiracy of silence. I knew that the 1st time I saw the footage of the shrub reading that literary tour de force about some goat to a classroom full of children. I saw 1) An expression indicating he felt personally betrayed. ("Salem Bin Laden was the shrub's old busn. partner and OBL's brother. OBL had visited the Bush ranch repeatedly throughout the 80s and 90s.) 2) a look that said "If I tell the nation the truth everyone will hate me and I'll get 1 term out of this." 3) another look that said "I'll just blame Saddam. That will distract everyone from the fact that I've been personally warned about this over 5 times in as many months."

In summation, it'd be wonderful to see some "truthers" come out with a concise critique of the administration responsible for this as opposed to piling on Barack Obama, the democrat that got these losers booted out of DC. Otherwise I might have to think said "truthers" were a bunch of teabagging tr0lls practicing agitprop. It can happen. Look at the "DIGG" incident.
09:23 AM on 09/28/2010
delusional .... and that is being charitable
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04:26 PM on 09/28/2010
Says chinalover, the "it" that claims that china is a 1 party democratic republic, spends all his time bashing Obama yet has nothing bad to say about George W Bush. All you can do is fan the flames of hatred. You add nothing productive to any discussion. You've never had a positive thing to say about any subject in here and latch onto any credulous belief about any ridiculous conspiracy theory than comes down the pike. You are truly delusional.

FWI... I know you're prevaricating about being a Korean war vet. You should feel ashamed of taking credit for something you've never done.
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01:34 PM on 09/27/2010
Israel is the enemy the West Bank occupation proves that.
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01:13 PM on 09/27/2010
http://www.npr.org/templates/dmg/dmg.php?prgCode=TAVIS&showDate=10-Sep-2004&segNum=4&NPRMediaPref=WM

A direct link to the recording. Betty Ong. Remember her name. A lot of people didn't which is sad, since she was a very brave woman who showed great composure under the circumstances.
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01:05 PM on 09/27/2010
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3910967

Recording of Betty Ong's(stewardess on flight 93) call to the FAA. She tried her hardest to avert disaster, only to be silenced by the hijackers and then posthumously silenced by people who claimed she didn't exist.
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Ergon
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09:54 AM on 09/27/2010
There were "inexplicable" translation difficulties during the Iranian president's speech that prevented most delegates from hearing him, the same as last years "inexplicable" translation difficulties.
People are soo incapable of debate, they'd rather suppress speech.
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10:12 AM on 09/27/2010
you consider Ahmadinejad's lunatic rants to be part of a " debate " ? ? ? ? Do you know what debate means ?
12:47 PM on 09/27/2010
I read his whole speech ... just where is the lunatic parts? Or are you just mouthing off?
09:37 AM on 09/27/2010
“The important thing is to never stop questioning.”
-- Albert Einstein

“The Commission avoids another embarrassing problem – explaining how WTC 7 could have collapsed, also virtually at free-fall speed – by simply not mentioning the collapse of this building.”
-- David Ray Griffin, The 9/11 Commission Report – Omissions and Distortions (Olive Branch Press, 2005), 28
09:31 AM on 09/27/2010
Somebody deleted my comments to mickmcc. I will not waste another minute on that poster, but whoever deleted these has abused his or her moderating powers.
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02:13 PM on 09/27/2010
Of interest...

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02:30 PM on 09/27/2010
And thank you for the heads up, 2question.
06:53 AM on 09/27/2010
Don't agree with you President Obama . . . think you are just trying to makes excuses for the delegates walking out like children.