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Oil Commission Baffled By Lowball Estimates; Suspects They Slowed Response

First Posted: 09/27/10 05:18 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:50 PM ET

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National Incident Commander Thad Allen told a presidential commission investigating the BP oil spill on Monday that wildly understated federal estimates of the oil flow "weren't consequential in any of the decision-making I did."

But the co-chairs of the Oil Spill Commission, which is charged with assessing what lessons should be learned from the disaster in the Gulf, weren't buying it.

"It's not entirely clear to me how it could be that flow rate would not affect the response," co-chair and former EPA administrator William K. Reilly said at a mid-day press conference.

"It's a little bit like Custer," chimed in co-chair and former senator Bob Graham. "He underestimated the number of Indians on the other side of the hill and he paid the ultimate price for it."

Indeed, despite administration protestations to the contrary, the federal response when it came to mobilizing skimmers and testing for oil beneath the water's surface -- not to mention getting the well shut -- has been found wanting.

Why the Obama administration chronically lowballed estimates of how much BP oil was spewing into the Gulf of Mexico remains a mystery, however, after a top NOAA official easily sidestepped the commissioners' tepid questioning.

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration senior scientist Bill Lehr repeatedly testified that estimating the flow of the spill was a difficult and challenging undertaking.

But he provided no new insights into why, despite much higher estimates by independent scientists, NOAA stuck to BP's estimate of 5,000 barrels of oil per day for five weeks, then slowly increased its estimate, in fits and starts, until finally concluding after the well was capped that the real flow had topped out at a staggering 62,000 barrels per day.

As one of Lehr's fellow panelists, Ian MacDonald, put it: "5,000 barrels was not in the right ballpark, for whatever reason." MacDonald, a Florida State University oceanographer and one of the independent scientists who questioned the federal estimates early on, further noted that "It took a long time to catch up to reality."

Meanwhile, contrary to White House assertions that "the vast majority of the oil is gone," MacDonald warned that more than 50 percent of the oil remains in the Gulf of Mexico in the form of "highly durable material" that is now buried along the coast and on the sea floor.

Colleagues have found signs "that the oil sank from view so it was no longer clearly visible, but formed layers that persist to this day," MacDonald said. One problem with that: "Any storm event tends to resuspend them."

MacDonald also put forward a new possible explanation for why BP's flow estimates were so far off (though not for why the government paid them any heed).

MacDonald said he noticed over the weekend that tables in BP's laughably inadequate regional oil spill response plan include oil thickness estimates as much as 100 times smaller than NOAA guidelines. So using satellite photographs of the slick -- and BP's tables -- to calculate the amount of oil spilled would result in a dramatic understatement.

"A pressing question," MacDonald wrote in his prepared statement, "would be why the Unified Command authorities apparently relied on BP's internal, and evidently erroneous standards instead of using NOAA's guideline that was formulated on the basis of international agreed upon standards."

Graham and Reilly both acknowledged that they still don't understand why government officials were so wrong, and for so long. Graham generally raised the issue of "deference to the industry." Reilly recalled a scribble on a NOAA white board during the early days of the spill indicating that officials immediately realized the leak could be much bigger.

"One of the real, significant sources of public distrust and discontent about the response was the constantly changing numbers about the spill," Reilly told Lehr, who was also point man on the overly rosy late-August "oil budget" report that administration officials then misleadingly cited in a PR campaign to put the spill behind them.

"It was a challenge," Lehr said. "You always tend to estimate conservatively when you're the government."

Why not consider the worst case, instead of the best case, Reilly asked.

"It was a very difficult, challenging process," Lehr replied.

"Having learned from this, I assume next time we'll do better?" Reilly asked.

"I hope so," Lehr responded, unconvincingly.


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Dan Froomkin is senior Washington correspondent for the Huffington Post. You can send him an e-mail, bookmark his page; subscribe to his RSS feed, follow him on Twitter, friend him on Facebook, and/or become a fan and get e-mail alerts when he writes.

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whitebeach
Hey, buddy, can you spare a micro-bio?
11:14 AM on 09/28/2010
The Custer analogy, like so much political propaganda, is catchy but to anyone who looks a little more closely, totally false, implying that somehow the Coast Guard and other responders were wiped out by the spill because the first estimates of its volume were too low.

The analogy would only be fitting if we could rearrange history as follows: Custer and his troops encountered a band of Indians near the Little Bighorn. He quickly sent for reinforcements, who arrived in good time. Battle was joined. Custer gradually realized that there were many more Indians than he had first thought, but he was daily receiving more reinforcements from all over the territory and then from all over the United States. The fighting raged for three months, after which Chief Sitting Bull was killed. The soldiers continued mopping up in the face of decreasing resistance. Approximately half the opposing force was killed. The rest, many of them wounded, left the field of battle and hid in the woods and hills, where they remained not as a war party but as a nuisance to be dealt with over the months to follow.

