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West Virginia Poll Shows Manchin And Raese Deadlocked In Senate Race

First Posted: 09/29/10 10:34 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:50 PM ET

Manchin And Raese

Yesterday marked the release of more than a dozen new statewide surveys covering contests for the U.S. Senate that mostly confirm previous polling. The most important, however, may be two new automated surveys showing very close races in West Virginia and Washington, two states that are critical to any Republican strategy to win control of the Senate.

In West Virginia, a new Rasmussen automated poll shows Republican John Raese with a 2 point edge over Democrat Joe Manchin (48% to 46%) that falls well within the survey's reported 4.5% margin of error. The only public polls on this race since July have come from Rasmussen and Democratic-affiliated Public Policy Polling (PPP), and all indicate a close race. Just last week, Rasmussen showed Manchin leading by seven (50% to 43%), while PPP had Raese up by 3 (46% to 43%).

Our trend line gives greatest weight to yesterday's new Rasmussen poll, but whatever way you slice the data, this race falls into the toss-up category and has clearly become a key to Republican hopes for winning a Senate majority. Both the Democratic and Republican party committees have started investing heavily in television advertising in the state, suggesting that their internal polls tell a similar story.

Consider where West Virginia now falls in the overall Senate standings. Republicans need to pick up 10 Democratic Senate seats to win absolute control. A nine-seat Republican pickup would create a 50-50 tie. Under that scenario, Democratic control of the Senate would depend on Vice President Joe Biden's tie breaking vote and the continuing loyalty of Joe Leiberman, who has caucused with the Democrats since 2006.

Right now, Republican candidates lead in all of the states they currently represent. As the following table shows, they also hold strong leads in five states currently represented by Democrats (North Dakota, Arkansas, Indiana, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin) with one more (Colorado) leaning Republican.

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We classify three more states represented by Democrats -- Nevada, Illinois and West Virginia -- as toss-ups based on close margins on our trend estimates. If Republicans carry all three, it would take just one more state (or a party switch by Lieberman) to flip the Senate to Republican control.

We currently classify Washington as "lean Democrat", but the new Fox News/Pulse automated survey shows Democratic Senator Patty Murray holding a slight, non-significant edge over Republican challenger Dino Rossi (48% to 47%). Another automated SurveyUSA poll released last week put Murray up by two (50% to 48%).

Automated polls have typically shown a closer race in Washington than those using live interviewers. Our trend lines continue to give Murray a roughly four-point advantage (50.3% to 46.0%), but that estimate splits the difference between the live interviewer surveys that give Murray a wide lead (50.2% to 42.9%) and the automated surveys that give Murray a considerably narrower advantage (48.8% to 47.6%)

In other results from yesterday's polls:

Four more new surveys on the Senate race in Ohio, from CBS News/New York Times, Reuters/Ipsos, Fox News and Rasmussen Reports, show Republican Rob Portman leading Democrat Lee Fisher by margins ranging from 9 to 13 percentage points. A University of Cincinnati poll released this past weekend gave Porter a slightly larger, 15 percentage point margin. Our trend estimate for Ohio, which also considers earlier polls, gives Portman a roughly 12 percentage point lead (50.1% to 38.2%).

The relative consistency of the Ohio results comes despite the very different methodologies used. The Rasmussen and Fox News polls, fielded by Rasmussen subsidiary Pulse Opinion Research, both use an automated, recorded voice method to ask questions, while the live-interview surveys conducted by CBS News/New York Times and Reuters/Ipsos and the University of Cincinnati use more traditional live-interviewer methods.

While the Ohio Senate results generally confirm earlier trends, the new surveys produced good news for Democratic Governor Ted Strickland. While a flurry of public polls in August and early September showed Strickland trailing Republican challenger John Kasich by mostly double-digit margins, including an eye-popping 17 point outlier from Quinnipiac University, the new polls show Kasich with an edge of between 1 and 4 percentage points. Our standard trend estimate now gives Kasich an eight point lead (49.6% to 41.5%), but our more sensitive trend estimate, which gives greater weight to the more recent polls, shows Strickland narrowing Kasich's lead to less than 3 points (46.1% to 43.8%).

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In Colorado, the new Fox News/Pulse survey shows Republican nominee Dan Maes fading fast, independent conservative Tom Tancredo rising sharply and closing in on Democrat John Hickenlooper. The new surveys shows Hickenlooper leading with 44% to 34% for Tancredo and just 15% for Maes. These results are consistent with the trend seen on a survey conducted a week ago by CNN and Time.

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Yesterday marked the release of more than a dozen new statewide surveys covering contests for the U.S. Senate that mostly confirm previous polling. The most important, however, may be two new automate...
Yesterday marked the release of more than a dozen new statewide surveys covering contests for the U.S. Senate that mostly confirm previous polling. The most important, however, may be two new automate...
 
