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Mideast Peace Talks Hit Settlement Roadblock: Abbas Says Israel Must Choose

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ALI AKBAR DAREINI   09/26/10 12:00 AM ET   AP

UNITED NATIONS — Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said Saturday there will be no peace deal with Israel unless the Jewish state stops settlement construction in areas the Palestinians claim for their future state.

"Israel must choose between peace and the continuation of settlements," Abbas said in his address to the U.N. General Assembly's annual ministerial meeting.

Direct peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians stalled only three weeks after starting in Washington in early September over the impending end of a 10-month freeze on new Israeli settlement construction on land claimed by the Palestinians.

Abbas reaffirmed the Palestinian commitment to try to reach a peace deal.

"We have decided to enter into final status negotiations. We will continue to exert every effort to reach an agreement for Palestinian-Israeli peace within one year in accordance with resolutions of international legitimacy ... and the vision of the two-state solution," Abbas told ministers and diplomats.

But with a Sunday deadline looming for Israel to resume the contested building, the Palestinians are waiting for U.S. efforts to break the impasse. President Barack Obama has increasingly placed efforts to resolve the conflict at the center of his foreign policy, but both Israeli and Palestinian officials said Saturday a deal was far from certain.

State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said U.S. special Mideast peace envoy George Mitchell met with Abbas for about half an hour on Saturday.

"We remain engaged with both sides," he said.

Earlier, Crowley said, "We are doing everything we can to keep the parties in direct talks."

In his U.N. speech, Abbas said, "Our demands for the cessation of settlement activities, the lifting of the siege (of Gaza) and an end to all other illegal Israel policies and practices do not constitute arbitrary preconditions in the peace process."

These are past obligations that Israel is required to implement, he said, and Israel's implementation "will lead to the creation of the necessary environment for the success of the negotiations."

He said the Palestinians and the wider Middle East are continuously pushed into "the corner of violence and conflict" as a result of Israel's "mentality of expansion and domination."

The Palestinian president demanded an end to Israel's repeated flouting of U.N. resolutions, its destruction of the historical identity of Jerusalem, and its blockade of the Gaza Strip which he said has created massive suffering for the people living there and prevented reconstruction.

On the settlement dispute, some in Israel have proposed, for example, that limited building will resume but not the relatively unfettered construction that prevailed before the Israeli moratorium.

Palestinians say it is essential that Israel leave the restrictions on settlement construction in place.

Abbas has repeatedly warned that he will be forced to walk away from the direct negotiations if construction resumes.

The Palestinians claim all of the West Bank, home to 300,000 Jewish settlers, as part of a future state, and say that by expanding settlements, Israel is imposing facts on the ground that make it increasingly difficult to establish a viable country.

At the same time, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu faces heavy pressure within his pro-settler governing coalition to resume construction. Hardline elements in the coalition could try to bring down the government if Netanyahu extends the settlement slowdown.

Pro-settler activists hauled bulldozers, cement mixers and other construction equipment into the Revava settlement in the northern West Bank on Saturday. Danny Danon, a pro-settler lawmaker in Netanyahu's Likud Party, said activists would lay the cornerstone for a new neighborhood on Sunday, the last day of the slowdown, and planned additional construction Monday after the restrictions formally end.

In his U.N. address earlier this week, Obama called on Israel to extend the moratorium, saying it "has made a difference on the ground and improved the atmosphere for talks."

The Quartet of Mideast peacemakers – the U.S., U.N., European Union and Russia – made a similar plea to extend the moratorium.

"Restoring the credibility of the peace process requires compelling the government of Israel to comply with its obligations and commitments," Abbas said, "particularly to cease all settlement activities in the occupied Palestinian territory, especially in and around East Jerusalem, as well as the dismantling of the annexation apartheid wall."

The Palestinians claim East Jerusalem as the capital of a future state. They also object to the separation barrier built by Israelis between the West Bank and Israel to prevent deadly suicide bombings. Some parts of the barrier cuts into Palestinian territory, leaving almost 10 percent of the West Bank on the Israeli side.

The Palestinians themselves are bitterly divided between Abbas' Fatah movement, which governs the West Bank, and the Hamas rulers of Gaza, a coastal strip seized by the Islamic militant group three years ago. Hamas doesn't recognize Israel and has denounced the U.S.-backed peace talks as illegitimate.

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Associated Press Writer Matthew Lee contributed to this report from Washington.

