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Tim Kaine: Anonymous Conservative Fundraising Could Be Biggest Scandal Since Watergate

First Posted: 10/14/10 11:06 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:00 PM ET

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DNC Chair Tim Kaine raised the rhetorical stakes surrounding the debate over anonymous political donors, saying that the funding revenues driving conservative groups in the 2010 elections could be the biggest scandal since Watergate.

"I think this is a huge story, it might end up being -- I'm not in the [journalism] business -- one of the biggest political process stories since Watergate," said Kaine. "As we see this trend toward funding campaigns through non-reportable entities, the Democrats stand squarely for requiring disclosure of who is funding campaigns.... And I don't think it is an accident that you are seeing this happen, happening in a major way now."

Speaking at a Christian Science Monitor breakfast on Thursday, Kaine's argument echoed a fear, expressed most often by good government groups, that the dismantling of 30 years of campaign finance regulations had created a Wild West-like electoral landscape, ripe for conflicts of interest and corruption. He predicted that at the end of the election, "non-reportable spending" would dwarf "the reportable spending" on the Republican side of the aisle. And he even went so far as to claim that Republicans were fostering a non-disclosure climate to lure in big donors.

"Not every development since Watergate in American politics has been salutatory," said Kaine. "But if you were to pick one with no downside and it's all been good I think the move towards transparency in campaign financing has been an enormously positive and a concerted decision by the other side to try and end-run that and frankly, try and use secrecy as a marketing tool - 'Hey if you are going to give, why not give to us, no limits and we can keep it secret' - I think that poses some very significant challenges to the institutions of democracy we have."

And yet, by raising the specter of Nixonian political tricks Kaine was offering clear bait for the political reporters in attendance. At one point, in fact, he recalled how few journalists, save Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, originally thought that the Watergate scandal was of any real significance - enticing those in attendance to dig in deeper on the funding debate currently being waged.

"There is this battered file cabinet [at the DNC] and you pass by it a million times a day and never know what it is," said Kaine. "It is the file cabinet that was broken into at the Watergate hotel in 1974 we just keep it around as a little memento. And we think about that recently because Watergate, you know, was a scandal that had a lot of tentacles to it. It was a break-in story that most thought was unimportant, but a couple of enterprising reporters thought it was important. But by the time it expanded it had its tentacles on a whole lot of areas including the financing of campaigns."

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DNC Chair Tim Kaine raised the rhetorical stakes surrounding the debate over anonymous political donors, saying that the funding revenues driving conservative groups in the 2010 elections could be the...
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CoronaDischarge 01:05 PM on 10/14/2010
As a shareholder and a consumer, I want to know who is saying and paying for what. Speech has consequences. If I don't like the Facebook guy giving to legalize pot, then I should know about it so I can invest in another stock, or stop using that product or service. If I don't appreciate Target targeting gays, then hello Walmart.

As a country founded on recognizing as a principle the  Read More...
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Dave Harpe
Was young, now old.
03:25 PM on 10/18/2010
We can't call it corruption any more. The Supreme Court says it's legal. Too bad they don't respect the Constitutional rights of progressive people as much as they do their corporate idols. Why does the far right have the right of free assembly and even to carry guns at their events, but when the left tried to do that, and didn't carry guns, they were beaten up by the police in Chicago, or shot by the National Guard at Kent State? Remember the riot in Florida while election workers were trying to count votes? Where were the police then? Corporations have rights, and the Tea Party has rights, but thinking people apparently don't.
barrada nicto
Optimism is necessary.
10:24 AM on 10/17/2010
" Every significant foreign entity has a US front corporation to handle its business here. Under Citizens United any of those can freely donate as much money as they want ... "

That is why Citizens United is unConstitutional. Because it supports foreign contributions to campaigns.
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Dave Harpe
Was young, now old.
03:29 PM on 10/18/2010
Clearly the Supreme Court is far more loyal to big business than they are to the Constitution.
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12:55 AM on 10/17/2010
If the Democratic Party was serious about this, the Citizens United decision, bad as it was, explicitly allows disclosure laws.

page 7:

(b) The disclaimer and disclosure requirements are valid as ap
plied to Citizens United’s ads. They fall within BCRA’s “electioneer
ing communication” definition... Citizens United’s arguments
that §311 is underinclusive because it requires disclaimers for broad
cast advertisements but not for print or Internet advertising and that
§311 decreases the quantity and effectiveness of the group’s speech
were rejected in McConnell. This Court also rejects their contention
that §201’s disclosure requirements must be confined to speech that
is the functional equivalent of express advocacy under WRTL’s test
for restrictions on independent expenditures, 551 U. S., at 469–476
(opinion of ROBERTS, C.J.). Disclosure is the less-restrictive alterna
tive to more comprehensive speech regulations. Such requirements
have been upheld in Buckley and McConnell. Citizens United’s ar
gument that no informational interest justifies applying §201 to its
ads is similar to the argument this Court rejected with regard to dis
claimers. Citizens United finally claims that disclosure requirements
can chill donations by exposing donors to retaliation, but offers no
evidence that its members face the type of threats, harassment, or
reprisals that might make §201 unconstitutional as applied. Pp. 52–
55.
(c) For these same reasons, this Court affirms the application of
the §§201 and 311 disclaimer and disclosure requirements to Hillary.
Pp. 55–56.
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-205.pdf
12:35 AM on 10/17/2010
How can the American public stand by and let big business and billionaires try to buy
our government?

The 24 hour a day megaphone of FIXED NOISE broadcasting their informercial
for the Republican party to the phony front groups paid for
by billionaires and corporations, and campaign ads paid for by groups that are
not identified in the ads, big money is trying to buy our elections.

Now we need to worry about foreign corporations and governments influencing our elections.

The Republican party will stop at nothing to get back into power.

They ran the country into a ditch under GWB, threw the keys to the next guy
and said " I hope you fail". What a bunch of losers.

Americans have very short memories. We were losing 750,000 jobs a month when
GWB left office. Their policies put us on the brink of a depression. They created
such a big mess that it will take us years to fix the damage they caused.

And now they want to be in control again. To do what? To take us back to the
failed policies that got us into this mess.

Average Americans need to think before they vote and look at which party
is better at looking out for the interests of the average working American.

Democrats are working to save the middle class.

Republicans are working to save their campaign contributions and big business
benefactors.

Democrats need to speak up and not get drowned out by big money interests
09:44 AM on 10/17/2010
Yes, Americans have very short memories and are mad that Obama did not create jobs in 2 years! I guess it wasn't enough that we didn't slide into a full blown depression...how many are voting repub and then holler when the repubs discontinue social security and medicare!
barrada nicto
Optimism is necessary.
10:28 AM on 10/17/2010
Perhaps not short memories but too easily believing the lies.
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MCWAY
09:31 AM on 10/18/2010
You do realize that even the red-headed stepchild of cable news (MSNBC) just reported that the Dems have NOTORIOUSLY used foreign money to back their campaign and that Obama had a ton of anonymous donors for his campaign two years ago.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/10/18/msnbc_dems_received_1_million_in_foreign_donations.html

So, this is bascially a non-story, chirped by desperate Dems who want to talk about everything BUT their record and what they've passed over the last two years.

The American people know what Obama inherited and they know what Obama and the Dems have done, since he became president. THAT IS WHY the Dems have gone from potentially being in power for generations, to being just over two weeks from getting the HELL beat out of them in just 20 months.

And, the clueless wonder Obama STILL doesn't get it. He's still using those tired talking points, despite their ineffectiveness in this election. Now, he's claiming that the GOP will cut AIDS funding, a dumb statement to say the least, considering his precedessor gave more to fight AIDS than any other president in history (INCLUDING OBAMA himself).

Bush-bashing ain't working; Fox-News-bashing proved ineffective; John Boehner-criticizing was a no-go; and this Chamber-of-Commerce mess has fallen flat as well. The Dems are in for a bludgeoning, and there's not a darn thing they can do about it, at this point.
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Dave Harpe
Was young, now old.
03:35 PM on 10/18/2010
So the Democrats blew it, and the people who drove us into the ditch in the first place will be back in the driver's seat. We're toast.
12:12 AM on 10/17/2010
One minor quibble. Doesn't "Deep Throat" deserve far more credit for pushing the Watergate wagon than two rookie WP reporters who happened to be available to carry out his political objectives? I mean, ultimately it turns out the guy was getting revenge - seems like the Watergate story sought them out, not the other way around.
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murphysgirl
I prefer coffee, not tea..
12:12 AM on 10/17/2010
The MSM nowadays are so behind the curve, who knows if they'll get off their rumps and actually investigate!!
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10:28 AM on 10/17/2010
It's a though there are no real journalists anymore. Mostly we are fed opinion by pundits. Seems like the majority of Americans don't even want to know the truth. Very sad and dangerous...
barrada nicto
Optimism is necessary.
10:30 AM on 10/17/2010
Is it sloth or willful disregard?
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murphysgirl
I prefer coffee, not tea..
12:37 PM on 10/17/2010
Sadly, both..
barrada nicto
Optimism is necessary.
10:57 PM on 10/16/2010
Are Huffpost's servers overloaded, or are they understaffed with moderators?
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12:56 AM on 10/17/2010
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barrada nicto
Optimism is necessary.
10:49 PM on 10/16/2010
How else do you win elections when your side is responsible for the worst 8 years in the country's history?

