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Obama's Rolling Stone Interview: President Calls Out 'Irresponsible' Apathetic Dem Voters

The Huffington Post   First Posted: 09/28/10 12:58 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:50 PM ET

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Despite what his progressive detractors in his own party might say, President Obama believes that he's accomplished 70 percent of his campaign promises in the first two years of his presidency. Expect the rest to get done in the next two years, or perhaps the next six, he told Rolling Stone in a recent interview from the Oval Office.

In a lengthy sit down, the President discussed a wide range of topics, ranging from GOP obstruction and the Tea Party's opposition to his administration, to his accomplishments so far and his optimism that his agenda will only move forward in the upcoming years.

For his critics within the Democratic Party, Obama laid out to Rolling Stone's Jann S. Wenner his own interpretation of his current legislative victories:

I keep in my pocket a checklist of the promises I made during the campaign, and here I am, halfway through my first term, and we've probably accomplished 70 percent of the things that we said we were going to do -- and by the way, I've got two years left to finish the rest of the list, at minimum. So I think that it is very important for Democrats to take pride in what we've accomplished.

In one of many seemingly frustrated mentions of progressives being discontented by the direction and supposedly minimal gains of his presidency, Obama laid out a situation in which he was forced to compromise for the reality of less lofty but perhaps more achievable goals:

I could have had a knock-down, drag-out fight on the public option that might have energized you and The Huffington Post, and we would not have health care legislation now. I could have taken certain positions on aspects of the financial regulatory bill, where we got 90 percent of what we set out to get, and I could have held out for that last 10 percent, and we wouldn't have a bill. You've got to make a set of decisions in terms of "What are we trying to do here? Are we trying to just keep everybody ginned up for the next election, or at some point do you try to win elections because you're actually trying to govern?" I made a decision early on in my presidency that if I had an opportunity to do things that would make a difference for years to come, I'm going to go ahead and take it.

But Obama admitted that the larger opposition to his administration was coming not from the left, but from Republican legislators who he said were trying to block even his most minor moves:

Everything just seems to drag on -- even what should be routine activities, like appointments, aren't happening," Obama said. "So it created an atmosphere in which a public that is already very skeptical of government, but was maybe feeling hopeful right after my election, felt deflated and sort of felt, "We're just seeing more of the same."

As for the Tea Party movement, Obama identified it as a genuine mix of concerned, conservative Americans, but also as a grouping that possessed some less alluring individuals or sects:

And then there are probably some aspects of the Tea Party that are a little darker, that have to do with anti-immigrant sentiment or are troubled by what I represent as the president. So I think it's hard to characterize the Tea Party as a whole, and I think it's still defining itself.

About the perceived vehicle for much of the opposition to Obama's administration, Fox News, the President may have fanned the flames of enmity between the White House and the media giant when he called it "destructive" to the country:

[Laughs] Look, as president, I swore to uphold the Constitution, and part of that Constitution is a free press. We've got a tradition in this country of a press that oftentimes is opinionated. The golden age of an objective press was a pretty narrow span of time in our history. Before that, you had folks like Hearst who used their newspapers very intentionally to promote their viewpoints. I think Fox is part of that tradition -- it is part of the tradition that has a very clear, undeniable point of view. It's a point of view that I disagree with. It's a point of view that I think is ultimately destructive for the long-term growth of a country that has a vibrant middle class and is competitive in the world. But as an economic enterprise, it's been wildly successful. And I suspect that if you ask Mr. Murdoch what his number-one concern is, it's that Fox is very successful.

Anti-war advocates are not likely to be encouraged by his description of his plans going forward in Afghanistan, in which he again appeared to leave the door open for military engagement beyond the initial drawdown date that is planned for July of next year:

Starting July of 2011, we will begin a transition process, and if the strategy we're engaged in isn't working, we're going to keep on re-examining it until we make sure that we've got a strategy that does work.

As for the upcoming midterm elections, Obama told Rolling Stone that there was no excuse for Democrats to stay home from the polls in November:

The idea that we've got a lack of enthusiasm in the Democratic base, that people are sitting on their hands complaining, is just irresponsible.

The AP flags this quote from the piece:

"People need to shake off this lethargy. People need to buck up," Obama told Rolling Stone in an interview to be published Friday. The president told Democrats that making change happen is hard and "if people now want to take their ball and go home, that tells me folks weren't serious in the first place."
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Despite what his progressive detractors in his own party might say, President Obama believes that he's accomplished 70 percent of his campaign promises in the first two years of his presidency. Expect...
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amleth 10:09 PM on 09/28/2010
Here is a life long dem calling out Obama on two significant counts: his failures to 

a) protect and preserve the civil rights of American citizens 

b) bring accountability and honest citizen-leaders to the banking system

are careless and irresponsible.