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12:57 PM on 09/27/2010
DIVEST FROM ISRAEL.....
10:36 AM on 09/27/2010
Frankly Israel should not build now. Long term they need to realize that making Abbas and the West Bank viable. With a positive outlook the more moderate Fatah will raise the standard of living for the West bank.
Hamas and Gaza will see a movement of population to the west bank if Israel is smart enough to allow it. If the people chose Fatah because they provide for better living conditions Hamas losses. The US wins Israel wins. Even the Palestinian people would win for once. Since the 1st war the Palestinian have followed the tribal leaders. Now they have a thinker and diplomat and the best chance in 60 years to regain better lives for it's people.
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12:27 PM on 09/27/2010
Your heart's in the right place, but "tribal leaders"? OK, if you don't have a nation then I guess you're a tribe.
09:17 AM on 09/27/2010
Palestine /israel should be one state with equal right for Arabs and Jews alike and the violence will stop because everyone will have some human rights and a stake in the new country.
12:42 AM on 09/27/2010
As long as the U.S. funded terrorist state of Israel exists, there will never be peace in the Middle East. Dream. On.
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Json
Cynical dreamer, sarcastic idealist...
09:05 AM on 09/27/2010
If only the middle east was controlled by Hamas, hezbollah, al qaeda and the taliban. Then all would be peaceful...
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lbsaltzman
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10:44 AM on 09/27/2010
But for this conflict, and U.S. meddling many of the organizations that you mention might not even exist. The activities of the U.S. and Israel function like campaigns for extremist groups and play into the hands of those groups.
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blaster8
12:08 AM on 09/27/2010
I believe it was Rabin who said you don't make peace with your friends when told why he would enter negotiations without preconditions. So why is it that when the shoe is now on the other foot, so many people here are encouraging Abbas to leave the negotiations if he doesn't get his precondition met?
You can cut through the hypocrisy here with a knife!
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01:14 AM on 09/27/2010
The cessation of illegal settlement activities does not constitute an arbitrary precondition in the peace process.
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StCuthbert
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10:28 AM on 09/27/2010
If the Palestinians want Israel to talk to them while Israeli civilians are being shot and Palestinian children are taught to hate Jews, the Palestinians can talk to Israel while houses are being built.
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lbsaltzman
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10:47 AM on 09/27/2010
The settlement building must stop. If the settlement expansion doesn't stop then Israel will talk the Palestinians to death, while they continue the ethnic cleansing and land theft. Israel will have incentive to make peace as long as they think they can rampage in occupied Palestine at will.
10:15 PM on 09/27/2010
No, YOU could cut through 'em with a knife, but only because that's the way you'd like to handle anything that doesn't boost Israel's stock. Right?
11:04 PM on 09/26/2010
I suggest that Abbas does not flinch and stay put on his position no matter how large the enticements are from the US. Clinton & Co should have taken care of that obstacle way ahead of the storm. They knew that this was coming and obviously planned to pressure Abbas....not the other party irrespective of Obama and her public statements.
10:57 PM on 09/26/2010
What was Abbas thinking? If he did not have solid behind-the-door guarantees that the settlement construction will be freeze if the join direct negotiations, why did he joined those negotiations? Did he really believe that he was going to reach an agreement in a couple of weeks? He gave up on an important pre-condition (freezing construction) without anything to show for it. And now, if he walks away from the negotiations, he is going to be blamed for the negotiation failures. Who advised this guy? He and his team jumps from one blunder into another. Time for him to step aside and give other folks their chance.
11:07 PM on 09/26/2010
he can still walk away holding his head high saying that he had clearly indicated that there would not be any peace without a freeze of settlements in the west bank.
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TruthFinderToo
Not all bank owners are evil!
12:23 AM on 09/27/2010
Yes, but the US media will still blame him and not the Israelis
10:15 PM on 09/26/2010
Does anyone honestly believe Israel is really interested in a peace settlement. The only settlement they are interested in is their own in the West Bank.
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Jon Jony
12:28 AM on 09/27/2010
So tell me what Hamas is interested in? How about the Arab dictators like Assad ... or Iran...?
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lbsaltzman
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11:10 AM on 09/27/2010
Hamas is interested in freeing their people and throwing the occupiers out of occupied Palestine. They also want the siege of Gaza to end. We not approve of all their tactics, but the goals are reasonable and right.
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Json
Cynical dreamer, sarcastic idealist...
09:07 AM on 09/27/2010
Yes I really do. Do you honestly believe that Israel wants to perpetuate this conflict and have millions of angry palestinians living on their doorstep for eternity?
12:50 AM on 09/28/2010
No I don't I think they want this conflict to continue they just wish the Palestinians would disappear. If not by themselves then with Israels help.
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Fein
And this too shall pass.
06:28 PM on 10/21/2010
Of course not, that's why they're confiscating all the land that might constitute a future 'doorstep.'
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10:13 PM on 09/26/2010
Abbas should walk away from this charade.
09:13 PM on 09/26/2010
I believe a Turkish peace keeping force is the only solution to this problem. This will be good for both Palestinians and Israelis alike.
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ligligl
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07:45 PM on 09/26/2010
Somehow the shoe has been placed on the other foot. The Palestinians demand a right of return, the tearing down of the wall and the opening of the borders. The 'Peace Talks' are fatally flowed from the beginning. The Palestinians don't even have their own house in order, and there is no agreement between Fatah and Hamas while Hamas engages in hostilities to sabotage the talks. They refuse to acknowledge Israel as a legitimate state never mind a Jewish state. Their avowed intent is to 'drive the Jews' into the sea' while whining about their hardships as they lob rockets into Israel. It is only the walls that keep the suicide bombers out and Israelis safe while their bravest bear the brunt of Palestinian ire outside the walls as they transform the desert into a modern city.

