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White House Rhetoric On Bipartisanship Echoes Clinton's In 2008

First Posted: 10/20/10 12:17 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:05 PM ET

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Faced with the likelihood of major Republican gains in Congress, the Obama White House is beginning to sound a bit like the jaded Hillary Clinton campaign during its 2008 nadir.

At a briefing for a small group of reporters on Tuesday, White House senior adviser David Axelrod was asked whether President Obama's presence in the White House is actually energizing Republican voters determined to add checks and balances to the government. It was a rhetorical question, to be sure. And the response, which focused mainly on GOP obstructionism, was dotted with cynicism (emphasis ours).

"When you have the other party who says they are going to use every device that they can to roll back the clock and they have the ability to write budgets and so on and use all the authority they have to do that, it is a prescription for problems. Now it could be that on Election Day a lightening bolt will come down and the skies will then open and people will be imbued with a new sense of responsibility and public spiritedness. I hope that's true. But I think it is fair to say that these guys have made it very, very clear that they want to roll the clock back and we have made it very clear that we are fighting to stop them from doing this."

It was hard not to notice that Axelrod's response echoes a memorable, bitingly sarcastic line from a Clinton campaign swing through Rhode Island in March 2008. Pressed then about the notion that candidate Obama would usher in an era of bipartisan cooperation, Clinton offered one of the election's more infamous rejoinders.

"Now, I could stand up here and say, 'Let's just get everybody together. Let's get unified,'" she said. "The skies will open, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect."

"Maybe I've just lived a little long, but I have no illusions about how hard this is going to be," Clinton continued. "You are not going to wave a magic wand to make special interests disappear."


It would probably be unfair to say that Axelrod somehow vindicated Clinton's assessment about the difficulties of politics. During the campaign, neither Obama nor his aides ever said that bipartisanship would come with the flip of a switch.

But what Axelrod's comments do suggest is a political team that feels as frustrated and embittered by a prevailing media narrative as Clinton was in March 2008. Just as Clinton mocked the notion that her opponent could cure the nation's partisan divides, so too does the Obama White House scoff at the idea that the GOP will suddenly find an appetite for legislative compromise.

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Faced with the likelihood of major Republican gains in Congress, the Obama White House is beginning to sound a bit like the jaded Hillary Clinton campaign during its 2008 nadir. At a briefing for a ...
Faced with the likelihood of major Republican gains in Congress, the Obama White House is beginning to sound a bit like the jaded Hillary Clinton campaign during its 2008 nadir. At a briefing for a ...
 
 
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SamEllison
I feel so clean!
09:54 PM on 10/20/2010
Sam can we have this conversation again after election day?
05:36 PM on 10/20/2010
In other words, Hillary Clinton was - once again - correct.
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thepoliticalcat
Eradicate your microbioflora
06:05 PM on 10/20/2010
Oh, please. If the voters had wanted her as President, they would have supported her. She lost the primary because she was a very poor money manager, raising huge amounts of money from big-money donors that she then squandered, ending her campaign millions in debt while all the small businesses who extended her credit had to wait months, years, even for payment. She played tough and dirty politics, which she's good at. She also promised to be much more hawkish than our President. Just because she's an intelligent woman and highly qualified does not entitle her to the Presidency. Had we elected her, we'd be looking at a war with Iran.
01:01 PM on 10/21/2010
I see the truth hurts....enjoy it....
04:39 PM on 10/22/2010
Good lord, Obama supporters are delusional.

Yeah, because Obama's not hawkish. Oh, wait, he has more troops in Afghanistan than Bush did.

Yeah, Obama is great at managing money. Oh, wait, he has run up the debt to trillions.

I'll give him this: Obama, like Hillary, is highly intelligent. Unlike Hillary, he is not at all qualified. This is plainly obvious to all but the few remaining delusional Obamabots who are still drunk off the hopey changey and cannot face reality.

