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Pension Benefits For Current Employees Could Face Legal Challenges

First Posted: 10/15/10 11:29 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:00 PM ET

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For government workers who've toiled for decades, some pension promises aren't as ironclad as they seem.

As local governments scramble to cut costs to fill massive holes in their budgets, current workers' promised future benefits -- which don't have explicit constitutional protection in some states -- could be vulnerable.

Proposals to shrink benefits have so far focused mostly on new hires, treating current workers as immune. But, as Joshua Rauh, a professor at Northwestern University's Kellogg School of Management, told HuffPost, there's a legal "gray area." While nearly all state constitutions explicitly guarantee benefits accrued from work already completed, the status of future benefits -- benefits promised to current employees in exchange for future work -- is less certain. And lawmakers are looking for ways to cut costs.

"The assets that the cities have don't come anywhere near generating the benefit payments that are being made now and the projected payments over the next decade," Robert Novy-Marx, a professor at the University of Rochester's Simon School of Business, told HuffPost. "As it is now, if people just keep business as usual, the number we have is going to get worse."

For government employees, the promise of retirement benefits is sacred. Even when cities declare bankruptcy, as Vallejo, Calif., did in 2008, the benefits get paid. In the decades leading up to the recent financial crisis, public pension plans became steadily more generous. In 2007, government pensioners earned an average of $3.04 an hour, compared to $0.92 an hour for their private sector counterparts.

But the financial crisis has dealt a blow to the system. From the end of 2007 through the beginning of 2009, state and local government pension funds lost a combined $835 billion or 29 percent of their value. The Dow, during that period, dropped about 46 percent. The funds had piled their money into risky investments, both to pursue higher returns and, they say, to diversify their portfolios. But those expected returns, of around 8 percent, that they took for granted -- and still take for granted -- didn't materialize.

Compounding that problem was the fact that many governments chose to delay paying their pension obligations, racking up "off-balance-sheet" debt, as they expected the good times to last. A study released this week, authored by professors Novy-Marx and Rauh, calculates the total value of municipalities' unfunded pension promises to be $574 billion -- in addition to the roughly $3 trillion that states have promised to pay. And that's not even counting the future benefits promised to current employees.

Governments, like workers, have mostly treated pension promises for current employees as unbreakable. Ronald Snell, director of the state services division for the National Conference of State Legislatures, wrote in a July report that "More states have enacted significant retirement legislation in 2010 than in any other year in memory," but, as his October report demonstrates, the vast majority of that legislation concerns plans for new hires. When New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg spoke last week about cuts to pension benefits, he discussed only future employees' plans. Current employees and retirees, for the most part, have been shielded.

But current employees aren't as protected as the last few decades have made it seem. As Rauh explained, the promise of future benefits doesn't receive explicit constitutional backing in all states. Governments won't inflict retroactive cutbacks, but they could, in some cases, try to inflict freezes or increase the amount an employee has to contribute to a retirement plan.

"Are you allowed to say, 'You know what, you've earned the right to a pension based on, say, 10 years of work, because you're 45 years old and you've worked for the city for ten years, but we're going to stop it at that, and going forward we're going to open a 401(k) plan for you, and you're going to be paying into that'?" Rauh said. "That is a legally very contentious matter."

The strength of protection for municipal pension benefits depends on the particular state's constitution. The constitutions of seven states -- New York, Illinois, Louisiana, Michigan, Alaska, Arizona and Hawaii -- say pension benefits cannot be "diminished or impaired." That wording, Rauh said, is fairly airtight, and in those seven states, any challenges to benefits for current employees are likely to be struck down.

Still, even in those states, ambiguities remain. It is unclear, for example, if workers are owed benefits for work they haven't yet done: The "diminished or impaired" clause arguably could apply only to benefits for work already completed, Rauh said.

Other state constitutions, where wording is less forceful, leave benefit protections relatively open to interpretation. A study released in March, authored by University of Minnesota professor Amy Monahan, compares the pension legalese in a variety of state constitutions. In at least two states, Indiana and Texas, pensions are called "gratuities." The Indiana Court of Appeals has called pensions "mere gratuities springing from the appreciation and graciousness of the state."

Rauh called those states "outliers," and Monahan notes in the study that 2009 Texas pension legislation didn't touch current employee benefits. Where pensions don't have full and explicit constitutional protection, governments often protect them. But as municipalities look to balance their budgets, these conventional protections could be tested.