As a Jew, I see it as almost Biblical in nature that there is more and more Jewish encroachment so long as the Palestinians refuse a peace settlement. Pretty soon all the Palestinians will be displaced by settlements that occupy the land while the Palestinians remain obstinate and demand that the world listen to the Palestinian complaints while concurrently demanding that the world ignore the avowed intent of the Palestinians.
Once before we asked the world for help in the face of a holocaust and the world turned their backs on us.

NEVER AGAIN!
Thelonius
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08:45 PM on 09/26/2010
Really? Well, this may come as a shock to you, but most of the world and an increasing number of Americans know it is the Palestinians who are the occupied, that Israel is their occupier; that the Palestinians are the dispossessed, that Israel is an expansionist state; that Palestinians are the oppressed, that Israel is their oppressor; that Palestinians have hard-won international humanitarian law on their side, that Israel is a well documented serial violator of hard-won international humanitarian law.
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ligligl
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09:15 PM on 09/26/2010
NEVER AGAIN!
09:19 PM on 09/26/2010
My friend, the world didn't turn their backs on you, they actually uprooted a people, and gave you their land. Matter of fact, you, in turn, inflicted another holocaust, just to revenge your own.
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TheLonelyGod
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09:55 PM on 09/26/2010
It's interesting how Jordan killed more Palestinians in one month than Israel has killed ever, yet it is Israel who is accused of "inflicting another holocaust."

I guess hate trumps facts around here.
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Jon Jony
12:29 AM on 09/27/2010
Do you always use the word Holocaust so loosely?
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lainey
Always remember Troy Davis.
07:04 PM on 09/26/2010
I know that we like to reduce every issue to the least common denominator and the one that is easy to literally see (it happens all the time with teachers being the problem with education, the President should have our economy fixed by now, pharma companies the villians for our health care problems, etc.), but this is far more complicated than settlements. This type of thinking always leads us to the same conclusion because the basis is too simplistic. Anyone who has ever been to Palestine or Israel knows that the issue is far more about a fundamental mistrust and dislike for one another that won't so easily dissipate and extreme religious people on both sides that fuel such feelings. It is just that no one wants to be honest. Furthermore, East Jerusalem is not in play, and there has been no one demanding that the Palestinians recognize the Jewish state of Israel. If we continue to think in these sophomoric terms and aren't balanced in our negotiations, it will never end. And for those that think we should just stay out of it, please do remember that was Bush's premise as well.
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08:27 PM on 09/26/2010
The negotiations are not intended to make each party like the other -- or even trust the other. They are intended to allow both to stop wasting resources on killing each other and get on with the hard work of just making a living.

What prevents Palestinians from getting on with their lives is that they are not allowed to have a life. They are threatened at every turn. Property loss is an everyday occurrence. Arbitrary arrest is commonplace and 1.5 million of them are denied access to the rest of the world.