President Obama: we are not your servants; you are supposed to be our servant.

There appears to be a great deal  Read More...
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Al Nava
Working-Class & Progressive Revolutionary Leader
04:26 PM on 10/05/2010
Only vote Progressive! Everyone else is weak.
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ShanaJuly
03:57 PM on 09/30/2010
Dontcha just wish Politifact had been around when Bush/Cheney were trashing the country. Dontcha just think it would have bee wonderful for the media to have been so engaged instead of turning a blind eye to everything because they were a bunch of cowards. THEN the Democrats take over a FUBARed country and everybody wants to hold them accountable and responsible for the Cheney/Bush mess.

Where were they when the country needed them? Nowhere to be found. Why? Because they were a bunch of cowards. Now, they have found their voices--just in time to help republicans lie their way back into power. Only in America...
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ShanaJuly
01:30 PM on 09/30/2010
ATTENTION, ATTENTION:

AMNESIAC ALERT:

Republican posters do not recall Bush/Cheney failed administration.
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Tribal Knowledge
Show respect to all people and grovel to none.
03:02 PM on 09/30/2010
Bush is no longer president....see, it's this whole other guy now.

You mayu want to put the bong down and catch up.
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ShanaJuly
03:33 PM on 09/30/2010
Love the insults. I see you are still hurling them. As far as I am concerned until we get out from under the messes Bush/Cheney created and until the lying hypocrites in the republican party stop acting like they had nothing to do with the mess Bush/Cheney created, I am going to post that message.

Been here before just had to start over that's all so I know your posts tribal and that they are.
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
07:14 PM on 09/29/2010
Obama, Rahm Emanuel, the DLC, David Axelrod, David Plouffe, all have worked their @$$es off to prevent real progressives getting into office. 

One example right off the bat is Blanche Lincoln.

The White House put their full weight & support behind Blanche Lincoln over the true progressive (& union-backed) candidate in the primary, Bill Halter. 

This wasn't unlike when Obama made a deal with Arlen Specter and put the full weight and support of the Democratic machine behind Specter during the 2010 primary in Pennsylvania, trying to buy off (among other alternative candidates Democratic voters in PA might have wanted to vote to have representing them) Joe Sestak.  Consider that -- Obama actively went about trying to prevent Democratic voters from choosing their preferred candidate for the US so that a DINO, Republican Arlen Specter, could retain the seat.

Lincoln is 40 points down behind the GOP candidate John Boozman.

Guess who could beat Boozman in Arkansas? Bill Halter. Because, like just about all Americans, Arkansans would prefer an authentic candidate, even if it's a progressive. We appreciate honesty.

But more progressives in Congress means real populist legislation getting passed into law. Real reform bills, that re-regulate banks and big business. Real stimulus bills, with jobs creation, green clean energy development, and more.

But that's not who or what Obama and the DLC-controlled Democrats are about.

The rightwing attacking Obama and their refusal to work in "a bipartisan manner" should have pushed Obama to play hardball and move populist legislation through Congress quickly and decisively.  To undo the Bush-Cheney abuses, especially with the tentative hold on a filibuster-proof majority Democrats were given in the 2008 election.

Instead, he let Republicans dictate the pace and shape a debate that was already done and voted on and won by Democrats in 2008.

If Republicans are so bad (and I think they are), why is Obama blocking all investigations and prosecutions into the Bush-Cheney administration?  Perhaps if Bill Clinton hadn't done the same thing for the Reagan-Bush administration, we wouldn't have been saddled with Bush-Cheney at all.

When Obama came into power, the GOP wasn't on the ropes; it was down for the count.  And Obama issued them a pardon.  He expresses absolutely no remorse or plan to do anything differently.  

Obama's not the Democrat that you think he is.  He's not any kind of Democrat; he's a DINO. 
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ShanaJuly
01:23 PM on 09/30/2010
When has a sitting president campaigned for the person running against the incumbent?
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
03:12 PM on 09/30/2010
It's been a rule of thumb that former presidents don't formally endorse candidates in the primaries, but both Carter and Clinton have leaked their 'preferences' or that they 'like' a certain candidate in a race.  

Their doing that set a precedent (broke the ice, IMHO) for what Obama did.

It's been more than just a rule of thumb that sitting presidents do not get involved in the primary contests between members of their own party, but a taboo, the likes of which shouldn't and have never needed explanation before.  