There, Senator. FTFY.
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OliverTwist
Contrarian advocate for truth and justice
10:02 AM on 09/28/2010
President Obama outsourced the government handling of the banking collapse to the bankers.

President Obama outsourced the government handling of the oil spill to BP.

President Obama outsourced the formulation of the health care reform to the pharmaceutical and insurance companies.

President Obama outsourced handling of the prosecution of war crimes to the war criminals.

And so on.

Too bad.
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CanisLatrans
Progressive/2nd Amendment Jewish Iraq war vet.
10:42 AM on 09/28/2010
And the REAL comedy: the Teabaggers say all of it was "big government".
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OliverTwist
Contrarian advocate for truth and justice
01:40 PM on 09/28/2010
The T bag clowns live in a fantasy world unconnected from history and science and morality and all that language based stuff. It's a world of primal negative emotions.

Screwtape would probably be pleased with them.
09:56 AM on 09/28/2010
Well, they were definitely screwed by the Bush Administration and I'm not sure how much the president could have done with oil gushing everywhere! No one seem to know what to do, but again, blame the president.
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BassguyGG
Former Moderate driven Left by eight years of Bush
09:46 AM on 09/28/2010
These poor people on the Gulf Coast are soooooooo screwed.
08:19 AM on 09/28/2010
In “CRAZY HORSE AND CUSTER” by Stephen Ambrose. The author develops a case that Custer entered the engagement at Little Big Horn against orders to wait for more troops. The reason he rushed was that there was a Democrat party convention to nominate a Presidential candidate. The mood of the country leaned towards military heroes as President.
Custers wife Elizabeth his ambitious cheerleader was politicking at the convention for George to be the party nomination. The Custer plan was a monumental victory and hero status in time for the Convention which was June 27- 29. General George A. Custer and 265 men of the Seventh Cavalry are killed in a battle with Sitting Bull's Sioux Indians at Little Big Horn.
Perhaps this is what Thad Allen was referring to.
08:28 AM on 09/28/2010
Thank you for this bit of history
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AbeMartin
The best person fer a job is never a candidate
08:02 AM on 09/28/2010
Why in the world are the commissioners baffled?  It is obvious that the Administration was hopeful that the blow-out of Deepwater Horizon could be contained before the true extent of the disaster was known. So, they permitted BP to gloss over their mess with a web of outright  lies, going so far to physically prevent legitimate researchers and investigative reporters access to the water in proximity to the wellhead, the beaches being coated with tar balls and the tidal wetlands,, even though they knew from the outset the amount of oil being pushed from the pipe. Their engineers routinely monitor the pressure at the wellhead and the flow of crude coming from the oil reservoir over time.  So they knew the amount of oil being geyser'ed into the Gulf was exponentially greater than what they continued to claim. The strategy developed by Ken Salazar’s oil industry enablers at the Department of Interior was to defend the veracity of low-ball the estimates to limit Blackwater's potential liability, all the while pretending to be “protecting” the Gulf and its residents and wildlife.
 
This is just as disgusting and immoral a scenario as the Department of Justice trying and convicting terrorists or mass murderers and then letting the convicts dictate their punishment, whether or not they should be incarcerated and where.  The White House Flacks-In-Chief from former EPA administrator Carol Brawner who never did answer questions posted about the crisis' chain of command, the always compromised  extraction industry p*mp  Ken Salazar and former Coast Guard Commandant Thad Allen, who mysteriously transitioned from the highly competent military leadership he demonstrated during Hurricanes Katrina and Rita  to a mid-level Homeland Security lackey colluding with the murderous Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organization--BP, Trnansocean, Fitsui, and Halliburton—the CEO’s, Board members and Chief Engineers  of which bear some degree of culpability but have not yet, six months after this mess began, been indicted.
joefoss
They'll never take my panache!
07:46 AM on 09/28/2010
Au contraire:
It's NOT a mystery why the government aided & abetted the oil industry's "chronic lowballing" of the oil spill: the federal environmental regulations that apply in such cases set the penalities company's must pay based on the amount of oil "spilled"--lowballing oil spill estimates means lower (as in millions of dollars) fines for the perpetrators.
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emrogers
What could possibly go wrong?
08:17 AM on 09/28/2010
If Obama was protecting them why did he demand $20B in restitution funding? You're argument doesn't hold water, so to speak.
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Osmona
Its GREAT to be alive and SANE.
09:23 AM on 09/28/2010
Hey, its just another "Blame it on Obama" mission. The President could have "sucked" the oil out with a straw and they would FIND a way to condemn him. Sad....
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
04:25 PM on 09/29/2010
There is no $20 billion restitution funding.

There's no contract, BP just put up $3 billion, and nothing is securitized.

