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Federal Agencies Say They're Probing Foreclosure Problems

PETE YOST   10/19/10 09:44 PM ET   AP

Home Foreclosures

WASHINGTON — A federal law enforcement official says the FBI is in the initial stages of trying to determine whether the financial industry may have broken criminal laws in the mortgage foreclosure crisis.

The law enforcement official says the FBI is at the start of a lengthy sorting-out process in which agents will look into what caused the financial institutions to mishandle the flood of paperwork in the historic avalanche of foreclosures.

The official says the question is whether financial institutions were acting with criminal intent or were simply overwhelmed by events in the wake of the housing market's collapse. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is just getting under way.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

WASHINGTON (AP) – Big lenders are trying to move past the foreclosure-document mess, saying they're now confident their paperwork is accurate.

Yet they face so much organized resistance that they can't just snap up their briefcases, declare the crisis over and move on.

Consider the opposition:

_ Attorneys general in all 50 states are jointly investigating whether lenders violated state laws.

_ Lawyers for evicted homeowners are preparing lawsuits against major lenders.

_ State judges have signaled they will review the banks' foreclosure documents with skepticism.

_ Lawmakers on Capitol Hill plan to hold hearings.

The document crisis, in other words, appears far from over.

Statements on Monday by Bank of America Corp. and GMAC Mortgage that they are resuming foreclosures in the 23 states that require a judge's approval brought a wave of denunciations from public officials Tuesday. Attorneys general and other officials said bank officials could face civil – and potentially criminal – charges for flouting court procedures in handling foreclosure documents.

Hundreds of judges around the country have the authority to penalize bank officials who violate their procedural rules. They could also force thousands of foreclosure cases to go to full trials rather than issue a quick ruling.

Judges won't take well to banks that filed erroneous documents with their courts, said Indiana Attorney General Greg Zoeller.

"There could be some serious consequences," including criminal charges, Zoeller said.

Even if there aren't, lawsuits are likely to continue for years, said Guy Cecala, publisher of trade publication Inside Mortgage Finance.

"Some of these plaintiffs' attorneys clearly smell blood in the water," Cecala said.

Bank of America and GMAC say they have yet to find mistakes in the documents they've reviewed so far.

The banks' decisions came several weeks after they began halting some foreclosures. They froze those cases amid allegations that their employees signed but didn't read documents that may have contained errors.

State officials argue that the systems the banks used to process foreclosures were inherently flawed and likely remain so. They are vowing to push ahead in their investigations.

"While they are telling us that they have fixed those problems, we can't just take their word for it," said Patrick Madigan, an assistant attorney general in Iowa who is spearheading the 50-state investigation. "We intend to independently verify whether the problems have been fixed."

Some judges say the document problems are persisting.

Justice Arthur Schack of State Supreme Court in Brooklyn, who's gained national attention for throwing out flawed foreclosure cases, said he's still finding errors. In a stack of foreclosure cases sitting on his desk, he said he found flaws in most of them after a 10-minute once-over.

"It's nice of Bank of America to issue a press release," Schack said. "But they'd better file all their paperwork and makes sure it's done correctly, because they're asking me to take someone's house away."

Florida has been the state most affected by the document mess. Officials there say they're skeptical that banks have managed to resolve their paperwork problems so fast.

Chief Judge J. Thomas McGrady of Florida's 6th Judicial Circuit on Florida's Gulf coast, said judges in his circuit will scrutinize foreclosure documents, case by case.

Peter Ticktin, a Florida plaintiffs' attorney, said, "Pragmatically, it is impossible" for the bank to fix documents so quickly.

Bank of America says it will begin next week to refile documents for more than 100,000 foreclosure cases. CEO Brian Moynihan said on a conference call Tuesday that employees who have reviewed the bank's documents have found no inaccurate information that "would affect the plain facts of the foreclosure."

Attention will shift next month to Capitol Hill, where House and Senate lawmakers have scheduled hearings.

Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., said Tuesday that she was "disappointed by Bank of America's rush to resume foreclosures after such a short review." Waters has introduced legislation that would bar lenders from foreclosing without offering homeowners any assistance.

Consumer advocates and some lawmakers, meanwhile, argue that banks need to do far more than refile and re-sign piles of flawed documents. They say the banks must correct the way they handle foreclosures and requests for aid from distressed homeowners. Those efforts have been widely criticized as inadequate.

The White House has said federal agencies are investigating the allegations of flawed foreclosure documents. But the Obama administration has rebuffed calls for a national halt to foreclosures. It says doing so could hurt the housing market by making it harder for buyers of foreclosed homes to complete their transactions.