"In a lot of states the question is open to judicial review," Snell, the NCSL state services division director, told HuffPost. "They are certainly open to judicial review, of which there has not been a lot over the years, and certainly not comprehensive in most states."

Retirees in Colorado, Minnesota and South Dakota are currently suing those states, which have passed laws that trim the benefits for current pensioners. State lawmakers have reduced pensions funds' annual cost of living adjustments, reducing the amount of money owed to retirees on pension plans. Meredith Williams, chief executive of the Colorado Public Employees' Retirement Association, a Colorado pension fund, told the Wall Street Journal that cuts to new hires' benefits simply weren't enough to address budget shortfalls, and the state had to turn its knife on current pensioners' plans.

"They're watching those court battles in Minnesota very closely, as all of us are," Gregory Floyd, president of the Teamsters Local 237 union, told HuffPost, referring to New York lawmakers. "They would use this as an excuse to try it [to alter benefits for current pensioners.]"

Floyd, who sits on the board of the New York City Employees Retirement System, the city's largest pension fund, and whose union, Local 237, is, according to its website, the largest local division of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, said the city's budget problems, and the generosity of pension benefits, have been exaggerated. Lawmakers, he said, are just looking for an excuse to trim benefits.

"They're starting to attack us now. The steady drumbeat. Municipal workers making too much money, costing too much -- I've read at least five or six articles in the last week all saying the same thing," he said. "And not only existing employees. What about retirees right now? What about their benefits? They may be looking to cut those too."

Steven Kreisberg, director of collective bargaining for the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, was similarly skeptical about the need to reform pension plans. "I think that this is a real challenge. But it's a challenge that can be managed," he told HuffPost.

Still, he said that changes will come in the future, for new hires. "We're going to see an increase in pension fund contributions, both from employees and from employers," he said.

Floyd, for his part, said he thinks "Wall Street" should foot the bill. "The truth is municipal workers are not the cause of this crisis," he said. "And municipal workers are not the solution."

But Snell took a different view. "I think there's a growing realization among public employees that, happy or not, this is a problem of such magnitude that they have to be part of the solution," he said.

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For government workers who've toiled for decades, some pension promises aren't as ironclad as they seem. As local governments scramble to cut costs to fill massive holes in their budgets, current wor...
For government workers who've toiled for decades, some pension promises aren't as ironclad as they seem. As local governments scramble to cut costs to fill massive holes in their budgets, current wor...
 
 
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dbrett480
03:23 PM on 10/17/2010
Government pensioners don't receive social security or stock options as their private counterparts do. The average government pension is $2,101 a month and 78% receive less than $36,000 a year. So why do we target these people just so the Meg Whitmans of the world can get richer?
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MeinNH
Ooooo Silly Me
09:56 AM on 10/17/2010
My upcoming pension is one quarter of what I was told it was and their reply was "the company can decide to give or not give you the pension"....oooooh silly me, here I was told that it was a benefit for all my hard years of labor for the company.....by the way it was $455 and is now less than $125 per month.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
09:44 AM on 10/16/2010
i like the idea where everyone has to put into social security including all government employees and lawmakers. then they might fix it... funny they cry when the pension plans make a bad investment in gm bonds or whatever....i would like the right to make a bad investment in my pension plan instead i get govt social security.
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vippy
Carpe Diem!
08:36 PM on 10/15/2010
I have to wonder how is it possible they never find enough money for the little people but they have
extraordinary huge paychecks for the bankers? How come we can fight 3 wars yet have no money for the social security recipients? What is the problem here. If everyone works 40 years and pays in and it was invested it should have ballooned to extraordinary amounts. So the senate spent it and then is telling us how sorry they are, it is not their fault?
01:31 AM on 10/16/2010
If I understand correctly, many pension funds unwittingly bought junk that was represented as "AAA" rated securities. Billions evaporated when the housing market crashed. Moodys, Standard & Poor, Fitch - I think we can thank THEM for public pensions taking a dump. Isn't California's pension board suing one of the ratings agencies over this? Florida got a kick in the crotch from Lehman Brothers ( I believe our former governor, who shall remain nameless, was on Lehman's payroll at the time that sweet deal was made.)
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
09:46 AM on 10/16/2010
maybe they could have bough municipal bonds in california and not had to worry about that.....i say i want the right to make a bad investment in my pension....but instead 12% of my pay gets confiscated for a horrible return in social security.
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vippy
Carpe Diem!
10:57 AM on 10/16/2010
And we keep voting for those "experienced professionals." I think we need to rethink our
agenda!
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06:08 PM on 10/15/2010
Yes the J#$kS of Wall Street ruined pension systems of State and Municipal Governments around the Country and they want to make employees pay for their Criminal Wrong Doing!! I just reached Eligability to Retire from my State. It is no fault of mine or any other employee but yes Wall Street should pay and they should kill those obscene Compensation packages that these Corp Executives Get. Thank you very much.
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12:43 AM on 10/16/2010
Agree.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
09:48 AM on 10/16/2010
so why do government workers get to retire...sometimes at 50 years old and get a percentage of their pay....when the rest of us that have to contribute 12% to social security can do that i will be happy to hear your gripes. otherwise you can work to 67 like the rest of us.
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FoonTheElder
Always choosing between the lesser of two evils
06:07 PM on 10/15/2010
While many governments have underfunded their pensions, the computation of sufficient assets is largely based on the expected interest rate used to compute the funds in the future.