No matter. They cannot help the coming Obamacrat electoral disasters.
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IAM4CLINTON
04:46 PM on 10/20/2010
Hillary, in her wisdom, was absolutely correct in predicting the fury of the Repubilcans--she has fought them for more than a decade and has scars to show for those battles ! President Obama hopefully has learnt the lesson and begins to exhibit some steel and spine after the mid-term elections
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thepoliticalcat
Eradicate your microbioflora
06:10 PM on 10/20/2010
Longtime Hillary supporter and fan here, and I agree with you. The Republican machine went after Hillary like they've never gone after anyone else. The hostility they showed her lasted from her husband's first run for office till today. However, I think President Obama is just a different type of guy. He's very effective but low-key. He's achieved more, legislatively, than any other President before him. It hasn't all been what I want, and I wish he'd get rid of Eric Holder and a few other people. But I think he's more focused on getting stuff done and less on fighting. His style is more that of folks in the public interest field - try to get a consensus with everyone buying in to some extent and making changes as needed to accommodate all points of view. It's worked well enough to help him earn major policy and legislative victories. But it's very 21st century and it's not helping that our Senate is filled with doddering d0pes who believe in posturing for their constituents at home while gratefully accepting whatever money the Federal government throws their way.
03:48 PM on 10/20/2010
Perception is reality in politics. Telling ourselves that the Democrats have done everything right and that the Republicans are evildoers may by an enjoyable pastime, but it does not win elections. I think it is time that Democrats owned up to the disappointments of the first two years and reclaimed the dialogue. I just watched a program on Health Care on MSNBC -- a network that no one on here would assume is unfair to the President or the Democratic Party. The message of the discussion was that everyone's health care costs will go up on January 1, 2011 (despite what the President promised) and that the average cost increase will be 12% in one large increase. The expert also indicated that companies who will now be covering children up to age 26 will be charging up to $3,000 per child per year for that coverage. Again, I do not think anyone anticipated increases of that sort and I know the President and our party leadership did not include it in any of the briefing papers on health care reform. We need to understand that people do not think the Democrats have done what we promised and they do not see things getting better (today's NBC poll shows that 61% of Americans believe the country is on the wrong track). Certainly, we need to switch the message, but more importantly, we need to improve the results!
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thepoliticalcat
Eradicate your microbioflora
06:17 PM on 10/20/2010
The problem with our media is that their coverage is designed to be a series of sound bites with no policy analysis. Just because MSNBC is reporting this information should not lend it any MORE credence than if Pox News were to report it. The fact of the matter is that early is year, insurance companies were *already* stating in various business journals that they planned to raise rates by 50 percent or more. Employers were already stating that they planned to pass additional costs on to employees. The fact that they have NOT increased the rates by the degree that they intended is a major victory. They've been forced to hold down their costs. As for insuring one's adult children on one's own policy - did anybody expect it to be free? I certainly didn't, and neither did any of my friends with grown children. $3K/pa is a very small amount to pay for the peace of mind of knowing that your child's illness or injury won't force you to declare bankruptcy -- which is the position we were in before. People really ought not to expect the President or our legislators to tell us stuff that ought to be obvious if we used our common sense. $3K per child pa is much less than most adults pay (~$12-14K pa). As for the NBC poll, like most other polls, they probably don't include cellphones. Which means their sample is restricted to those who still have landlines.
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Lukester
03:33 PM on 10/20/2010
This article is really reaching...
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parlimentMike
Don't settle for less evil, demand good
03:14 PM on 10/20/2010
It hasn't been bi-partisanship since Dukakis lost - it's been mono-partisanship.
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bisbeeornotbisbee
04:59 PM on 10/20/2010
Maybe since HHH was "appointed" as nominee in 1968, because there was a floor fight over the delegates' credentials. That paved the way for Tricky Dick, and the rest is history.
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parlimentMike
Don't settle for less evil, demand good
05:33 PM on 10/20/2010
HHH was a progressive, McGovern Carter Mondale and Dukakis offered an alternative vision too. But instead of learning to fight Clinton learned how to join, and it's been up the corporations at the expense of the People for Democrats as they joined Republicans in the really big things like bank deregulation, paying to ship jobs out of America, and rewarding the swindlers.
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davidpkronmiller
03:03 PM on 10/20/2010
In attempting to have a bi-partisan administration the Obama white house has managed to reveal to the entire nation and world how little Republicans have to offer. He gave them a chance but they decided to go a destructive, immature route. It will haunt Republicans on election day.