Housing and Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and other officials plan to meet on the issue Wednesday.

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AP Business Writers Janna Herron and Pallavi Gogoi contributed reporting from New York. Associated Press Writer Tamara Lush contributed reporting from St. Petersburg, Fla. Associated Press Writer Darlene Superville contributed reporting from Washington.

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12:31 PM on 11/16/2010
Why should it matter to the FBI if the mortgage holders were "overwhelmed"? Can I use that as an excuse for blatantly disregarding the law? "Oh, sorry judge, I was overwhelmed at the time I stole that car. Just check with the FBI - they'll tell you it's OK."

Find out if they can prove legal title to the property - that's at the core of this fraud. Documents must be filed when real property changes hands. That failure is what they're hiding.
07:59 AM on 10/20/2010
the only way we can stop foreclosure is that the debt is never written off the books. debt is final when paid of to last dime. that's how bank and owner takes responsibility for every action and trust me the price is not skyrocketing like it has done in the past if my way isn't the highway.. we probably wont see book writers on late night commercials then either. but this system we have now is just making bucks in the banks pockets because they don't pay interest on their money so they're practically getting the house free meanwhile folks are selling kids used toys on ebay t afford the water bill. when is government gonna be voted out so we can set the banks into paying % on the bailouts??
http://www.financemetrics.com/foreclosures-on-homes/
07:47 PM on 10/19/2010
Check me on this (just reread the last 'graph) ... if Obama wants to avoid making it harder for people trying to buy foreclosed homes. And we KNOW many of these homes were illegally foreclosed on. Isn't that basically saying he wants to help complete sales of homes that might not even be legally owned by the people selling them?

How is that good for anyone? That just sets the buyer up to lose all of their money ... and then have to sue the banks to get it back. It's like as soon as they get caught scamming one class of people to avoid taking fiscal responsibility for their own irresponsibility ... the government just helps them scam money someone else.

I don't think this is what we were all hoping would "trickle down".
07:41 PM on 10/19/2010
So, does this mean that from the judicial side they are going to start reading these things?

It certainly isn't possible for a judge to do an honest review of 1000+ foreclosures a day on a "rocket docket". The only way an improper foreclosure can happen in a state with judicial review is if there is judicial malfeasance/misfeasance.
07:31 PM on 10/19/2010
They should pass a law prohibiting foreclosure without presentation a physical signed deed proving the bank's right to foreclose.
02:03 PM on 10/21/2010
There are already laws on the books requiring proof of debt. The problem is that many notes were shredded when the notes were securitized and sold. This fraud is at the heart of the problem.
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03:41 PM on 10/19/2010
The feds should have been doing investigations 4 years ago, and the states should have been doing this all along, since the banks are chartered by the states. Shame on the states for allowing this to happen! And shame on the feds regarding Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The banks can't really be trusted, and need to be nationalized and the execs sent to jail for fraud. We have always had problems with the banks. going back to the Jackson administration in the 1830's. The only time when American banks operated fairly and honestly was during the time the Glass–Steagall Act was enforce. If home foreclosures are to resume by the banks at record rates, and everyone is kicked out of their homes, then perhaps everyone will finally demand the banks be nationalized. Once the banking system is straighten out, you will see a return of a stronger dollar, foreclosures to cease, control Wall Street, better control of capital assets, lending to help small business again, and employment pick up steam. Controlling the banks is key to everything.
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bigkay
09:17 PM on 10/19/2010
Since the Feds have been sitting idle except for Freddie Mae &Freddie Mac that are complicit in the FRAUD, The State Attorney Generals need to bring criminal charges against this band of thieves. The Law Firms in Fl. the first to be charged.
03:36 PM on 10/19/2010
Take a peek at the subprime fraud while you're at it now starting to resurface as title companies see further implications of "clear title".. the repubs are going to have their hands full come January... :)
03:35 PM on 10/19/2010
People, DO NOT BUY any forclosed home.

Very very very bad investment. I bought at great price and still fixing house up. Then, I got legal notice to stop improvements while home is under investigation for illegal foreclosure. Now, home is in legal process of going back to original homeowner.