 Whenever the choice has been between real Democrats and DINOs, Obama has consistently worked to get the DINO into office, and gone beyond the past protocol to do so.  

Some of Obama's 'most ardent supporters' have defended him, saying that the times and the stakes dictated he do that to make deals.  The fact is that the deals Obama has made are lousy deals.   Either he's a bad deal-maker, or the deals he's made (pro-corporate, anti-populist) are exactly what he set out to do.  

And that's the real key to understanding DLC Democrats and how they operate.  They need us to believe that they're not corrupt, not working for Corporations, but are just merely inept.  They also need to remain likable and have us believe that they're not so inept that we won't keep voting for them.  Even then, should we decide that as likable as an individual DLCer is, he or she is just not capable of achieving our shared objectives and vote them out, the DLC has more in the pipeline to take their place and continue the "ineptitude".

That's how we got Obama; he flew under the radar.  We thought we were getting rid of the DLC's frontrunner, Hillary.  

Democratic voters, for the most part, still haven't finished their love affair with Bill Clinton.  Like the real debate and assessment of Reagan that's never happened, we've never assessed Clinton's true legacy.  Eliminating the social welfare safety nets, Glass-Steagle, the passage of the Telecommunications Act of 1996, rendition, privatization, the sanctions & daily bombing of Iraq (and so much more) laid the foundation for what Bush and Cheney did and the decimation of the country.  As Alan Greenspan said, "Bill Clinton was the best Republican president we've had in a while."
03:50 PM on 09/29/2010
The Democrats and Obama seem to think that Progressives always voting for them is their god given right, and in doing so they end up ignoring the aspirations and opinions of that base:
http://sherrytalksback.wordpress.com/2010/09/29/obama-america%e2%80%99s-cleopatra-queen-of-denial/
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ShanaJuly
01:28 PM on 09/30/2010
Progressives can do whatever they want because it is a Gawd given fact they won't get jack out or republicans. So, keep up the b*tching and complaining and help those republicans win in November. Your causes will not be supported again.
08:43 AM on 10/04/2010
Our causes are not being supported now. Use some logic, please.
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marctm56
That Guy
03:20 PM on 09/29/2010
When you have friends like these...
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
07:16 PM on 09/29/2010
...who needs enemas?
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SparkyDash
Save a pretzel for the gas jets.
04:52 AM on 10/01/2010
After reading your postings, I would say that you do. You're not full of "it" you are full of yourself. A flush wouldn't hurt.
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Truthb4u
Return to reality.
02:10 PM on 09/29/2010
For the people who are saying, "I wont vote because of Obama. I hope you know that the President is not on any ballot. You are not voting for your local official because of Washington politics. Some of these people live in your own towns and your children might attend the same school. You know your local official on a first name basis. Yet you fail for the Republican trick of making this a national election and against the President only.

Your local representative is not the President. Why should they be held accountable because of your "issues" with Obama. I guess you are saying "Hate one democrat, mean hate them all".
BraveWarrior
The truth will set you free, like it or not
03:12 PM on 09/29/2010
Many democratic candidates are distancing themselves from the Obama administration. Mostly blue dogs and those in red states. Yet the president doesn't blame them for sabotaging his agenda. He offered a job to Sestak, to aid the great liberal, Arlen Spector. It appears he gave Hillary the SOS position and had the former Clinton administration assume power in his government. So she could run later. Monte Hall would be proud of our government, you remember, 'Let's Make a Deal'. Too bad he can't make a deal with the Israeli government. He could actually earn his Nobel prize if he could get a peace deal.
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ShanaJuly
01:29 PM on 09/30/2010
ATTENTION, ATTENTION:

AMNESIAC ALERT:

Does not recall Bush/Cheney failed administration.
12:49 PM on 09/29/2010
I'm extremely disappointed in the shallow thinking that a new President (CEO) is expected to come into a bankrupt company (USA Economy) with over 300 million employees (American population) and not only CHANGE but IMPLEMENT policies, procedures, attitudes and behaviors overnight (less than 4 years) with the same staff (Congress) that pushed the company over the edge. Society gives new businesses 5 years to fail. Why is he any different? How long does it take a smoker to stop smoking? An alcoholic to stop drinking? Remove a virus from your computer? Or figure out how to use all the keys and features on your new blackberry?