Now if only the boomers would retire and let the next generations lead -that would help this whole change thing...
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davidpkronmiller
02:59 PM on 10/20/2010
The only people who have really let us down lately is the press. Including this site. Who have failed to report on the huge list of accomplishments this President has achieved.

I saw yesterday on CNN how he signed an executive order for minority education but that wasn't covered here. He signed a small business bill into law - not covered here at all. Not to mention Credit Card Reform, Health Care and more...

Are they cynical? Eh - who cares - they're trying to get work done while the press just tries to make money and people like the head of this place who are trying to profit off of the folks who are struggling right now rather than working on real solutions.
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Trackerinblue
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02:48 PM on 10/20/2010
I find that blaming President Obama for all the problems Democrats are having is pointless at best, and harmful for the Democratic Party at worst. Stepping back and looking at a larger picture, seen through the filter of History, I see the first democratically elected president who has African-American heritage and at the same time I see the backlash of racism attacking through all the back doors it can find.
Remember the Republican "Southern Strategy" ? When the Republicans ran Goldwater for president in 1964 it was just after the Civil Rights Act. The Republicans reasoned they could easily get along without the Black vote as long as they enlisted every single white vote available; they openly recruited white votes with "anti-Negro" sentiment. Fortunately, they failed miserably.
The latest crop of Republican candidates are just another reflection of racist fear and loathing for the very idea that people of color (including Latinos) might ever achieve actual equality. Some of the things they are saying now would have been more obscured 20 years ago, but now it seems it's just OK to be openly racist.
Well, it just makes it easier for all of us. We can avoid a debacle by just not voting for these wing-nuts and they will go down in flames just like Goldwater did.
We (our country) are just experiencing growing pains. We will survive and be better for it IF we all just DO THE RIGHT THING.
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thepoliticalcat
Eradicate your microbioflora
06:24 PM on 10/20/2010
When I heard that Haley Barbour plans to run in 2012 (the Repubs are trying to scotch this by offering him a plum ambassadorship to the UK and chairmanship of the RNC, but nobody's talking about that the way they talked about the White House offering Sestak a plum post if he dropped out of the race against Specter), I knew that "doing the right thing" means keeping the Repubs out of power until they reform into a truly representative political party that represents *American* interests. Haley Barbour is the fine Suthuhn gentleman who said that those of us who complained about the VA governor's proclamation of Confederate History Month "didn't amount to diddly."
02:43 PM on 10/20/2010
Last comment didn't post right, whateves. The jist: I love Hillary. She is a brilliant woman and a shrewd politician, just not the best at campaigning. If she wants to run for prez again in 2012 she has my full support. I'll even wipe for her so she doesn't have to go through the effort of reaching around and wasting any energy that could be used to campaign.
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thepoliticalcat
Eradicate your microbioflora
06:27 PM on 10/20/2010
I really love Hillary too, but I hope she doesn't run. For one thing, with Hillary comes Bill. And with Bill comes a lot of baggage. Most of us love him, but the Republicanuts are just too energized by Billary. Also, she's way to the right of most of the democratic base. Her employment by WalMart, her positions on war, I don't know. I think she's great exactly where she is. She knows how to deliver both a gracious handshake and a swift kick to the n@ds, which is good when negotiating with other nations. As President, she'd be too divisive.
01:03 PM on 10/21/2010
Your ignorance is stunning....Divisive eh? How did the unifier Obama turn out for you may I ask?
02:39 PM on 10/20/2010
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JohnLorenzo
Examine the reasons of your true intent.
01:57 PM on 10/20/2010
Well, I could of told the Obama team back before 2008 that Repubs would never want to discuss problems and solutions in a sane, or calm manner. In fact, more than have the country probably could have told them that.