Also, original homeowner trying to sue me for cutting down trees. She says improvements made on house might cover the damages. What nightmare!
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Dave Harpe
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01:26 AM on 10/20/2010
Thanks for the warning, guy. I have thought about this a few times, because it is the only way I can afford to buy a home at all. Not worth the risk. Can title insurance cover your losses?
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mountainweb
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03:16 PM on 10/19/2010
Ok, lets cut to the REAL issue here with BOA, as long a a thief can steal money and not be punished for it, they (BOA) will continue to steal. Why is anyone surprised? As long as Obama continues to support the theft of money by BOA, they have a free "stay out of jail card".. And Obamas ratings are so low because?
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Dave Harpe
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01:28 AM on 10/20/2010
He acts like he is on their payroll. Democrats and Republicans are not that different, are they?
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02:03 PM on 10/19/2010
As banks continue to dump on the market the properties they have made a bundle on through derivatives and MERS, property values near foreclosed homes will continue to drop. Little media attention describes the process, organizing foreclosures to maximuze profits. The next step is not so easy, foreclosure of non-securitized mortgages. Watch the foot dragging and bailout requests on these. They want to sell them to Treasury at 100%. The transfer of US wealth to banks continues.
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Dave Harpe
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01:32 AM on 10/20/2010
The Mafia used to rob the banks. Now they own the banks and use them to rob all of us. They learned that crime doesn't pay, unless it's really BIG crime.
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AlsoSarah
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01:09 PM on 10/19/2010
The HAMP Debacle

. People like myself who wanted a lower interest rate or lower monthly payment entered into Obamas HAMP program. My montly payment was at 40% of my income and was a hardship. I was told I needed to be one month behind to qualify for modification. We never missed a payment, but while the clock was ticking the Banks were tacking on fees, charges and balances. When presented with an inflated total amount a year and a half later...none of the duped homeowners could make the payment
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Dave Harpe
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01:38 AM on 10/20/2010
At the risk of offending the spelling perfectionists, I will offer that HAMP is an acronym. It means Homeless After Mortgage Phraud.
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msjimmied
01:06 PM on 10/19/2010
The problem with MERS.

"If it is a mortgagee, Mr. Peterson added, it has the right to record mortgages in its own name, as it did. But since it does not own the actual loan, doing that could be seen as violating a long line of precedents that bar separating a mortgage from the underlying note in which the borrower promises to pay. He quotes from an 1879 Supreme Court decision holding that “the assignment of the note carries the mortgage with it, while an assignment of the latter alone is a nullity.”

If an assignment of the mortgage alone is a nullity, then the mortgage can no longer be enforced. The borrower would still owe the money, but no foreclosure would be possible and the borrower could sell the home without paying off the mortgage. The lender could sue the borrower, but collecting money from distressed former homeowners might be very difficult in many cases."

http://www.cnbc.com/id/39740025

Unless the government is prepared to upend the rule of law for the banks, they are in serious trouble.
02:22 PM on 10/21/2010
msjimmied, Thanks for the salient comment.
Recall that last week the House & Senate DID try to upend the rule of law. Obama vetoed it.

The law professors paper on MERS illegal framework, referenced above, is available for download here;
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1684729

A fascinating recent RICO lawsuit filed against the banks is downloadable here;
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2196166

The deeper you look at this situation, the smellier it gets.
Thank god for Huffington Post that allows readers to share info. Awesome!
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msjimmied
03:10 PM on 10/21/2010
Interestingly enough it's the financial bloggers who have really put the spotlight on this, the MSM seems to be reporting on aspects of it only after it can no longer be ignored. Right now with 50 AG's across the country and lawyers and investors like sharks in the water, it really looks like a looming catastrophe for the banks. The fun part is watching them pretend it ain't no big deal, manipulating their stocks and gold prices. Announcement by NY's AG that lawyers have to verify papers submitted by the banks and also that banks will have to pay legal fees if the homeowner wins, is welcome news.

Maybe it is advisable that Obama stays out of this, just uphold the law of the land, and let the pieces fall where they will. I don't think it matters which side of the political divide you're on, no one wants fraud anymore.
01:06 PM on 10/19/2010
Let them look, there is nothing of significance to find.

Let's get this foreclosure mess behind us..FULL speed ahead!
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CH0001
02:47 PM on 10/19/2010
Timothy? Is that you?
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truthfinderddw
02:51 PM on 10/19/2010
You must work for a Bank, that would be your only excuse for your lack of understanding and seriousiness of this Foreclosure Crisis. Breaking into a Home and changing the locks isn't of significance, neither is the issue of Banks telling troubled Homeowners that they must first be behind in their Mortgage prior to discussing the possiblity of a Modification.
12:17 PM on 10/19/2010
Isn't that wonderful? what took so long.
12:11 PM on 10/19/2010
Two years in, and Gibbs wants us to know they're looking into it. Amazing!