This not only applies for government pensions, but for private industry pensions as well. The computation of whether there is enough money is the present value of the benefits earned at retirement, which is highly dependent on the interest rate. For young employees, retirement could be 40 years.

When interest rates are down, it always appears as if there is a huge shortage of funds. When interest rates get high, it appears as if there will be plenty of money in the system. It's all an estimate of something 10 to 30 years down the road.
04:51 PM on 10/15/2010
The pension system is just not going to work without overhaul, you are fighting mathematics and you won't win, same with SS and a number of other programs. Look, lets say you fork away 10% of your wages into a pension, after 40 years you have 4 years of absolute dollars yet you retire at 65 and live to 85 and get 20 years of wages (most govt pensions are 80-100%), an awesome return on investment. So how does that all happen, easy, your pension is invested and you have current contributors putting in. Everyone knows the last 10 years in investment were flat, on top of that a number of states ie CA, FL, NY wrote healthy pensions when their state population was growing, now we have the reverse.

There is nothing wrong with pensions, nothing wrong with SS, but they are what they are PROMISES by politicians. You really thing some CA state rep was thinking 20-30 years in the future when they were laying out the plan. No, they wanted the vote for the next election.

The only way all this works is if there is some flexibility to adjust to economic conditions. Otherwise we can yell all we want but math will take over and end this.
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05:35 PM on 10/15/2010
Of course they won't work, if government is irresponsible in setting aside the money for the pensions. Wating unti there is a problem, is the way conservatives love to work things, then crying that there is no money to pay the pensions, while advocating for reducing taxes. They want the middle class to shrink.
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HMDMSR
Workers of the world, unite!
07:10 PM on 10/15/2010
Don't confuse math, science, and engineering with politics. Providing for the population has to do with matching resources to needs,. The dollars you speak of are just electronic entries in spreadsheets.
04:33 PM on 10/15/2010
I'm retired in Alaska. finally, something good comes out of alaska.
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FoonTheElder
Always choosing between the lesser of two evils
06:09 PM on 10/15/2010
Alaska is the state with the highest debt burden in the U.S., a 70% debt to GDP ratio.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/03/postpalin-alaska-largest-debt-burden/
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
04:20 PM on 10/15/2010
the great pyramid scheme unveiled....pensions are unsustainable!
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05:37 PM on 10/15/2010
Right, never mind all the years people paid into them. What only counts is the no bid contracts to Halliburton that allows Chick Deney and his family to sit pretty for years to come. GOPhers are a sad bunch and only care about the wealthy.

Don't spend your 15 cents all in one place, now.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
06:07 PM on 10/15/2010
whats the difference...i am paying into social security and when it is broke, i wont get anything. what does no bid halliburton contracts have to do with pensions.....do they offer pensions too? all politicians sit pretty...they all get rich when they get to dc....funny how that works. i just wonder why cant i put my retirement into a nice pension like the govt folks get to? i can manage it myself that way i know it will be there....
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sueinmn
03:40 PM on 10/15/2010
Had these pensions not been promised, the promise would have been on the paycheck in wages. Like any pension, we take away from raises on the checkto forward the pension or benefits plan. This hardly seems right to take away now. Im not a gov worker but realize exactly how pension plan work. We dont claw back from bankers and CEOs when we should have with bonuses or severence, why again the worker takes it in the shorts. We are so tilted to the upper levels of keeping promises and rest are all lied too.
03:48 PM on 10/15/2010
Then we could have invested more in our 401ks?