BP is trying to blackmail the government, too, by saying that unless it's allowed to continue risky, dangerous drilling operations in sensitive deep waters, it won't pay anything.
whitebeach
Hey, buddy, can you spare a micro-bio?
11:25 AM on 09/28/2010
Then why did NOAA keep revising its estimates upward, and finally, after some actual measurements were possible with the temporary cap, settle on an estimate ten or twelve times larger than the original?

Logic can be your friend, joe, if you'll only let it.
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wikwox
So there I was, playing the piano....
07:23 AM on 09/28/2010
And it's one last shot for "Obamas Katrina"!!! Yay! Say it ten more times and get a free Rush Limbaugh bumper sticker.
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Osmona
Its GREAT to be alive and SANE.
09:23 AM on 09/28/2010
EXACTLY!!!.

Thank you.

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Imagevision
06:53 AM on 09/28/2010
BP is spending more on their commercial messages stating they will be there until the oil spill damage has been... resolved then they have paid out in claims helping the people they caused to lose their business and livelihoods and Obama seems to be seconding the motion?
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Truthb4u
Return to reality.
07:00 AM on 09/28/2010
Better than apologizing like Republican Senator Burton did and kissing BP hand. BP should stay there and help the People of the Gulf area as long as it takes.
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Truthb4u
Return to reality.
07:03 AM on 09/28/2010
Correction: Rep. Joe Barton, sorry.
08:29 AM on 09/28/2010
Have they spent more on cleanup than they donated to Obama campaign?
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Osmona
Its GREAT to be alive and SANE.
09:25 AM on 09/28/2010
Since you're so interested why not look it up. There are ways to find out that information. Come back and tell us what you discover. CYA
01:48 PM on 09/28/2010
Not as much as they donated to McCain and Failin's
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Imagevision
06:48 AM on 09/28/2010
The White House, and the people/scientists it appointed to oversee the stopping, and the clean-up asked; "why they were still reporting finding more oil hitting beaches".Whether it be Bush or Obama, oil (big business) rules.
Any part of that you don't get?
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emrogers
What could possibly go wrong?
06:44 AM on 09/28/2010
The repubs want the Federal Gov't OUT OF PRIVATE BUSINESS unless they want them IN PRIVATE BUSINESS.
06:05 AM on 09/28/2010
National Incident Commander? Who makes up these titles?
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didereaux
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is my Lord & Saviour!
04:28 AM on 09/28/2010
Now with time having provided a buffer to look at the chronology, and the actions and re-actions, two things stand above all others: The first is that the oil industry had corrupted the government agency in charge of over-sight. Secondly, the Whitehouse, and the people it appointed to oversee the stopping, and the clean-up were inept, incompetent and often times ignorant of the things they were told to look at and do.

On the first point, this nation has reached a point of corporate corruption from which there is no return. That is fact, and any sober, rational expert on such things will say the same thing. You can moderate it, you can even roll some of it back, but you will not be able to make a significant dent in it.

As to the second point: It is just another huge billboard reminding us that the lesser of two evils in 2008 wasn't a good choice either.
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03:52 AM on 09/28/2010
Can you say "Bush'ed".
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smahl
I miss the days of Paul Wellstone.
07:54 AM on 09/28/2010
Why? it was a bama'd thing.
Both parties are for big oil look at how much they helped pay for O's campain
01:49 PM on 09/28/2010
Obama didn't illegally invade another country just for oil, Shrub did
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08:04 PM on 09/28/2010
Kinda of meant that the name and face has changed, but really nothing else has changed, still the same people on the job. Or should I say not on the job.
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viko
Aim high, allow for the wind, land on target.
02:57 AM on 09/28/2010
Drill baby drill.Drill baby drill. Where is that slogan gone.
They had a better slogan in the War on Drugs.
"Say no to drugs." The Reagans helped, now look.
The new slogan is .
" Free beer for the alcohaulics and needles too".
This economy is perfectly sound .
Obama is the one that should reverse phychology and say "no" to everything..
As Bob Dylan puts it.
There's a stillness in the wind before the hurricane begins.
The hour thet the spill comes in.
And the sands will roll out a carpet of oil for your weary toes to be a touching.
BP claims we'el meet all your demands,
And we'el shout from our decks your days are numbered.
The chains of the rig was busted in the night and the oils at the bottom of the ocean.
The wind will shift and the sea will splash and the shoreline sands contaminated..
They will pinch themselves and squel and know that it's for real .
The hour that the oil comes in..
I improvised a bit but my point is we are not done yet.
There are two more wells drilled out there and how come they did not explode.
The answer is clear. The fix proves a violation in original proceedure. Self incrimination
Everything in America is the same these days no one is guilty and irrisponsibility and unaccountability is rewarded.
That is of course exept bernie Maddot.