iPhone app iPad app Android phone app Android tablet app More

Israel a Model (of Sorts) on Gays in the Military

Gay Israeli Soldier

First Posted: 10/22/10 04:57 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:05 PM ET

By Michelle Chabin
Religion News Service

JERUSALEM (RNS) Israel, like the United States, is a largely secular society with deep religious roots. And Israel, like the United States, is home to vocal religious conservatives who frown on homosexuality.

But Israel, unlike the United States, has allowed gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military for 17 years. In fact, they are required to.

So, if Israel has found a way to allow gays in the military, can it provide lessons to the U.S. as it struggles with whether -- and how -- to dismantle Don't Ask/Don't Tell?

Perhaps. But like everything in Israel, it's a bit more complicated. And the comparison between the U.S. and Israel is inexact.

By most accounts, Israel's integration of gays in the military has succeeded, and the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has reportedly begun to share its experiences with the U.S. military.

While the Obama Administration continues to wrangle in court over a federal judge's ruling that declared Don't Ask/Don't Tell unconstitutional, the Pentagon has directed military recruiters to start accepting applications from all qualified potential recruits, regardless of sexual orientation.

If the courts or Congress overturn Don't Ask/Don't Tell, the U.S. will become the 26th nation to fully integrate gay and straight members of the military, according to the Palm Center, a think tank at the University of California Santa Barbara.

Aaron Belkin, the center's director, said full integration has been successful even in countries engaged in frequent combat, citing Israel, American's closet ally in the Middle East, as an example.

"The lesson the U.S. military can learn from the Israeli military is there are no negative consequences" to inclusion, "even when the military is ae battle-tested force like the IDF," Belkin said.

Drafting openly gay soldiers into the IDF and other military forces "has been highly successful and has no negative impact on morale, retention, readiness or overall combat effectiveness," according to a Palm Center report, "Gays in Foreign Militaries 2010."

Israel has reportedly offered advice to a commission on repealing Don't Ask/Don't Tell. Pentagon spokeswoman Cynthia Smith declined to go into detail, but hinted that at least some talks had already occurred.

"I don't have any information on that," Smith said. "It's part of a comprehensive working group (report) that will be presented to the Secretary of Defense Dec. 1."

An IDF spokesman would only say that "the IDF routinely cooperates with the armies of other countries on a number of different levels."

Israel's transition to full integration took time and planning. As a nation with mandatory military service for both men and women, and a strong religious ethos that dictates almost every facet of everyday life, the Israeli government treaded carefully.

The IDF began placing openly gay soldiers in units as early as 1983. It took another 10 years for full acceptance, following a 1992 parliamentary law on equality. Internal monitoring of gays continued until 1998.

Only then did homosexuality in the IDF "became totally a non-issue," said Frances Raday, a professor of international law at the College of Management Academic Studies in the city of Rishon Lezion.

Even with the heavy influence Israel's ultra-conservative religious political parties wield in parliament, the country has "an extremely liberal stand on homosexuality," said Raday.

Rabbi David Rosen, the Jerusalem-based international director of interreligious affairs for the American Jewish Committee, noted that the same ultra-Orthodox leaders who regularly decry gay pride parades never tried to stop openly gay soldiers from IDF service.

One reason, Rosen theorized, is that they did not want to open a national debate over who can serve in the IDF, because ultra-Orthodox seminary students are exempt from military service -- a policy that a majority of Israelis want to cancel.

Religious Zionists -- Modern Orthodox Jews who serve in the IDF -- have been more preoccupied with preventing interaction between male and female soldiers than the status of gays and lesbians, Rosen said.

"This was a centrally dominant issue in the whole national discourse of religion, state, security and sexuality the early decades of statehood," Rosen said, "and even today it hasn't been totally resolved."

One outcome of the debate was the establishment of National Service, a voluntary alternative to military duty open to religious young women and some men, including Arab citizens. Before Israel changed its law, many gays and lesbians performed National Service.

Yonatan Gher, director of the Jerusalem Open House, a prominent Israeli gay rights group, said the IDF "seeks out" training from gay groups in order to better serve and integrate the soldiers.

"We speak with them regularly, especially with commanders and educators," Gher said, adding that the IDF has been "sharing its information" with the Pentagon.

Amit Lev, who disclosed his homosexuality during a stint in the IDF, believes that within the proper environment, being gay in the military "can be a non-issue."

"Unlike Israel, in the U.S. no one has to serve in the army," Lev said. "Those who volunteer, whether they're gay or straight, are already motivated and will be good soldiers."