Sociopaths and other disturbed individuals are not able to truly work with others.
02:42 PM on 10/20/2010
Well did you tell them or are you now trying to rewrite history?
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jeanwny
05:09 PM on 10/20/2010
It was obvious right off the bat, and if they regain control of the House and Senate, that's all she wrote. Think you have it tough now, just wait for that scenario. Flash back to 2000-2008 and fast forward. That will be rewriting history in a way you won't want to experience!
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JohnLorenzo
Examine the reasons of your true intent.
02:40 PM on 10/21/2010
Not sure what your slant is with your cryptic post. However, the Obama team heard plenty from me and millions of other citizens about the manipulative and devious Repub army. One must think they didn't not really listen.

When you look at the situation of partisan politics today, it is very much like a bad experience with someone you think, at first, is a basically good person. If they burn you and back-stab you once, how many more times will you allow them to do it to you again before you keep your eye on them and don't give them an inch?

Read what I said again . . . Sociopaths and other disturbed individuals are not able to truly work with others.
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Dave F
Former Republican. Liberal means FREE.
01:24 PM on 10/20/2010
It would have helped tremendously if Democrats:

A) Read the Political Brain by Drew Westen and
B) Practiced what that book preaches

Democrats' messaging SUCKS this year (as it does most years). They need to stop worrying about being "factual" and "logical" with "statistics" and start hitting the things that people actually use to determine who to vote for: Emotions (most specifically, fear and anxiety).

Republicans figured this out decades ago, and Democrats still try and tout everything that is logical and reasonable. STOP! Just go for the jugular with all out emotion-based messaging. Then you'll win again. It's what Obama and Clinton both did in their Presidential campaigns. They they stopped - well, Obama needs to get back on that type of message, as do all the other Democrats.

It would also help if they could agree on some to repeat together, in unison, like the Republicans do (which are often wrong, but get repeated so often, people believe them anyway - like, "Tax cuts increase revenue").
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JohnLorenzo
Examine the reasons of your true intent.
01:59 PM on 10/20/2010
Thanks Dave F! I could not agree with you more! F & F!
02:14 PM on 10/20/2010
Absolutely. Democrats refuse to accept the fact that Republicans have changed the government profoundly. They have turned our representative legislature into a parliamentary legislature.

Democrats can no longer afford to be a "Big Tent" party. It is time, well past time, to impose Party discipline. You're either with us or against us. Blue Dogs have to choose: join the Republican Party or vote like Democrats.

Elections need to have consequences. The electorate has to believe there is a real, practical difference between the two parties. As long as Conservative Democrats side with Republicans on certain issues, the message gets muddled.
01:15 PM on 10/20/2010
Bipartisanship only works if the other side wants to work with you. But when they don't, when their only goal is to see you defeated, then why bother trying to work with them on anything?
02:45 PM on 10/20/2010
Why say that now? In 2008 Obama lovers argued that he was the better choice because he could work with Republicans. Are you saying that his supporters either a) did not believe that or b) actually thought that Republicans would work with him because he said so? I would hate to see the answer but either way, Obama supporters only have themselves to blame for drinking the kool-aid.
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thepoliticalcat
Eradicate your microbioflora
06:32 PM on 10/20/2010
Who said that? I never heard it, nor did I say it, nor did anyone of my acquaintance. Those of us who voted for him saw a candidate who ran a tight, fiscally-disciplined campaign and raised a billion dollars, mostly in small donations, and managed to attract hundreds of thousands of volunteers and campaign workers. You people show up here yowling about "drinking the kool-aid," but you're the ones who vote on strict party lines and toe the party line and bleat whatever your icons tell you without checking a single fact. We voted for him because we knew he would not start a war with Iran and he showed that he understood fiscal discipline.
01:08 PM on 10/20/2010
"so too does the Obama White House scoff at the idea that the GOP will suddenly find an appetite for legislative compromise."

Well that sure isn't what he was saying a week ago. Remember, both Axelrod and Obama were uttering nonsense about the Repugs feeling more need to be bipartisan if they won seats.
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babyspittle
thinks that fox is bad for brain cells
02:05 PM on 10/20/2010
we can only hope that republicans will want to start working for the country for a change - at least as long as f00ls continue to vote for them.