 
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Hysterian68
bureaucrat/historian/ranter
06:47 PM on 10/05/2010
The two Republican ladies from Maine need to give serious thought to switching parties after Nov. 2 to offset a possible Republican takeover. They will both be severely punished by the crazies who ride into power with the help of the Tea Baggies.

In West Virginia, the goodies aren't going to be flowing to the residents of this mining state now that Senator Byrd, King of Perks and Pork, is no more. What is also no more is Federal gravy trains stopping in every village and junction throughout the state. The folks there are going to have to EARN a living very soon.
08:54 PM on 10/05/2010
Hysterian68, Most of us here in West Virginia WORK VERY HARD for a living. I own a computer business which I have to run in the evenings and weekends. Since the recent economic down turn I have to work a full time job during the day for medical insurance and to make sure I can make my mortgage payment. Most West Virginians have to work this away, we do not get hand outs. Most of the pork money goes for special projects to benifit a few, like Joe Manchin and his political buddies. I do not think he will get elected to the senate.

Will Governor Manchin Be Indicted?
http://www.huntingtonnews.net/editor/100923-edmanchin.html .
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Hysterian68
bureaucrat/historian/ranter
06:45 PM on 10/05/2010
The two Republican ladies from Maine need to give serious thought to switching parties after Nov. 2 to offset a possible Republican takeover. They will both be severely punished by the crazies who ride into power with the help of the Tea Baggies.

In West Virginia, the goodies aren't going to be flowing to the residents of this mining state now that Senator Byrd, King of Perks and Pork, is no more. What is also no more is Federal gravy trains stopping in every village and junctin throughout the state. The folks there are going to have to EARN a living very soon.
01:01 PM on 09/30/2010
Now that the former Democratic Klansman is no longer around to bribe West Virginians by using his Senatorial seniority to allocate money to the state via wasteful, inefficient earmarks, West Virginia is going through a political identity crisis. Voters are struggling to figure out which candidate (Democrat vs Republican) will do a better job of screwing federal taxpayers on behalf of West Virginia.
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jerzygurl
08:51 AM on 09/30/2010
After the horrendous defeats Dems are going to be experiencing all over the country in 34 short days, I wonder if they'll recover by 2012? 
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Darcy64
11:16 AM on 09/30/2010
If a large number of Republicans and Tea Partiers win and the country gets much worse again, I think that Dems will not have much trouble recovering and excelling. If Repubs win big it could be the best thing for Obama in 2012.
01:21 PM on 09/30/2010
But what if things get better after political gridlock is achieved? Voters might conclude that divided power is better and force Obama to work with a Republican Congress post-2012. That's what happened to Clinton.
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sugarfree
superuser
05:31 PM on 10/05/2010
Thanks, the Republican's has not plan.
11:13 PM on 09/29/2010
Manchin and obama are one and the same. obama is a cancer on the democrat party and the people of West Virginia are sicked and tired of the destruction of their way of life. Then again, the whole country is saying that....
02:43 AM on 09/30/2010
Tea tea party is a cancer, they are a destructive group of uneducated uninformed right wing reactionaries pretending at having a plan. Good thing the only ones the teabaggers have been able to take down so far have Been long serving Republicans, which just helps the Dems by taking Republicans out of any leadership positions.
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dcjdjay
09:44 AM on 09/30/2010
What way of life? If it weren't for the Democratic Party and Robert Byrd, WVa would be even more of a basket case than it currently is.
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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
pantherburns
labor creates all wealth
10:50 PM on 09/29/2010
You're kidding? Feingold is down and my lose his seat? Has Wisconsin decided to throw in the towel and begin wearing that "I"m With Stupid" t-shirt?
11:14 PM on 09/29/2010
The people of Wisconsin have figured out that Russ Fein-steals-the-gold is a radical leftist. He markets himself as a "maverick" but is really nothing more than Reid's puppet.
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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
pantherburns
labor creates all wealth
11:21 PM on 09/29/2010
Says the puppet.
02:45 AM on 09/30/2010
Reids puppet? Please even you're not really stupid enough to think that.
09:22 PM on 09/29/2010
All politics are local. They can vote Republican all they want, they will soon regret it. In my state we tried that and trust, we could not wait to give him the boots. Republicans will sock it to you once you vote them in your state...they quickly form alliances with big business operating in your state and allow them to tax the crap outta you, raise college tuition yearly, allow energy companies to double your energy prices, etc. Don't be fooled by these Repubicans. We have not voted them back in our state since we kick them out. They are sharks.
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SIMPLICIMUSS
Kampf gegen Dummheit !
10:14 PM on 09/29/2010
What state are you in , Fantasy ?? All politics are local. Ever hear of primaries ? There are bums on both sides. Don`t like what`s happening, do something about it ! When you get one party who dominates, there is no accountability. Look at the nutcase in D.C., Marion Berry as an example.
10:35 PM on 09/29/2010
D.C. sucked before Marion Barry. Barry turned D.C. around by bringing developers into the city and the others after him continued it. Did you ever visit Washington, DC in the late 70s? back then, just don't get caught down there after 4pm...you may not make it outta there...downtown D.C. use to be a red light district. Now, Washington, D.C. is a brand new city. So, don't hate on Barry, he had some issues towards the end of his term with drugs but you can't tarnish his legacy.
05:52 AM on 09/30/2010
And what high tax Democrat state do you live in? If Democrats have been running your state, you probally have high unemployment and high tax rates. Not to mention a State Income Tax. Please, let us know.
01:24 PM on 09/30/2010
Not hardly...but I did when we had a Republican Governor. Guess what happened when we had a Repubican Governer? taxes and fees from cable companies, communication companies went up sky high; energy prices doubled; insurance companies were allowed to raise everything; big businesses were allowed to operate without offering health insurance to its employees; MVA fees went up; and state college tuitions sky rocketed. Don't be fooled, Republicans talk a good game but they allign themselves with big corporations as soon as they get elected and then come after you. That lower tax message they preach is a ploy. They may not tax you on income but they tax the pants off you in other ways and your pocket will take a hit.
If it don't come out in the wash, it will come out in the rinse. believe that.
08:51 PM on 09/29/2010
Raese is a deceitful man....http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/9/24/905005/-WV-Sen:-Republican-RaesI-made-my-money-the-old-fashioned-way,-I-inherited-it..
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Joshy X
observer in Weimar Amerika
08:48 PM on 09/29/2010
Liberal big UNION West Virginia...the workers heartland refused to vote for Gore, or Kerry, or Obama... the blue collar workers there voted GOP all 3 times... must be billionaires
08:57 PM on 09/29/2010
one to many coal mine disasters now.
09:57 PM on 09/29/2010
We don't consider ourselves liberals in the first place. We are Democrats, many of us work in Unionized jobs and we know how important it is to look out for each other and our neighbors, but we have never been liberals.
We do cling to our guns and our religion.
Teenage pregnancy used to be an epidemic and to be honest we would prefer that over an abortion epidemic any day.
Most of us consider homosexuality a sin...but no greater or lesser sin than others.
We've done an incredible job over the last 3 generations of cleaning up our streams and rivers from mine run off and sewage.
Our health care sucks. Mainly due to past access issues.
Thanks to Senator Byrd we were able to overcome a lot of our historical problems..