Whitney Jones contributed to this report from Washington.

FOLLOW HUFFPOST RELIGION

By Michelle Chabin Religion News Service JERUSALEM (RNS) Israel, like the United States, is a largely secular society with deep religious roots. And Israel, like the United States, is home to vocal r...
By Michelle Chabin Religion News Service JERUSALEM (RNS) Israel, like the United States, is a largely secular society with deep religious roots. And Israel, like the United States, is home to vocal r...
Filed by Josh Fleet  | 
 
 
  • Comments
  • 93
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Comments are closed for this entry
View All
Favorites
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2  Next ›  Last »  (2 total)
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
07:51 PM on 10/29/2010
Way to go for Israel on this issue.
It is funny seeing those who say Israel is against Liberal Values, and find themselves supporting Palestinians who execute gays. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3211772.stm
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
JonB2057
Think, it ain't illegal yet!
12:33 PM on 10/28/2010
If you allow homosexuals to serve openly in your military and use that same military to oppress other, you have proven nothing.
02:10 AM on 10/28/2010
Now these are the people I need to talk to in Isreal they can get me some truth.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
SM74
02:25 PM on 10/25/2010
Good. Now let's support those who want to destroy Israel, kill off its Jewish population and replace it with the kind of state where gays (an immodestly dressed women) are stoned to death.
photo
Cori527
Gay democrat agnostic vegetarian!
01:24 PM on 10/26/2010
What?
01:12 AM on 10/25/2010
The number of gays in the military is extremely low and the vast majority of the ones that are are lesbians.. Combat just isn't an interest of gay males in the US.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
exxman
Visualize Whirled Peas.
12:58 PM on 10/26/2010
Is there a link to research you could share or are you stereotyping gay men and lesbians?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Angel1999
Microbiologist & Historian
10:53 PM on 10/26/2010
Way to throw out pretend facts. There are no studies on this because all of the gays in the military have to pretend like they aren't. So where did you get your information from? But even if the "vast majority" of the gays in the military are lesbians, how does that affect the argument in even the tiniest way?
jerryatthebeach
Till Death Do You Barrier Island...
07:08 PM on 10/24/2010
Maybe Gay Americans should move to Israel...
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Angel1999
Microbiologist & Historian
10:54 PM on 10/26/2010
Naah, I'm not into living in apartheid states.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
10:35 PM on 10/27/2010
Good, then you should definitely go visit Israel and you'll see that while it isn't perfect, neither is it an apartheid state.
photo
LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
11:06 AM on 10/24/2010
One thing that strikes me about this article is the repeated use of LGB soldiers serve well, and get along fine, 'Even in combat,' ...you were expecting, perhaps, the guys from 'Queer Eye For The Straight Guy?'

(I didn't add the T there, just cause, knowing lots of trans folks, I think there probably *are* some good reasons why armed units are no place to be starting hormone therapy, but T people should still be treated fairly: lots of trans people join the military on promises it'll 'make you a man' as advertised. )

You know those stories about how LGBTs are bullied and harassed from the day we start seeming different? I knew more about 'being under fire' before I was out of high school than *any* of these spoiled 'normal' kids. It's funny the stereotypes still at play: when the Pentagon isn't afraid of gay men raping helpless U.S. Marines in the showers, they're saying, 'Of course gays are too weak for fighting, which will then apply to lesbians who are sterotypically supposed to be 'unfeminine battleaxes' or whatever.

'Even in combat.' Gods. I could tell you stories. When some of those very idiot homophobic jock boys get in over their heads after causing a dustup with the locals, I assure you that's the last time they're going to be speculating on or trying to 'correct' your sexuality.

I'd have done OK. In command.

I still kind of scratch my head on that one.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
deweydecimal
@DeweyMai on Twitter
10:17 PM on 10/28/2010
Love your comments hon, keep it up! Sparta, perhaps the most legendary of the Greek city-states in terms of their military prowess had lifelong partnerships between members of their army.

