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Witness Describes 'Hell' During Fatal Shooting Rampage At 'Typical Fraternity Party'

First Posted: 09/27/10 12:20 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:50 PM ET

Seton Hall Shooting
All vehicles trying to enter Seton Hall University campus tonight were stopped at the security gate after five students were shot, one of whom has died, at an off campus party today, Saturday Sept. 25, 2010 in East Orange, NJ. (AP Photo/Joe Epstein)

EAST ORANGE, N.J. (Associated Press) — A Seton Hall University student who attended an off-campus house party at which five people were shot said the gunman stood on her back as she lay on the floor and didn't appear to be targeting anyone during the chaos she described as "hell."

"He was just shooting he had no intended target," said a text message from the woman, whose friend was the only person killed.

The woman spoke Sunday by BlackBerry instant messenger on condition of anonymity because she feared for her safety while the shooter remained at large. She said she was too upset to talk over the phone.

She described the Friday night party, which lasted into early Saturday, as a "typical fraternity party" with at least 100 people at the privately owned row house.

Students said the shooter was kicked out of the party when he refused to pay the cover charge.

The woman said she heard a fight erupt before the man was thrown out. Seconds later, she said, he returned with a handgun and started shooting as chaos erupted.

"Everyone was scrambling n stampeding. People were jumping out the two windows n all I cud smell was smoke n blood," the woman wrote. "The next thing I knew I opened my eyes n saw hell..blood n just panic."

The woman said was on the floor when the gunman stepped on her back and shot her friend Jessica Moore, a 19-year-old honors student majoring in psychology. Moore, who was from Disputanta, Va., died later at a hospital.

Authorities had not released the names of the four wounded people, whose injuries weren't considered life-threatening.

Two of the injured are 19-year-old women who go to Seton Hall, and one is a 25-year-old man who attends the New Jersey Institute of Technology. The other is a 20-year-old man from New York who is not a student.

East Orange police were following several leads but had not identified a suspect, spokesman Andrew Di Elmo said.

On Sunday, police had set up an electronic sign, the kind usually used to tell drivers of detours, to ask for help solving the house party shooting, which occurred just after midnight. The message advertised a $10,000 reward for information leading to an arrest.

The party was primarily for students at Seton Hall, a well-regarded Roman Catholic university with a gated campus in South Orange, about 15 miles from New York City. There are no sanctioned fraternities at Seton Hall and no fraternity houses.

The university, with its collection of red brick buildings tucked behind a wrought-iron fence, stands in stark contrast to the gritty neighborhood where the party was held a mile away. Just a block from the shooting site, the remains of a memorial for another recent shooting victim could still be seen.

There were at least five shootings in the area this summer, said Rabu Anderson, who owns a clothing store there.

"Some of it is gang violence, some of it is just plain ignorance," Anderson said.

East Orange resident Leon Drinks, who lives four doors down from the house where the party shooting occurred, said the violence has become much worse in the past couple of years. He said just after midnight he heard six shots – not an uncommon sound on South Clinton Street.

"I kinda laid low for a minute, then I heard the stampede of people on this side of the street and that side of the street," said Drinks, 54. "People were running in driveways and alleyways trying to get out of the mess."

Seton Hall, which has 10,000 students, knows about the dangers in some of the neighborhoods nearby and advises students not to leave campus alone.

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03:50 PM on 09/28/2010
Why are there postings in white text on all these pages?!?!?!
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LetMeUnderstandThis
02:18 PM on 09/28/2010
And the NRA supports their right to bear arms!
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RevJimIII
Grin and Barret...
12:14 AM on 09/29/2010
The NRA, from what I understand, supports the rights of all law abiding citizens.
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cgeorgan
Proud American-Canadian Libertarian
01:47 PM on 09/28/2010
Want to read about "Hell"?  Read Pvt. Eugene Sledge's account of the 5th Marine Division's fight against the Japanese on Wana Ridge in Okinawa.
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RevJimIII
Grin and Barret...
12:17 AM on 09/29/2010
Excellent reference, I would add Marcus Luttrell as a more modern example of surviving hell.
01:57 AM on 09/28/2010
This article should clear people up: http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/09/police_release_sketch_of_shoot.html
09:46 PM on 09/27/2010
So...no one saw what this person even looked like? This is a weirdly written story.
08:35 PM on 09/27/2010
New Jersey has the second strictest firearm laws in the nation following CA.

Telling, isn't it?
12:40 AM on 09/28/2010
It certainly is. Firearms laws need to be tightened even further.
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RevJimIII
Grin and Barret...
01:46 AM on 09/28/2010
Why? To further restrict a law abiding person from engaging in defensive behavior? We all know criminals will not honor tightened laws any more than they do now. Your assertion is without merit.
07:10 AM on 09/28/2010
Like Chicago? W/ 5x the murder rate of the rest of the state?
03:55 AM on 09/28/2010
I would hazard a guess that the gun in this case was not from NJ, it was from another state on the East Coast that has much more liberal gun laws. Virginia has long been the source of cheap plentiful unregistered guns for many cities in the North East.