What prevents Israelis from getting on with their lives is almost nothing. They don't need peace with their puny Palestinian neighbors because they sit at the table of the earth's super-power. If Palestinians ever regain their status as ordinary humans it will be because the US decides to let them have it.
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lainey
Always remember Troy Davis.
11:32 PM on 09/26/2010
Your remarks bode my point precisely. By caring little for the Israeli's you show an unsound premise and one that perpetuates the cycle of violence. Anyone completely on the other side does the same thing. Once we believe that peace is equally important and profound to both people, we can begin to see a change. Once we can help facilitate the idea that they should begin to value humanity in and of itself, there will be progress. Until then, even from afar, and without a hand in the peace process, we add to the misery.
06:39 PM on 09/26/2010
Does this mean that Abbas and the Palestinians must choose between peace and killing Israelis?
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JuniperSunshine
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07:05 PM on 09/26/2010
Not likely. See, they plan to keep attacking Israel, no matter what, since they are acting on Mohammed's deathbed orders to "cleanse" the entire Middle East of non-Muslims. They have repeatedly stated that they do not believe Israel should exist at all, and that they plan to keep "expressing themselves" on this point by murdering civilians. Why this motive should be sympathized with is beyond me.
07:16 PM on 09/26/2010
You are filled with hate and racism! I pity that child!
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lbsaltzman
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07:33 PM on 09/26/2010
It is amazing how Israel launches attacks with a modern army, settlers conduct pogroms and other crimes are committed by Israel. All this while many supporters of Israel try to act like Israel is the victim. Israel is only the victim of its' own aggression.
07:08 PM on 09/26/2010
Leading fundamentalist rabbis gather in Israel to defend the publication of a book, Torat Ha'Melech, that attempted to provide halakhic justification for the killing of non-Jews, including innocent children and families. The gathering exposed not only the ferocious racism of a swath of Israel's pro-settlement rabbinate, but the powerlessness of the government to stop them

http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2010/09/01/how-to-kill-goyim-and-influence-people-israeli-rabbis-defend-books-shocking-religious-defense-of-killing-non-jews-with-video/
batguano
As Long As Grass Grow, Wind Blow & The Sky Is Blue
06:27 PM on 09/26/2010
"The debate over Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories is often framed in terms of whether they should be "frozen" or allowed to grow "naturally." But that is akin to asking whether a thief should be allowed merely to keep his ill-gotten gains or steal some more. It misses the most fundamental point: Under international law, all settlements on occupied territory are unlawful."

The more Israel brutalizes and kills Palestinians, Lebanese and others in support of their mythology, the more they make a mockery of international law and peace "negotiations", the more the world will despise them and hold them in contempt, and the more the seeds of their own destruction will be sown. One cannot brutalize and dehumanize others through racism or the belief in ones own "chosen" status, without dehumanizing themselves - already Jews who speak-out against the extremist madness and contempt for the lives of others are targeted by extremist Israelis - collapse cannot be far behind. The world should hope the arrogant madness of Israeli extremist terrorism will not take the rest of us with them.

http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/06/28/israels-settlements-are-shaky-ground

http://www.representativepress.org/IsraelViolatesResolution.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_452
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JuniperSunshine
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07:10 PM on 09/26/2010
Yes, and under international law, killing civilians, beheading kidnap victims, torturing women and children, and a host of other things are no-nos. I assume you also are fighting for a "right of return" for all the Jews expelled by force from Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, and all those other countries who are being oppressed by the terrible racism of the people they continually dehumanize. If racism so offends you, I'm sure you are right on the front lines protesting when yet another Iranian newspaper prints the anti-Semitic joke of the day, right?
07:25 PM on 09/26/2010
I am protesting the inhumane practices of Israel as an apartheid state that discriminates between citizens based on religion and ethnicity and even between Jews based on them being Ashkenazi or Sephardi.

Even black Jews in Israel (from the fictitious "lost tribe") are discriminated against by other Jews based on the color of their skin. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3480010,00.html

The Palestinians have it worse of all!
06:26 PM on 09/26/2010
Israel (the Zionists) have never and will never choose anything but that which will forever cause consternation. They have no interest in peace at all ... except a "piece of this and a piece of that", etc. and as long as they have the U. S. to protect them ... why should they? This has been going on for thousands of years.
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lainey
Always remember Troy Davis.
07:07 PM on 09/26/2010
Not all of Israeli's are Zionists. Painting with broad strokes leaves to missing big parts of the big picture. "Piece of this and a piece of that" was actually stated by Bill Mahr as it relates to the religion of Islam. It is important to put things in the proper context.
07:36 PM on 09/26/2010
I agree. Our debates here will be much more productive if we do not generalize.
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BreezyinVA
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10:41 PM on 09/26/2010
He specifically said the Zionists. He delineated who in Israel.