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Justices Scalia And Thomas's Attendance At Koch Event Sparks Judicial Ethics Debate

First Posted: 10/20/10 02:23 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:05 PM ET

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Reports that two Supreme Court Justices have attended seminars sponsored by the energy giant and conservative bankroller Koch Industries has sparked a mild debate over judicial ethics.

On Tuesday evening, the New York Times reported that an upcoming meeting in Palm Springs of "a secretive network of Republican donors" that was being organized by Koch Industries, "the longtime underwriter of libertarian causes." Buried in the third to last graph was a note that previous guests at such meetings included Supreme Court Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, two of the more conservative members of the bench.

It's not rare for a Justice to attend a seminar sponsored by a group with judicial or political interests. Members of the court, for instances, often speak at academic institutions or think tanks. Virtually all companies, meanwhile, are affected by the judicial branch. So long as Scalia and Thomas did not participate in overt partisan activities, there would be no apparent conflict of interest.

"There is nothing to prevent Supreme Court justices from hanging out with people who have political philosophies," said Steven Lubet, a professor of law at Northwestern University who teaches courses on Legal Ethics.

But the Koch event appears more political than, say, the Aspen Ideas festival. In its own invitation, it was described as a "twice a year" gathering "to review strategies for combating the multitude of public policies that threaten to destroy America as we know it." In addition, it's not entirely clear what the two Justices did at the Koch event. A copy of the invitation that served as the basis for the Times's report was posted by the liberal blog Think Progress. It provided no additional clues. A call to the Supreme Court and an email to a Koch Industries spokesperson meanwhile were not immediately returned.

Faced with a lack of concrete information, and cognizant of Koch's fairly intense history of political involvement, legal ethicists are urging for more disclosure.

"This is certainly worth more reporting," said Stephen Gillers, a professor of law at New York University. "It is intriguing because the Koch brothers are so politically active and identify with a point of view. I know I would be curious to know exactly what forums the Justices went to. Obviously they could not go to a strategy session about how to elect more Republicans. On the other hand if it was a forum on the meaning of the First Amendment and it didn't involve strategy or fundraising a Justice could appear... It's fascinating and it merits more reporting."

What complicates the report, as Gillers notes, is that the Supreme Court, very recently, handed down a major decision on campaign finance law that Koch Industries quickly utilized. Citizens United overturned existing law by ruling that corporations could spend unlimited amounts of money on federal elections. Koch has always been an active political and philanthropic giver. And its checks have been sent to Democrats as well as Republicans (though weighted more heavily to the latter). This cycle, however, the company has become one of the premier bankrollers of conservative causes, and earned the enmity of Democrats for doing so.

Suggestions that Justices Scalia and Thomas's support of Citizens United may have been affected by their time with Koch officials ignores the fact that nothing concrete is known about what meetings they attended and when. Even then, Lubet argues, it would be difficult to argue that there is "a troublesome nexus between the event and the decision." Scalia and Thomas have been opponents of restrictions on campaign finance likely well before they were guests at a Koch Industry seminar.

But their presence at the conference still raises questions of transparency and, for some, broader concerns about judicial independence.

"I think it is very important for judges to be part of the real world and to appear in public for educative purposes to help explain the arcane mysteries of the court to the general public," said William G. Ross, a judicial ethics professor at Samford University's Cumberland School of Law. "That is very healthy and I don't think that judges should isolate themselves in a marble palace... However I am very troubled by the tendency of judges to make broader comments on public issues and to appear in public or private gatherings in which there are political overtones."

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Changeizgood
07:34 PM on 11/20/2010
Lock all the illuminati's up. They set us up with a President that didn't speak "Anglish."
Voted for corporate interference in our elections, all while attending the Corporate Shareholder meetings.

If that's not an ethics problem, then what is.
08:03 PM on 11/17/2010
This is one more proof our system of checks and balances failed. It failed to prevent preemptive wars on false pretext and could not defend national interest against special interests, foreign, corporate, or otherwise. Wonder why America's industrial base is eroded, citizens are jobless, and its government is virtually bankrupt? Look at the gradual and collective failure of the intiutions to safeguard and advance national and people's interests, over decades. The pusuit of truth gave way to lies, propadanda, scare tactic, and even threats to use force. This apparent regression or "dissolution" of America's pillars of powers, is foreboding. This is no ordinary time for America. It is an existetial crisis wherein common and people interests are supplanted with corporate and special interests. The brand is eivscerated. America's recents ills, the $ trillion war on false pretext, the financial collapse,and others resulted from deliberate acts by The is endangered. Wake The It behoves all of us to connect the dots, to grasp the big picture, and size up the magnitude of our existential chalnege and or crisis. The fight must for integrity, constitution, defending America against the control of special interest foreign or otherwise.
04:03 PM on 11/14/2010
What does it take to impeach a politician in black robes? It seems to be a lot more than simply lying about sex with an intern!
04:44 PM on 11/10/2010
THE ANATOMY OF FACISM as it unfolds.
06:33 PM on 10/31/2010
Scalia and Thomas are intellectual heavyweights, there's no denying that. You only need to listen to the questions they ask in cases on the Oyez Project for proof of this.