If it were possible to restrict illegal interstate commerce in guns, then each state could make laws that were actually enforceable. Unfortunately, it is impossible to make the more restrictive states' laws have any meaning without the cooperation of the less restrictive states. And those states have shown very little willingness to be neighborly in that way.
07:11 AM on 09/28/2010
Right out of a gun control group press release.
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julbar
07:25 PM on 09/27/2010
I recall there was a devastating fire at Seton Hall just several years back. How awful- they have been through a lot.
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elizlucinda
a mind is a terrible thing to waste
03:38 PM on 09/27/2010
Here's a bit of a sobering statistic in this stats canada report

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2008002/article/10518-eng.htm

Overall homicide rates are highest in the United States, followed by Canada, Australia, and England and Wales. While non-firearm homicide rates are similar between the four countries, the rates of firearm-related homicides are quite different (Chart 4). In 2006, Canada's firearm-related homicide rate (0.58) was nearly six times lower than the United States.
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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and retired military combat vet
08:43 PM on 09/27/2010
Again, your non-firearm homicide rate is lower as well, meaning your base rate is lower than ours. This indicates that your firearm laws have nothing to do with your lower rate of firearm homicides. Further supporting my assertion is that there is no evidence that your firearm homicide rate was really affected by the passage of your country's firearm laws -- the rates before and after the passage of your laws show no significant improvement.
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elizlucinda
a mind is a terrible thing to waste
09:36 PM on 09/27/2010
OdinsEye. Read the entire report and stop cherrypicking statistics.

Here's another report you can also read from Statisitcs Canada which is a non partisan source:

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/studies-etudes/82-003/archive/2005/8042-eng.pdf.....The first chart disputes your assertion that the homicide rate was not affected. All deaths from firearms were effected by gun control. They declined

you should also note the chart on page 40 comparing the U.S. and Canada. You will note the risk of death from a firearms related death is strikingly lower in Canada in 2002.
03:17 PM on 09/27/2010
This article has a few problems with it and it contributes to the problem.

First the headline screams that it was at Seton Hall. Then you find out that it wasn't. It was in a seedy part of NJ.

Second, the story is written to make it sound like a typical frat party. However when you do a search and find the local reports, it wasn't. The shooters description at those sources point to a "street thug" who tried to crash the party.

Which leads many to say "OH, it's those terrible guns!" Well the solution is to target the criminal element that is doing the vast majority of these crimes. However, as the article proves, we want to shift blame. Some are so afraid of upsetting a particular demographic that they will do anything to deflect from that fact. The facts are that 1. 94.4% of gun murders are committed by gang members. 2. Minorities have a LARGE disproportion of violence.

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/htius.pdf

So instead of focusing on the 5% that occur, how about focusing on the almost 95% of cases? I believe it is because the prisons are full. Tie that in with the above mentioned and that's why we get the deflection.

It's the number 1 reason why we have such a problem in this country. Many areas of the U.S. are like some third world country. 
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Sinead Murtagh
04:42 PM on 09/27/2010
So enlighten us... Your solution is what? What exactly do you mean by proposing "targetting" the "criminal element".

I am particularly interested when you go one to identify this "demographic" as you put it as being "minorities".

So go on, tell us what you really think... just what "solution" are you angling for?

Please be precise and detailed.
04:59 PM on 09/27/2010
It is what it is. You can watch the History channels series on gangs to learn the demographics. Facts are facts.

FBI: Burgeoning gangs behind up to 80% of U.S. crime

The report says about 900,000 gang members live "within local communities across the country," and about 147,000 are in U.S. prisons or jails.
One group that continues to spread despite law enforcement efforts is the violent Salvadoran gang known as MS-13.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-01-29-ms13_N.htm

The solution I'm "angling" for is to get rid of this problem. If we spent a little more energy on solving this HUGE problem instead of worrying about what tools they are using we could stop the problem.


 
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-01-29-ms13_N.htm
02:43 PM on 09/27/2010
I can understand cops not releasing names of the victims but can't understand why anyone would offer a $10K reward without giving a description of the shooter.
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LonosCurse
Some may never live, but the crazy never die
02:15 PM on 09/27/2010
Deadly Shooting at Seton Hall University (Give or Take a Mile)
02:12 PM on 09/27/2010
Good god...now I have to put up with txtsp33k being quoted in news' stories???!?

I guess I shouldn't be surprised. So, I will not be. Utterly dismayed...still working on that.
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Matt Sewell
12:48 PM on 09/27/2010
Since there are no fraternities at Seton Hall how was this a "typical fraternity party"? I've been to hundreds of fraternity parties and typically there is no gun violence.
03:17 PM on 09/28/2010
because there are fraternities at Seton Hall ...This one happened to be a Sigma House, hence the reason mostly SHU students were there.
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WeCanDoMore
Enjoying a fact based reality.
12:38 PM on 09/27/2010
so sad.
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oldgrendel
tired old computer guy
12:26 PM on 09/27/2010
In my day the only thing you had to worry about at college parties was getting roach burns on your favorite denim shirt. Peace, love, marijuana!!! The good old days.
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MikeDu
Both salubrious and lugubrious concurrently.
07:35 PM on 09/27/2010
Funny, I recall a college girlfriend's brother getting murdered over a drug deal back in the "good old days". Whenever you're recalling (10, 20, or 30 years ago) homicides in each of those decades were considerably higher than they are now. You probably didn't notice because you were considerably higher too.