And MMA is really hot amongst us gays atm.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
bruin1954
Progressive Christian and a believer in Humanity
10:22 AM on 10/24/2010
Good morning waytruthlife
Although I would agree that the 'norm' within species w/ 2 sexes is heterosexual behavior, it is a documented fact that within a species there will be a small percentage that 'deviate' from that 'norm'. So the fact that there is some 'deviance' from that 'norm' within the human species is certainly 'normal'.
With regard to what God said... you are certainly welcome to your beliefs (I'm a Christian myself), but I don't see what it has to do with policy decisions that must balance national security and CIVIL rights.
09:13 PM on 10/23/2010
All Israelis are welcome to IDF, gay or not, as long as they dont object killing innocent civilians, or using kids as human shields
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
10:37 PM on 10/27/2010
You for sure don't have a clue as to what you are talking about. You'd be amazed at the very large number of those who refuse to serve in the West Bank and refuse to follow illegal orders. Simplistic comments such as yours say more about you than they do about the IDF.
08:44 PM on 10/28/2010
you dont understand maybe because you didnt fully read: are those refuseniks welcome in the IDF?
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
06:01 PM on 10/23/2010
That's right - the only way to get out of service in the IDF is to be a religious lunatic.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
iLdoRight
Encouraging The Rightest Rightness
04:34 PM on 10/23/2010
Anyone who says they are a Jew or a Christian who has the mental ability to read and understand or learn to read and has not read all the "Holy Scriptures" at least once all the way through is probably taking the word of someone other than the "Authority" that had the Words written, about what they are.(I believe Our Creator had those words written for good reasons). There were those who loved the Golden Young Cow and those who loved Our Creator. Was one group right and the other wrong (?) or were they both right (?)
photo
LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
04:33 PM on 10/24/2010
Well, let's hope our military does better than Moses when it comes to the orienteering manuals. :)
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Demarcus Jackson
Southern Psychology Professor
03:06 PM on 10/23/2010
As a social scientist, I value cross-cultural comparisons and I DO believe that such comparisons should be made and should be reflected upon, especially with regard to complex social issues such as ending the DADT policy in the United States military, which as a Gay man and as an American, I strongly support. However, it should be noted, as this article points out, that cross-cultural comparisons should never be taken too far. The United States is unlike any other nation on Earth---like all other nations, the U.S. is unique with its own birth, growth, and continual development. We must solve the DADT issue from a uniquely American perspective.
photo
LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
10:35 AM on 10/24/2010
Like... With full and unalienable equality? :)
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Zanubiyah
04:45 AM on 10/23/2010
Israel already has a common enemy. No need to make a new one.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
07:45 AM on 10/23/2010
if palestinians were christians or hindus , would you care about them ?
10:07 AM on 10/23/2010
There are Palestinian Christians.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Zanubiyah
12:18 PM on 10/23/2010
camus...

How did you know what the 'common enemy' of Israel was? Wow...it is amazing what is so deeply rooted in the minds of men.

Also....another thing deeply rooted in the minds of apologisits is that all Palistinians are Muslim. Not true. There are Christian Palistinians as well. Thier churches are being destroyed, neighbourhoods being bulldozed, children being used as 'human shields', bombed indiscriminatly, shot at, humiliated, and Allah knows what else the occupiers do to them..

Just like the Muslims.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
cliffhammond
Onward through the fog!
03:34 AM on 10/23/2010
I will join only if Sarah Palin teaches me how to use a moose rifle to take innocent life and cleans the holy lands of Arab non-believers who are threatening to contaminate the prayer rituals of our public schools.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
rstewart3
03:29 AM on 10/23/2010
One of the main things stressed in this article is that, "Israel's transition to full integration took time and planning." As much as I do support the right for all to serve in our military, this is one thing that I have been stressing over and over. You can't just throw open the doors and expect things to work out without a hiccup or two. Let the gates open up, and understand that it is going to take a lot of time, patience, and understanding from all sides in this matter. Those that will be the first ones in as openly homosexual will have important jobs of laying down the foundations for those that follow, as well as those who are heterosexual. Only through working together will things equalize and move forward.

Congratulations for keeping up the fight and with this looking like a win. But keep your patience, and all things will come together like it is suppose to.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
cliffhammond
Onward through the fog!
03:44 AM on 10/23/2010
I understand completely. I get the hickups quite often myself. But just think what a joy it will be to our boys overseas to have us in the foxhole with them when they can't get away to sexually assault nearby villagers and plunder their homes. I mean, sex really is the whole issue in a nutshell, isn't it? Oh, I know there will be times when sports seems more important than sex. But if you give us a chance I'm sure we can prove we're just as good at taking trophies like fingers and toes as the rest of you. But I have to admit, sometimes I lose my valor and find it's helpful to have a good chapel and a confessional nearby especially after those nights when we've bagged them all up and shocked them into telling secrets that would shame the Pope. But I don't think I will have any problems drowning them. So, I guess I'm good to go. Can I bring lipstick?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
colamonkey
My micro-bio contains this sentence.
04:35 PM on 10/23/2010
Yes, because teh gays are so difficult to deal with. *sarcasm*