But while they surely have the brains, not really sure if they have a heart. I mean really, treating corporations as persons and letting them, with their vast resevoirs of capital, hijack the democratic system? So this is the kind of fairness that you guys learned at Harvard and Yale?
01:56 AM on 10/28/2010
Scalia and Thomas are two of the biggest threats to our Republic. They, and their many allies, seem determined to replace our democracy with a defacto corporate dictatorship; they don't even make much of a pretense about it anymore. We need to realize that they are not our countrymen, they are our enemies; he need to resist them in whatever way we can.
"Better to die fighting, than to be a slave for the rest of your days." Bob Marley
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jemdad99
Husband, dad, coach, career guy
06:19 AM on 10/27/2010
Congress needs to investigate this apparent corruption on the Supreme Court. We already knew that Scalia and Thomas were the 2 worst judges in the history or the court. Now we get more insight into the reasons this is the case.
05:47 AM on 10/25/2010
Congress should consider investigating Justices Scalia and Thomas for this incident. It undoubtedly would be very important for everyone, including the American public, to get a clear picture of what exactly were these two justices doing at the event.
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terri autorino
04:03 AM on 10/25/2010
How blatantly they have supported Republicans with their actions. They obviously have no common sense or "ethical" sense. They cannot possibly "rule" in a fair and unbiased manner; yet they have unlimited "king-like" power over our country.
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Changeizgood
07:39 PM on 11/20/2010
Even Kings get crowned.

Got anvil?
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Madmiddle
Vermonter
09:41 AM on 10/24/2010
Activist judges at their best, campaigning for the the right wing of government. Must be they feel they owe the right side something. Time to impeach activist aholes from our judicial system...
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Changeizgood
07:40 PM on 11/20/2010
I can smell another SELECTION ELECTION for the REPIGs in 2012.
RTIII
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09:01 AM on 10/24/2010
Anyone who thinks that removing 90% of all laws would be in any way helpful is mentally ill. So, every member of this group is.... Yeah. Frightening.
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Brian Ross
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07:44 AM on 10/24/2010
See my comment on this here at HuffPo:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-ross/big-brothers-are-watching_b_770909.html
08:59 PM on 10/23/2010
After reading the back story to the Citizens United case and realizing just how "activist" these guys had to be to get that case into the Supreme Court by "reaching down" to bring it to the bench it just makes you wonder what the Koch boys have as agenda items for "their" court's next session.....And to think, there was a time when we thought they couldn't do anything as blatantly political or corrupt as Bush v Gore
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moonglowsun
Humanitarian
11:52 AM on 10/23/2010
Our courts have been compromised. It's time to clean house and replace these "pseudo" Constitutionalists, with REAL unbiased Justices who interpret and fairly over-see the issues before them before voting.
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A1Tours
11:57 PM on 10/22/2010
How much more "overtly partisan" do they have to be than to enact the law they did AFTER meeting with this group that allowed them to then throw billions of dollars into our elections?? Unlimited dollars from UNDISCLOSED sources! This is outrageous and there should be much more than MILD outrage over this! They should be impeached - if that is how one unseats a judge - not disbarred, but OFF the supreme court. They made no move to recuse themselves, instead enacting the most radical law ever seen in American politics - potentially giving access to foreign entities to election of our top officials, which we are now seeing the ramifications of today! I am sickened more by this than by Thomas' sexual harrassment of women in the workplace. He was guilty then and never should have been seated in the first place - even with it unproven, let alone with a complaining witness, yet he was. Can you even imagine the hue and cry that would go up today if the current administration tried to seat someone with that sort of baggage??
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beauboy
03:44 AM on 10/24/2010
It was the right wing republicans who felt that Clarence Thomas was the best person to confirm. He was the long standing answer to many Supreme Court decisions. they knew they could count on his unwavering support for a conservative agenda. He has not let them down. His votes are 100 percent in line with conservatist Justice Antonin Scalia. Perhaps, the greatest tragedy of his confirmation was the blocking of an African American Supreme Court Justice. The selection of Supreme Court Justices is reflective of a candidates racial numbers in society, and since there is a Black Justice on the bench, we will have to wait until he retires, and that is probably a very long time. Yes, there's a Black Jurist, but, he doesn't reprersent any of the hopes, and aspirations of African Americans. During his confirmation hearing, he played the race card, when he stated he was being subjected to a "high tech lynching." his ploy worked, because it was at that time when the questioning changed, and the conservatives, who always complained about any semblance of "race card," was curiously supportive of Clarence Thomas' ''high tech lynching" statements.