All of this complaining indicates unrealistic expectations on how serious and dire the company's problems (USA) really were, how deep the wound was (bankruptcy of our financial system), and how much blood was actually lost ($$$ and lives from wars, 40 yrs of spending, etc.). I'm just utterly, utterly shocked at these responses.
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Truthb4u
Return to reality.
01:55 PM on 09/29/2010
Your article is spot-on and fanned.
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HLL
Women, their rights & nothing less ~ SusanBAnthony
01:59 PM on 09/29/2010
F & F ~ great post, dj. Right on ☮

"I think the recovery hasn't been stronger because the hole that was dug for President Obama by the Bush administration was far worse than anybody could imagine, first of all."
~ Howard Dean 
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nirek
Proud progressive Vietnam vet. against WAR
03:06 PM on 09/29/2010
Good to see you, my friend. Where have you been?
☮ + ♡ = :)
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lemmyk73
Foxy Shazam!
12:48 PM on 09/29/2010
Obama is lying again. According to politifact he has kept about 50% of promises and even those are shaky. Like HC reform- yes it was passed but it does not do what he says it would do. thus it is not a promise kept.
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Truthb4u
Return to reality.
01:46 PM on 09/29/2010
It depends on how you are counting wins and losses.
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lemmyk73
Foxy Shazam!
02:06 PM on 09/29/2010
The 'ol Clinton trick.
12:29 PM on 09/29/2010
Now we know how Obama can sleep at night!
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hagagaga
My comments are funnier than yours.
12:24 PM on 09/29/2010
If you keep attacking your base, your base will keep becoming apathetic to you.
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Scott Zwartz
12:26 PM on 09/29/2010
Is Obie's political adviser really Karl Rove?

Who else would tell him to attack his supporters and lie about the reasons they are displeased with him?

DUMP OBAMA in 2012 but VOTE DEM in 2010
12:29 PM on 09/29/2010
One promise kept in full measure!
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Scott Zwartz
12:23 PM on 09/29/2010
If Obie believes that he has accomplished 70% of his campaign promises, he is as delusional as Glenn Beck.

From the very beginning, Obie betrayed us on everything from Health Care (secret deals with Insurance and Big Pharma), to Wall Street (Trillions of loans for Wall Street, zip for middle class), GITO still operating, DADT (foolish of SLDN to trust him), appointed incompetent to head Dept of Education ...

But he has held the worst until 5 weeks before the election. When the DEMS decided not to have a national referendum on Obie's failures as that would be disaster and instead they have focused on the follies of the local GOP candidates. The Dems have selectively nationalized the races only where local GOP have personally signed onto insane nation GOP issue like ending Social Security and No abortion for any reasons, the Dems had avoided playing into the GOP plan to nationalize Obie's failures.

Then Obie nationalized himself as the focal point by criticizing his followers and for their not proclaiming his wonderfulness during the campaigns!

There is basically nothing more harmful that Obie could have done than to adopt the GOP strategy to nationalize the local campaigns as a referendum on him.
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Truthb4u
Return to reality.
01:48 PM on 09/29/2010
Back to your cave Tea Bagger with alll your lies.
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TaurusRose
Seek the Unique
08:51 PM on 09/29/2010
He don't sound like no tea bagger to this progressive
12:10 PM on 09/29/2010
"The search for a scapegoat is the easiest of all hunting expeditions".....President Eisenhower
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12:09 PM on 09/29/2010
the media loves a fight. i expect huff&po and ap to continue fanning the flames of this misperception. hint: people that voted for the president and a more representative agenda don't have time to wait for pollers to call them up.
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bsc
12:08 PM on 09/29/2010
that's great strategy. attack your base, not your opponents. awesome change we can believe in. Obama- maybe you should stop and ask why your base is so frustrated. Is it because you have caved to repubs on every major issue? i wonder...
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chiara12
12:23 PM on 09/29/2010
Man the thin skin of progressives (of which I'm one, minus the thin skin) is amazing. Since when is "buck up" an attack? An attack is when someone calls you stoopid or makes a remark about you being anti-American.

I agree with Obama, if people who are disappointed want to pick up their ball and go home then I don't think they were serious or realistic about the issues.
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Scott Zwartz
12:34 PM on 09/29/2010
When some one lies about you and then chastises you based upon lies, you have been attacked. That is WH approach by both Obie and Joie.

Why does the WH doe this? Because Obie has adopted every GOP proposal from day one and their proposal for these campaigns is to demonize the Progressives. Thus, Obie hopes on the GOP express to get in some good old Progressive bashing. The man is a moral coward!

By pushing himself front and center and proclaiming he has accomplished 70% of his goals, Obie nationalized local campaigns just when the Dems were beginning to turn the tide by localizing them.

DUMP OBAMA in 2012, but VOTE DEM in 2010