But we are Appalachians (if there is such a word as refers to people). So we have a general distrust of outsiders....and Kerry, Gore, and President Obama are very different. Bush and McCain were very similar to what we know. (You may have noticed that Palin and Tea baggers are very different from us too, and do well to avoid us!)

If he runs again, the President will take WV. We know the measure of him now.
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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
pantherburns
labor creates all wealth
10:44 PM on 09/29/2010
You're trying to talk sense to a sock puppet.
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Joshy X
observer in Weimar Amerika
09:54 AM on 09/30/2010
nice post chill... at least it's real... authentic... and fair... the scotch-irish in those hills have seen much... they proved that when broke off from slave demo VA in the war to join Lincoln's GOP...

but I bet WV will go GOP in 2012 when they see who the nominee is
08:46 PM on 09/29/2010
Raese lives in Florida...kids attended school in Florida( he doesn't believe in WV schools).....he has returned to Florida in his own plane 5 times in 3 wks. He inherited a fortune......he knows nothing about WV..........he is a fraud.
05:55 AM on 09/30/2010
And he is still preferred over a Democrat. That says all you need to know.
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jerzygurl
07:03 PM on 09/29/2010
Great news from F-8. First independent poll out shows Alan Grayson down in race by 7 points with an approval rating an abysmal 35%. Looks like those fake Taliban ads against Webster fooled no one.
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kdlaiusa
Even B&B are smarter than the Republicans.
06:42 PM on 09/29/2010
GOP will win 3 senate seats max.
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jerzygurl
07:00 PM on 09/29/2010
You are a dreamer but not much of a political realist...LOL
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kdlaiusa
Even B&B are smarter than the Republicans.
10:00 PM on 09/29/2010
All of my dreams have come true. Don't mess with me.
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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
pantherburns
labor creates all wealth
10:46 PM on 09/29/2010
Republicans are much better at predicting wins than they are at actually winning elections.
06:38 PM on 09/29/2010
WHOAAA...A Dem will win W Va LOL, Yay Baggers I love you!! Keep up the good work. ( :
06:23 PM on 09/29/2010
No really. I don't know where these polls come from but Raese couldn't get elected dog catcher in WV. Especially against a Manchin.

Geez Louise! The guy looks like the undertaker character from that old movie "Phantasm". Come election day he'll get like five votes.

Trust me on this...(and make sure you vote!!)
06:18 PM on 09/29/2010
No. Actually its not even close.