We don't stand a chance when the fox is guarding the chicken coop.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
09:51 AM on 10/16/2010
so when will the rest of us be able to participate in pensions and not social security?
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
03:39 PM on 10/15/2010
WHAT IS RUINING AMERICA IS THIS:

98% of All Welfare goes to the Richest 0.1% and their Corporate Interests:

So Main Street and the Middle Class and Small Business sink into Nothing!

1. $23.7 Trillion in Welfare to Wall Street

2. Lowest Effective Tax Rate (16.1%) for Richest 0.1% in the Civilized/Industrialized world! Most use CAPITAL GAINS of 15% and even with that many Rich Offshore their Loot to avoid Taxes!

3. Big Pharma gets Half a $Trillion in BUSH Giveaways - Bush Medicare Drug Bill = Welfare to Big Pharma!

4. Welfare to Military Contractors Overcharging 1,000% to 10,000% for for supplies + equipment + Services + Wasteful Construction Projects -- $40 for a Soldier's cafeteria breakfast + $500 for a gallon of gas from BP +$100 for a bag of laundry!

5. Bif OIL subsidies = The Chainy private party with Enron!

6. Welfare to Insurance Companies - 30,000,000+ More Government Paid for clients. Bush allowed the out-of-control rip-offs of the Insurance Industry!

7. WAR - Enriches the Richest 0.1% - $1 Trillion in Direct Funding and $3 Trillion in Indirect Funding. Low income soldiers paid for hard dangerous work while Contractors rip-off the Taxpayer using Overcharging on Sole-Source Cost-Plus Contracts let by other corporate employees working within our government!

8. BIG corporate Agriculture gets $Billions in welfare!
01:40 AM on 10/16/2010
Re: #4 & #7: I'm told the mil contractors have many non-us employees involved in our overseas debacles, paid just a few $ a day (which to them is a LOT of money.) So we pay the contractor $100 for that bag of laundry, while someone else made $3 working in the laundromat for the whole day. Who got the other $97...?
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roger g
When will we value people over money?
02:31 AM on 10/16/2010
Hey Phillip already one of your fans-comments like this justify why I am a fan- Kudos
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
03:38 PM on 10/15/2010
BUSH robbed private company pensions and NOW the RICHEST 0.1% are bound and determined to ROB Public and Social Security from Americans!

It will NOT HAPPEN if we stand UP against the TYRANY of the RICHEST 0.1% who have Bought and Run our country!
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TexasDem0
USMC Vietnam vet,Veteran for Peace
03:04 PM on 10/15/2010
Whether or not the details are in any given state’s constitution, it seems like a matter of contract law which applies to corporate America as well. If you accepted a job based on an offer of a specific salary and specific benefits, it would seem to me that refusing to honor the promise of benefits is just as fraudulent as refusing to provide the promised salary.
03:21 PM on 10/15/2010
Contractual law or the Dills Act did not seem to apply in California when they were furloughed and the lost 2 holidays. I have always wondered why Reagan was able to change the retirment age for social security for employees that were already vested in the system. I could see that it would be possible to change retirement benefits for current employees that are not yet vested in their pension plans.
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Deborah
02:59 PM on 10/15/2010
How do we, as citizens, go about forcing elected officials to have the same retirement and health insurance as the rest of us? How do we force them to have the same health insurance as we do?

I do not care if it takes 20 years, this disassociation of the elected must be forced to stop,

How would we go about this?
03:07 PM on 10/15/2010
The theory was that the taxpayer would pay the elected a lavish salary and pension so they would not be tempted by bribes.
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sueinmn
03:41 PM on 10/15/2010
It didnt work.
02:51 PM on 10/15/2010
You know they had to know this a long time ago. Why didn't they warn anyone?

I keep asking "Why aren't people going to jail?"

This country is crawling with criminals. It may be safer to go to prison to get away from them!
02:53 PM on 10/15/2010
They didn't warn people because our citizens have a tendency to shoot the messenger. They are doing it right now with Obama.
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Revee
05:01 PM on 10/15/2010
So right! Fanned.
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Revee
03:07 PM on 10/15/2010
I totally agree with your sentiments.
My theory on why people are not going to jail is that these "criminals" did not commit "simple" crimes. The crimes are really complex involving many people,organizations with reasons ranging from incompetence and ignorance to criminal. Some motives such as greed, as much as we may detest, are not crimes in a court of law.
So to get a successful prosecution would require a huge amount of resources. I don't think these resources exist at the moment.
03:38 PM on 10/15/2010
The checks and balances didn't work.