Lie cheat and steal. Play as dirty as possible.

Bush changed the rules and made these rule changes possible. This is Republicans last, best chance to control the country forever.
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MCWAY
09:22 AM on 10/18/2010
It's easy to win elections, when your opponents flop on their major policies. It's easy when Mr. Hope-and-Change spends 800 billion dollars, promising that unemployment won't exceed 8%, only to watch it SPIKE to TEN PERCENT.

It's easy, when Obama promises transparency, only to resort to bribery, chicanery, and all other manner of foolishness to pass ObamaCare. And, it's easy to win elections when Obama cries like punk, blaming everyone (Bush, Rush, Hannity, Fox News, the Tea Party, John Boehner, Chamber of Commerce, etc.) but himself for his failed policies.
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mannapat
Truthiness shines a light.
10:25 PM on 10/16/2010
What are they trying to hide? The Chamber is a dark place. One thing they can't hide. Not one single Republican voted for the bill that would have rewarded corporations for jobs created in America and removed the GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES given to corporations for off-shoring jobs. With a little help, Obama could get jobs going again. But he's swimming upstream with one hand tied behind his back. The Republicans have said, "Hell NO!" to the majority of Middle Class Americans.
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Meldy1
Nurse,(I don't work anymore!)&Pianist
12:34 PM on 10/16/2010
rove was the nr.one mastermind during bush's term in office,rove is lambasting President Obama,for bringing this up!has rove something to hide?he's running and ranting around like a coward chicken who's about to be fried!if a chicken is starting to run...he's afraid of the knife!laceration time!If there is illegal here they should be investigated,that's illegal donations....corruption checked under Obama is just taking place...hurray.
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SLOMO66
We live in the house of Upside Down
12:30 PM on 10/16/2010
Remember Dems, you take from the same troth too.....
12:18 PM on 10/16/2010
not likely, the last election was much dirtier than this upcoming one.

http://covert2.wordpress.com
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solomon sez
11:37 AM on 10/16/2010
"Follow the Money." This is Journalism 101. Where are the "Independent" journalists following this story? It seems they have all been bought off or merged with some Corporate Monster that pulls their strings. It's a rigged game from top to bottom.
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geese1920
For a strong middle class... Obama 2012
11:49 AM on 10/16/2010
The very sad truth is that investigative journalists have been the first reporters laid off during the last few years as newspaper readership has declined and news organizations have tried to cut losses. Their reporting often takes longer, and sometimes bears little fruit. This is one of the real downsides to online journalism, where people, myself included, look to the internet for news, and have cut their daily subscriptions. Up until recently, we were still getting the daily paper, but have now cut back and only get the Sunday paper. I feel guilty, especially in light of what will inevitably happen when there are no investigative journalists to track corruption like we are seeing now.
12:35 PM on 10/16/2010
excellent point - by turning the broadcast medium into 'entertainment' - consolidating stations and using regional news rather than local, news is controlled much more now than ever before. Newspapers, always the base of investigating journalism, has been shredded, leaving the American public dependent upon what they hear and see in 2-3 minutes. No in depth information and a dismantling of PBS and NPR by the republicans...the last bastion of balanced news and information. So -- dumb down Americans, this what you wanted and this is what you go - no responsibility or accountability for those in charge...it is cheaper that way.
barrada nicto
Optimism is necessary.
10:37 AM on 10/17/2010
Is there a way for government to provide incentive for more and better journalism?
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jinjinpinti
Moi?
06:42 PM on 10/16/2010
And if one stays clean and independent and tries to get the message out in a book, it's a lost cause because few read books anymore.
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weslenforever
63 yr old educated grandma
07:26 PM on 10/16/2010
Few can afford to BUY books anymore and most who want to don't have access to libraries anymore, especially with the decline in public transportation.
11:21 AM on 10/16/2010
A big problem for Democrats has long been how to get anyone but MSNBC to pay attention to what the Republicans and their supporters have been doing. Somehow billionaires and large corporations giving millions anonymously to Republicans is not as newsworthy as what nonsense Palin, Angle, or McDonnell have been up to recently. Where have all the journalists gone?
09:58 PM on 10/16/2010
They have all gathered together in the toilet, which needs to be flushed.
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MCWAY
09:35 AM on 10/18/2010
The journalists laughed this mess to scorn, because they know that the Dems are hardly in any position to talk about accepting anonymous money for their campaigns.

Even the Obama-sack-riding Bob Schieffer couldn't believe this act of desperation, accurately inquiring, "Is that the best you can do?"
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Dave4ObamaSinceDay1
Obama will win again. Thx GOP
09:34 AM on 10/16/2010
I say fight fire with fire... The election is only 2 weeks away and any "digging" by the media will take months if not years....